Quotes of the day

posted at 10:40 pm on June 28, 2011 by Allahpundit

“Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann, who formally announced her presidential candidacy Monday in her hometown of Waterloo, Iowa, enters the race with 69% name recognition among Republicans and ties for the highest Positive Intensity Score of any GOP candidate Gallup tracks.

“Bachmann finds herself in a relatively positive position among Republicans as she begins her formal campaign. Her name recognition is up to 69% for the two-week period of June 13-26, having climbed from 52% in late February/early March. This places her fifth among the most well-known Republicans Gallup measures, behind Sarah Palin, Newt Gingrich, Mitt Romney, and Ron Paul, but well ahead of Tim Pawlenty, Jon Huntsman, and several other competitors. Bachmann’s Positive Intensity Score of 24 ties with Herman Cain’s as the highest such score of any candidate, and is her highest to date. Bachmann’s ability to maintain her relatively high Positive Intensity Score as she has become better known distinguishes her from several of her competitors.”

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“We’ve never found her leading one of our state polls until now but Michele Bachmann’s been on fire for the last two weeks and we find her at the top of the GOP field in both Oregon and Montana when Sarah Palin’s not included. That’s just more indication that if Palin ends up not running Bachmann will pretty instantaneously vault to co-front runner status with Mitt Romney, provided she can continue her current momentum…

“Obviously this is just two states but these numbers speak to the possibility for a two way race between Romney and Bachmann if Palin stays out of the field. They’re 11 points clear of anyone else in Montana and 18 points ahead of anyone else in Oregon. Herman Cain’s momentum appears to have stalled after a tremendous May and early June, Pawlenty and Huntsman still haven’t gotten off the ground, Gingrich doesn’t appear likely ever to return to his former level of support, and Paul, well, he’s probably stuck around 10% in perpetuity…

“In Montana Palin actually leads when she’s included with 20% t0 18% for Bachmann, 17% for Romney, 9% for Gingrich and Paul, 8% for Cain, 7% for Pawlenty, and 4% for Huntsman. In both Montana and Oregon Palin has easily the best net favorability of any of the GOP contenders…she’ll be a force if she runs…it’s just a very big if.”

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“Now in her third House term, Bachmann has never had a bill or resolution she’s sponsored signed into law, and she’s never wielded a committee gavel, either at the full or subcommittee level. Bachmann’s amendments and bills have rarely been considered by any committee, even with the House under GOP control. In a chamber that rewards substantive policy work and insider maneuvering, Bachmann has shunned the inside game, choosing to be more of a bomb thrower than a legislator.

“To her detractors, Bachmann’s sparse record while in Congress demonstrates that she is more of a show horse than a workhorse. These critics, including House colleagues on both sides of the aisle, portray her as unreasonable and cynical, using fear to win political favor and public support rather than seeking consensus or compromise…

“‘There’s not been one single legislative accomplishment she’s had,’ said a GOP lawmaker who serves with Bachmann on the Financial Services Committee. ‘She shows up, but is that the foundation of her campaign opposition? She’s not bringing any achievements, she hasn’t proactively legislated or proactively blocked any bills.’…

“Doug Sachtleben, Bachmann’s communications director, said her legislative record is typical of lawmakers who have served in the House minority.”

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“Having seen the two of them, up close and over a long period of time, it is clear to me that while Tim Pawlenty possesses the judgment, the demeanor, and the readiness to serve as president, Michele Bachmann decidedly does not.

“The Bachmann campaign and congressional offices I inherited were wildly out of control. Stacks upon stacks of unopened contributions filled the campaign office while thousands of communications from citizens waited for an answer. If she is unable, or unwilling, to handle the basic duties of a campaign or congressional office, how could she possibly manage the magnitude of the presidency?…

“I know Tim Pawlenty very well. He is a family man filled with faith and conservative convictions proven in action. He will make a great president. I know Michele Bachmann very well. She is a faithful conservative with great oratory skills, but without any leadership experience or real results from her years in office. She is not prepared to assume the White House in 2013.”

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Stephanopoulos: But that’s not what you said. You said that the Founding Fathers worked tirelessly to end slavery.

Bachmann: Well if you look at one of our Founding Fathers, John Quincy Adams, that’s absolutely true. He was a very young boy when he was with his father serving essentially as his father’s secretary. He tirelessly worked throughout his life to make sure that we did in fact one day eradicate slavery….

Stephanopoulos: He wasn’t one of the Founding Fathers – he was a president, he was a Secretary of State, he was a member of Congress, you’re right he did work to end slavery decades later. But so you are standing by this comment that the Founding Fathers worked tirelessly to end slavery?

Bachmann: Well, John Quincy Adams most certainly was a part of the Revolutionary War era. He was a young boy but he was actively involved.

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And then along comes Perry. Palin doesn’t stand a chance.

Bradky on June 29, 2011 at 12:54 AM

It’s OK. I could vote for Perry too. A poor Dem Lite like yourself’s got no option other than the Brylcreem bandwagon.

pseudoforce on June 29, 2011 at 1:00 AM

But she will be in the raced long enough to blunt a Palin run by splitting votes. Romney will send both thank you notes.

Bradky on June 29, 2011 at 12:30 AM

doubtful. because thanks to the Mittbuttboys the “electable” card as been played. as soon as bachmann is seen as not able to win the conservatives will flock to the one that can. So thanks goes to the Mittbuttboys by making this primary so easy for Palin.

there only real last hope is if she doesn’t run and from Bristol comment today that hope went out the window.

unseen on June 29, 2011 at 1:00 AM

Maybe T-Paw could go on there and still insist he’s top tier as well. He seems to be fading already, eh Hollow?

pseudoforce on June 29, 2011 at 12:57 AM

He’s not fading, but it’s safe to say that thus far he’s underperforming expectations. It’s still early, but if he doesn’t step up his game I hope that Perry jumps in.

Hollowpoint on June 29, 2011 at 1:03 AM

Jayrae on June 28, 2011 at 10:57 PM

Riiight. Medicaid patients must be turned away so she can’t be accused of being paid by Medicaid for services rendered.

csdeven on June 29, 2011 at 1:03 AM

He’s not fading…

Hollowpoint on June 29, 2011 at 1:03 AM

LOL…

pseudoforce on June 29, 2011 at 1:06 AM

About slavery, I have but one question to ask. Which is worse, being a slave owned by a man or a slave owned by a government? I have no experience as to the former, neither as a slave nor as an owner, but I sure as hell know about slavery as to the latter.

Same issue and problem, just a different plantation.

TXUS on June 29, 2011 at 1:08 AM

Same issue and problem, just a different plantation.

TXUS on June 29, 2011 at 1:08 AM

There is a world of difference and your comparison is silly.

Bradky on June 29, 2011 at 1:09 AM

Hey Bishop, get ready. Your girl is going to get it but good.
http://openchannel.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/06/28/6968201-bachmanns-husband-got-137000-in-medicaid-funds

Jayrae on June 28, 2011 at 10:57 PM

You think he should be turning away Medicaid patients?

Why aren’t the liberals all cooing and warm and fuzzy over him taking Medicaid patients, which is like charity?

Wait for the next big exclusive from Stephanococcus: Bachmann’s husband took patients with greedy union goldplated benefits packages. Yet she’s not pro-union! What a scandal!

slickwillie2001 on June 29, 2011 at 1:16 AM

Same issue and problem, just a different plantation.

TXUS on June 29, 2011 at 1:08 AM

There is a world of difference and your comparison is silly.

Bradky on June 29, 2011 at 1:09 AM

No it’s not silly, there was even a book published on the subject.

Dr Evil on June 29, 2011 at 1:18 AM

Wait, there’s more! Bachmann drives from her home to the airport on a highway improved with stimulus funds! Oh my, I’m getting the vapors over the hypocrisy! How dare she!

slickwillie2001 on June 29, 2011 at 1:19 AM

None of the other candidates light up a room like Palin does. Not Perry. Not Bachmann. None of ‘em. Charisma counts.

Punchenko on June 29, 2011 at 1:28 AM

Wait, there’s more! Bachmann drives from her home to the airport on a highway improved with stimulus funds! Oh my, I’m getting the vapors over the hypocrisy! How dare she!

slickwillie2001 on June 29, 2011 at 1:19 AM

I wouldn’t want Bachmann behind the wheel of a car, personally.

Michele Bachmann, the new Thorazine.

Punchenko on June 29, 2011 at 1:29 AM

None of the other candidates light up a room like Palin does. Not Perry. Not Bachmann. None of ‘em. Charisma counts.

Punchenko on June 29, 2011 at 1:28 AM

Unfortunately, if that room is occupied by general election voters most of the light is coming from those holding torches and pitchforks.

Hollowpoint on June 29, 2011 at 1:30 AM

I’ve got ‘Learning To Fly’ on my Mp3.

annoyinglittletwerp on June 29, 2011 at 12:50 AM

Since you all are on the subject of Michele Bachmann and music, I give you my contribution.

steebo77 on June 29, 2011 at 1:31 AM

If Bachmann get’s another ambush interview like this where they’re bombarding her with questions that require complicated answers, she might respond by saying so, especially if it’s a live interview, and then try to set some paramenters on the length of time you’ll have to answer it. She might say, for example, “well, I would be glad to answer your question but it would require me to explain the economic principles the justify my answer, which might take a few minutes.

If pressed for a short answer, say that there is no short answer to the unemployment problem, and the minimum wage law is just one small component of our miserable economy. I would like nothing more than to talk about how to make America prosperous and get people back to work again but it can’t be done in soundbites. Suffice it to say that the minimum wage regulations do affect employment, Stephenpolipuss.

FloatingRock on June 29, 2011 at 1:31 AM

Unfortunately, if that room is occupied by general election voters most of the light is coming from those holding torches and pitchforks.

Hollowpoint on June 29, 2011 at 1:30 AM

Heh. I don’t have much faith in GE voters — not after 2008, at least. I remember talking to a small business owner back in ’08 about why he was voting for Obama and he told me, “We need CHANGE”. Torches and pitchforks, indeed.

Punchenko on June 29, 2011 at 1:35 AM

The example of what happened in American Samoa is an interesting data point on the effect of minimum wages: Minimum Wage Madness Exposed

“…The GAO has just released a report (summary here) on the effect of raising the minimum wage in American Samoa and the Northern Mariana Islands to mainland US levels. What cause could appeal more to liberals? Eliminating discrimination! Treating all American citizens the same! Rescuing exploited workers from evil companies exploiting them!

Well, in the real world, if employees cannot produce value in excess of what they are paid, they don’t have jobs anymore. Anyone who has had to meet a payroll knows this, though people who have made their lives in academia and government can remain immune from this learning…”

slickwillie2001 on June 29, 2011 at 1:37 AM

If Bachmann get’s another ambush interview like this where they’re bombarding her with questions that require complicated answers, she might respond by saying so, especially if it’s a live interview, and then try to set some paramenters on the length of time you’ll have to answer it. She might say, for example, “well, I would be glad to answer your question but it would require me to explain the economic principles the justify my answer, which might take a few minutes.

If pressed for a short answer, say that there is no short answer to the unemployment problem, and the minimum wage law is just one small component of our miserable economy. I would like nothing more than to talk about how to make America prosperous and get people back to work again but it can’t be done in soundbites. Suffice it to say that the minimum wage regulations do affect employment, Stephenpolipuss.

FloatingRock on June 29, 2011 at 1:31 AM

This wasn’t an ambush interview. Sobbinbamapuss was merely asking about her past statements and for some clarification on the minimum wage. Bringing up her JQ Adams comment was a bit much, but everything else was fair game. Even though I side with the Palinista faction, I do agree that substance and specifics must be the focus of this campaign as the economy is the top priority and folks want to know what will be done. With that said, I don’t think Bachmann has the experience — or the gravitas — to make a strong enough case. She could have done a better job if she gave the response you suggested, however.

Punchenko on June 29, 2011 at 1:44 AM

Its not about facts or gaffes, its about defeating Conservatives by defaming them.

The left has gone to great efforts to create an environment conducive to achieve exactly that.

All GOP candidates are forced to walk the gauntlet and at the same time they can choose the Reagan model and talk directly to the American people.

I know in my heart that man is good. That what is right will always eventually triumph. And there’s purpose and worth to each and every life.
Ronald Reagan

All great change in America begins at the dinner table. Ronald Reagan

With a healthy positive dose of Conservative message.

No one on the Right needs to help with the left’s ardent efforts to defame.

Speakup on June 29, 2011 at 1:51 AM

Speakup on June 29, 2011 at 1:51 AM

Nice post!..:)

Dire Straits on June 29, 2011 at 1:52 AM

Dire Straits on June 29, 2011 at 1:52 AM

My pleasure.

Speakup on June 29, 2011 at 2:13 AM

The only way to win in in 2012 is to make the dimwit democrats who would vote for a yellow dog if it had a “D” beside its name that they are voting against their own well being if they keep voting dumb Dem.

This is going to be difficult if we keep letting Jugears and the Perpetual Money Machine keep the gravy train full of “free” gravy.

We need to defund the union machines; we need to defund the ACORN wannabe organizing for communism machines, and we need to deflate the myth that anything came from the God-awful stimulus disaster other than insurmountable debt and widespread economic pain for the ones that The One supposedly represents.

Let Jugearnaut keep his juggernaut of economic destruction running full steam and everyone will figure out that all of his empty lies were exactly that; lies.

Goddamn America any self-made son of a bitch who is trying to rip America apart by her seams.

ABO 2012!

hillbillyjim on June 29, 2011 at 2:59 AM

The only way to win in in 2012 is to make the dimwit democrats who would vote for a yellow dog if it had a “D” beside its name that they are voting against their own well being if they keep voting dumb Dem.

This is going to be difficult if we keep letting Jugears and the Perpetual Money Machine keep the gravy train full of “free” gravy.

We need to defund the union machines; we need to defund the ACORN wannabe organizing for communism machines, and we need to deflate the myth that anything came from the God-awful stimulus disaster other than insurmountable debt and widespread economic pain for the ones that The One supposedly represents.

Let Jugearnaut keep his juggernaut of economic destruction running full steam and everyone will figure out that all of his empty lies were exactly that; lies.

Go███mn America any self-made son of a b█tch who is trying to rip America apart by her seams.

ABO 2012!

hillbillyjim on June 29, 2011 at 3:03 AM

*Redacted for your reading pleasure, thanks to the funtime filter.

hillbillyjim on June 29, 2011 at 3:04 AM

Now I get it. That’s how this administration answers any questions:

As I have always said, um, ████ ███████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████

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hillbillyjim on June 29, 2011 at 3:10 AM

See, I found Eric the Red (Communist) Holder’s redacting machine. Now I can answer any nagging questions about sending guns to narco-terrorists with a big black slash of nothing, just like the big boys over at Justice.

Cool.

████ ███ running. F██████ ███████s.

hillbillyjim on June 29, 2011 at 3:18 AM

LSM: Yes, yes, we’ll get back to trashing Sarah Palin momentarily, but this Bachmann b*tch is getting a little too uppity and we have to appease the feminists briefly by throwing a few knives at her. Can’t have her inching too close to the nomination that we intend to give to Romney or Huntsman, can we?

Extrafishy on June 29, 2011 at 6:31 AM

John Adams worked to end slavery and George Washington freed his slaves in his will. I do think that the founding fathers were aware of the obvious split among the Colonists in regards to slavery, but at the time of the founding, ratification was their first priority.

People could just say that.

Bachmann will make mistakes, she is only human. But if she is going to spend a lot of time talking about the Revolution, a basic chronology of events would be helpful.

The media loves to build people up and tear them down. It is how they get their ratings. And right now, Bachmann is the one under the microscope. A lot of this is as relevant as Gingrich’s Tiffany account.

The interesting thing is that anyone would consider George S a journalist at all, considering his past association with the Clintons.

Terrye on June 29, 2011 at 6:41 AM

Putting aside the ridiculous, “was it a gaffe or wasn’t it” argument and historical nit-picking, I don’t know what MB was trying to accomplish with her answer. Our founders wrote and ratified a Constitution that sanctioned slavery. It included a clause counting slaves as 3/5s of a person to extend disproportionate representation to white slave holders. It permitted black people to not be recognized as people under the law. However bitter it may have tasted to men like Adams (father and son) they were accomplices.

All of this was necessary to ratify our Constitution. I think that did the right thing, as terrible as it was. Without a Constitution this experiment in democracy would have failed.

But we should not sugar coat this bitter pill and I do not know MB tried. Did she think that she was going to rehabilitate the founders in the eyes of the descendants of those slaves? Who knows? I just think it was poor judgment for her to not address the subject in a forthright manner.

MJBrutus on June 29, 2011 at 7:14 AM

It included a clause counting slaves as 3/5s of a person to extend disproportionate representation to white slave holders.

MJBrutus on June 29, 2011 at 7:14 AM

Ummm … no.

darwin on June 29, 2011 at 7:19 AM

i truly detest journalists…playing gotcha instead of asking the issues that face us…

cmsinaz on June 29, 2011 at 7:26 AM

Bachmann (I RAISED 23 foster children – MAKE BARACK OBAMA A ONE TERM PRESIDENT) is totally inexperienced. She is completely delusional if she thinks she could be President.

23 foster childred and “MAKE BARACK OBAMA A ONE TERM PRESIDENT” does not a president make.

(… first they came for Sarah… and Michele said NOTHING.)

stenwin77 on June 29, 2011 at 7:26 AM

Ummm … no.

darwin on June 29, 2011 at 7:19 AM

Oh please enlighten me. Why did they add that clause?

MJBrutus on June 29, 2011 at 7:29 AM

i truly detest journalists…playing gotcha instead of asking the issues that face us…

cmsinaz on June 29, 2011 at 7:26 AM

Well, I suppose that could be because they’re not journalists … they’re propagandists. We really should stop referring to them as journalists it only helps them.

darwin on June 29, 2011 at 7:29 AM

Oh please enlighten me. Why did they add that clause?

MJBrutus on June 29, 2011 at 7:29 AM

Because representation in the House is based on population. If the southern states counted all slaves then that would have given them more Representatives, and therefore greater numbers in the House, allowing them to kill or stall any anti-slavery legislation.

They agreed to count slaves 3/5 as a compromise.

darwin on June 29, 2011 at 7:32 AM

OT: so dear leader is going to hold a press conference this am so he can answer those tough minded questions from the lsm….

let the drooling begin

cmsinaz on June 29, 2011 at 7:34 AM

None of the other candidates light up a room like Palin does. Not Perry. Not Bachmann. None of ‘em. Charisma counts.

Punchenko on June 29, 2011 at 1:28 AM

Apparently, you’ve never been in a room with Perry.

TxAnn56 on June 29, 2011 at 7:36 AM

darwin on June 29, 2011 at 7:32 AM

That is simply the flip side of what I said! If slaves did not count at all then the South would not have signed. If they counted fully then the North would not have agreed. Since in all other respects slaves were denied recognition of people the logical conclusion is that they should not have counted at all. Slaves could not vote, obviously, so fewer white voters in the South would have disproportionate representation in Congress since their votes counted for themselves plus 3/5s of the slave population. That was the nature of the compromise.

Furthermore, your failed attempt to pick nits in my post is a side show. It adds nothing to the discussion about the wisdom of MB downplaying the nature of our nation’s founding.

MJBrutus on June 29, 2011 at 7:43 AM

I guess the microscope was non existent for the “O” as a matter of fact we all have no idea of the truth about the “O”. Lots of ink to the positive but not one thing provable with facts. Where is the FBI and CIA?

mixplix on June 29, 2011 at 7:43 AM

Furthermore, your failed attempt to pick nits in my post is a side show. It adds nothing to the discussion about the wisdom of MB downplaying the nature of our nation’s founding.

MJBrutus on June 29, 2011 at 7:43 AM

Your comment wasn’t clear. Maybe I need more coffee, or maybe you do. Either way you’re just too defensive and sensitive this morning. Go give your teddy bear a hug.

darwin on June 29, 2011 at 7:52 AM

darwin on June 29, 2011 at 7:29 AM

good point D

cmsinaz on June 29, 2011 at 8:01 AM

darwin on June 29, 2011 at 7:52 AM

LOL.

kingsjester on June 29, 2011 at 8:06 AM

Same issue and problem, just a different plantation.

TXUS on June 29, 2011 at 1:08 AM

Exactly. All fruits of my labor is belong to Uncle Sam.

AH_C on June 29, 2011 at 8:15 AM

MJBrutus on June 29, 2011 at 7:43 AM

But it did effect the South proportionally, remember “property” is taxed on. If a Slave was considered property, the slave owner would be taxed accordingly. They had to pay for the system of labor they institutionalized. I am a genealogist, go through any of the old slave schedules, and you can look for yourself. The folks in South Carolina signed petitions, because their FPC neighbors were being taxed on members of their family – they had to be counted according to race and taxed accordingly, even though they were not slaves but member’s of the FPC head of household’s family. These FPC plantation owners- white neighbors wanted to remedy the inequity through petitions. There were cases where those same FPC owned slaves themselves. Lot’s of early colonial life in this country get’s glossed over. It’s not as black and white as our dumbed down media’s narrative, would want people to believe.

Dr Evil on June 29, 2011 at 8:17 AM

FPC – Free People of Color. They often get left out of the discussion, not everyone who was non white, were slaves in the colonies.

Dr Evil on June 29, 2011 at 8:18 AM

Our founders wrote and ratified a Constitution that sanctioned undercounted slavery for the purpose of representation. It included a clause counting slaves as 3/5s of a person to extend minimize disproportionate representation to white any (There were also Black – one of the first was Black) slave holders. It permitted black peopleto not be recognized as people under the law weakened the representation clout of large large States – using the 1 rep per 35K formula, IIRC GA and/or NC “lost” approx 50% representation on the 3/5 rule. If not for the need to compromise and using the 0/5 rule, that State would have had only a couple reps, that’s how large the Slave population was in that State. Look it up in the 1st Census back in 1790. However bitter it may have tasted to men like Adams (father and son) they were accomplices to compromise, they took the long view that eventually this disgusting activity would end.

All of this was necessary to ratify our Constitution. I think that did the right thing, as terrible as it was. Without a Constitution this experiment in democracy would have failed.

But we should not sugar coat this bitter pill and I do not know MB tried. Did she think that she was going to rehabilitate the founders in the eyes of the descendants of those slaves? Who knows? I just think it was poor judgment for her to not address the subject in a forthright manner.
MJBrutus on June 29, 2011 at 7:14 AM

In order to learn from history, you must understand the facts on the ground at the time and not the revisions thereafter. The biggest fallacy is that of WHITE SLAVEHOLDERS. There were also black slaveholders. There were Indian slaveholders. There were even Chinese later on, especially on the West Coast during their boom after the Civil War — unless you believe that they all “immigrated” over to partake of personal freedom.

AH_C on June 29, 2011 at 8:57 AM

I wonder what Madison Conservative will say now. He who claimed there was nothing in Bachmann’s cabinet.

promachus on June 28, 2011 at 11:00 PM

I never said any such thing, but please, keep supporting Palin by declaring Bachmann to be somehow worse.

MadisonConservative on June 29, 2011 at 9:04 AM

Since in all other respects slaves were denied recognition of people the logical conclusion is that they should not have counted at all.

How is this logical?

Slaves could not vote, obviously, so fewer white voters in the South would have disproportionate representation in Congress since their votes counted for themselves plus 3/5s of the slave population. That was the nature of the compromise.

Not exactly. At the time of the ratification, the FF could not know whether Slave States would allow slaves to vote or not. Cause>effect.

Furthermore, your failed attempt to pick nits in my post is a side show. It adds nothing to the discussion about the wisdom of MB downplaying the nature of our nation’s founding.

MJBrutus on June 29, 2011 at 7:43 AM

I don’t think it was nit-picking so much as getting the facts right first before connecting dots. Agree with you that MB should not squander her limited opportunities on trying to give a history lesson in 30 secs. Focus on our current issues. In the event that she is asked such questions again, she should state something as suggested earlier above that that is a deep topic that can’t be adequately addressed in this interview and flip the subject to present issues, i.e. we’re experiencing economic slavery and the progressive Fed is our Massa.

AH_C on June 29, 2011 at 9:12 AM

smellthecoffee on June 28, 2011 at 11:57 PM

I hope that the Romney administration keeps Bachmann and Palin out of consideration for leading the department of education….

Bradky on June 29, 2011 at 12:03 AM

Well, that’s the difference between you and me. I hope Palin gets elected and abolishes the Department of Education.

smellthecoffee on June 29, 2011 at 9:25 AM

AH_C on June 29, 2011 at 9:12 AM

Many of your corrections/rewrites are simply incorrect. Others are clarifications that just aren’t germane. It isn’t worth the time or effort to set straight.

The point stands whether one accepts your pedantic revisions or not that MB attempted to clean up the record of our founding and in doing so needlessly made herself less appealing to the electorate.

MJBrutus on June 29, 2011 at 9:39 AM

None of the other candidates light up a room like Palin does. Not Perry. Not Bachmann. None of ‘em. Charisma counts.

Punchenko on June 29, 2011 at 1:28 AM

Apparently, most of America doesn’t share your view. In her case, the crowd makeup is the reason for your impression that she lights up the room.

csdeven on June 29, 2011 at 9:52 AM

Many of your corrections/rewrites are simply incorrect. Others are clarifications that just aren’t germane. It isn’t worth the time or effort to set straight.

The point stands whether one accepts your pedantic revisions or not that MB attempted to clean up the record of our founding and in doing so needlessly made herself less appealing to the electorate.

MJBrutus on June 29, 2011 at 9:39 AM

Show me anywhere in the constitution or supporting documents where Blacks = Slaves. The FF were specific on Slaves, not blacks. Equating the two is revisionist.

AH_C on June 29, 2011 at 9:54 AM

The point stands whether one accepts your pedantic revisions or not that MB attempted to clean up the record of our founding and in doing so needlessly made herself less appealing to the electorate.

MJBrutus on June 29, 2011 at 9:39 AM

Dude, the media can make ANYONE less appealing in a heartbeat. Normally, they concentrate on anyone who isn’t a democrat or rabid leftist.

Everyone makes mistakes. Everyone. This isn’t Bachmanns making herself less appealing, it’s the damn Pravda arm of the left attacking any threat to his royal higness Obama and his court of criminals.

darwin on June 29, 2011 at 10:00 AM

Apparently, most of America doesn’t share your view. In her case, the crowd makeup is the reason for your impression that she lights up the room.

csdeven on June 29, 2011 at 9:52 AM

Great … then you have no problem with her running as she’ll flame out in the primary. Right?

darwin on June 29, 2011 at 10:02 AM

AH_C on June 29, 2011 at 9:54 AM

Correct. I was sloppy with my language. Congratulations on setting the record straight professor. And it provides such indispensable insight into the discussion about the wisdom of MB’s remarks.

/sarc

MJBrutus on June 29, 2011 at 10:05 AM

Why is it that Michele Bachmann gets grilled about what she knows (or doesn’t know) about John Quincy Adams from about 200 years ago, and nobody can ask Obama a question about what HE did two years ago? Or about how many states there are in the Union NOW?

Steve Z on June 29, 2011 at 11:01 AM

Ah yes, Romney will win for sure.

He’s for government “clean energy” subsidies, government run health insurance, deficit spending, and not really changing mush as we slowly go broke.

Surely the Tea Party will support him; I mean we need a leader who will just stand there as the economy slowly collapses. If you want someone not really willing to do much and not willing to try to fix anything Romney is your man.

Obama will make things worse by setting off the bomb early, Romney will wait and watch the timer run down to 0 on it’s own… which I guess is awesome of you plan on dying in the next 10-15 years before the destruction happens.

I’d prefer someone who might actually try to avoid the bomb going off… sorry but that isn’t Romney.

I hope that the Romney administration keeps Bachmann and Palin out of consideration for leading the department of education….

Bradky on June 29, 2011 at 12:03 AM

If we have a Romney administration and you have small kids; teach them a foreign language and get ready to move somewhere else. Once the debt bomb explodes you’re not going to want to be here.

If you can’t leave; learning what plants in the woods are edible will be more valuable than the mandatory “green energy initiative” classes they’ll get in public school.

In 10-15 years 505 of projected government revenue will be used for interest payments, and that percent will accelerate as more debt and higher interest take effect… I don’t see our current trajectory as getting us past another 40-45 years (probably less) before the government can’t manage to pay debt alone.

So why support a candidate who has a platform of keeping the current trajectory to disaster?

gekkobear on June 29, 2011 at 1:28 PM

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