Immigration debate heats up over McCain’s fiery remarks

posted at 6:40 pm on June 21, 2011 by Tina Korbe

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) this weekend linked the fires that have raged across the Southwest in recent weeks to another hot issue — illegal immigration. The senator’s straightforward remarks — he said undocumented immigrants have been known to intentionally start such fires — have since drawn both support and censure, but the former presidential candidate hasn’t revised a word of them.

Appearing at a weekend news conference, Mr. McCain said that illegal immigrants “have set fires because they wanted to signal others …. and they have set fires because they wanted to divert law enforcement agencies.”

On Tuesday, Mr. McCain said in an interview on NBC’s “Today” show he was “puzzled” by the firestorm that has erupted after his remarks.

“We know that people who come across our border illegally … that these fires are sometimes, some of them, caused by this,” he said. Mr. McCain added, “I’m puzzled … that there should be any controversy.” He said he was merely repeating information he’d been given during a briefing with federal officials, including the U.S. Forest Service, before he appeared at the news conference.

Critics of McCain’s comments, including the Phoenix-based Hispanic civil rights group Somos America and Rep. Raul Grijalva (D-Ariz.), claim he’s making a scapegoat of illegal immigrants, but Arizona Republicans Sen. John Kyl and Rep. Paul Gosar defended McCain, saying they, too, had received information to suggest undocumented workers have started such fires in the past and might even have had something to do with the most recent sequence.

Officials have linked three recent fires in Arizona to human activity, but it’s not clear whether a connection exists between the fires and immigrants in the country illegally.

Either way, the fuss reflects just how touchy the issue of illegal immigration has become. States across the country, from Oklahoma to Alabama, have taken steps this spring to secure their borders and Georgia’s set to become the next battleground.

McCain cited border security as a top priority in his recent comments — and, indeed, increased border security would render moot this debate about whether any of those who cross the border illegally ever intentionally ignite wildfires.

“There is substantial evidence that some of these fires have been caused by people who have crossed our border illegally,” McCain said. “The answer to that part of the problem is to get a secure border.”

That’s what the American people want, as well. According to a poll released yesterday by Rasmussen Reports, 64 percent of likely U.S. voters say border security should be the top priority when it comes to immigration policy.

That’s not to say Americans don’t support immigration: The same poll shows 61 percent of those likely voters favor a welcoming immigration policy. That is, the majority believes the goal of U.S. immigration policy should be only to keep out national security threats, criminals and those who come here to live off our welfare system. Beyond that, all immigrants should be welcome.

McCain’s remarks make a scapegoat of undocumented workers only if he made them up. If the comments were rooted in credible information, which all indications suggest they were, then they were a responsible mention of yet another way a breakdown in border security leaves states vulnerable to criminals. I believe strongly that it’s possible and indeed necessary to talk about the negative aspects of illegal immigration — the threat it poses to the rule of law, the security risks of a weak border — while still respecting the personhood of immigrants, many of whom have found themselves one-time rule-breakers who now live in a shadowland of uncertainty themselves. The American people have the formula exactly right: Increased border security + a generally welcoming immigration policy = the right balance to strike.

 


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Why do you insist on using the liberal term of “undocumented workers”? They are illegal aliens.

angryed on June 21, 2011 at 6:43 PM

So this week illegal immigration is a bad thing. What will it be expedient for you to believe next week Senator McCain?

Tommy_G on June 21, 2011 at 6:43 PM

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.)

Tina, you don’t have to call him that. I prefer Head Maverick McCain (Old Man from AZ)

MeatHeadinCA on June 21, 2011 at 6:44 PM

Maverick!..:)

Dire Straits on June 21, 2011 at 6:44 PM

And, adding to the controversy, we are reminded about Perry’s signing of a DREAM Act in Texas.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2011/jun/19/picket-does-gop-want-perrys-dream-act-too/

knob on June 21, 2011 at 6:44 PM

On Tuesday, Mr. McCain said in an interview on NBC’s “Today” show he was “puzzled” by the firestorm that has erupted after his remarks.

IDK… sounds a little nativist to me.

MeatHeadinCA on June 21, 2011 at 6:45 PM

Why do you insist on using the liberal term of “undocumented workers”? They are illegal aliens.

angryed on June 21, 2011 at 6:43 PM

Seconded.

Sugarbuzz on June 21, 2011 at 6:45 PM

McCain’s credibility on anything having to do with immigration is non-existant.

catmman on June 21, 2011 at 6:47 PM

“We know that people who come across our border illegally … that these fires are sometimes, some of them, caused by this,” he said. Mr. McCain added, “I’m puzzled … that there should be any controversy.”

I am puzzled the Senator from Arizona has done nothing to stem illegal immigration in his time as a U.S. Senator from a border state.

Senator Amnesty should STFU and go home. Leave the job to someone who will do the job.

Roy Rogers on June 21, 2011 at 6:47 PM

the majority believes the goal of U.S. immigration policy should be only to keep out national security threats, criminals and those who come here to live off our welfare system. Beyond that, all immigrants should be welcome.

This is what I want!

IowaWoman on June 21, 2011 at 6:47 PM

Why do you insist on using the liberal term of “undocumented workers”? They are illegal aliens.

angryed on June 21, 2011 at 6:43 PM

Seconded.

Sugarbuzz on June 21, 2011 at 6:45 PM

Third.

INC on June 21, 2011 at 6:47 PM

Of course it isn’t the illegals.

Its pizzed off TEA Partiers.

Der!

catmman on June 21, 2011 at 6:48 PM

MeatHeadinCA on June 21, 2011 at 6:44 PM

Or as AP nicknamed him The Artist Formerly Known As Maverick (TAFKAM) back in his primary runup when he needed to pretend he wasn’t the treacherous, backstabbing, bete noir of the GOP, but really a conservative so he’d get the GOP nomination.

It’s hard to believe Mac could be at the center of a controversy./sarc

JimP on June 21, 2011 at 6:48 PM

You must be a Huntsman fan.

Bishop on June 21, 2011 at 6:48 PM

On Tuesday, Mr. McCain said in an interview on NBC’s “Today” show he was “puzzled” by the firestorm that has erupted after his remarks.

IDK… sounds a little nativist to me.

MeatHeadinCA on June 21, 2011 at 6:45 PM

Sounds like the onset of Alzheimer’s to me.

Knucklehead on June 21, 2011 at 6:48 PM

angryed on June 21, 2011 at 6:43 PM

I prefer the label “moving targets”. ;-}

(Yeah, yeah, I know…)

Uncle Sams Nephew on June 21, 2011 at 6:48 PM

McCain is a tool

IowaWoman on June 21, 2011 at 6:48 PM

what? all immigrants? what? Does America with a population of 300+ million need 100,000 new citizens a month?

joeindc44 on June 21, 2011 at 6:49 PM

That is, the majority believes the goal of U.S. immigration policy should be only to keep out national security threats, criminals and those who come here to live off our welfare system. Beyond that, all immigrants should be welcome.

Are you kidding? American’s think we should let most of the worlds population move to America if they want to?

FloatingRock on June 21, 2011 at 6:49 PM

Mac is setting the stage for 2012.

Bishop on June 21, 2011 at 6:49 PM

Why do you insist on using the liberal term of “undocumented workers”? They are illegal aliens.

angryed on June 21, 2011 at 6:43 PM

Recent journalism degree. ;)

malclave on June 21, 2011 at 6:49 PM

Only immigrants who come here legally should be welcome.

Rose on June 21, 2011 at 6:50 PM

while still respecting the personhood of immigrants, many of whom have found themselves one-time rule-breakers who now live in a shadowland of uncertainty themselves.

Yeah but that one time rule the broke was crossing the border illegally. What in heck will they do next that is a one time thing?

Vince on June 21, 2011 at 6:51 PM

He has a valid point, and Michelle Malkin has reported numerous times on the litter they leave as well.

SouthernGent on June 21, 2011 at 6:51 PM

Has six years gone by already?

Cicero43 on June 21, 2011 at 6:51 PM

I believe strongly that it’s possible and indeed necessary to talk about the negative aspects of illegal immigration — the threat it poses to the rule of law, the security risks of a weak border — while still respecting the personhood of immigrants, many of whom have found themselves one-time rule-breakers who now live in a shadowland of uncertainty themselves.

Tina, this is squish talk. They have broken the law. Personhood has nothing to do with that fact. What is this “shadowland of uncertainty”? It’s fairly clear what the word “illegal” means.

INC on June 21, 2011 at 6:52 PM

John McCain Defends Amnesty & Open Borders Juan Hernandez

And you wonder why he lost???

Roy Rogers on June 21, 2011 at 6:52 PM

Come on, McCain. Everyone knows the fires started because of global warming. Melting glaciers and excess carbon and whatever. Ask your daughter, she’ll set you straight…

joejm65 on June 21, 2011 at 6:52 PM

Respectfully Sir,

Just because you lost five aircraft doesn’t mean I have to support you.

Semper Fi,
USMC Retired

crash72 on June 21, 2011 at 6:52 PM

Or as AP nicknamed him The Artist Formerly Known As Maverick (TAFKAM) back in his primary runup when he needed to pretend he wasn’t the treacherous, backstabbing, bete noir of the GOP, but really a conservative so he’d get the GOP nomination.

It’s hard to believe Mac could be at the center of a controversy./sarc

JimP on June 21, 2011 at 6:48 PM

HA! That’s great. OK, Tina. Better name ^

MeatHeadinCA on June 21, 2011 at 6:52 PM

McCain is a tool but on this he is right. There have been numerous fires “caused” by illegal aliens. Not to mention the trash they leave behind. Did I mention the robberies of those who’s land they trespass on?I live in Ca. trust me for once McCain was right.

sandee on June 21, 2011 at 6:53 PM

Sounds like the onset of Alzheimer’s to me.

Knucklehead on June 21, 2011 at 6:48 PM

I wouldn’t be surprised. I wonder if MeggyMac will claim he was incapable of being Senator after he passes… Nawww

MeatHeadinCA on June 21, 2011 at 6:53 PM

Illegals…starting wildfires Americans refuse to start?

coldwarrior on June 21, 2011 at 6:54 PM

Illegals…starting wildfires Americans refuse to start?

coldwarrior on June 21, 2011 at 6:54 PM

ROFL!..:)

PS..I’m going to nominate this for thread winner!..:)

Dire Straits on June 21, 2011 at 6:56 PM

I wonder if MeggyMac will claim he was incapable of being Senator after he passes… Nawww

MeatHeadinCA on June 21, 2011 at 6:53 PM

If it sells books and get’s her mug all over the boob tube, she will.

Knucklehead on June 21, 2011 at 6:56 PM

And I forgot to add that they are not “undocumented” workers here in my area of Northern Ca. They are “undocumented” non-workers. They hang around certain areas looking for work and there is none.

sandee on June 21, 2011 at 6:57 PM

“Shut up, you bigot!”

/Lindsey Graham

SouthernGent on June 21, 2011 at 6:57 PM

Just who does McCain think he is?

The nerve of that man, telling the truth like that. Well I never………..

iurockhead on June 21, 2011 at 6:57 PM

while still respecting the personhood of immigrants, many of whom have found themselves one-time rule-breakers

Found themselves? They knowingly put themselves in that situation. Respect their “personhood” enough not to kick them onto the deportation bus, but on the bus they must go.

Bishop on June 21, 2011 at 6:57 PM

If it sells books and get’s her mug all over the boob tube, she will.

Knucklehead on June 21, 2011 at 6:56 PM

Well, if that happens, then he’ll be painted as some ultra-conservative or something by the MSM.

MeatHeadinCA on June 21, 2011 at 6:58 PM

while still respecting the personhood of immigrants, many of whom have found themselves one-time rule-breakers who now live in a shadowland of uncertainty themselves

Oh boy. I can see the sympathy for the poor Mexican who is only ‘seeking a better life.’

Mexico is a racist country. Have you ever seen someone with Castillian blood stealing across the border? How about instead of sympathy for a people forced out of their own homeland, we put that energy behind forcing Mexicans to live up to their responsibility as a country and a people and allow their poor peasants a slice of the tortilla on the Mexico side of our border?

Texas Gal on June 21, 2011 at 6:59 PM

crash72 on June 21, 2011 at 6:52 PM

Semper Fi Teufelshund.

Roy Rogers on June 21, 2011 at 7:00 PM

Why do you insist on using the liberal term of “undocumented workers”? They are illegal aliens.

angryed on June 21, 2011 at 6:43 PM

How about “undocumented arsonists”?

forest on June 21, 2011 at 7:01 PM

What’s a few wildfires when we armed the murderers of 157 of their police officers?

pedestrian on June 21, 2011 at 7:04 PM

Why do you insist on using the liberal term of “undocumented workers”? They are illegal aliens.

angryed on June 21, 2011 at 6:43 PM

Some of them don’t even fit that term. Some of them don’t even work, especially those who go live in Portland, Maine. The city has a VERY non-working immigrant-friendly welfare policy.

NorthernCross on June 21, 2011 at 7:04 PM

Edit: Very FRIENDLY policy, I mean…

NorthernCross on June 21, 2011 at 7:10 PM

I really hate the term undocumented immigrants. Its gives off an impression that their status is due to a lost form in the mail, thus they became undocumented. However, that’s not the case at all.

El_Terrible on June 21, 2011 at 7:12 PM

They’re just starting the fires Americans won’t.

Aquateen Hungerforce on June 21, 2011 at 7:13 PM

That is, the majority believes the goal of U.S. immigration policy should be only to keep out national security threats, criminals and those who come here to live off our welfare system. Beyond that, all immigrants should be welcome.

Um, I hate to say this, but anchor babies provide opportunity to live off our welfare system, as does free healthcare and education for illegals and the children (American born or not) of illegals…

ladyingray on June 21, 2011 at 7:13 PM

while still respecting the personhood of immigrants, many of whom have found themselves one-time rule-breakers who now live in a shadowland of uncertainty themselves.

The people who started those fires are one-time rule-breakers who now live in a shadowland of uncertainly as a result of their actions, too. Should we respect their personhood?

FloatingRock on June 21, 2011 at 7:13 PM

I believe strongly that it’s possible and indeed necessary to talk about the negative aspects of illegal immigration — the threat it poses to the rule of law, the security risks of a weak border — while still respecting the personhood of immigrants, many of whom have found themselves one-time rule-breakers who now live in a shadowland of uncertainty themselves.

Tina, they need to go back home and apply to immigrate the legal way. Period.

ladyingray on June 21, 2011 at 7:16 PM

I really hate the term undocumented immigrants. Its gives off an impression that their status is due to a lost form in the mail, thus they became undocumented. However, that’s not the case at all.

El_Terrible on June 21, 2011 at 7:12 PM

Well, that term does kinda fit since so many of them illegally circumvent documentation requirements.

NorthernCross on June 21, 2011 at 7:17 PM

You can add South Carolina to your list, Tina. I’m sure Lindsey Graham is pee’od about this. And Nikki Haley will definitely sign this…

COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) — A bill that requires police in South Carolina to check suspects’ legal status and mandates that all businesses check their hires through a federal online system is one step from becoming law.

The House voted 69-43 on Tuesday to agree with the Senate’s changes and send the bill to Gov. Nikki Haley.

The bill expands on an anti-illegal-immigration law passed in 2008 that at the time was considered among the nation’s toughest.

The bill requires officers to call federal immigration officials if they suspect someone is in the country illegally. The question must follow an arrest or traffic stop for something else. The measure bars officers from holding someone on that suspicion.

Opponents say the bill will encourage racial profiling and lead to lawsuits.

SouthernGent on June 21, 2011 at 7:17 PM

And, adding to the controversy, we are reminded about Perry’s signing of a DREAM Act in Texas.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2011/jun/19/picket-does-gop-want-perrys-dream-act-too/

knob on June 21, 2011 at 6:44 PM

Between that link and THIS….
http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2008-10-13-35851ca99c.jpg

If Perry gets into this race it looks like he’ll have some ‘splaining to do.

tencole on June 21, 2011 at 7:17 PM

Tina takes Allah’s place as the new HotAir RINO.

Well, at least she’s prettier than Mega-Mac…..

rightwingyahooo on June 21, 2011 at 7:17 PM

“If the comments were rooted in credible information, which all indications suggest they were, then they were a responsible mention of yet another way a breakdown in border security leaves states vulnerable to criminals.”

Tina…

… I am 46 and lived my entire life in Southern California say a year or two.

The information is credible…!

Seven Percent Solution on June 21, 2011 at 7:18 PM

Soooooooooooooooooo,when do the Immigration Activists
start handed out yellow stars!
(sarc).

canopfor on June 21, 2011 at 7:18 PM

Why do you insist on using the liberal term of “undocumented workers”? They are illegal aliens.

angryed on June 21, 2011 at 6:43 PM

Seconded.

Sugarbuzz on June 21, 2011 at 6:45 PM

Third.

INC on June 21, 2011 at 6:47 PM

Fourth.

tencole on June 21, 2011 at 7:18 PM

100.000 illegal immigrants in California’s prisons agree with MCCain. Each cost the tax payer about 50000 a year.

CW on June 21, 2011 at 7:19 PM

McCain’s remarks make a scapegoat of undocumented workers only if he made them up.

… while still respecting the personhood of immigrants, many of whom have found themselves one-time rule-breakers who now live in a shadowland of uncertainty themselves.

Tina, I was willing to give you a change. These comments only prove your immaturity.

You’ll get zero hits from me going forward…

ladyingray on June 21, 2011 at 7:19 PM

I have no doubt that the illegal aliens are doing this. We live in TX and we are knee deep in illegal aliens doing major damage daily. That doesn’t begin to tell with the cost of these little darlings and kids here.

But, think about this, bho and team will see to it these little darlings can vote for this slug slime! At least here in TX you gotta have a photo. Not sure that will help?
L

letget on June 21, 2011 at 7:20 PM

Tencole, don’t let the site RINOs discourage you from posting that often on Perry threads…..

They will try to call you a racist and a fanatic, but hang tough and tell the truth.

rightwingyahooo on June 21, 2011 at 7:20 PM

So,firing up the Latino base!!!

canopfor on June 21, 2011 at 7:20 PM

“one time rule breakers” ….are you kidding?

lynncgb on June 21, 2011 at 7:20 PM

Um, I hate to say this, but anchor babies provide opportunity to live off our welfare system, as does free healthcare and education for illegals and the children (American born or not) of illegals…

And it’s even better for illegal immigrants, with citizen children, who have been here for 10 years. They can apply at the immigration courts for the right to obtain green cards. no foolin’, we’ve already got the path for citizenship on the books for years now.

NorthernCross on June 21, 2011 at 7:21 PM

“There is substantial evidence that some of these fires have been caused by people who have crossed our border illegally,” McCain said. “The answer to that part of the problem is to get a secure border.”

Who says Old People can’t learn new things?
/sarc

Bruno Strozek on June 21, 2011 at 7:21 PM

“Mexico is a racist country. Have you ever seen someone with Castillian blood stealing across the border? How about instead of sympathy for a people forced out of their own homeland, we put that energy behind forcing Mexicans to live up to their responsibility as a country and a people and allow their poor peasants a slice of the tortilla on the Mexico side of our border?
Texas Gal on June 21, 2011 at 6:59 PM”

RIGHT ON! You nailed it Texas Gal. THANKS.

JimP on June 21, 2011 at 7:21 PM

She’s an unbelievable RINO. Even Allah never sticks it in and breaks it off with conservatives, like this…

rightwingyahooo on June 21, 2011 at 7:22 PM

While McCain is right about this, he also neglects to point out the horrible forest management that creates such humongous tinderboxes. It’s one thing to light a match, it’s another to create a million acre fuel supply for a blaze.

MJBrutus on June 21, 2011 at 7:22 PM

Come on, McCain. Everyone knows the fires started because of global warming. Melting glaciers and excess carbon and whatever. Ask your daughter, she’ll set you straight…

joejm65 on June 21, 2011 at 6:52 PM

:)

tencole on June 21, 2011 at 7:24 PM

But have illegals been setting fires?

Last year there was a demonstration by illegals and illegals rights advocates at the capital building in Arizona. Here is a photo and the caption that went with it.
Go to the link and scroll down a bit for the photos of illegals protesting at the Arizona capital.

This desecration of our flag occurred on the main lawn directly in front of the Arizona Capital building on 7-31-2010….All caught on video.

These illegals and their Mexican pro-illegal alien supporters, spray painted, “Burn this racist city to the ground” and placed a toilet seat on Old Glory as they walked all over our flag.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2737873/posts

JellyToast on June 21, 2011 at 7:28 PM

How about ‘undocumented arsonists’?

slickwillie2001 on June 21, 2011 at 7:28 PM

US Forest Service
http://www.fs.fed.us/fire/
===================

National Interagency Coordination Center
Incident Management Situation Report
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 – 0530 MT
National Preparedness Level 3

http://www.nifc.gov/nicc/sitreprt.pdf

canopfor on June 21, 2011 at 7:28 PM

the majority believes the goal of U.S. immigration policy should be only to keep out national security threats, criminals and those who come here to live off our welfare system. Beyond that, all immigrants should be welcome.

This is what I want!

IowaWoman on June 21, 2011 at 6:47 PM

Not sure if that needed a sarc tag but if you were “TexasWoman” or “ArizonaWoman” instead of “IowaWoman” you would not feel that way, I promise you.

mrsmwp on June 21, 2011 at 7:28 PM

…substantial evidence of political opportunism.

lexhamfox on June 21, 2011 at 7:29 PM

How about ‘undocumented arsonists’?

slickwillie2001 on June 21, 2011 at 7:28 PM

slickwillie2001:Lol,waiting for new Hopey term for
the Right!

Burnerists!(snark).

canopfor on June 21, 2011 at 7:30 PM

Homeless encampments have been attributed to huge wildfires in California over the past several years …yet the media has no problem with pointedly identifying them as the culprits.

So why the sudden outrage when the finger is being pointed (correctly) at illegal border-crossers?

The Ugly American on June 21, 2011 at 7:30 PM

I seem to remember a few years back that Muslim fanatics had threatened to start fires in America too.

So strange how some conservative can say something innocent and the media will twist it and blame that conservative for all kinds of violence. Let a terrorist, lib or some other malcontent blatantly and openly threaten to burn, blow up, tear down or murder Americans and they will never be held accountable. It will always be forgotten. Even if actions occur later that are exactly what was threatened, the media will be clueless and scratch their heads.

JellyToast on June 21, 2011 at 7:33 PM

the majority believes the goal of U.S. immigration policy should be only to keep out national security threats, criminals and those who come here to live off our welfare system. Beyond that, all immigrants should be welcome.

This is what I want!

IowaWoman on June 21, 2011 at 6:47 PM

Maybe so but it’s not a majority opinion, not even close.

FloatingRock on June 21, 2011 at 7:33 PM

Shame on the people who re-elected him! He should have been put out to pasture long ago.

GFW on June 21, 2011 at 7:37 PM

I live here in Sierra Vista, and am on pre-evacuation notice which means I have to keep bags packed in case in we need to get out. I’ve been watching flames destroy the mountains behind my house. I have friends who haven’t been home since last Wednesday. I’m sick of smelling the smoke. I have ash all over my front porch. And as much as I can’t stand John McCain, he’s right. We’re sick of illegals coming through here and trashing our land. Sick of paying for their education, healthcare and welfare benefits. And we’re really sick of being called RACIST for being sick of it. Breaking the law has nothing to do with your race!!! You all think this is a joke? 12,000 people’s lives have been disrupted because of this!
http://www.kvoa.com/news/fire-was-likely-started-by-illegal-immigrants-dever-says/

Special K on June 21, 2011 at 7:41 PM

It is a documented fact that one of the largest wild fires in CA history was started by an illegal alien who got lost in the woods a set a fire hoping to be rescued by the smoke signals. It was during the dry season and if IIIRC they found the guy who did it.

The MSM burried the story the same way they burried the story about the gay guy who cased the largest train wreck because he was texting little boys and missed the warning signals of another train.

I welcome correction but these are the facts as I know them.

I can’t provide links now cause I’m on an iPhone on a beach walk.

Geochelone on June 21, 2011 at 7:43 PM

Either way, the fuss reflects just how touchy the issue of illegal immigration has become.

No, it reflects how weak and clueless even Republicans are in the face of the illegal immigrant lobby. It reflects the fact that illegals and their fans know they can even intimidate US Senators with the threat of being called racist.

People who live outside of southern California are clueless about the tsunami-like invasion of Mexicans and others that has changed California, especially in the last 10 years. The media doesn’t report it in its true scale, beltway Republicans are oblivious, and the invasion rolls on.

I can’t help but feel that we’re doomed as a nation. We’re too weak and, frankly, too cowardly to face up to the calculated cries of racism to do anything about it.

California used to have the best schools producing some of the best graduates in the nation. Now, the “newcomers” as the nitwit G.W. Bush likes to call them, graduate from high school at a lower than 50% rate. Mexican invasion = third world population = third world economy = America as a third world power.

Django on June 21, 2011 at 7:47 PM

And in spite of all of this:
http://dailycaller.com/2011/06/20/white-house-loosens-border-rules-for-2012/
Obama, why don’t you go be president of Mexico and leave us alone?

Special K on June 21, 2011 at 7:47 PM

I live 20 miles north of the largest border crossing in the world.

Illegals do well more than break 1 law.

Identity theft
Trespassing
Littering
Driving uninsured
Driving without a license
Human trafficking
Gun running
Drug smuggling
Getting paid under the table
Abusing social services
Monopolizing the ER

Geochelone on June 21, 2011 at 7:49 PM

John offended the PC police.

That’s not such a bad thing.

Illegal alien’s have been the cause of many fires, the libs just don’t want the it exposed.

The other issue is that environmentalists through their demand for non management are the cause of catastrophic damage. But the libs don’t want to hear that either.

Speakup on June 21, 2011 at 7:49 PM

All open boarders types should be forced to live in a community that has been negatively affected by illegal immigrants. It is tiresome for people who have not been exposed to the harm that these illegals have caused to preach at those who have. These people have no idea what it’s like.

Rose on June 21, 2011 at 7:52 PM

I forgot to mention illegals join Gangs and commit acts of violence

Geochelone on June 21, 2011 at 7:53 PM

I seem to remember a few years back that Muslim fanatics had threatened to start fires in America too….

JellyToast on June 21, 2011 at 7:33 PM

Remember the ‘palestinians’ started some huge fires in Israel last Fall.

slickwillie2001 on June 21, 2011 at 7:55 PM

If I remember right, the first fire by Portal, Arizona was mentioned as being started by illegal aliens because it was in an illegal immigrant corridor along the Mexico/Arizona/New Mexico border. I don’t remember any outrage when that was mentioned by local news back then.

JavelinaBomb on June 21, 2011 at 7:57 PM

“…while still respecting the personhood of immigrants, many of whom have found themselves one-time rule-breakers who now live in a shadowland of uncertainty themselves.”

F–k ‘em and their “personhood”. The illegals just laugh at stuff like this, to the degree they even understand it. There are numerous organizations in California and elsewhere – from MEChA and La Raza to milder groups like hispanic women’s business groups – that are openly racist in favor of hispanics.

They’re here to advance Mexicans and hispanics and push whites and Americans out. They could not give a damn about your precious white American personhood.

Even American conservatives are just oblivious. They just don’t get it.

Django on June 21, 2011 at 7:57 PM

Here’s some humble undocumented workers respecting the “personhood” of black Americans:

Latino Gang Targeted Blacks, U.S. Says

“LOS ANGELES—Members of a Latino gang affiliated with the Mexican Mafia conspired for nearly 20 years to drive African-Americans out of the Southern California city of Azusa through violence and intimidation, federal authorities alleged Tuesday.

Fifty-one alleged members of the Azusa 13 gang were indicted on racketeering and conspiracy charges; six were accused of conspiring to violate the civil rights of African-Americans. The case marks the second time federal civil-rights laws have been used against a gang, authorities said.

‘The Azusa 13 gang waged a campaign of hate during a two-decade crime spree in which African-Americans were harassed and attacked,’ U.S. Attorney André Birotte Jr. said in a written statement Tuesday. ‘We hope that this federal case will signal the end of this racist behavior and will help vindicate all of the victims who have suffered over the years.’”

Django on June 21, 2011 at 8:01 PM

Why do you insist on using the liberal term of “undocumented workers”? They are illegal aliens.

angryed on June 21, 2011 at 6:43 PM

Seconded.

Sugarbuzz on June 21, 2011 at 6:45 PM

Third.

INC on June 21, 2011 at 6:47 PM

Fourth.

tencole on June 21, 2011 at 7:18 PM

Fifth.

rrpjr on June 21, 2011 at 8:01 PM

One of my children who works at the BP site responsible for the area where the Monument fire started said that two BP agents checking out the trails higher up in the mountains noted two person jump the fence from Mexico move up into the hills then hurriedly return to Mexico. Moments later they spotted the fire and tried to get down to it and get it under control. Illegal immigrants or Narco Terrorists name your poison if what was passed on is true.

chemman on June 21, 2011 at 8:05 PM

Isn’t McCain the guy who nearly lost his Presidential candidacy 4 years ago over promoting amnesty?

What is his game here?

JeffWeimer on June 21, 2011 at 8:05 PM

This is the biggest load of crap I have EVER seen here at Hot Air.
Undocumented workers? Really? How about all those undocumented pharmacists?
Ask any AMERICAN CITIZEN who has been a victim of these ‘undocumented workers’ if THEIR personhood has been respected?
You’re part of the PROBLEM, not part of the solution.

HornetSting on June 21, 2011 at 8:07 PM

People who live outside of southern California are clueless about the tsunami-like invasion of Mexicans and others that has changed California,

Django on June 21, 2011 at 7:47 PM

They’re all over the place up here in Washington State. One rural county has more illegals than citizens according to the multicultural local paper, and my county was in the low 30 percentile range as I recall.

FloatingRock on June 21, 2011 at 8:08 PM

Geochelone on June 21, 2011 at 7:49 PM

The busiest illegal crossing area is the Tucson sector from Yuma to Douglas. So where in southern Arizona are you located?

chemman on June 21, 2011 at 8:09 PM

Are you sure your name isn’t LaTina?

Geochelone on June 21, 2011 at 8:10 PM

And Palin would give these types legal status. She said do on Bill O Reilly’s show, and Greta’s….

rightwingyahooo on June 21, 2011 at 8:15 PM

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