Huntsman for subsidies before he was against them?

posted at 2:00 pm on June 21, 2011 by Jazz Shaw

Given the amount of time we spend discussing energy policy here, as well as subsidies and the artificial effect they have on the economy, a couple of points on newly minted POTUS candidate Jon Huntsman are coming to light. First, during an interview with CNN’s Candy Crowley, he had the following to say.

I think phasing out all subsidies, some will have to be done on a faster track than others, but moving toward a phase out of all subsidies is going to be very important for budgetary reasons in this country. When you look at the tens of billions of dollars that we’ve built our economy on that create artificiality in the market place, they have to be addressed at some point. And I know they’re politically sensitive but we’re at a point where for budget reasons we can’t wait a whole lot longer.

So far so good, right? We don’t need subsidies artificially distorting the market while allowing Washington to pick winners and losers, particularly at a time when when we’re in a very definite budget cutting mood. But next we look at a report showing that Jon endorsed the “Pickens Plan” regarding natural gas.

T. Boone Pickens may get some neededpositive Republican reinforcement for his plan boosting natural gas-poweredvehicles when Jon Huntsman officially announces his run for the GOP presidential nomination today.

“Huntsman has long been a fan of the so-called Pickens Plan aimed at boosting domestic natural gas production and use in vehicles as a way to reduce dependence on foreign oil — a position he reiterated at a meet-and-greet event hosted by the Republican National Committee last Thursday, according to witnesses.”

Before we go any further, I will point out that I have been a consistent supporter of natural gas as one of the domestic energy sources we have with tremendous potential. It’s already widely used for heating and small-scale transportation needs around the country, and we are pretty much the Saudi Arabia of natural gas. Further, compressed natural gas (CNG) may, I believe, have a tremendous future in this country.

But what natural gas and CNG do not need is government subsidies. If it’s a viable energy source, as I firmly believe, it will succeed on its own. American innovation is still capable of taking that technology as far as it can go, which may be a long way. But the market will adopt it without the aid of Washington when its time comes round. If ethanol taught us nothing else, it should have made that much clear.

It would be nice for somebody to put this question to Huntsman if and when we get to see him on the debate circuit. Domestic energy is vital, but not if we rush down the wrong path as we did with ethanol.

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gutsy.

ted c on June 21, 2011 at 2:05 PM

Huntsman needs to get off the stage. He’s a day late and a dollar short. AND he’s a RINO.

GarandFan on June 21, 2011 at 2:06 PM

And if the federal government wants spur green or new energy technology. Change the patent laws to increase the number of years an inventor gets exclusivity to their patent. That is, give them greater opportunity to get RICH from their innovation.

No subsidy required.

WashJeff on June 21, 2011 at 2:07 PM

We’ll see the same picture here at the DNC in Charlotte.

Marcus on June 21, 2011 at 2:07 PM

No-drama-Obama, no less, no more.

He’ll screw you too, just with more finesse.

Schadenfreude on June 21, 2011 at 2:07 PM

Those two azzholes in the picture are enough to make one’s breakfast/lunch come back.

Schadenfreude on June 21, 2011 at 2:11 PM

OT Obama plunges in Gallup. Approval drops 4 in one day, disapproval rises 5.

andy85719 on June 21, 2011 at 2:13 PM

Go away, Jon. Please. Just another RINO trying to sound like Reagan while running away from him at the same time. Embarrassing announcement speech today.

Sporty1946 on June 21, 2011 at 2:14 PM

Why is this guy bothering with entering the race. He is worse than McCain and will never receive the nomination.

I rather not vote if he ends up on the ticket

Opposite Day on June 21, 2011 at 2:15 PM

Huntsman is about as exciting as a soggy sponge.

pilamaye on June 21, 2011 at 2:18 PM

ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz…………
.
Wake me up when he drops out or runs out of money.

OmahaConservative on June 21, 2011 at 2:20 PM

Rush compared JH’s speech at the Statue of Liberty to Reagan’s speech there 1n 1980. Huntsman is no Reagan. Not close.

Expect the left to be voting in droves for huntsman in open primary states, ala McCain. The left’s favorite Republican.

iurockhead on June 21, 2011 at 2:20 PM

Wake me up when he drops out or runs out of money.

OmahaConservative on June 21, 2011 at 2:20 PM

Hopefully his daddy (an extremely wealthy man) will not be subsidising his campaign.

iurockhead on June 21, 2011 at 2:22 PM

I rather not vote if he ends up on the ticket

Opposite Day on June 21, 2011 at 2:15 PM

Which is why this will occur:

Expect the left to be voting in droves for huntsman in open primary states, ala McCain. The left’s favorite Republican.

iurockhead on June 21, 2011 at 2:20 PM

iurockhead on June 21, 2011 at 2:23 PM

Those two azzholes in the picture are enough to make one’s breakfast/lunch come back.

Schadenfreude on June 21, 2011 at 2:11 PM

See how successful they are? Already implementing successful strategies for renewable energy!

catmman on June 21, 2011 at 2:24 PM

So what is Huntsman’s strategy for using his STARDUST!! as a renewable energy source?

catmman on June 21, 2011 at 2:26 PM

That photo of him and Obowma will come in handy when Obowma picks him for his new Vice President…

Seven Percent Solution on June 21, 2011 at 2:26 PM

This guy QUIT his Governorship.

I hear that makes a candidate Not Presidential.

portlandon on June 21, 2011 at 2:29 PM

The last thing the Republicans need is another compromising wuss . . . and that precisely defines this milquetoast RINO.

rplat on June 21, 2011 at 2:34 PM

Rush totally ripping Huntsman’s effete mimicry of Reagan’s announcement. Compare & contrast RWR’s gutting of Carter’s policies and JH’s lovefest for Obambi’s pres**ency.

AH_C on June 21, 2011 at 2:43 PM

See how successful they are? Already implementing successful strategies for renewable energy!

catmman on June 21, 2011 at 2:24 PM

Indeed, who needs ethanol?

Schadenfreude on June 21, 2011 at 2:45 PM

Photo Caption:

One of these things is not like the others,
One of these things just doesn’t belong,
Can you tell which thing is not like the others

(the answer is G. Washington)

BobMbx on June 21, 2011 at 2:55 PM

Romney-Huntsman 2012! No matter what your position is, we agree with you!

rbj on June 21, 2011 at 3:09 PM

Good grief…is their a stage bib enough for all these nitwits?
How about this for the next debate:
Bachmann
Mitt
Cain
Perry
and an unnamed 5th person to be announced.

right2bright on June 21, 2011 at 3:10 PM

I can just imagine his dates:

Where do you want to go?…I dunno…no you choose…okay, pizza…yeah, me too that where I really wanted to go, great choice…

right2bright on June 21, 2011 at 3:11 PM

I want to see a candidate who isn’t afraid to call out Barack Obama by name, and maybe even use the word “incompetent” within one or two words of that name.

I want to see a candidate that will point out that Republicans tried several times to more closely regulate the GSEs during the Bush Administration but that Senate Democrats blocked every attempt. After gaining the Congress, the Democrats made the problems even worse by not only reducing regulation requirements on the GSEs but in increasing the amount of stupid mortgages they were required to guarantee.

I want to see a candidate that will point out that this economic downturn is the direct result of Democrat policies and that Democrat policies are not going to turn things around.

But most of all, I want to see a candidate who will look the American people right in the eye on camera and call Obama and the Democrats failures. Failures and thieves as they have betrayed the people and in many cases taken their jobs away, their homes away, and to some if feels like their entire future has been taken away by the policies of the Democrats and Barack Obama.

The Obama administration smuggles guns to drug gangs that kill our people. The Obama administration makes policies that force jobs overseas, plants to close, and people to lose their homes.

When are we going to have a candidate that stands up, calls Obama out by name, and says he wants the job because Obama is a plain old-fashioned failure?

crosspatch on June 21, 2011 at 3:13 PM

Huntsman is about as exciting as a soggy sponge.

pilamaye on June 21, 2011 at 2:18 PM

At this point…

Soggy Sponge 2012!

…looks more and more like an attractive alternative.

mankai on June 21, 2011 at 3:16 PM

When are we going to have a candidate that stands up, calls Obama out by name, and says he wants the job because Obama is a plain old-fashioned failure?

crosspatch on June 21, 2011 at 3:13 PM

Don’t hold your breath.

mankai on June 21, 2011 at 3:20 PM

Huntsman is too weak to be considered seriously. We elected the most empty suit in our history with Obama and we see what that got us. Huntsman is the same song, different verse. When he tries to illustrate his closeness to Ronald Reagan, it becomes hilarious. He may talk the talk to try to imitate Reagan, but he can never walk the walk. It is too obvious he is a RINO for anyone other than establishment republicans and they are not taken seriously at all.

volsense on June 21, 2011 at 3:22 PM

Typical RINO.

THIS is why RINO’s must fail.

Roy Rogers on June 21, 2011 at 3:38 PM

I don’t think Huntsman is a RINO…..He cut taxes, ran one of the most business friendly states in the country, pro 2nd amendment, free market healthcare, pro life…

I’d probably put him to the right of Romney and to the left of Pawlenty.

therightwinger on June 21, 2011 at 4:18 PM

The good news is that huntsman will siphon off some of the Romneycare vote.

Slowburn on June 21, 2011 at 5:43 PM

And if we weren’t burning feed and blocking fuel?

papertiger on June 21, 2011 at 8:07 PM

we are pretty much the Saudi Arabia of natural gas.

Really? And it’s cost effective to get to?

http://www.eia.gov/dnav/ng/ng_move_impc_s1_a.htm

In 2010 we imported 3,736,840 million cubic feet of Natural Gas at a cost of $4.52 per thousand cubic feet.

4.52 * 1,000 * 3,736,840 = 16,890,516,800 We’re spending almost 17 billion dollars a year on natural gas imports because we have so much natural gas?

To be fair we did also export 1,136,789 million cubic feet; so maybe only 2/3rds of that is valid given the additional information.

Why did we spend 10 billion importing something when we have a massive surplus? I’m willing to accept the theory that the government is blocking development because they’re stupid; but someone is going to have to give some evidence to back up that theory (blocking development, I’ll take the stupid for granted).

Businesses generally aren’t stupid enough to import something they can get cheaper locally, so why is that occurring? Or is it not cheaper locally because the lifting cost of the massive quantity of natural gas is higher than the current market value?

gekkobear on June 21, 2011 at 9:21 PM

We elected the most empty suit in our history with Obama and we see what that got us. Huntsman is the same song, different verse.

volsense on June 21, 2011 at 3:22 PM

Wel that’s not fair at all, lets see what Huntsman’s campaign plan is?

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-jon-huntsman-announcement-20110621,0,4975162.story?track=rss

Short videos posted to his website over the last week show a man riding his motorcycle through scenic Utah, with vague one-line messages such as “The candidate for president who rides motocross to relax.”

“In order to beat the president, we’re going to have to beat him at his own game. And that involves being big and being bigger than the president,” a campaign aide said Monday of the buildup. “We’re introducing a fresh candidate; we’re introducing an outsider to a lot of the country…. The ramp-up is part of our effort to introduce him and his unique background.” a campaign aide said Monday

So the plan is to be a bigger celebrity empty-suit than Obama in order to win the election… while not giving details on policy decisions and relying on vague slogans.

Sorry volsense, you were being perfectly fair, and possibly reading from a “Huntsman for President” press release… I apologize for questioning you.

gekkobear on June 21, 2011 at 9:27 PM

I think a bright flashlight would shine right through this guy. His speech sounded more like an acceptance speech than an announcement of anything.

He seems to have been misinformed about how hard up the GOP is for candidates this year.

flataffect on June 22, 2011 at 12:52 AM