McCain and Kerry: Together again, on Libya

posted at 12:00 pm on June 22, 2011 by Jazz Shaw

John McCain wants you to know that he’s had enough of your isolationist arguments lacking in historical knowledge and he plans to do something about it. And he’s enlisted the unlikely support of John Kerry, of all people.

Sens. John McCain and John Kerry introduced a resolution Tuesday that would give President Barack Obama the green light to continue limited military operations in Libya.

The language of the proposal has more teeth than the “sense of the Senate” resolution McCain and Kerry rolled out last month, which was merely a symbolic gesture backing the Libya effort. The latest plan would authorize U.S. operations in Libya but expires after one year and would make clear that the Senate agrees there is no need or desire to put boots on the ground in the North African nation.

The cable talking heads are already depicting this as a sign that McCain is “supporting the President” on his decisions regarding Libya, but the senator begs to differ.

“The administration’s disregard for the elected representatives of the American people on this matter has been troubling and counterproductive,” said McCain, Obama’s 2008 rival in the presidential race. “And the unfortunate result of this failure of leadership is plain to see in the full-scale revolt against the administration’s Libya policy that has occurred in the House of Representatives.”

While I may not agree with the final conclusion, it’s hard to criticize McCain’s logic on this. In his view, toppling Gaddafi is an admirable goal and that’s not going to happen without continued military pressure from the international community. However, his characterization that the dictator’s fall is “only a matter of time” seems a bit more dodgy. If, by “time” you mean some point between now and when Gaddafi eventually dies, then sure. But given the current stalemate in Libya and the dictator’s knowledge that we’re not going to put any “boots on the ground” in his nation, that could be a long time coming.

Perhaps more surprising is Kerry signing on to the deal. Forgetting for the moment his “reporting for duty” appearance in August of 2004, he’s been something of a reluctant warrior. His history of opposition to various conflicts, including Iraq, would suggest that he might have found a third war in Libya rather distasteful. Unless he’s just doing it to show support for Obama? Hard to say.

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Ghengis Kahn rides again

faraway on June 22, 2011 at 12:01 PM

“Genghis Khan” – opinion of American troops by Kerry

Oil Can on June 22, 2011 at 12:03 PM

Days or weeks.

Is McRino taking advice on how to be cool from his daughter now?

walkingboss on June 22, 2011 at 12:04 PM

The real problem here is that free citizens put these destroyers of America into positions of power.

I should use “free citizens” in the past tense, as in, once free citizens….

Don L on June 22, 2011 at 12:06 PM

Forgetting for the moment his “reporting for duty” appearance in August of 2004, he’s been something of a reluctant warrior.

Go Waffles.

shick on June 22, 2011 at 12:08 PM

If I were in either chamber, my vote would depend on Obama laying out what we were doing in Libya and what conditions would signal a victory.

If he can’t or won’t lay that out, then there’s no reason for us to be there.

teke184 on June 22, 2011 at 12:08 PM

Johns are for flushing.

Patrick S on June 22, 2011 at 12:09 PM

They said if I voted for Obama, I could end up with a progressive in the White House who loves carbon taxes, unconditional amnesty and sidling up to prominent America-hating Democrats… AND THEY WERE RIGHT!!!!

The Mega Independent on June 22, 2011 at 12:09 PM

Flush the johns!

cmsinaz on June 22, 2011 at 12:09 PM

Water seeks its own level. McCain tends to drift towards the Dem side of the aisle all too often.

Disengagement is not isolationism.

McCain, you are on record from 2009 on of “engaging” with Qadaffi. Are you now ceding national interest to the “international community” of the Arab League and the UN to justify your hawkishness?

onlineanalyst on June 22, 2011 at 12:10 PM

Perhaps more surprising is Kerry signing on to the deal. Forgetting for the moment his “reporting for duty” appearance in August of 2004, he’s been something of a reluctant warrior.

Halp uS j0hN KarRy w3 R stuk eN IraK Lib Yuh

ted c on June 22, 2011 at 12:10 PM

I thought McCain was supposed to loathe Barky. Why is he giving him cover on Libya?

Cicero43 on June 22, 2011 at 12:11 PM

Sick to death of both of these wastes of oxygen.

Be gone, ye bastages!

Midas on June 22, 2011 at 12:12 PM

Halp uS j0hN KarRy w3 R stuk eN IraK Lib Yuh

ted c on June 22, 2011 at 12:10 PM

ROFLMAO!!!

Roy Rogers on June 22, 2011 at 12:12 PM

Nothing is sacred…. both of them are liars and typical opportunists. This proves it.

ultracon on June 22, 2011 at 12:13 PM

Perhaps more surprising is Kerry signing on to the deal.

I doubt if Kerry knows what he’s going to do from day to day. He doesn’t have any sincere beliefs except to do what’s good for himself.

Vince on June 22, 2011 at 12:14 PM

So McCain is doing what he always does – tries to have it both ways?

He puts forth his resolution stating he supports the operation (and by extension, Obama) but then releases a statement that Obama is wrong for not working with Congress before going into Libya.

catmman on June 22, 2011 at 12:14 PM

Why does anyone respect politicians? They all lie. They all act for their own self interest. They all leech off the people.

j_galt on June 22, 2011 at 12:15 PM

I thought McCain was supposed to loathe Barky. Why is he giving him cover on Libya?

Cicero43 on June 22, 2011 at 12:11 PM

John McCain practically campaigned for Obama in 2008.

“Don’t worry everybody, Obama will be a wonderful President.”

tetriskid on June 22, 2011 at 12:16 PM

Go Waffles.

shick on June 22, 2011 at 12:08 PM

Until he..”was for it before he was against it!”

belad on June 22, 2011 at 12:17 PM

Kerry will change his opinion on this before it’s over, just like on every other war.

zmdavid on June 22, 2011 at 12:18 PM

Cue “The Patty Duke Show” theme song.

Hening on June 22, 2011 at 12:26 PM

Let’s just use a C-130, load ole’ Meggy in the back, and ship her over there. They’ll be begging for peace just to get her to leave!

search4truth on June 22, 2011 at 12:39 PM

McPain and Botox Rex The Ketchup King!

2 prime reasons why we seriously need term limitation in the Senate!

pilamaye on June 22, 2011 at 12:40 PM

It is our unwillingness to put boots on the ground which emboldens our enemies to continue the fight.

Seriously, what motivation does the enemy have to voluntarily stop fighting when the enemy is unwilling to send soldiers onto the battle field to fight back?

Yeah, we can choose not to fight them, but we can’t force them to stop fighting us just because we don’t want to fight.

Lawrence on June 22, 2011 at 12:43 PM

McCain and Graham are 2 of the 3 most disgusting people on this planet. Do I really have to ID #3?

Mirimichi on June 22, 2011 at 12:43 PM

Unless he’s just doing it to show support for Obama? Hard to say.

You’re kidding … right?

Jaibones on June 22, 2011 at 12:48 PM

My initial impression of the war in Libya was that it was a distraction from cutting spending. That’s what people were talking about before Libya, and my impression at the time was that the Republican establishment was probably as grateful for the distraction as the Democrats. So far it seems to have worked pretty good for them.

FloatingRock on June 22, 2011 at 12:49 PM

And he’s enlisted the unlikely support of John Kerry, of all people.

Two incontinent and unremarkable gigolos!

Schadenfreude on June 22, 2011 at 12:52 PM

empty suit, n. see Kerry, John F., Sen.

MassVictim on June 22, 2011 at 1:09 PM

Okay all, It’s time to go clean the Johns from the crap that has been left in it!. :)

hawkman on June 22, 2011 at 1:13 PM

Sick to death of both of these wastes of oxygen.

Be gone, ye bastages!

Midas on June 22, 2011 at 12:12 PM

THIS! Midas is wise.

Tim Zank on June 22, 2011 at 1:21 PM

Until he..”was for it before he was against it!”

belad on June 22, 2011 at 12:17 PM

He’s for or against hostilities/non-hostilities depending on how it benefits himself.

There are few politicians I like less than John Kerry.

Actually none. I like him less than Obama.

shick on June 22, 2011 at 1:23 PM

Why the long face, Thurston?

BTW it was nice to see longtime Jeanne-Claude Kerri tormentor Howie Carr on O’Really last night. Sadly he wasn’t there to talk about Horse Face, but to chat with Bill about Boston’s legendary gangster Whitey Bulger.

Del Dolemonte on June 22, 2011 at 2:46 PM

Monsieur Jeanne-Claude Kerri must have been aching to show off his latest yacht accessories to Senator Illegal Amnesty.

Roy Rogers on June 22, 2011 at 3:02 PM

The redefinition of words is a common tactic of ALL PROGRESSIVES.

John McCain has redefined ISOLATIONIST to include people that do not want to get involved in CIVIL WARS.

Is there a reason to be surprised?

Freddy on June 22, 2011 at 3:28 PM

Are they in Libya or Cambodia? Either way I bet they have suites in the ‘Hanoi Hilton’ for their stay. While they are their they will inspect the heroic Libyan rebels’ Ghengis Khan Brigades and then meet for high level diplomatic discussions with Geo. Washington Mustafa, Thomas Jefferson Ali and John Adams Khomenei.

I’ll criticize McCain’s logic. Khadaffi was helping us since 9/11. Just last year McCain was paling around with the guy. Now when we are already overextended, the troops are worn down, we are broke and ‘democracy’ is breaking out next door for the Muslim Brotherhood and we know that the rebels are staffed with terrorists intent on killing us just like Kadaffi…. this is not the time to go mucking around in Libya. But, it is just like McCain to cozy up to a guy and then want to do him in. I guess Mac thinks Kadaffi is a Republican.

JimP on June 22, 2011 at 3:30 PM

McLame; change parties already.

Slowburn on June 22, 2011 at 7:25 PM

McCain is simply being McCain – the Maverick! As for Kerry, he is angling for the Secretary of State spot after Hillary leaves.

TheRightMan on June 22, 2011 at 8:36 PM