TSA: We’re protecting you from the incontinent, or something

posted at 10:05 am on June 27, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

Reports over the weekend that an elderly woman had to remove an adult diaper to complete a TSA airport screening rocketed through social-media networks.  CNN reported that Jean Weber filed a complaint after a TSA agent demanded that her wheelchair-bound mother remove her Depends in order to clear the checkpoint.  Late yesterday, TSA insists that their agent followed the correct procedure, as CNN reports in a follow-up:

The TSA released a statement Sunday defending its agents’ actions at the Northwest Florida Regional Airport.

“While every person and item must be screened before entering the secure boarding area, TSA works with passengers to resolve security alarms in a respectful and sensitive manner,” the federal agency said. “We have reviewed the circumstances involving this screening and determined that our officers acted professionally and according to proper procedure.”

Weber responded to TSA:

Jean Weber told CNN’s Fredricka Whitfield on Sunday that the security officers may have been procedurally correct, but she still does not believe they were justified, especially given her mother’s frail condition.

“If this is your procedure — which I do understand — I also feel that your procedure needs to be changed,” she said.

This is what we get for disconnecting airport security from common sense. Might an adult diaper be used in a terrorist attack? Possibly. The Christmas Day attack used PETN hidden in a man’s briefs, which failed to explode when lit thanks to the incompetence of the bomber. But is it likely that a 95-year-old wheelchair-bound woman from Florida traveling to Michigan with her family will be an underwear bomber? Did this family provide any known indicators that would give a suspicion of terroristic intent?

If we’re groping small children and forcing incontinent elderly women to get on airplanes without their Depends — as happened in this case — then we’re doing airport security wrong. It’s long past time that we called a halt to random TSA groping sessions and start applying common sense to our screening procedures.

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I’d like to see that organization sued out of existence under the Posse Comitatus law…or simply defunded and relegated to history’s dustbin…ASAP!!

landlines on June 27, 2011 at 12:56 PM

Posse Comitatus doesn’t apply unless the government uses the military for civil law enforcement purposes. What does apply here is the government’s clear violation of the 4th Amendment for every person searched without reasonable suspicion or a search warrant.

Trafalgar on June 27, 2011 at 1:01 PM

We could, I suppose, petition our government for the redress of our grievance on this issue…but we’d better do it fast before they take that one away too.

Trafalgar on June 27, 2011 at 1:04 PM

How about this, passengers are given a stun gun to hold against the TSA guy’s crotch while he searches them, if they feel he goes too far they pull the trigger.

Bishop on June 27, 2011 at 1:13 PM

Common sense meets Obama’s Bureaucracy…….

…..Granny loses.

PappyD61 on June 27, 2011 at 1:15 PM

Perfect title, Ed!

Schadenfreude on June 27, 2011 at 1:16 PM

A commenter last night said something to this effect “Oh, pfui, it’s a stink bomb”.

Schadenfreude on June 27, 2011 at 1:17 PM

Why anyone, not absolutely forced to do so by their job, still continues to fly commercial, is beyond me.

I hated the hassle of flying commercial even before TSA came into existence. Now, if anyone wants me to visit them across the country, and they can’t wait until I drive there, they better charter a private jet for me.

LegendHasIt on June 27, 2011 at 1:18 PM

Also, another brilliant commenter said something like this “but they allow the Muslims with their diapers to go right through”.

The Israelis are way smarter than the TSA.

Schadenfreude on June 27, 2011 at 1:19 PM

Napolitano: “The instant we stop checking incontinent, 95-year-old women in wheelchairs, Al Qaeda will capitalize!”

Yeah, right. Okay, that wasn’t a Napolitano quote, but by Dan Rather standards, it could be.

Time to resurrect the argument to profile like our friends in Israel.

olesparkie on June 27, 2011 at 1:25 PM

Passengers should have the freedom and authority to pat down and grope any TSA agent at random they want to. A terrorist could certainly be lurking and hiding within the TSA.

If the TSA has nothing to hide, they should have nothing to fear.

JellyToast on June 27, 2011 at 1:25 PM

Look at her, she has terrorists written all over her…looking into her beady eyes, and your vein runs cold, the eyes of a killer…why she is a “wheelchair ninja”, if I ever saw one.
And that ain’t no “C4″…or is it?
And besides, it is illegal to take on any more than 3.4 oz. of liquid, and when they squeezed the diaper, she was in violation.
She should have been thrown in jail…

right2bright on June 27, 2011 at 1:28 PM

Have you heard about the new tampon bomb?

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faraway on June 27, 2011 at 1:29 PM

Remember that this is government by the same set of thinkers that expels a kid for saving another kids life by sharing his inhaler when they are way out on the sports fields. Or that expels an honor student for giving a classmate with menstrual cramps ibuprofen.

They don’t understand the purpose and uses of discernment. It’s not politically correct to follow patterns and review each circumstance on its own because it might create a pattern that offends THEIR sensibilities: “Oh, we’re seeing mostly radical Islamists stopped from boarding, that’s not right! We must stop people equally from all walks of life, even very old ladies with depends of doom!”

PastorJon on June 27, 2011 at 1:29 PM

For those of you who may come in contact with our Ministry of TSA over the 4th of July weekend, I offer the following advice…

“Flatulence-producing foods are typically high in certain polysaccharides (especially oligosaccharides such as inulin) and include beans, lentils, dairy products, onions, garlic, scallions, leeks, radishes, sweet potatoes, cashews, Jerusalem artichokes, oats, wheat, yeast in breads, and other vegetables. Cauliflower, Broccoli, cabbage and other cruciferous vegetables that belong to the Brassica family are commonly reputed to not only increase flatulence, but to increase the pungency of the flatus. In beans, endogenous gases seem to arise from complex oligosaccharide (carbohydrates) that are particularly resistant to digestion by mammals, but which are readily digestible by microorganisms that inhabit the digestive tract. These oligosaccharides pass through the upper intestine largely unchanged, and when these reach the lower intestine, bacteria feed on them, producing copious amounts of flatus.”

… Enjoy your flight!

Seven Percent Solution on June 27, 2011 at 1:30 PM

Is there a Diaper Czar?

faraway on June 27, 2011 at 1:30 PM

As a local who flies out of there monthly… really surprised it happened here, but understand the TSA works in “mysterious ways”

Due to Eglin AFB and Hurlburt AFB nearby + high end tourists… TSA staff are usually pretty on point and seperate the silly from the necessary in screening procedures. Rarely is there more than 20 people going through security at one time – and there is roughly 20 cops/10 TSA for an 8 Gate airport at all times.

Odie1941 on June 27, 2011 at 1:32 PM

and there is roughly 20 cops/10 TSA for an 8 Gate airport at all times.

Odie1941 on June 27, 2011 at 1:32 PM

Sounds like the bureaucracy at the London airports.

Schadenfreude on June 27, 2011 at 1:33 PM

TSA said they were following procedures, they investigated themselves and not only found they did nothing wrong, but are issuing a medal for outstanding service…They have the only operations manual that has this in it:

“It is within policy to______________(fill in blank)__________________

right2bright on June 27, 2011 at 1:34 PM

Sounds like the bureaucracy at the London airports.

Schadenfreude on June 27, 2011 at 1:33 PM

Yes, but at Heathrow all of the security checkers are….wait for it…Muslim

Trafalgar on June 27, 2011 at 1:37 PM

and there is roughly 20 cops/10 TSA for an 8 Gate airport at all times.

Odie1941 on June 27, 2011 at 1:32 PM
Sounds like the bureaucracy at the London airports.

Schadenfreude on June 27, 2011 at 1:33 PM

I first flew there for a HS trip… couldnt believe the amount of paramilitary/dogs, etc… but then again – Muslims were just “coming over to England” as a friendly gesture in 1989…

Odie1941 on June 27, 2011 at 1:39 PM

Time to start airport sh*t-in protests by leaving all soiled diapers on the floors of airports, rather than throwing them away. Then, others report the suspicious packages and let the TSA handle it.

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Christien on June 27, 2011 at 1:47 PM

The sheepele need to vote with their feet and refuse to fly until adults are put in charge of TSA.

And if that means PROFILING – then do it!

GarandFan on June 27, 2011 at 1:48 PM

It’s long past time that we called a halt to random TSA groping sessions and start applying common sense to our screening procedures.

In other words, we need to conduct profiling as the basis for screening, just like Israel’s El Al Airlines does. I can’t remember the last time the IslamoFascist’s successfully conducted a terrorist attack on El Al. El Al uses profiling as the cornerstone of their screening process.

Ann Coulter said it best – it went something like “when all of the 9/11 Islamic Terrorists were male Middle Eastern Islamics, you’re not profiling when you screen for them. You’re giving out a description of the perpetrators.”

CatchAll on June 27, 2011 at 1:48 PM

If I were Jean Weber, CNN would be talking to me from jail this morning.

This is outrageous. And we can thank the leftists and the fact that they’ve bullied the general public into surrendering their common sense all in the name of political correctness for the fact that we all now have to be humiliated at the airport. What is it with TSA and their keen interest in profiling older white women anyway? Is this a butt-covering exercise? I can’t think what else it would be. As Mark Fuhrman once said, you don’t shop for oranges in a hardware store. Use some freaking brain power.

It is high time TSA started screening for behavior and not conducting random searches. To my knowledge, none such searches have stopped an attack yet, but a diplomat from a Muslim country calling up our own State Dept. to warn us that his jihadist son is unhinged and coming to America all goes unheeded.

This is why I no longer fly.

NoLeftTurn on June 27, 2011 at 1:56 PM

Dry run.

/s

Neo-con Artist on June 27, 2011 at 1:58 PM

Parents of babies should remove the soiled diapers of their children and lay them on the scan conveyor, just to ridicule the TSA fools.

Bishop on June 27, 2011 at 1:58 PM

Where’s the ACLU in all this…..oh never mind, it isn’t somebody with a Christmas display or someone who is praying before taking a test! Until the GOP makes this a campaign issue and actually shows some backbone on this nothing will ever change.

flytier on June 27, 2011 at 1:58 PM

Bishop on June 27, 2011 at 1:58 PM

Great idea! And when TSA gets all freaky over the deaky, the parent should just say the child “packed the bag” by himself and it has been with them at all times!

Christien on June 27, 2011 at 2:02 PM

I am extremely grateful that I do not have to fly for business or anything like that. Since this invasive nonsense has begun I have not flown and I will not fly until sensible policies are in place like profiling Muslims. I will now be exploring areas within driving distance for vacations. I cannot support this.

ReneePA on June 27, 2011 at 2:16 PM

As an older man who has to use a cane, I get the distinct impression, on the increasingly rare occasions when I fly, that the TSA storm troopers take a particular delight in demeaning people who are old. They zoom in on the halt, the lame, and the blind, like flies on a horse turd. If you cannot walk without a cane, they make you walk without a cane, even if you have to crawl on your hands and knees through the metal detector. In short, any power corrupts absolutely and brings forth the sadistic tendencies of our TSA stooges.

Dhuka on June 27, 2011 at 2:30 PM

While the TSA was busy humiliating this elderly woman, they were still accepting Washington State Driver’s Licenses as legal I.D. which allows Washington residents to get on planes.

As ILLEGAL Alien Jose Antonio Vargas exposed in his confession in the New York Times last week, Washington State provides Driver’s Licenses to ILLEGAL Aliens.

Early this year, just two weeks before my 30th birthday, I won a small reprieve: I obtained a driver’s license in the state of Washington. The license is valid until 2016. This offered me five more years of acceptable identification — but also five more years of fear, of lying to people I respect and institutions that trusted me, of running away from who I am.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/26/magazine/my-life-as-an-undocumented-immigrant.html?_r=1

If ILLEGAL Alien Jose Antonio Vargas, who did not even live in Washington State was able to get a license from Washington, what would stop actual terrorists from gettting their driver’s licenses in Washington?

Rather than humiliating elderly women, TSA should be systematically closing all possible loopholes that allow ILLEGAL Aliens and terroists to travel in our country.

Until the state of Washington changes its procedures to make it impossible for ILLEGAL Aliens to get Driver’s Licenses, the TSA should require anybody who presents a Washington State Driver’s License as I.D. to provide a second form of I.D. to prove they are in the United States legally.

This will of course be an inconvenience for legal Washington residents, but perhaps it will encourage them to put immediate pressure on their political leaders to reform their licensing procedures and that would actually make us all safer.

wren on June 27, 2011 at 2:30 PM

The government may not infringe on your right to be secure in your person against unreasonable searches. The standard established by the SCOTUS for warrantless personal searches by police requires that the police have an articulable “reasonable suspicion” that the person to be searched has the fruits or implements of a crime or other contraband on their person.

Trafalgar on June 27, 2011 at 12:38 PM

If you opt out of the naked picture taker, THAT is suspicious. Next, they ask you for your permission to search you, which amounts to consent. Of course if you don’t consent then they can detain you and make you miss your flight.

To fight this we need lawyers, and people who are willing to miss their flight and willing to sue.

The news against the TSA is like the government’s willingness to prosocute ONLY the hardest pornography while letting millions of soft crimes slide through. In other words, we only get the news of the kids and the eldery, but not every grope thousands of times a day.

Where are the soldiers who fought for the constitution, out of uniform, stepping up to fight this legaly? Shouldn’t they be even more offended at the TSA than me? The red coats are comming, the redcoats are comming! The ones we fought a revolutions against are here in TSA uniforms.

AnotherOpinion on June 27, 2011 at 2:40 PM

I’m so glad I don’t have the money to fly anymore. I remember back when everybody was fighting about the Patriot Act and getting outraged that people might know what kind of library books you looked at; look at what we’ve sunk too. Republican President..fight the Patriot Act tooth and nail. Democrat President..naked x ray machines..fondling kids..humiliating the elderly..and don’t forget theft of personal property by TSA agents..and we get an occaisional news blurb. Ah, the double standard.

austinnelly on June 27, 2011 at 2:50 PM

“We have reviewed the circumstances involving this screening and determined that our officers acted professionally and according to proper procedure.”

The training for TSA workers must be pretty thorough if they have a whole chapter of procedures on how to accost senior citizens wearing adult diapers.

Wait, it isn’t just senior citizens. Didn’t the mentally handicapped man, that got his toy hammer taken away a couple weeks ago, also wear an adult diaper?

So it’s diapers that the TSA is going after…they must have had the training manual upside-down.

Left Coast Right Mind on June 27, 2011 at 3:40 PM

All that “dangerous” stuff TSA confiscates from passengers is being sold off in government owned stores.
http://www.statesman.com/life/where-have-all-the-snow-globes-gone-to-1549784.html

Just more proof the TSA screenings are a sham.

GrannySunni on June 27, 2011 at 3:44 PM

In order not to ethnically profile, a bit of common sense has to be abandoned.

unclesmrgol on June 27, 2011 at 4:06 PM

Wait, it isn’t just senior citizens. Didn’t the mentally handicapped man, that got his toy hammer taken away a couple weeks ago, also wear an adult diaper?

So it’s diapers that the TSA is going after…they must have had the training manual upside-down.

Left Coast Right Mind on June 27, 2011 at 3:40 PM

What I didn’t understand about them taking away the guy’s toy hammer is that his mother had a spare one in her carry on bag and they let her board the plane with it. What they did to that guy and this elderly woman is despicable.

GrannySunni on June 27, 2011 at 4:22 PM

It’s long past time that we called a halt to random TSA groping sessions and start applying common sense to our screening procedures.

Agreed, but………this is the Federal Government we’re talking about here right? Common sense is strictly verboten!

infidel4life on June 27, 2011 at 4:48 PM

All that “dangerous” stuff TSA confiscates from passengers is being sold off in government owned stores.
http://www.statesman.com/life/where-have-all-the-snow-globes-gone-to-1549784.html

Just more proof the TSA screenings are a sham.

GrannySunni on June 27, 2011 at 3:44 PM

Don’t give up any of your property without breaking it first.

slickwillie2001 on June 27, 2011 at 4:56 PM

Shame on them. SHAME on them. Literally. Shame they’ll never get out.

I repeat my question from earlier: why do the employees actually follow such a ludicrous and plainly wrong policy?

At some point, decent people say NO. We aren’t doing that. Period.

This really is how Nazi Germany happened. Nobody said no.

And in this case, I’m not sure that’s a Godwin’s law violation. It’s a reasonable analogy. When you’re willing to dehumanize people and strip them of basic dignity, when you’re willing to abandon common sense in favor of blind obedience to unthinking social policy … you’ve taken your first steps towards Germany circa 1938.

I don’t want to hear from the bosses. I want to hear from the TSA schmoes on the scene. Why did they do it? Don’t they have grandparents? And children? And any frickin’ decency?

Bah.

Professor Blather on June 27, 2011 at 5:34 PM

GrannySunni on June 27, 2011 at 4:22 PM

Yeah, I seem to remember that bit of the story as well. And in the link you posted:

There are boxes of corkscrews with attached knives (without knives, the implements are legal to carry on in the U.S.)…

So, corkscrews sans knives are permissible? I’m thinking that one of these can do a heckuva lot more damage than one of these.

But I’m no expert.

Left Coast Right Mind on June 27, 2011 at 5:42 PM

Shame on them. SHAME on them. Literally. Shame they’ll never get out.

I repeat my question from earlier: why do the employees actually follow such a ludicrous and plainly wrong policy?

At some point, decent people say NO. We aren’t doing that. Period.

This really is how Nazi Germany happened. Nobody said no.

And in this case, I’m not sure that’s a Godwin’s law violation. It’s a reasonable analogy. When you’re willing to dehumanize people and strip them of basic dignity, when you’re willing to abandon common sense in favor of blind obedience to unthinking social policy … you’ve taken your first steps towards Germany circa 1938.

I don’t want to hear from the bosses. I want to hear from the TSA schmoes on the scene. Why did they do it? Don’t they have grandparents? And children? And any frickin’ decency?

Bah.

Professor Blather on June 27, 2011 at 5:34 PM

When you give someone a badge and tell them that they have unlimited authority, you find out interesting information about that person’s mental state. Many of them unfortunately relish the ability to lord over their fellow citizens, and it appears that is the kind of people that the T&A readily accept into their ranks.

Yes, these are the kind of people that make bad cops and bad soldiers, whether in the SS or the US military or the Denver or Atlanta PD.

On the other hand, we don’t know how many people have quit the T&A. Perhaps some of them wouldn’t take the orders, and understandably are being very quiet now because they fear retribution from the goons.

slickwillie2001 on June 27, 2011 at 6:03 PM

It’s not just the legality of it all- it’s the embarrassment and mortification the government puts its citizens through while illegals waltz along freely giving us the finger and our leaders steal us blind.

MaiDee on June 27, 2011 at 6:36 PM

Profile.

hillbillyjim on June 27, 2011 at 6:56 PM

And in this case, I’m not sure that’s a Godwin’s law violation. It’s a reasonable analogy. When you’re willing to dehumanize people, sexually assault them, and strip them of basic dignity, when you’re willing to abandon common sense in favor of blind obedience to unthinking social policy … you’ve taken your first steps towards Germany circa 1938.

Professor Blather on June 27, 2011 at 5:34 PM

Let’s add what this really is. The only place where such a search is even remotely warranted is a felony arrest where there is reasonable suspicion the person under arrest is in possession of illicit objects. i’m sorry, the desire to board an airplane does not constitute reasonable suspicion,

AZfederalist on June 27, 2011 at 10:14 PM

Don’t give up any of your property without breaking it first.

slickwillie2001 on June 27, 2011 at 4:56 PM

Thanks, that’s great advice I’ll be sure to follow!!!

So, corkscrews sans knives are permissible? I’m thinking that one of these can do a heckuva lot more damage than one of these.

But I’m no expert.

Left Coast Right Mind on June 27, 2011 at 5:42 PM

TSA also allows you to carry on knitting needles, tools and screwdrivers that are 7″ or shorter and other items that could somehow become a weapon just like that corkscrew. Makes no sense to me.

GrannySunni on June 27, 2011 at 11:46 PM

Now they’re trying to say they did not force her to take the diaper off.

Unless she wanted to board the plane. But they had to inspect it or some other BS.

dogsoldier on June 28, 2011 at 12:53 AM

My 15 year old daughter just returned from a trip to Chicago with her high school orchestra. She was preparing to get on a plane with about 50 kids & a few adult chaperones in the El Paso airport when AFTER going through the “naked” scanner, some female TSA screener decided that the lining of her blue jean pocket looked suspicious. My daughter was wearing those snug fitting jegging jeans that are in style, that she could not have hidden a weapon or anything else in if she’d tried to. She showed the screener that it was her pocket linings but was still given the wonderful TSA pat down. She’s 15 for heavens sake, & does not look any older, & was traveling with a bunch of kids!! She was really a trooper about it, but how unnecessary was that? It’s a good thing I wasn’t there, I’m not sure how well I would have taken having some dumb stranger’s hands all over my teenage daughter.

Susanboo on June 28, 2011 at 2:05 AM

Don’t worry, Susanboo, they have someone the same sex as the subject do the patting down…..and of course lesbians would never get their jollies patting down a young girl.

Our government is run by ideologs who are so highly educated that they have educated themselves into idiocy. Especially for people with a Masters or PhD in things such as the social sciences, political science, and even law, I find that M.S. and PhD stands for More $hit and Piling it Higher and Deeper.

Universities these days have a unique ability to educated all common sense out of people until they are highly educated buffoons.

flyfishingdad on June 28, 2011 at 3:07 AM

educate, not educated. I need to prof read my posts BEFORE hitting submit, not after.

flyfishingdad on June 28, 2011 at 3:09 AM

proof, not prof. For someone commenting on the idiocy of some with higher degrees, I am certainly making a lot of dumb mistakes myself. Irony.

flyfishingdad on June 28, 2011 at 3:10 AM

Absolute power corrupts absolutely…

Gohawgs on June 28, 2011 at 6:40 AM

I can see that the TSA Creed will have to be edited to now read: Give me your tired, your poor, your incontinent and huddled messes, yearning to fly from coast to coast freed from any material you desire or need, but that we decide is a risk to you and others safety. Failure to comply means “NO FLY”.

MSGTAS on June 28, 2011 at 9:41 AM

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