Public souring on EPA

posted at 2:40 pm on June 22, 2011 by Jazz Shaw

Some people just couldn’t sell spring water during a drought. Everybody likes the environment, right? What’s not to like? So if you happen to be a government agency specifically tasked with protecting it, that should be an automatic winner. Not so.

While the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has been taking a beating in conservative circles for some time now, that sentiment seems to be spreading to the public. A new poll out from Rasmussen shows that approval ratings for the agency are slipping noticeably.

Protecting the environment is a concept most Americans embrace, but they’re not so sure about the agency set up to handle that mission.

Just 47% of Likely Voters nationwide have a favorable opinion of the Environmental Protection Agency, sometimes known as the EPA. A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that nearly as many, 45%, have an unfavorable view of the regulatory giant.

Those figures include 13% with a Very Favorable opinion of the EPA and 18% with a Very Unfavorable view.

The more interesting figures in this poll come below the top line numbers. A plurality believe that policies enacted by the agency are harmful to the economy. (Gee… ya think?) There is an even larger desire for more accountability to the people via their representatives. 49% feel that “all proposed EPA regulations should be approved by Congress before implementation.”

Somehow I don’t think you’d get a lot of arguments from Congress on that one, either. But one has to wonder about the seeming disconnect on the part of poll respondents. If you want that type of accountability, you’d think that you must have a fair amount of faith in the folks you would have oversee the process, right? So people must be trusting Congress a bit more these days. Well… not so much.

Just 8% Approve of Job Congress Is Doing

Voter approval of Congress’ job performance has now fallen to a near five-year low.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that only eight percent (8%) of Likely U.S. Voters think Congress is doing a good or excellent job. Fifty-two percent (52%) rate Congress’ performance as poor.

Of course, these are the same people who overwhelmingly want Washington to cut spending and reduce the debt, but don’t want them to change entitlement programs in any way. I’ve pretty much given up on being surprised.

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Amen. The EPA makes me want to vomit. Everytime I open up that sewer bill….

Pawlenty, the new Lunesta on June 22, 2011 at 2:43 PM

I blame The Simpson’s Movie.

zmdavid on June 22, 2011 at 2:44 PM

Unconstitutional. Close it down.

Vashta.Nerada on June 22, 2011 at 2:45 PM

EPA = Everything Preventer Agency

Stomping out Jobs, Breaking things that work, and Making life in America miserable.

landlines on June 22, 2011 at 2:49 PM

The EPA should only have power of federally owned lands. It should have no power in the states.

Pawlenty, the new Lunesta on June 22, 2011 at 2:49 PM

Just 47% of Likely Voters nationwide have a favorable opinion of the Environmental Protection Agency, sometimes known as the EPA. A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that nearly as many, 45%, have an unfavorable view of the regulatory giant.

I wonder how these opinions change as you only poll people living in or near the “protected areas”; that is, I wonder if there is even a more negative view of the EPA is more rural areas instead of the more progressive urban centers.

If this were the case, it would not only be ironic, but perhaps show just how unjust the EPA is.

MeatHeadinCA on June 22, 2011 at 2:49 PM

Pawlenty, the new Lunesta on June 22, 2011 at 2:49 PM

Love the handle.

BTW, even though you make a good point, isn’t the Federal Gov’t trying to grab up even more land?

MeatHeadinCA on June 22, 2011 at 2:50 PM

Blame Bush Obama!

Save the Algodones Dunes Beetle!!!

“The beetle’s decline mirrors the decline of natural values at the dunes,” said Monica Bond, CBD biologist. “The Bush roll-backs at the dunes make ESA protection essential now.”

Roy Rogers on June 22, 2011 at 2:50 PM

Bet if you took a poll in Oklahoma and Texas the EPA would be way below Congress as both of our states seem to be in their target zone since Obama took office. It was bad enough before but now it is a lot worse. Don’t think Obama likes our two States. :)

PhiKapMom on June 22, 2011 at 2:51 PM

Just curious — did I miss something? Is Jazz Shaw now a regular contributor on HotAir, like Tina Korbe? Or is he just filling some gaps temporarily? I don’t remember seeing an announcement, as was done for Tina.

Splashman on June 22, 2011 at 2:53 PM

EPA really stands for Enough Politicians Already!

search4truth on June 22, 2011 at 2:54 PM

The public is souring?

It’s a wonder they aren’t after them with pitchforks and torches.

trigon on June 22, 2011 at 2:59 PM

Just curious — did I miss something? Is Jazz Shaw now a regular contributor on HotAir, like Tina Korbe? Or is he just filling some gaps temporarily? I don’t remember seeing an announcement, as was done for Tina.

Splashman on June 22, 2011 at 2:53 PM

Ed is in Israel and not posting with his normal frequency.

stvnscott on June 22, 2011 at 3:01 PM

Just curious — did I miss something? Is Jazz Shaw now a regular contributor on HotAir, like Tina Korbe? Or is he just filling some gaps temporarily? I don’t remember seeing an announcement, as was done for Tina.

Splashman on June 22, 2011 at 2:53 PM

I think Ed is over in Jerusalem at some kind of hoedown. Jazz must be helping to pick up some slack.

trigon on June 22, 2011 at 3:02 PM

The epa is doing just what bho and team wants them to do to take over land, stop drilling, make life unbearable for everyone in most states with regulations. Control is the bottom line with these slugs in the wh!
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letget on June 22, 2011 at 3:05 PM

People are starting to see the environmental movement for what it is. You’ve got goons like Al Gore telling you “stop having children” to curb climate change. It’s getting harder and harder for the left to hide the fact that all the eco stuff is a ruse to control every aspect of people’s lives.

poorrichardsnews on June 22, 2011 at 3:08 PM

stvnscott on June 22, 2011 at 3:01 PM

trigon on June 22, 2011 at 3:02 PM

Okay, thanks. Didn’t realize Ed was still over there. But I suppose nobody goes that far for just a few days.

Splashman on June 22, 2011 at 3:13 PM

This is the same assclown outfit that will prevent the creation of hundreds of jobs by shutting out things like new oil wells and refineries, while saying they are protecting some slimy slug or some bait fish or some annoying fly that just happens to occupy the same region.

This is NOT environmentalism, this IS insanity!

pilamaye on June 22, 2011 at 3:14 PM

The more interesting figures in this poll come below the top line numbers. A plurality believe that policies enacted by the agency are harmful to the economy. (Gee… ya think?)

Of course you can let industry self-regulate, as in China, with very predictable results. But to blame today’s deep recession or unemployment on the EPA or other regulators is pointless. It was Bush who tried to gut the EPA, yet where was the job creation to show for it? Look more closely at countries like Germany and Canada, where environmental regulation is generally much stricter, and you’ll find stronger economies as well. There effect of the EPA on job growth is exaggerated.

If you’ve spent some time in China, your fear of environmental protection will change dramatically.

bayam on June 22, 2011 at 3:16 PM

Just curious — did I miss something? Is Jazz Shaw now a regular contributor on HotAir, like Tina Korbe? Or is he just filling some gaps temporarily? I don’t remember seeing an announcement, as was done for Tina.

Splashman on June 22, 2011 at 2:53 PM
I think Ed is over in Jerusalem at some kind of hoedown. Jazz must be helping to pick up some slack.

trigon on June 22, 2011 at 3:02 PM

I noticed the same thing when Allahpundit was out sick for a few days. Jazz did the QOTD.

Pawlenty, the new Lunesta on June 22, 2011 at 3:16 PM

Love the handle.

BTW, even though you make a good point, isn’t the Federal Gov’t trying to grab up even more land?

MeatHeadinCA on June 22, 2011 at 2:50 PM

Good point. Lets just get rid of them altogether!

Pawlenty, the new Lunesta on June 22, 2011 at 3:17 PM

If 47% do not support the EPA’s overreach leading to the
ruination of the fishing industry, the oil industry,
the farming industry, etc. then the 53% who do support them
don’t know who the heck the are, what EPA stands for, etc.

Slowly but surely the internet will do the job the
schools haven’t done – educate the population.

Amjean on June 22, 2011 at 3:17 PM

EPA needs to go…

Wade on June 22, 2011 at 3:18 PM

I swear, these enviro-nuts sound like all we have to do is scrounge up some di-lithium crystals and all of our energy needs will be met, and without pollution.

“Scotty…I need warp drive in 3 minutes or we’re all dead. The EPA keeps passing new regulations. Kirk out”

BobMbx on June 22, 2011 at 3:19 PM

49% feel that “all proposed EPA regulations should be approved by Congress before implementation.”
Somehow I don’t think you’d get a lot of arguments from Congress on that one, either.

Actually, you would get a huge argument from Congress on that one. They want the feel good activity of protecting the environment, they do not want the responsibility for factually voting for specific regulations. It is why we have the monstrous regulatory state we currently have, no one wants responsibility, so they pass open ended laws where the executive gets to enact the factual regulations and decide what they are.

astonerii on June 22, 2011 at 3:20 PM

….the farming industry, etc. then the 53% who do support them
don’t know who the heck the are, what EPA stands for, etc.

Amjean on June 22, 2011 at 3:17 PM

That 53% is made up of city dwellers who don’t have jobs. They’ll be changing their minds once they can’t re-charge their I-Phones or laptops.

BobMbx on June 22, 2011 at 3:21 PM

Of course you can let industry self-regulate, as in China, with very predictable results. But to blame today’s deep recession or unemployment on the EPA or other regulators is pointless. It was Bush who tried to gut the EPA, yet where was the job creation to show for it? Look more closely at countries like Germany and Canada, where environmental regulation is generally much stricter, and you’ll find stronger economies as well. There effect of the EPA on job growth is exaggerated.

If you’ve spent some time in China, your fear of environmental protection will change dramatically.

bayam on June 22, 2011 at 3:16 PM

Recipient of clueless comment of the day.

Congrats.

darwin on June 22, 2011 at 3:21 PM

No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence level of the average voter.

GarandFan on June 22, 2011 at 3:21 PM

A thorough housecleaning is needed at EPA, but unfortunately our insane civil service laws won’t allow it. But the next President can send them a message by appointing conservatives to all the available positions.

One thing that needs to be done right away is amending the Endangered Species Act. Half the California farmers are being squeezed for water to save some useless tiny fish that has no benefit to God or Man or even other fishes. We’ve stopped progress for kangaroo rats, and even insects.

If we are going to keep the ESA, it should be clarified that it covers only cute, cuddly animals and not bugs and rodents.

Adjoran on June 22, 2011 at 3:21 PM

The EPA could be eliminated today, and be replaced by a real, effective watchdog media. What company wants the 60 minutes treatment?

Unfortunately, most of our current media doesn’t like to do that sort of digging.

hawksruleva on June 22, 2011 at 3:23 PM

There is an even larger desire for more accountability to the people via their representatives.

Then congress should stop making open-ended laws for the executive departments to fill in the blanks, ie. write the regs, law. Maybe that would raise their standing.

cartooner on June 22, 2011 at 3:25 PM

People are starting to see the environmental movement for what it is. You’ve got goons like Al Gore telling you “stop having children” to curb climate change. It’s getting harder and harder for the left to hide the fact that all the eco stuff is a ruse to control every aspect of people’s lives.

poorrichardsnews on June 22, 2011 at 3:08 PM

It will be interesting to witness the fallout of the approaching solar minimum. The enviro-wackos will undoubtedly try to incorporate it into their narrative, perhaps by stating that the resultant “little ice age” wouldn’t be nearly as bad if not for human activity. I’m hopeful that these extreme rhetorical gyrations will finally be seen for what they are, but as usual the liberal media will be in lockstep with power-hungry politicians, so I can’t be terribly optimistic.

Splashman on June 22, 2011 at 3:26 PM

Look more closely at countries like Germany and Canada, where environmental regulation is generally much stricter, and you’ll find stronger economies as well. There effect of the EPA on job growth is exaggerated.

If you’ve spent some time in China, your fear of environmental protection will change dramatically.

bayam on June 22, 2011 at 3:16 PM

And how much of the material consumed by Germany and Canada are manufactured there? Its easy to say a country has a better environmental policy when they pass on the pollution caused by their consumption to other countries. Oh, and just how strong is the Canadian economy? It is best described in terms of a radar side-lobe from the US. If the US economy contracts, the Canadian economy may well disappear.

BTW, all these countries with strict eco rules import all their stuff from China. So China’s pollution belongs to the countries who buy what China manufactures.

Another BTW. O’Bama thinks ruling China would be easier than being POTUS. I wonder why.

BobMbx on June 22, 2011 at 3:28 PM

Come on … is anything less popular than the US Congress?

j_galt on June 22, 2011 at 3:30 PM

If 47% do not support the EPA’s overreach leading to the
ruination of the fishing industry, the oil industry,

yes, that really worked well, those good old days before fisheries management

http://marcsala.blogspot.com/2009/02/great-california-sardine-boom-and-bust.html

Recipient of clueless comment of the day.
Congrats.

Please, share your China experiences with the rest of us. I guess you had a different take that most people do, or maybe you spent most of your time in Baodiing…

bayam on June 22, 2011 at 3:31 PM

Thank the EPA and their mindless bureaucrats for banning the the only bedbug pesticide that was effective.

I believe we need separation of science and state. For too long now corrupt science has worked in cahoots with corrupt bureaucrats to gain power and wealth while taking away liberty.

darwin on June 22, 2011 at 3:32 PM

Please, share your China experiences with the rest of us. I guess you had a different take that most people do, or maybe you spent most of your time in Baodiing…

bayam on June 22, 2011 at 3:31 PM

I wasn’t referring to China. I was referring to your comment that the mind boggling maze of EPA regulations doesn’t affect business. As I type their new CO2 regs while literally shut down many coal power plants.

The EPA should be nothing more than an advisory agency.

darwin on June 22, 2011 at 3:36 PM

The left should be constantly reminded that the EPA is part of Dick Nixon’s legacy.

Akzed on June 22, 2011 at 3:36 PM

Sorry, I meant to say Richard Nixon!

Akzed on June 22, 2011 at 3:36 PM

But to blame today’s deep recession or unemployment on the EPA or other regulators is pointless.

BS.

Over-regulation is strangling businesses.

Crawford on June 22, 2011 at 3:41 PM

The mask is coming off.

The public is slowly but surely learning that the EPA is a bloated bureaucracy that has been and is being used as a tool to advance a radical liberal political agenda.

The EPA is no friend of the environment or anything American. Once their regulatory bullshit has bankrupted us and turned the middle class into a fond memory, the educated idiots who always fall in line with the latest enviro-scam will be bleating a different tune.

By then, however, it will have been too late.

This shit has to be defeated now.

hillbillyjim on June 22, 2011 at 3:49 PM

Every single Republican, conservative, libertarian non-communist candidate for the House, Senate or Presidency should be illustrating LOUDLY 24-7 what this agency (among others) is doing to our economy.

For the love of God, candidates, the press is never gonna point it out, get with the program and DENOUNCE the EPA, in every appearance, do a Rand frickin’ Paul on ‘em publicly, speak out!!!!

Tim Zank on June 22, 2011 at 3:52 PM

Our courts have failed us as well. There is no good reason to have allowed an agency under the direction of the executive branch to use regulation to the extent of replacing legislation to change the way our country operates. This is unconstitutional to the nth degree.

hillbillyjim on June 22, 2011 at 3:55 PM

This shit has to be defeated now.

hillbillyjim on June 22, 2011 at 3:49 PM

The quickest way is for states to just ignore everything coming from the desk of Lisa Jackson.

darwin on June 22, 2011 at 3:55 PM

The quickest way is for states to just ignore everything coming from the desk of Lisa Jackson.

darwin on June 22, 2011 at 3:55 PM

Looks like Texas may lead the charge in the EPA battle, and not by choice necessarily…but somebody has stop this and soon, we’re choking.

Tim Zank on June 22, 2011 at 3:59 PM

It’s the same story with all of the alphabet-soup federal agencies; agencies such as EPA, DOE, DOI, OSHA, NRC, DHHS, DHS,… just to scratch the surface.

They are all monstrous exaggerations of what they were originally intended to be, with powers that have become monstrous as well.

hillbillyjim on June 22, 2011 at 4:03 PM

Tim Zank on June 22, 2011 at 3:52 PM

We need a new, younger, less entrenched Republican GOP.

Roy Rogers on June 22, 2011 at 4:04 PM

They are all monstrous exaggerations of what they were originally intended to be, with powers that have become monstrous as well.

hillbillyjim on June 22, 2011 at 4:03 PM

Especially NASA. A once proud agency that showcased American exceptionalism. It’s now been relegated to pimping enviro-Marxism and making Muslims feel good.

Another agency is NOAA. Overtaken by radicals and climate fabricators … they now spend their days destroying data and making up new data to fit their climate catastrophe theories.

darwin on June 22, 2011 at 4:09 PM

Q: Describe the federal government in two words or less.

A: Run amok.

hillbillyjim on June 22, 2011 at 4:18 PM

EPA – scr3wing America since 1970. Yeah it was signed by Nixon. Recall how that worked?
And how awful the smog was in Wake Co. (Raleigh) NC when tailpipe inspections were required c. 1974.

Caststeel on June 22, 2011 at 4:24 PM

Of course you can let industry self-regulate, as in China, with very predictable results.

bayam on June 22, 2011 at 3:16 PM

I’ve forgotten, but in communist China, who is responsible for much of the pollution-causing industry again?

Midas on June 22, 2011 at 4:24 PM

It was Bush who tried to gut the EPA, yet where was the job creation to show for it?

This is bullshit on every level. I’m not even going to bother to fisk your nonsensical post.

Buh bye, Obayuma.

hillbillyjim on June 22, 2011 at 4:31 PM

The progs love the Canada example, and are also using it as an example of a high union membership success story, but none of those go to the reasons for Canada’s strong economy.

Canada is a model for the rest of the world today because they radically restructured their federal budgets a few years ago, and they have always had a high bar for residential mortgage qualification. Had the USA retained a significant down payment for mortgages and not forced banks to make bad loans, we would have been spared the financial collapse of 2008.

slickwillie2001 on June 22, 2011 at 4:42 PM

The EPA had accomplished about 99.5% of everything that needed to be done environmentally by 1990. Since then, like all bureaucracies it has continued on with unnecessary activities just to seemingly justify its existence. What would be useful would be to reset all EPA regulations to where they were about twenty years ago and allow the agency to only enforce those existing regulations. It could not propose or establish anything new. The extremely few new regulations that might be needed would have to come direct from Congress. EPA would be a much, much smaller agency.

mjzman on June 22, 2011 at 4:59 PM

The progs don’t like to discuss the Soviet Union, a socialist worker’s paradise that they pine for, because the SU was and remains an environmental disaster zone. How can that be?

slickwillie2001 on June 22, 2011 at 5:25 PM

The public is souring?

It’s a wonder they aren’t after them with pitchforks and torches.

trigon on June 22, 2011 at 2:59 PM

When not quieting babies your fearless messiah stands between those with pitchforks and them without!

jdkchem on June 22, 2011 at 5:38 PM

You cannot truly understand the enormous impact this fascist organization has unless you have personally dealt with them. They are rude, overbearing 30 year in the same undeservedly high paying job, ass holes! You wonder why gas is $4/gallon. Don’t blame the Saudis, or Big Oil, blame the EPA, the NJDEP, the DOT, PHMSA, OSHA, on and on and on. The cost of complying with all these regulations is astronomical. They change on a whim; constantly. Some brain dead liberal (which is all that would work at such a place) comes up with some bright idea and poof, it’s a new regulation (NOT A LAW mind you), despite the economic impact (oh, great idea, let’s just tell em you have to keep your cranes, lifts, etc 20 ft from all wires no problem..yeah, if you have no gd idea wether it’s a problem or not, it sounds like a good idea! let’s make it a new reg). It cost’s a company (except NASCAR) $50,000 just to clean up a half gallon of gas spilled on the ground. It’s out of control.

RonD504 on June 22, 2011 at 5:41 PM

There is an even larger desire for more accountability to the people via their representatives. 49% feel that “all proposed EPA regulations should be approved by Congress before implementation.”

I wonder if this has something to do with EPA “rules” on carbon dioxide emissions that were imposed on power plants and oil refineries WITHOUT Congressional approval (couldn’t pass a 59D/41R Senate).

Why should one unelected EPA Administrator be allowed to flout the will of 535 elected members of Congress, in whom “ALL legislative power is vested” by the Constitution?

Power to the People. Electoral power and electric power!

Steve Z on June 22, 2011 at 5:48 PM

It was Bush who tried to gut the EPA, yet where was the job creation to show for it?

Huh? In 2005, when Bush was President, four Cat 5 hurricanes (including Katrina) blew through an area of the Gulf of Mexico containing over 3,000 offshore drilling rigs, and NOT ONE of them leaked.

The BP well that blew in 2010 (in calm weather) was approved for drilling in April 2009, and received safety awards BY THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION. After the spill, Obama, in typical knee-jerk fashion, closed down ALL drilling in the Gulf, even by companies who had never spilled any oil.

Then Governor Bobby Jindal (R-LA) was trying to build sand bars between barrier islands to protect his state’s coastal marshlands and wading birds from the oil spill, and the EPA blocked him. For the EPA, forget about protecting living creatures in the marshlands–dead sand is more precious!

Then, to protect the delta smelt (whatever that is), no more water can be sent to California’s fertile Central Valley, and all those rich farms are turned into a new Dust Bowl.

Ain’t these EPA geniuses brilliant? /sarc

Steve Z on June 22, 2011 at 6:11 PM

The BP well that blew in 2010 (in calm weather) was approved for drilling in April 2009, and received safety awards BY THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION. After the spill, Obama, in typical knee-jerk fashion, closed down ALL drilling in the Gulf, even by companies who had never spilled any oil.

Steve Z on June 22, 2011 at 6:11 PM

AND Obowma’s representative APPROVED or waived the well blowout preventer leak test. The BOP failure was the root cause of failure in preventing the oil spill in the gulf.

On another note, in California, water injection is used to supplement oil production to replace the removed barrels of oil and to prevent land subsidence. The EPA and California regulators are preventing permits to drill more injection wells preventing further increases in oil production.

dthorny on June 22, 2011 at 6:42 PM

Environmentalists are giving the environment a bad name.

Slowburn on June 22, 2011 at 7:13 PM

So much for clean energy. Sorry about that Obama Funemployment Fellowship, solar panel workers.

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/business/s_743260.html

Philly on June 22, 2011 at 8:46 PM

EPA = PBS.

Coronagold on June 22, 2011 at 10:14 PM

creating anxiety by creating carbon guilt can be cleared up by purchasing carbon indulgences.

seven on June 23, 2011 at 9:44 AM