Who’s up for snooping on doctors?
posted at 6:10 pm on June 27, 2011 by Ed Morrissey
Maybe the Obama administration can call this Operation Sick and Curious as an homage to their ATF fiasco, Operation Fast and Furious. To channel Glenn Reynolds, they told me if I voted for John McCain that we’d get government spying on ordinary Americans with the excuse that it’s for our own good. And they were right!
Alarmed by a shortage of primary care doctors, Obama administration officials are recruiting a team of “mystery shoppers” to pose as patients, call doctors’ offices and request appointments to see how difficult it is for people to get care when they need it.
The administration says the survey will address a “critical public policy problem”: the increasing shortage of primary care doctors, including specialists in internal medicine and family practice. It will also try to discover whether doctors are accepting patients with private insurance while turning away those in government health programs that pay lower reimbursement rates.
Federal officials predict that more than 30 million Americans will gain coverage under the health care law passed last year. “These newly insured Americans will need to seek out new primary care physicians, further exacerbating the already growing problem” of a shortage of such physicians in the United States, the Department of Health and Human Services said in a description of the project prepared for the White House.
Plans for the survey have riled many doctors because the secret shoppers will not identify themselves as working for the government.
“Secret shoppers” are employed in many industries to determine delivery of products and services. At one time, I was a Secret Shopper for Domino’s Pizza … which should give you an idea how many pizzas I ate when I was single. It’s a common way to score both products and service in retail, identify bad practices and poor performers, and correct problems before they spread and start to damage reputations. I’m not sure how common the practice might be today, when websites, e-mail, Facebook, and Twitter feeds provide customers with rapid feedback options, but it remains at least an option for anyone doing business with the public.
However, “Secret Shoppers” had one thing in common — they were employed by the companies themselves. Occasionally, consumer groups perform the same function, but that’s also a private-sector function. The government doesn’t conduct secret-shopper surveys on fast-food joints or clothing stores because customer service levels are none of their business.
Besides, it’s an inappropriate conduct for government to operate in secret unless there is an overriding state interest in doing so. Restaurants, for example, deal with a host of government regulation at the state and local level. Inspections are part of that process, but while they may be unannounced, the government doesn’t conduct them clandestinely. The operators are also aware of regulations with which they are required to comply before inspectors arrive, and those regulations have to become law through some public process.
So where’s the regulation for which the Obama administration wants to inspect? What authority or jurisdiction does the executive branch have in this instance? What is the overriding state interest that would justify secrecy in collecting data on the activities of private individuals? For an administration that keeps insisting that its health-care reform bill didn’t amount to a government takeover of the sector, the White House is certainly acting as if they own the whole joint.









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This is the most egregious endeavor ever launched by this administration.
It will lead to to one of two things:
1. The destruction of the US Health Care System
or
2. The implementation of Obamacare through the allegation of inappropriate social justice by the welfare pimps and queens who insist on EMS rides for sore throats and stuffy noses.
……………
In other words? It’s Obama’s “Us vs. You”
/Time to choose, I guess.
Key West Reader on June 27, 2011 at 6:14 PM
Is this against the law? Anyone know?
Bishop on June 27, 2011 at 6:19 PM
Operation curiously sick is more like it.
The good doctors have gone, or are goign gulching, and no sane person should blame them.
Schadenfreude on June 27, 2011 at 6:20 PM
You know, maybe they should have researched this kind of thing BEFORE passing ObamaCare.
LibertarianRepublican on June 27, 2011 at 6:20 PM
Will they give them Brown shirts to wEar? Put Yellow stars in the windows of Doctor’s office who don’t provide fast enough services? Haul off offenders to rural ‘re-education’ clinics to slave away for the good of the Motherland?
michaelo on June 27, 2011 at 6:21 PM
Not yet.
VegasRick on June 27, 2011 at 6:21 PM
Creepy Sibelius should stop this right away. Even creepier Obama should ask for Change. Kepp Hope alive.
Schadenfreude on June 27, 2011 at 6:21 PM
Keep hope alive!
Schadenfreude on June 27, 2011 at 6:21 PM
Can’t see them going for the secret shopper moniker, they’ll probably want some sort of acronym for the program:
Government
Efficiency
Survey
Testing
Accessibility of
Physician
Options
Chip on June 27, 2011 at 6:22 PM
When are the secret police going to round us up and put us in re-education camps? When is the GOP going to wake up and quit trying to work with this megalomaniac?
flytier on June 27, 2011 at 6:22 PM
Anyone remember this?
Count it!
Rebar on June 27, 2011 at 6:23 PM
they fold me if I voted for John McCain that we’d
Those bastards! Who’s gonna help me unfold Ed!
VegasRick on June 27, 2011 at 6:24 PM
How about some secret shopping at the Fed? The EPA? The White House?
Knucklehead on June 27, 2011 at 6:24 PM
How many unnecessary foot amputations did they uncover?
joeindc44 on June 27, 2011 at 6:25 PM
That’s pretty good!
VegasRick on June 27, 2011 at 6:25 PM
O’Bambi – the reincarnated Snoop Docky Doc.
honsy on June 27, 2011 at 6:25 PM
Then PBHO’s Stasi can get around to counting how many patients of a particular race are being treated by individual doctors, and force them to achieve an equal ratio.
Bishop on June 27, 2011 at 6:26 PM
So what’s their stupid solution going to be? Force people to become GPs and family doc’s by putting guns to their heads?
citrus on June 27, 2011 at 6:26 PM
obambi had a brain scan and they found nothing.
VegasRick on June 27, 2011 at 6:27 PM
enemies, enemies, everywhere.
rob verdi on June 27, 2011 at 6:27 PM
COMMERCE CLAUSE!!!
– crr6
angryed on June 27, 2011 at 6:27 PM
It is. Through the FCC lawe, nobody cab record.
This will only lead to folks like my brother in law to stop practicing medicine for fear. He is retiring early and will no longer operate on Medicaid or Medicare patients.’
He explained that these new laws will open doors for physicians from the Middle East to open practices and perform surgeries on our elderly.
He retains his license, “just in case”.
Key West Reader on June 27, 2011 at 6:27 PM
Your papers, bitte…
Roy Rogers on June 27, 2011 at 6:27 PM
Think about those two points carefully. Does anyone else see a possible disconnect?
sockpuppetpolitic on June 27, 2011 at 6:28 PM
Nope. They will do what every other country with govt run health care does….import “doctors” from India, China, Bangladesh, etc.
angryed on June 27, 2011 at 6:28 PM
.
Cowards.
Operation Curious, Yellow.
mrt721 on June 27, 2011 at 6:29 PM
I’m done.
Key West Reader on June 27, 2011 at 6:30 PM
Now where did I put my white lab coat…?
Seven Percent Solution on June 27, 2011 at 6:30 PM
Great; as if doctors offices aren’t busy enough. Now I’ll have to wait even longer for these phantom patients.
yubley on June 27, 2011 at 6:31 PM
No.
Some physicians will not see Medicare / Medicaid patients. Most of the physicians that do put a limit on the number they see. For a physician in private practice they generally lose money on everyone of those patients.
Aviator on June 27, 2011 at 6:32 PM
Yes, you’re exactly right. Unfortunately.
citrus on June 27, 2011 at 6:33 PM
Can I come to you to remove my kids tonsils if he gets a sore throat?
VegasRick on June 27, 2011 at 6:33 PM
I deedn’t find a union card in zese paperssss….TAKE HIM AWAY!
Bishop on June 27, 2011 at 6:34 PM
Obama care will be about as useful as TSA.
pat on June 27, 2011 at 6:36 PM
Exactly my thought!
sockpuppetpolitic on June 27, 2011 at 6:36 PM
Obama Explains How He Wants To Eliminate Private Insurance
Roy Rogers on June 27, 2011 at 6:36 PM
is it against the law?
heck, aren’t they using the patriot act against doctors in Iowa?
joeindc44 on June 27, 2011 at 6:37 PM
He went for a vasectomy and had nothing to snip.
darwin-t on June 27, 2011 at 6:38 PM
Of course not, a doctor’s office has to do this if they are to avoid going bankrupt. What is charged those with private insurance (including government workers with gold-plated healthcare plans) and those that pay cash, subsidizes those on Medicare and Medicaid.
slickwillie2001 on June 27, 2011 at 6:39 PM
On the up side at least the prostate exam will be done by a professional instead of a dimwit groper.
Aviator on June 27, 2011 at 6:40 PM
If PBHO’s little plan doesn’t play out they way he wants, I suppose his lackeys can force certain doctors to do as they say, ala Gunwalker, to obtain the desired results.
Bishop on June 27, 2011 at 6:40 PM
Thanks.
Chip on June 27, 2011 at 6:41 PM
Ding. Ding. Ding. I don’t know if this is the exact scenario that will unfold, but either HHS or the DOJ will announce that our present system is raaaaacist and lawsuits will follow.
Buy Danish on June 27, 2011 at 6:41 PM
I know how you feel KWR. I never served in the military but now I understand why the soldiers and Marines get R&R. Sometimes one must recharge in order to stay focused on the larger fight.
darwin-t on June 27, 2011 at 6:42 PM
Meanwhile…
… As government bureaucrats peer through the blinds into the nation’s doctors offices, illegal aliens laugh as they dial 911 and get a free trip to the emergency room for a stuffy nose.
Seven Percent Solution on June 27, 2011 at 6:43 PM
“Senseless, brainless and ballless is no way to go through life son”
VegasRick on June 27, 2011 at 6:43 PM
Doctors who are found to refuse a secret shopper claiming to be on Medicare will be denied the ability to take any Medicare patients.
This may not be entirely a bad thing. Except for Medicare patients.
Dhuka on June 27, 2011 at 6:51 PM
Brilliant. Perfect.
TXUS on June 27, 2011 at 6:56 PM
Your papers, bitte…
Roy Rogers on June 27, 2011 at 6:27 PM
I turned myself in.
I was pretty bummed when nothing happened.
annoyinglittletwerp on June 27, 2011 at 6:58 PM
For everyone who has a living mother, father, sister, brother, aunt, uncle, cousin, sibling or child?
This monstrosity must, at all costs be repealed. You have no idea what we are up against if this sticks. If it is not repealed and rebuked, our Seniors are at direct risk.
I am appalled at the SCOTUS for taking a pass, due to an election cycle, and I’d be pleased to hear their take on the fact that a sitting member of the SCOTUS actually helped to author this monstrosity. Americans would be very pleased to know that a “Justice” on the SCOTUS would recuse herself from opining on this disgusting piece of legislation that was authored by her and shoved down the throats of our Greatest Generation.
Key West Reader on June 27, 2011 at 6:59 PM
Since BHO believes the federal government can mandate that a private citizen do whatever BHO wants them to do, why doesn’t he mandate that all doctors treat everybody for free!! And, since the Congress won’t pass it, he can just declare it to be so by (Royal) Executive (Proclamation) Order!!
Right, I’m kidding.
But, it makes about as much sense as anything else he’s done lately.
IndieDogg on June 27, 2011 at 7:04 PM
You missed out on beaucoup LBFM’s.
Roy Rogers on June 27, 2011 at 7:05 PM
Watch for his own party to attempt to remove him for “personal reasons and personal health”.
It will happen.
Key West Reader on June 27, 2011 at 7:08 PM
A doctor friend of mine, an original Obama supporter who recently moved here to Texas from NYC, is so livid over ObamaCare and this latest intrusion that I’m starting to worry whether he’s soon going to find himself on a WH or SS Watch List. He tells me that not one of his (formerly) do-gooder liberal colleagues and certainly no doctor he knows in Texas is about to comply with it. They will quit practicing first and flip hamburgers if they have to, as he said.
Did I say, “I told you so”? Well, not exactly. But I did say to my friend, who also happens to be Jewish, “Glad ya finally found Jesus. Just sorry your Baptism came via a 2,000 page bill, instead of water.”
TXUS on June 27, 2011 at 7:23 PM
We always knew Bush was a dirty rotten spy for violating peoples rights …
tarpon on June 27, 2011 at 7:39 PM
HOW in Gods’ name, does this megga POS get away with this cr@p? WhoTH does this kinda shiite? Oh wait, I think I already know the answer to my own question..a freakin socialist/marxist/communist/progressive/satan loving/azzhole… When the he!! can we get this stinkin POS out of our hair/lives? I am marking the days off my calendar…with a great, big, gigantic red marker! *grrrrr*
sicoit on June 27, 2011 at 7:41 PM
This is fraud. Every doctor who gets “surveyed” is a doctor who is the victim of a theft, a theft of time and resources. And I hope every one of them mails HHS a bill. Doctors don’t pay administrative staff to be on stand-by just in case Kathleen Sebelius has some questions. While the taxpayer-funded time-waster is tying up the line, REAL patients are waiting for help.
And here’s another thing… Pharmaceutical companies typically offer compensation for survey data. They recognize the value of the doctor’s time. They’re stealing.
Murf76 on June 27, 2011 at 7:45 PM
Why? Is that supposed to be illegal now?
I could save them a lot of money. There are plenty of doctors who no longer take new Medicare patients, much less Medicaid patients.
And why not? Is the government now going to mandate that doctors see patients they don’t want to see? When exactly did doctors become slaves?
tom on June 27, 2011 at 8:19 PM
Ministrie fur State Sicuritie, or for short: StaSic
lacerta on June 27, 2011 at 8:31 PM
It’s good to be The King!
So is Barry thinking of making SLAVES out of anyone in the medical field. He might want to check that Constitution thing – the one he used to “lecture” on.
Something about each man’s labor being his own. To sell as his see’s fit.
GarandFan on June 27, 2011 at 8:36 PM
I connect this with the government taking over all financial aid.
They’ll claim that there’s a shortage of doctors, then they’ll use that to justify the ‘If you take federal monies, you have to study what we tell you.’
The next step will be, “You have to serve in national health care for x years to have financial aid.”
‘Problem’ ‘solved’.
The_Livewire on June 27, 2011 at 8:38 PM
Patriot Act for Doctors….
Suck it up, AARP.
Suck.
It.
Up.
Next up, we will deputize doctors to look for stink bombs in 97 year old grandmas with incurable leukemia…
Mcguyver on June 27, 2011 at 8:41 PM
I feel another executive order coming soon…
BTW, won’t this “investigation” be a terrible waste of doctors’ time as they have to deal with patient inquiries from people who aren’t actually patients, thus reducing the amount of time and resources they have to deal with people who really are sick?
Jay Mac on June 27, 2011 at 8:47 PM
Not just a waste. A theft. Doctors PAY their administrative staffs to deal with prospective patients on the phone, not to get scammed by Kathleen Sebelius and Barack Obama.
Murf76 on June 27, 2011 at 8:52 PM
This must be a policy in keeping with our ideals, because Obama was so against acting in violation of our highest ideals.
Axeman on June 27, 2011 at 8:55 PM
Were I a Doctor, nd not already gulching, I’d follow in the steps of Dr. Thomas Hendricks:
LegendHasIt on June 27, 2011 at 9:09 PM
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They became slaves when BHO was elected presentdent and claimed healthcare is a “right” for anyone “present” in the USA.
MidWestFarmer on June 27, 2011 at 9:11 PM
Somebody has to snoop on em, they’re trying to chop our feet off!!!
Akzed on June 27, 2011 at 9:17 PM
I don’t know the extent of their “sting” operation, either.
Wasting (stealing) time from my staff and actual patients is bad enough, but if they actually BOOK an appointment, a new patient is blocked off for more time than a recurring one. That means that possibly TWO or even THREE patients who needed to be seen can’t be over a fake patient encounter.
DrAllecon on June 27, 2011 at 9:21 PM
I think some doctores can look forward to the following letter from the governnment. “We understand you are discriminating against medicare/medicade patients. Please report to this office to explain your unconscienable actions to a HHS representative.”
vegasguy on June 27, 2011 at 9:58 PM
More gangsta govment. (Oh crap. There I go being all racist agin.)
exdeadhead on June 27, 2011 at 10:17 PM
The NYT in the link above describes it as mostly lying to receptionists. Here’s the example they sited:
Now, that’s going to deprive you of your receptionist’s time for some little while. And your patients, who have REAL needs, will either be on hold or getting the busy signal. Whether you’ll be bothered as well is entirely dependent upon how soon the taxpayer-funded time-waster on the phone gives up his ruse. The example above would likely require your opinion. It sounds like pneumonia or bronchitis. And really, most doctors would be reluctant to blow that off without at least recommending that the patient present himself at an urgent care facility.
It’s total fraud. Why should you spend ONE MINUTE answering a question for a non-existent patient?
And the stupidity of this is that they’d get better data with a straightforward, polite request. And they’d get their response from the office manager instead of the lowest paid employee in the joint, who may, or may not, have the correct facts. Heck, if they offered each of the 4,185 doctors they intend to perpetrate this fraud on, 100 dollars each.. they’d have the actual doctor opinion and still save the taxpayer 300k.
But instead, they start off a process with abject dishonesty and think they’re going to get good data or that anybody’s going to believe their crock about “the data would be kept confidential”.
Murf76 on June 27, 2011 at 10:59 PM
Well, if they are trying to find doctors who are refusing to take Medicare patients, Denver is a good place to start. Many doctors have sent out letters to their Medicare and other patients stating that they no longer take Medicate patients. Instead, they have set up their own Medicare Advantage plans, which I am sure Obama will try to shut down.
francesca on June 28, 2011 at 12:21 AM
It’s synonymous with the concept that “health care is a right”. If health care is a right, then I have the right to your labor as a doctor. If I have a right to your labor, then you are my slave. QED
PackerBronco on June 28, 2011 at 1:30 AM
Brought to us by the same people who sold guns to Mexican cartels. Are we paying a bunch of juveniles who play video games all day to come up with this stuff? Guess you can’t blackmail someone unless you snoop out the dirt first.
Kissmygrits on June 28, 2011 at 9:37 AM
Pretty much. They’ve proposed ways of punishing medical students financially for deciding to go into subspecialties rather than going into primary care, such as actually charging them money for deciding to do a residency program in a specialty, and giving them some sort of tax break or stipend for going into primary care. Their idea is based on the fact that medical students come out of medical school with hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt which they believe encourages them to pick subspecialties for their higher levels of reimbursement. Their plan is repulsive on its face, but this is the same administration who believes it’s okay to force you to buy health insurance you don’t want, or to buy a little tiny car that gets 60 miles to the gallon that you don’t want, so why not force students into a career they don’t want? After all, it’s for the good of the country.
eyedoc on June 28, 2011 at 9:51 AM