Quotes of the day

posted at 10:43 pm on June 29, 2011 by Allahpundit

“[K]ey early state players are tiring of trying to read the tea leaves about whether she’s in or out. They’ve reached the point where they just want to know the answer.

“‘Trying to figure out Sarah Palin reminds me of the ancient practice of extispicy, divination by examining entrails for meaning,’ said former New Hampshire GOP chairman Fergus Cullen.

“‘I’ve become convinced that there is no grand strategy behind Palin’s activity,’ Cullen added. ‘There is no rhyme. There is no reason. The only common theme to her schedule of activities, statements and appearances is her seemingly unending ability to attract media coverage.’”

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“Sarah Palin will run for the White House in 2012 and conduct an ‘unorthodox, grassroots campaign the likes of which you’ve never seen’, according to the man who has spent the past eight months organising for her in Iowa.

“Speaking to me after the premiere of the film ‘The Undefeated’ in Pella, Iowa, Peter Singleton, a California lawyer who has been assiduously courting Republicans across the state where the first contest of the 2012 election will be held, said it was ‘unthinkable’ she would remain on the sidelines.

“‘She’s the right person at this time,’ he said. ‘If you look back at Churchill’s time, in 1938 Churchill was unelectable, in 1940 he was indispensable.’”

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“Singleton and his team of Palin organizers have personally met with most of the county GOP chairs across the state. That is something that none of the current presidential campaigns can say that they have done. Instead of selling Iowa activists on Palin, they instead make sure that people understand that there is a possibility that Palin will run.

“The Palin organizers also soak up any Iowa political knowledge they can get. A couple of weeks ago, I was speaking to a conservative breakfast club in western Iowa. After conversing with those in attendance for an hour or so, I noticed that one of the women was taking extensive notes. I was worried that I might have missed the fact that a reporter was present at the meeting. It wasn’t a reporter. It was a Palin organizer who I had yet to meet.

“Even though Sarah Palin doesn’t play by the same rules that seem to govern the rest of the field of Republican candidates, she has developed an extensive ground game in Iowa, even if it’s not being officially coordinated by her or her advisors. In many ways, I think that Palin is probably more organized in Iowa in terms of grassroots communication than most of the current field.”

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“Unlike Sarah Palin, who has brandished the feminist moniker and spoken of an ‘emerging conservative feminist identity,’ Bachmann told me in an interview Tuesday that she wouldn’t call herself a feminist—instead, she simply described herself as ‘pro-woman and pro-man.’ When I pressed her on the matter, the Minnesota congresswoman said she sees herself as an ‘empowered American.’…

“Unlike Palin, who frequently decries the ‘lamestream media,’ Bachmann doesn’t attack the attackers. ‘The media is what the media is,’ she says. ‘It’s part of the territory. A person has to accept that there are difficult questions and unfair questions and it is a part of this process and it is what it is.’”

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“Judging from Bachmann’s performance over the last few months, she had the luxury of observing [Palin] from the sidelines, and learning from her errors.

“Bachmann has message discipline. She’ll throw out red meat to her base but subtly and smartly so as not to be labeled a nut.

“She is deeply entrenched in the issues of the day from foreign policy to the budget and boasts an impressive resume that she has no problem touting, unlike Palin, who relied on McCain advisors to assist in her branding…

Lessons have been learned. She won’t give the press the fight that they want. She won’t let her gaffes (and all politicians make them) define her. And she will not resign from office to pursue her passions.”

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Via Breitbart TV.

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“Coulter also addressed rumors that Rep. Bachmann and Palin didn’t get along– ‘they like one another!’ These she attributed to sexism: ‘liberals are just so shocked that there are so many conservative women politicians,’ she argued, and assume ‘there are two girls in the race; they must hate each other.’”

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Via Caffeinated Thoughts.

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I’m not a big Ryan supporter wither. I think Gov.Palin made a mistake tying herself to his plan. She should come up with her own plan but I think she’ll do that during the campaign.

promachus on June 30, 2011 at 3:44 AM

well she did say it was a good start. leaving her wiggle room in the future. Look at what happened to Newt when he tried to distance himself from it.

If the gop were smart they would be pushing back on the mediscare campaign. but they aren’t so they aren’t

unseen on June 30, 2011 at 3:47 AM

unseen on June 30, 2011 at 3:11 AM

Needing a “leader” is far, far different than a “mother-figure”. NO conservative looks for a mother or father figure in any politician.

Further, right, nobody else save Palin has shown any leadership… yep, that Perry is such a follower! Forget that he’s a thrice elected Governor of one of America’s largest states. Bachmann, what a beta! Santorum, nope he’s no leader. West? Pffft. What’s a Lt.Col know about leadership, anyway? Heck, even Cain led his company.

Nope. No leaders save one.

//////

We should instead be thanking God that that isn’t the case.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on June 30, 2011 at 3:50 AM

unseen on June 30, 2011 at 3:45 AM

She didn’t get any leadership roles because the GOP iss afraid to take any chances. She is still a junior congresswoman when all’s said and done, and she has had no chance at the kind of experience Palin has. That is a negative for her, but it is not her fault.
I still get visions of Gephardt dancing in my brain whenever I think of Bachmann’s candidacy. I wonder if she is trying to run for veep, since her chances of nomination are probably slim. She’d probably be pretty good as a VP, though, if her past statements don’t come back to haunt her.

Random Numbers (Brian Epps) on June 30, 2011 at 3:56 AM

Aslans Girl on June 30, 2011 at 3:50 AM

Perry can claim leaderhsip if he gets in. I don’t think he will. but i hope he does because he will take Mitt and bachmann’s voters and save us of any possiblity of those two getting nominated.

bachmann and Santourm have never shown leadership . west’s leadership is in the milatry as Ike taught us that may or may not translate into politcal leadership. I think he has potential and I think he could be another i support full hearted but he has to prove it too me. or in other words he has to lead.

Pence showed leadership skills be understanding he wasn’t ready for POTUS. So if he wins the gov of In and does well he will go on my list.

unseen on June 30, 2011 at 4:02 AM

She is still a junior congresswoman when all’s said and done, and she has had no chance at the kind of experience Palin has. That is a negative for her, but it is not her fault.

Random Numbers (Brian Epps) on June 30, 2011 at 3:56 AM

It is her fault. Remember the GOP wouldn’t let Gov.Palin be governor either. She fought the establishment.She dethroned the sitting governor in the primary. What Michelle could have done is fight tooth and nail for a leadership position and shown some leadership in the Congress. Mike Pence had a leadership position in COngress and he decided against a run. What makes Michelle think she’s capable when Pence isn’t?

promachus on June 30, 2011 at 4:02 AM

still get visions of Gephardt dancing in my brain whenever I think of Bachmann’s candidacy. I wonder if she is trying to run for veep, since her chances of nomination are probably slim. She’d probably be pretty good as a VP, though, if her past statements don’t come back to haunt her.

Random Numbers (Brian Epps) on June 30, 2011 at 3:56 AM

maybe VP I was thinking a cabinet position since there is a good chance the dem control Minn state gov will redistrict her out of office.
you Gephardt example is good. I keep thinking of ducan hunter and Pence. I think Pence made the right decision to get rid of his negatives whereas ducan hunter didn’t. It hink bachmann will do better than duncan hunter simply because she is getting a lot of press because of of a lot of reasons mostly Palin IMO. but also because the field is kind of weak.

We will see. Not sure if they want another woman as VP too mcuh like last time for comfort. but maybeif the nominee is Mitt he will need a conservative to rally the base so who knows.

unseen on June 30, 2011 at 4:07 AM

We will see. Not sure if they want another woman as VP too mcuh like last time for comfort. but maybeif the nominee is Mitt he will need a conservative to rally the base so who knows.

unseen on June 30, 2011 at 4:07 AM

That’s what they are going for… Romney/Bachmann ticket. She’s playing for veep and harming serious candidates in the process.

promachus on June 30, 2011 at 4:11 AM

That’s what they are going for… Romney/Bachmann ticket. She’s playing for veep and harming serious candidates in the process.

promachus on June 30, 2011 at 4:11 AM

I hope that isn’t what they are planning people will laugh them off the stage.

unseen on June 30, 2011 at 4:16 AM

what the hell is this about?

The administration stopped defending court challenges to the law when Attorney General Eric Holder advised he believes it is unconstitutional.

“Well, Mr. President take off that Supreme Court robe,” she told the crowd. “You are not the Supreme Court. You don’t get to decide if a law is constitutional or not.”

Later Wednesday at a presidential press conference in the East Room of the White House, the second question, asked by NBC’s Chuck Todd, was a ‘hodge-podge question,’ according to Obama, that sought answers on an array of legal issues.

“Do you believe the War Powers Act is constitutional? Do you believe that the debt limit is constitutional, the idea that Congress can do this? And do you believe that marriage is a civil right?,” Todd asked.

That’s when the former constitutional law professor distanced himself from his legal background in answering the question.

“I’m not a Supreme Court justice, so I’m not going to put my constitutional law professor hat on here,” said President Obama in his initial response to the question.

Throughout Obama’s nearly nine-minute response, he wore the hat of a politician instead of professor to avoid answering the question directly.

Obama said, “I don’t have to get to the constitution question,” “I don’t have to get to the question” and “I’m just saying I don’t have to reach it. That’s a good legal answer.”

But Bachmann seems to disagree with the president on how heavy of a constitutional role he plays

Read more: http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/06/29/bachmann-suggests-obama-too-close-constitutional-issues-obama-begs-differ#ixzz1QkHaW8Xm

i think the writer was stoned when they wrote this not sure what the topic is. why is bachmann telling Obama to take off his robe? Maybe its just late and my mind shut down i don’t get it.

unseen on June 30, 2011 at 4:22 AM

I just don’t see Bachmann as Veep material this cycle, I think she is gearing up for future cycles. Who would she help as Veep? Not Romney or Pawlenty for regional reasons, and of the others only Huntsman might benefit from her resume, and he isn’t going anywhere.

The race will be decided either by where the Palin supporters go when she declines to run, or in reaction to their coalition. It probably boils down to Romney versus Palin people, even if neither of them win.

Adjoran on June 30, 2011 at 4:26 AM

Perry can claim leaderhsip if he gets in. I don’t think he will…

Same could be said of Palin… And he doesn’t have to “get in” in order to “claim” it. He is a leader already by virtue of being a thrice-elected Gov.

bachmann and Santourm have never shown leadership …

Santorum? Are you speaking of a different Santorum? I’m speaking of the one who led the Senate’s efforts to reform welfare. He was also Chairman of the Senate Republican Conference. He had “leadership” positions in the Senate.

west’s leadership is in the milatry as Ike taught us that may or may not translate into politcal leadership…

unseen on June 30, 2011 at 4:02 AM

:facepalm: Yeah, Ike was a terrible POTUS.///

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on June 30, 2011 at 4:29 AM

Same could be said of Palin… And he doesn’t have to “get in” in order to “claim” it. He is a leader already by virtue of being a thrice-elected Gov.

hmm no. leadership is much more than holding office and sitting in a chair.

Santorum? Are you speaking of a different Santorum? I’m speaking of the one who led the Senate’s efforts to reform welfare. He was also Chairman of the Senate Republican Conference. He had “leadership” positions in the Senate.

Yeah that one the one that was not a leader. he showed more leadership than bachmann but still no execuitve leadership experience.

facepalm: Yeah, Ike was a terrible POTUS.///

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on June 30, 2011 at 4:29 AM

Many thought Ike wasn’t that great of a POTUS. infact by 1960 the country did not elect his VP because they wanted a change.

unseen on June 30, 2011 at 4:43 AM

What happens if Palin declines to run?

OmahaConservative on June 30, 2011 at 5:10 AM

I think that Palin is probably more organized in Iowa in terms of grassroots communication than most of the current field.

Who knew…

the_nile on June 30, 2011 at 5:11 AM

Palin is such a threat to the pencil neck marxist In the oval office. Cant wait for honor and integrity to whoop ass on the liar with a smile.

Milhous Obama has a movie of his own also…see it here!!! Then pass it on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVh75ylAUXY&feature=youtube_gdata_player

goldwaterpunk on June 30, 2011 at 5:45 AM

Personally, I’m waiting for Palin to say “bless your heart” to Obama during a debate. He will bleed from his eyes.

SKYFOX on June 30, 2011 at 6:24 AM

Ted Torgerson on June 29, 2011 at 11:22 PM

^this

NY Conservative on June 30, 2011 at 6:49 AM

If MB isn’t going to fight back against the media lies (like she let the accusation from Politifact stick when Stephanopolus quizzed her) then consider me OFF the Bachmann Bandwagon.

I’m back to “undecided”. The number ONE quality in the next President is they MUST be a FEARLESS Conservative!!

That means not accepting the premise that you’re a “Flake” or a “Liar”.

MB doesn’t seem like she is going to do that.

PappyD61 on June 30, 2011 at 6:54 AM

MB doesn’t seem like she is going to do that.

PappyD61 on June 30, 2011 at 6:54 AM

She lost my support when she voted to continue funding Obama’s illegal Libya war.

Roy Rogers on June 30, 2011 at 6:56 AM

If Palin is going to run…….maybe she’s smart to wait as long as possible to let the Whoredog Media destroy any Conservative out there FOR HER. again if that’s the case then AGAIN she plays the media for fools.

And she must realize the second she announced on the radio show…..SHE becomes the focus of ALL the firepower of the Media and White House.

Maybe that’s why she waits?

PappyD61 on June 30, 2011 at 7:00 AM

I believe I understand Palin pretty well and I know where her core is. Not so with Bachmann. Maybe I just need more time to get to know her, but I had a handle on Palin early on. Granted, they are not the same person, but I have to listen to my instincts about people. It’s when I don’t listen to that voice I get in trouble.

Extrafishy on June 30, 2011 at 7:03 AM

“Unlike Palin, who frequently decries the ‘lamestream media,’ Bachmann doesn’t attack the attackers. ‘

That’s because her kids haven’t been called whore’s, and the wish for them to be raped…every nod of the head is analyzed, hundreds rush to Alaska to comb through every fact of Sarah’s life…Michelle is not that important.

right2bright on June 30, 2011 at 7:11 AM

‘The media is what the media is,’ she says. ‘It’s part of the territory. A person has to accept that there are difficult questions and unfair questions and it is a part of this process and it is what it is.’”

Bachmann fails the how to deal with the media issue – they are not just difficult and unfair, they are a well organized deadly danger to America – working with the White house and others in an open agenda to take it down – playing with deadly vipers as if they were harmless garter snakes is not presidential thinking. Sarah knows America’s enemy and she is seeking to neuter its effect. Major difference between the two woman candidates.

Don L on June 30, 2011 at 7:11 AM

Ot: morning Joe thinks dear leader is the most awesomeness…He kicked butt yesterday

cmsinaz on June 30, 2011 at 7:13 AM

Discount the Pollutico story. They are part of the JourNoList lying cabal and sworn enemies of Palin, the GOP(RINOs excepted), Conservatives and Libertarians.

The Iowa Republican and Peter Singleton quotes are most telling. I would bet that with some work Iowa will be overwhelmingly for Palin (Chris Matthews predicted that several months ago). The real story is how she and her supporters are doing in NH, SC, Florida followed by Super Tuesday. If she get to the point in a those states she is already at in Iowa then she has a nomination.

Despite the polling, much of it created with a desperate anti-Palin spin, the Facebook SocialCode study gives some indication of Palin’s real support which many will “unexpectedly” find wider and deeper than previously thought.

Viator on June 30, 2011 at 7:13 AM

Agree pappy, we need a fighter to go up against dear leader and the lsm

cmsinaz on June 30, 2011 at 7:15 AM

If Palin is going to run…….maybe she’s smart to wait as long as possible to let the Whoredog Media destroy any Conservative out there FOR HER. again if that’s the case then AGAIN she plays the media for fools.

And she must realize the second she announced on the radio show…..SHE becomes the focus of ALL the firepower of the Media and White House.

Maybe that’s why she waits?

PappyD61 on June 30, 2011 at 7:00 AM

Maybe, sounds like a smart tactic…

the_nile on June 30, 2011 at 7:20 AM

Mr Singleton also spoke about narratives that were incorrect. “The narratives are: she’s not running; she’s about to endorse another candidate; it’s too late for her to get in; she’s going to run as a celebrity candidate; she’s got no support here; support is attenuated; she’s yesterday’s news,” he said. “All that is comically inaccurate.”

the_nile on June 30, 2011 at 7:25 AM

I’m waiting for palin. If she doesn’t run then I don’t have any idea who I will vote for or even that I will vote at all… Please run sarah!

tinkerthinker on June 30, 2011 at 7:27 AM

tinkerthinker on June 30, 2011 at 7:27 AM

don’t think like that…dear leader will win for sure….and i don’t think we can handle another 4 years of that dude…

cmsinaz on June 30, 2011 at 7:42 AM

One of the reasons that Michelle Bachmann will never be ready for Prime Time is her comically inaccurate understanding of the MSM.

Palin gets that the MSM is a propaganda ministry for the Regime. She gets that in her bones. So she is trying to undermine their credibility as transmitters of facts to undermine their authority, and thus their usefulness to Democrats.

Bachmann is clueless about this.

victor82 on June 30, 2011 at 7:45 AM

OT: durbin gaffe

cmsinaz on June 30, 2011 at 7:45 AM

Halperin on morning joe

marcus or buckeye, did you see this? i missed it, dang it

cmsinaz on June 30, 2011 at 7:46 AM

Despite the polling, much of it created with a desperate anti-Palin spin, the Facebook SocialCode study gives some indication of Palin’s real support which many will “unexpectedly” find wider and deeper than previously thought.

Viator on June 30, 2011 at 7:13 AM

A key telling point will be, if she jumps into the race, how many people sign up to be a part of her army. My enlistment papers are ready to go. I don’t expect to be lonely.

Extrafishy on June 30, 2011 at 7:49 AM

Halperin on morning joe

marcus or buckeye, did you see this? i missed it, dang it

cmsinaz on June 30, 2011 at 7:46 AM

WOW, did not see this! What is amazing is his completely non-heartfelt “apology”. If you didn’t “mean it”, why did you say it a split second before and say ahead that you hoped they would edit it out? I know why – because if it was anybody else (say, Glenn Beck) you don’t like who said it, you and Mika and Joe would be calling for their firing and making a stink about insulting our Dear Leader.

Marcus on June 30, 2011 at 7:58 AM

Ot: morning Joe thinks dear leader is the most awesomeness…He kicked butt yesterday

cmsinaz on June 30, 2011 at 7:13 AM

Yeah, right. Those eeevil Corporate Jets did it.

kingsjester on June 30, 2011 at 7:59 AM

Marcus on June 30, 2011 at 7:58 AM

you’re darn tootin’

he usually is the voice of reason on that show…

cmsinaz on June 30, 2011 at 8:01 AM

Yeah, right. Those eeevil Corporate Jets did it.

kingsjester on June 30, 2011 at 7:59 AM

You’re right, KJ, Jets suck.

SKYFOX on June 30, 2011 at 8:02 AM

and he just apologized again…

*shaking the head*

cmsinaz on June 30, 2011 at 8:04 AM

kingsjester on June 30, 2011 at 7:59 AM

nice piece KJ…the dude makes my blood boil for the crapola he says and gets away with….

all hail dear leader

cmsinaz on June 30, 2011 at 8:05 AM

Watching now? They’re scared, and just opened the show with it – Joe saying his show is so much above that. Oh, shut up.

Marcus on June 30, 2011 at 8:05 AM

Has Joe had any Politico people on? You know they’re reacting to Politico having splashed that Morning Joe called Obama a dick.

Marcus on June 30, 2011 at 8:06 AM

cmsinaz on June 30, 2011 at 8:05 AM

Thankyaverymuch!

kingsjester on June 30, 2011 at 8:06 AM

Marcus on June 30, 2011 at 8:05 AM

yep…why did they bring it up for cripe sakes…looks pathetic

cmsinaz on June 30, 2011 at 8:07 AM

Marcus on June 30, 2011 at 8:06 AM

not yet…

cmsinaz on June 30, 2011 at 8:07 AM

LOL, now Joe’s being all pompous and serious. And Mika looks like a moron, per usual.
Back to Fox and Friends – where they are covering the Nigerian dude who has flown coast-to-coast and back again with a FAKE ID and a FAKE boarding pass, while the TSA is inspecting 95 year old leukemia victims in their wheelchairs and adult diapers.

Furious!

Marcus on June 30, 2011 at 8:11 AM

‘The media is what the media is,’ she says. ‘It’s part of the territory. A person has to accept that there are difficult questions and unfair questions and it is a part of this process and it is what it is.’”

It’s this attitude that allowed the savage attack on Palin, as well as other conservatives.
The media is not “what the media is”, it is what we allow. And strong leaders, with morals, do not allow someone, anyone, to come along and viciously attack anyone they wish to destroy.
If she can’t see that the media stepped way out of bounds, than she is not the leader I want leading this country, she has no realistic moral boundaries, except “don’t rock the media boat”…
They never learn, the public despises the media, just a bit less than congress.

right2bright on June 30, 2011 at 8:13 AM

victor82 on June 30, 2011 at 7:45 AM

Well said, though I’m not so sure Bachmann’s clueless as she is following advice to play nice (play the role of a punching bag)…don’t know how that’s been working as she she’s been spending a good portion of her interviews talking about her gaffes in an effort to please they who have barrels upon barrels of ink.

RepubChica on June 30, 2011 at 8:13 AM

Furious!

Marcus on June 30, 2011 at 8:11 AM

cripe

cmsinaz on June 30, 2011 at 8:13 AM

Bachmann is clueless about this.

victor82 on June 30, 2011 at 7:45 AM

Evident by hiring Rollins, who still thinks he can “woo” the media…the fools.

right2bright on June 30, 2011 at 8:15 AM

and he just apologized again…

*shaking the head*

cmsinaz on June 30, 2011 at 8:04 AM

Wouldn’t it be nice if Drudge started the day with “Halperin Accuses Obama of Being a D***”?

TxAnn56 on June 30, 2011 at 8:15 AM

pseudoforce on June 29, 2011 at 11:22 PM

Pawlenty, the new Lunesta on June 29, 2011 at 10:53 PM

Oh I don’t think Palin is unstoppable. I think her election is less likely than Romney by a substantial margin. But that is precisely the point. That is why it is so important that she wins.

The race is ours to lose. We lose by nominating someone like Romney or Huntsman, not because they would not win, but because when they win we gain nothing.

People look at polls, like Gallup’s DTP, and fail to see the relevant information. President Obama is the weakest incumbent president since Jimmy Carter.

Obama’s performance ratings drop significantly when the focus turns to his management of the economy, jobs and deficits. By a margin of 61 percent to 32 percent, Americans disapprove of the job Obama is doing to tackle the budget deficit. Fifty-seven percent of respondents disapproved of his efforts to create jobs and overall 57 percent disapproved of his handling of the economy.

So you have to understand we have an historic opportunity to elect an actual conservative, the best we have had in 30 years and maybe the best we will have for another 30 years (or perhaps ever based on demographic changes). We are also at a crucial juncture for the fiscal health of our government, with the crisis in spending on entitlement programs poised to accelerate as the baby boom retires. We are on a precipice, and an unprincipled compromiser like Romney costs us our most valuable commodity, which is time. If he wins we will not be able to get a conservative in the White House for at least 8 years, which will be too late. That’s why Palin must run and must win.

Ted Torgerson on June 29, 2011 at 11:22 PM

Great point. I might add that a huge problem is the fraud
in the Medicaid program. Additionally, what is really
strangling our country and its states is the unfunded
pension liabilities.

Amjean on June 30, 2011 at 8:18 AM

Wouldn’t it be nice if Drudge started the day with “Halperin Accuses Obama of Being a D***”?

TxAnn56 on June 30, 2011 at 8:15 AM

It’s there, dear! Ha-ha, good for Drudge for waking up early.

Marcus on June 30, 2011 at 8:20 AM

TxAnn56 on June 30, 2011 at 8:15 AM

yepper

:)

cmsinaz on June 30, 2011 at 8:20 AM

Marcus on June 30, 2011 at 8:20 AM

just saw it too

cmsinaz on June 30, 2011 at 8:21 AM

Halperin on morning joe

marcus or buckeye, did you see this? i missed it, dang it

cmsinaz on June 30, 2011 at 7:46 A

I saw it. Mika was furious, I would bet that the producer they tried to blame it on will be fired. Of course, we’ll never hear about that.

Heh.

Naturally Curly on June 30, 2011 at 8:28 AM

The media is not “what the media is”, it is what we allow. And strong leaders, with morals, do not allow someone, anyone, to come along and viciously attack anyone they wish to destroy.
If she can’t see that the media stepped way out of bounds, than she is not the leader I want leading this country, she has no realistic moral boundaries, except “don’t rock the media boat”…

right2bright on June 30, 2011 at 8:13 AM

You really get it. And I’m not saying taking a hardline against the media is a winning political strategy, but it’s a start in the right direction, win or lose. Making them irrelevent and damaging their influence and reputation is where it’s at right now. You can either go down beaming at your enemies with a pretty smile as they destroy you or you can go down wailing on them.

RepubChica on June 30, 2011 at 8:28 AM

Naturally Curly on June 30, 2011 at 8:28 AM

yepper

cmsinaz on June 30, 2011 at 8:28 AM

It’s there, dear! Ha-ha, good for Drudge for waking up early.

Marcus on June 30, 2011 at 8:20 AM

What a great way to start the day! Any bets that he’ll be banned from Morning Joke now? Dissent isn’t tolerated over there. They’ll be tripping over their slobbered covered tongues trying to apologize.

TxAnn56 on June 30, 2011 at 8:39 AM

Wouldn’t it be nice if Drudge started the day with “Halperin Accuses Obama of Being a D***”?

TxAnn56 on June 30, 2011 at 8:15 AM

Maybe, it’s another nickname for Barack? Barry, Dick, Rocky?

Fallon on June 30, 2011 at 8:39 AM

cmsinaz on June 30, 2011 at 8:28 AM

That was hillarious!..:)

Dire Straits on June 30, 2011 at 8:39 AM

I’m not a big Ryan supporter wither. I think Gov.Palin made a mistake tying herself to his plan. She should come up with her own plan but I think she’ll do that during the campaign.

promachus on June 30, 2011 at 3:44 AM

Interesting that you think that, because I think that her endorsement of the Ryan budget is exactly what makes her worth considering as a candidate. If it wasn’t for that, I’d be completely dismissive of her candidacy. But if she’s willing to stake her chances on a bold plan to save this country, then I think she means business, and I’m willing to take a chance on her.

Caiwyn on June 30, 2011 at 8:40 AM

I thought Matt Lewis did a very good job on Moaning Joe defending Palin..He walked into the Lion’s Den and did pretty well..IMHO..:)

Dire Straits on June 30, 2011 at 8:41 AM

That was hillarious!..:)

Dire Straits on June 30, 2011 at 8:39 AM

It’s times like these when I wish I was on 99 weeks of unemployment so I could stay home and hear what Rush has to say. But alas, the sweatshop calls.

TxAnn56 on June 30, 2011 at 8:42 AM

You can either go down beaming at your enemies with a pretty smile as they destroy you or you can go down wailing on them.

RepubChica on June 30, 2011 at 8:28 AM

Or, like Sarah Palin, you can shred your enemies with a smile on your face and no blood under your fingernails.

SKYFOX on June 30, 2011 at 8:42 AM

TxAnn56 on June 30, 2011 at 8:42 AM

You are right..El Rushbo will have a field day with this..Plus Mark Levin should be a classic!..:)

Dire Straits on June 30, 2011 at 8:46 AM

Oh, my – MIKA comparing SARAH PALIN to PARIS HILTON.

An all-time Joe low.

Mika is the dick.

Marcus on June 30, 2011 at 8:46 AM

Morning DS :)

cmsinaz on June 30, 2011 at 8:47 AM

Cap’n Ed’s on the quote, pretty funny stuff.

Fallon on June 30, 2011 at 8:51 AM

Indeed Marcus

cmsinaz on June 30, 2011 at 8:52 AM

Morning DS :)

cmsinaz on June 30, 2011 at 8:47 AM

Good morning..:)

Dire Straits on June 30, 2011 at 8:53 AM

I’m waiting for palin. If she doesn’t run then I don’t have any idea who I will vote for or even that I will vote at all… Please run sarah!

tinkerthinker on June 30, 2011 at 7:27 AM

Waaah! If the Belle of Wasilla doesn’t run I’m gonna stomp my feet and not vote ! Waaah!
All the other likelies are RINOS who are no better than Obama! Waaah!
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annoyinglittletwerp on June 30, 2011 at 9:45 AM

well he had no answer for that. and he couldn;t admit we are correct becaus ethan bachmann becomes unelectable. The comparisions are spot on and the only difference between the two ar eones of ideology and while I agree with bachmann’s stance on most issues i am not going to elect a non executive experienced person to POTUS.

But for the most part madcon will debate you striaght up he gits defensive and grouchy but he isn’t anywhere like hollowpoint and Vyce and Cdseven who just troll to start fights and then run away

unseen on June 30, 2011 at 3:27 AM

Actually, I did have an answer to that, and gave it in short in another thread on this topic last night. I get weary of having to repeat myself from thread to thread.

First, though, two things. I appreciate the respect. Rather a standout attitude on this site. Something which I’ll link to Bachmann when I reiterate my defense of her record. Second, I was never a big Ryan supporter. I like him because he’s from my turf, but I’ve given him crap for years for voting for TARP and the auto bailouts. Again…Bachmann related.

First, the link:

Fact: Bachmann hired Rollins, who attacked Palin.

Fact: Ed Rollins is not running for president. Michelle Bachmann is. Michelle Bachmann has not attacked Palin, and both have declared their respect for each other.

Fact: Bachmann has no legislative accomplishments

Fact: Bachmann has a better conservative record on votes than most House Republicans. Her proposals, such as the Light Bulb Freedom of Choice Act, usually didn’t survive because they were too conservative for a number of RINOs.

Fact: Bachman is a gaffe machine. John Wayne, Concord, Adams. Those were just within the last week.

Fact: Palin’s less-than-clear comment about Paul Revere garnered more negative media attention than all three of those combined. Same as not telling Katie Couric what she reads, “refudiate”, etc. Another fact: what do gaffes have to do with their positions, ideology, character, and potential to be a conservative president?

Fact: Bachmann has no executive experience.

Fact: Palin resigned before she finished her first term of “executive experience”.

Just for starters…

idesign on June 29, 2011 at 9:16 PM

Here’s the thing: none of the crap you mentioned makes me support Bachmann less, and none of the crap I mentioned makes me support Palin less. The problem is those of you who are fixated on the name and the person rather than the positions and ideas. Sort of like…oh…Obama supporters.

MadisonConservative on June 29, 2011 at 9:36 PM

To elaborate, Bachmann took office at the beginning 2007, at the same time that Pelosi and the Dems had just wrested control from one of the worst Republican houses in history. The House was subsequently dominated by liberals and RINOs, who went on to vote for things like TARP and the Stimulus and ObamaCare…all of which passed. Some Republicans votes against some of the above. Bachmann voted against ALL of the above, simultaneously being one of the first non-nutjob members of Congress to demonstrate her support for the TEA Party, vocally opposing more obscene government spending. She also put forth legislation that, surprise surprise, went nowhere in such a left-leaning chamber. She pushed for more oil drilling at home, before Palin had even been selected as Veep candidate to McCain. She’s been as vocally critical of global warming as Inhofe. She also produced legislation to take out the financial reform law headed by our old banking pals, Barney Frank and Chris Dodd. Has it gone anywhere? Not really, since even after we’ve retaken the House, they still waffle over items like Libya even when we’ve got Obama’s nuts over a campfire.

In short, she’s been a stalwart leader for conservatives since she took office. I am not arguing that executive experience has no value. I am arguing that legislative experience has value, as well. I am also arguing that pushing hard conservative values when the majority is ignoring you or voting the other way or laughing at you takes a hell of a lot of balls. Sure, Palin did a good job during her half a term as governor in Alaska…a red state. She fought a corrupt political machine that transcended partisan lines. Meanwhile, Michelle Bachmann fought another kind of political machine that was busily seeing how high it could make the debt billboards go. I think the dismissal of Bachmann’s career and work is both hypocritical given that Palin didn’t even finish her own term(arguably justifiably), and a detriment to those who consistently stand up for conservative values when the chips are down, or when it’s not politically advantageous.

MadisonConservative on June 30, 2011 at 9:47 AM

Since none of Bachmann’s supporters answered it let me ask again:

Could one of bachmann’s supporters please explain to me what “impressive” resume Bachmann has? She has the same resume as Obama accept in place of Senator she has congresswoman. Please explain to me how Bachmann has a better resume than Obama had.

any takers?

unseen on June 30, 2011 at 12:22 AM

I asked a similar question in another thread recently and couldn’t get any answers. Experience doesn’t seem to count for much anymore. The preferred qualifications keep changing depending on who’s in the spotlight at the moment. It’s like bizarro world. I know Bachmann is a congresswoman, and that’s great, but that’s it. No bills, no leadership, no committees. Generally, I like what she says, but hell, I like what a lot of people say, but I also want to see how they’ve applied that.

Dongemaharu on June 30, 2011 at 9:50 AM

alan Keyes? seriously? never saw what people saw in him seemed like a user to me.

unseen on June 30, 2011 at 3:24 AM

Alan Keyes was tapped to run against Zero in Illinois because he was black.
Period.

annoyinglittletwerp on June 30, 2011 at 9:52 AM

Mornin’ MadCon!

annoyinglittletwerp on June 30, 2011 at 9:53 AM

Alan Keyes was tapped to run against Zero in Illinois because he was black.
Period.

annoyinglittletwerp on June 30, 2011 at 9:52 AM

I liked Alan Keyes when I was younger. When he was up for a run against Bob Dole in 96, I really liked him. At the time, I was a bit more Christian conservative, but I still think he’s a good guy. Sadly, after his performance in 2008, I think he’s wandered a bit too much to the Ron Paul kook fringe area, but the guy has brio. He’s a great speaker and debater, and he never runs out of energy.

MadisonConservative on June 30, 2011 at 9:56 AM

Waaah! If the Belle of Wasilla doesn’t run I’m gonna stomp my feet and not vote ! Waaah!
All the other likelies are RINOS who are no better than Obama! Waaah!
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annoyinglittletwerp on June 30, 2011 at 9:45 AM

The comment you replied to says nothing of the sort.

darwin on June 30, 2011 at 9:56 AM

Fact: Palin resigned before she finished her first term of “executive experience”.

I guess being mayor doesn’t count as “executive experience.” So what does that mean? Is the state governor’s office the only political office where a politician might gain “executive experience”?

Aitch748 on June 30, 2011 at 9:57 AM

MadisonConservative on June 30, 2011 at 9:47 AM

Excellent post MadCon!..:)

Dire Straits on June 30, 2011 at 10:00 AM

Oh, my – MIKA comparing SARAH PALIN to PARIS HILTON.

Marcus on June 30, 2011 at 8:46 AM

Mika is the cliche cute well-off chick in high school that sneered at everyone she disliked and gleefully spread vicious rumors about them for her own amusement. I guess you could say she…erm…

…casually underestimates nonliberal thinking.

If you get my drift.

MadisonConservative on June 30, 2011 at 10:00 AM

The comment you replied to says nothing of the sort.

darwin on June 30, 2011 at 9:56 AM

Said commentor said that they might not vote if Palin isn’t the nominee.
Sorry-but that’s exactly what it said.

annoyinglittletwerp on June 30, 2011 at 10:01 AM

MadisonConservative on June 30, 2011 at 9:56 AM

I voted for Keyes over GWB in the 200 Illinois primary. After his stunt in 2004-I was AT his announcement-he’s poison to me.

annoyinglittletwerp on June 30, 2011 at 10:03 AM

I guess being mayor doesn’t count as “executive experience.” So what does that mean? Is the state governor’s office the only political office where a politician might gain “executive experience”?

Aitch748 on June 30, 2011 at 9:57 AM

According to those I’ve been debating with, yes. One must win a statewide election in addition to holding an executive position. As for being mayor of Wasilla, I’m friends with a former mayor of my hometown, which is bigger than Wasilla. If such a post is supposed to be more preparatory than three terms in the House, then qualification standards for the presidency are mighty arbitrary.

MadisonConservative on June 30, 2011 at 10:04 AM

I voted for Keyes over GWB in the 200 Illinois primary. After his stunt in 2004-I was AT his announcement-he’s poison to me.

annoyinglittletwerp on June 30, 2011 at 10:03 AM

What stunt are you referring to?

MadisonConservative on June 30, 2011 at 10:04 AM

Since none of Bachmann’s supporters answered it let me ask again:

Could one of bachmann’s supporters please explain to me what “impressive” resume Bachmann has? She has the same resume as Obama accept in place of Senator she has congresswoman. Please explain to me how Bachmann has a better resume than Obama had.

any takers?

unseen on June 30, 2011 at 12:22 AM

I asked a similar question in another thread recently and couldn’t get any answers. Experience doesn’t seem to count for much anymore. The preferred qualifications keep changing depending on who’s in the spotlight at the moment. It’s like bizarro world. I know Bachmann is a congresswoman, and that’s great, but that’s it. No bills, no leadership, no committees. Generally, I like what she says, but hell, I like what a lot of people say, but I also want to see how they’ve applied that.

Dongemaharu on June 30, 2011 at 9:50 AM

This.

I’ve come to believe that those who object to Palin don’t do so because of any real problems that Palin actually has. Instead, I think some people have just decided they can’t stand Palin or want her gone from the political stage and keep playing up small problems as showstoppers.

Aitch748 on June 30, 2011 at 10:04 AM

I guess being mayor doesn’t count as “executive experience.” So what does that mean? Is the state governor’s office the only political office where a politician might gain “executive experience”?

Aitch748 on June 30, 2011 at 9:57 AM

According to those I’ve been debating with, yes. One must win a statewide election in addition to holding an executive position. As for being mayor of Wasilla, I’m friends with a former mayor of my hometown, which is bigger than Wasilla. If such a post is supposed to be more preparatory than three terms in the House, then qualification standards for the presidency are mighty arbitrary.

MadisonConservative on June 30, 2011 at 10:04 AM

So how much executive experience does Bachmann have? Or would you suggest that the only candidates who are actually qualified to seek the Presidency are Romney (who’s declared) and Perry (who hasn’t)?

Aitch748 on June 30, 2011 at 10:07 AM

Said commentor said that they might not vote if Palin isn’t the nominee.
Sorry-but that’s exactly what it said.

annoyinglittletwerp on June 30, 2011 at 10:01 AM

Yeah … might is just a tad different than saying they’re gonna stomp their feet and whine.

darwin on June 30, 2011 at 10:09 AM

So how much executive experience does Bachmann have? Or would you suggest that the only candidates who are actually qualified to seek the Presidency are Romney (who’s declared) and Perry (who hasn’t)?

Aitch748 on June 30, 2011 at 10:07 AM

You know, I’d really love to indulge this tiring canard where people who pay no attention to what I’ve said about Romney in the past, or Perry, and somehow make my defense of Bachmann into a defense of people I don’t support whatsoever, but I’m really f**king sick of that s**t.

Endlessly asking about executive experience when you back someone who didn’t finish her first term as an executive, and ignoring legislative experience like it doesn’t matter(a point I disputed above, but you either haven’t read or don’t want to acknowledge) is not a debate tactic. It’s a weak stalling tactic.

MadisonConservative on June 30, 2011 at 10:11 AM

Tantaros claims MB has an impressive resume? Like Bachmann or not, she has virtually no resume. 4 and a half years in Congress without ever authoring a bill that passed, and zero executive experience constitutes an “impressive resume”? An impressive resume for what?

DB9 on June 30, 2011 at 10:11 AM

MadisonConservative on June 30, 2011 at 9:56 AM

His entire senate campaign. He spent the first half-hour of his announcement talking about how he was going to miss Maryland…and he was supposedly running in Illinois. There was also the tiff he has w/his lesbian daughter. etc.

annoyinglittletwerp on June 30, 2011 at 10:13 AM

So how much executive experience does Bachmann have? Or would you suggest that the only candidates who are actually qualified to seek the Presidency are Romney (who’s declared) and Perry (who hasn’t)?

Aitch748 on June 30, 2011 at 10:07 AM

You know, I’d really love to indulge this tiring canard where people who pay no attention to what I’ve said about Romney in the past, or Perry, and somehow make my defense of Bachmann into a defense of people I don’t support whatsoever, but I’m really f**king sick of that s**t.

Endlessly asking about executive experience when you back someone who didn’t finish her first term as an executive, and ignoring legislative experience like it doesn’t matter(a point I disputed above, but you either haven’t read or don’t want to acknowledge) is not a debate tactic. It’s a weak stalling tactic.

MadisonConservative on June 30, 2011 at 10:11 AM

Tactic? Stalling tactic? I asked what I thought was a perfectly reasonable question. If Palin’s executive experience is worthy of discussion, why should a question about the executive experience of other candidates be a mere “tactic”? If it’s only a “tactic,” then why exactly did you answer an objection about Bachmann’s executive experience with a comment about Palin’s? What would you call that?

Sheesh.

Aitch748 on June 30, 2011 at 10:17 AM

His entire senate campaign. He spent the first half-hour of his announcement talking about how he was going to miss Maryland…and he was supposedly running in Illinois. There was also the tiff he has w/his lesbian daughter. etc.

annoyinglittletwerp on June 30, 2011 at 10:13 AM

Well, I don’t know that it’s necessarily a bad thing to show recognition to your old home. But what’s this about a tiff with his lesbian daughter? If he’s spurning family over homosexuality, that drops him a good deal in my eyes.

MadisonConservative on June 30, 2011 at 10:17 AM

Tactic? Stalling tactic? I asked what I thought was a perfectly reasonable question. If Palin’s executive experience is worthy of discussion, why should a question about the executive experience of other candidates be a mere “tactic”? If it’s only a “tactic,” then why exactly did you answer an objection about Bachmann’s executive experience with a comment about Palin’s? What would you call that?

Sheesh.

Aitch748 on June 30, 2011 at 10:17 AM

Here’s the thing, I started addressing the notion of “executive experience” and “qualified” months ago. You know who will have the most executive experience as President of the United States in the 2012 election? Barack Obama. Additionally, as you pointed out, Romney has executive experience…and the result was RomneyCare. Herman Cain has executive experience, having been the CEO of Godfather’s Pizza and vice president of Pillsbury. And how is he at articulating his positions on the issues? Sadly, dismal.

These are all people who have spent more time in major executive positions than Sarah Palin. Clearly, executive experience is an arbitrarily valuable commodity.

MadisonConservative on June 30, 2011 at 10:25 AM

Tactic? Stalling tactic? I asked what I thought was a perfectly reasonable question. If Palin’s executive experience is worthy of discussion, why should a question about the executive experience of other candidates be a mere “tactic”? If it’s only a “tactic,” then why exactly did you answer an objection about Bachmann’s executive experience with a comment about Palin’s? What would you call that?

Sheesh.

Aitch748 on June 30, 2011 at 10:17 AM

The BS coming from Madison is Obama grade strength.

the_nile on June 30, 2011 at 10:25 AM

MadCon: There were rumblings during the campaign but here’s what happened afterward
From wiki:
After the 2004 campaign, Marcel-Keyes became a consultant for her father’s Illinois office. However, on January 20, 2005, she participated in a march protesting the second inauguration of President George W. Bush. In 2005 Keyes relieved her from her duties and requested that she move out of an apartment funded by Keyes’ political organizations in Chicago. Marcel-Keyes wrote in her online journal that her parents had given her two weeks to move out of the apartment, and had effectively left her “jobless and … homeless.”[9] In public she said she could understand this because “It doesn’t make much sense for him to be [financially] supporting someone who is working against what he believes in.” When asked if she was homeless, she said “Technically speaking, I don’t have anywhere to go. I have lots of friends and I could probably go crash with them. I’m going back to Chicago and I’m not really sure what I’m going to do when I get there. I have no place to live there, but there have been people offering to help me find housing, offering to let me stay with them for a little while until I figure things out. I don’t have an official place to live but I really doubt that I will be spending much time wandering the sidewalks.”

annoyinglittletwerp on June 30, 2011 at 10:26 AM

annoyinglittletwerp on June 30, 2011 at 10:26 AM

Looked up a little more, as well. Ugh. When religious views break up families…it becomes one of the reasons I don’t subscribe.

MadisonConservative on June 30, 2011 at 10:38 AM

You know, I’d really love to indulge this tiring canard where people who pay no attention to what I’ve said about Romney in the past, or Perry, and somehow make my defense of Bachmann into a defense of people I don’t support whatsoever, but I’m really f**king sick of that s**t.

MadisonConservative on June 30, 2011 at 10:11 AM

Oh, quit being such an arrogant ass. You sit around with this too-cool-for-the-world air building up strawmen of the form “there’s those crazzzzzyyyyyy Palinbot cultists, and then there are those reasonable people who agree with whatever criticisms of Palin I throw out there”, while whining that people haven’t given your brilliant insights the nuanced examination they deserve. Get over yourself.

pseudoforce on June 30, 2011 at 10:45 AM

pseudoforce on June 30, 2011 at 10:45 AM

Make up your damned mind. Either criticisms of Palin and Bachmann are both valid(and not indicative of support of RINO candidates), or they aren’t. Your double standards are only surpassed in their inanity by your teenager-like demeanor when speaking. You’d save a lot of time if you just said “whatever” whenever an opposing argument was made.

MadisonConservative on June 30, 2011 at 10:48 AM

I think what Palin accomplished in her 2 1/2 years as governor is much more impressive than Bachmann’s 4-5 years in congress(tedious disclaimer time – yes Bachmann has done some quality work there).

Dongemaharu on June 30, 2011 at 10:57 AM

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