NLRB tried to save America from dumb, unskilled Southern workers

posted at 9:24 pm on June 20, 2011 by J.E. Dyer

I had to check my paper copy of the Wall Street Journal today to make sure this wasn’t some elaborate prank.  Then I double-checked what year it is, to make sure I hadn’t been slingshotted around the sun and found myself back in 1975.

That’s about when I remember it last being routine for Rust Belt lawyers to publicly disparage the skills and education of people from the South.  The only thing missing from the op-ed by Chicago-based lawyer Thomas Geoghegan is the word “hick” or “hillbilly.”  WSJ is to be applauded for its determination to feature different viewpoints, but Geoghegan’s piece certainly pushes the envelope.

The topic is the NLRB ruling against Boeing moving its assembly plant for the Dreamliner to South Carolina.  And it really is as bad as my intro suggests.  Go read it, if you think I may be cherry-picking or making a mountain out of a molehill.  I’ll wait.  OK, here’s that last paragraph again:

Most depressing of all, Boeing’s move would send a market signal to those considering a career in engineering or high-skilled manufacturing …: Don’t go to engineering school, don’t bother with fancy apprenticeships, don’t invest in skills.

In case you miss the point of the piece, here’s another go at it:  “We should be aghast that Boeing is sending a big fat market signal that it wants a less-skilled, lower-quality work force.”

And this:

… because of [our] trade deficit, foreign creditors have the country in their clutches. That’s not because of our labor costs … It’s because we have too many poorly educated and low-skilled workers that are simply unable to compete.

And Boeing wants to turn the manufacture of airplanes – airplanes! – over to these poorly educated, low-skilled workers in South Carolina.

Here’s a weird fact, though.  There is already a plant manufacturing rear-fuselage elements for Boeing in South Carolina.  (The Dreamliner final-assembly plant that opened 10 June is located next to it.)  South Carolina also has a BMW plant, a Honda plant, a Bosch plant, a Caterpillar plant, an American LaFrance plant (fire engines and ambulances), and a Daimler plant, all employing highly-skilled labor to manufacture big, intricate stuff that has to work.  That’s in addition to the Milliken, BASF, GE, Core, Bose, BP, DAK, DuPont, Eastman, Mitsubishi, Albemarle, MeadWestvaco, PhilChem, Roche, Mount Vernon Mills, Invista, Metromont, Johns Manville, Alcoa, Kimberly-Clark, Shaw, Jarrett, Mohawk, Anderson, AccuTrex, Sonoco, and Cox Industries plants – and those are just the ones I recognized by industry as I looked through the South Carolina Manufacturers Alliance website.  I left out a bunch of other ones.

Should I go on?  If Southern manufacturing workers are a national liability, we’re in big trouble.  All those aircraft engines being mishandled at the Pratt & Whitney plant in Georgia.  Shoddy VWs and Nissans coming out of Tennessee, Hyundai clunkers being puked out of Alabama, lousy Kias flooding the market from Georgia, Toyota risking its customers on the gap-toothed th’owbacks who show up with employment applications in Mississippi.

Texas is going to get us all killed: there are 248 separate listings for aircraft and aircraft parts manufacturers just in the Dallas area alone.  And let’s not even get started on all the scary, substandard manufacturing going on in North Carolina, where Honda headquarters its global aircraft-components manufacturing, and thousands of non-agricultural manufacturers are heaving chemicals, plastics, textiles, engine parts, computer parts, airplane and vehicle parts, and who know what else at an unsuspecting market every day of the year.

It’s a meltdown.  So many things are now manufactured in the poorly educated, low-skilled South, it’s a wonder you’re not dead yet.

Just a couple of sober points.  One, the South Carolina average manufacturing wage of $14 an hour isn’t what the most experienced workers, with the most difficult skill-sets and the longest time on the job, make.  Calculating the state’s average wage (for all “production” workers) takes into account lower-wage workers like food processors ($8-12 per hour), sewing-machine operators ($10 an hour), and furniture finishers ($11 an hour).

But first-line supervisors in equipment manufacturing plants make over $25 an hour. Computerized-machine operators in manufacturing make over $20 an hour; operators of grinding, lapping, buffing, and polishing machines make over $19 an hour, and welders, solderers, and brazers make $16-17 an hour.  The average skilled manufacturing worker in an industry like Boeing’s is making $16-21 an hour in South Carolina – and that’s an average.  Some workers make more, depending on skills, seniority, and position.

The average in Washington State, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, was $16.75 per hour, for all “production” workers in the same period (figures are for 2010).  Mr. Geoghegan pulls the demagogue’s trick of comparing the South Carolina state average with the union pay of some (not all) Boeing workers in Washington.  The actual wage differential for the same types of work is $1-3 an hour – not $14.

The second point relates to Geoghegan’s discussion of the Boeing “retaliation” against past worker strikes in Washington.  Geoghegan makes the supremely cynical case that if the CEO of Boeing had simply kept his mouth shut about moving to South Carolina because of the cost of strikes in Washington, he could have brought off the move without interference from the Feds.

But it is a corrupt kind of “law” that can be gotten around so easily.  The purpose of properly-constituted law is not to show meaningless solidarity with unions.  It is to define what government will prosecute and punish.  Law that has to be ignored, gamed, and gotten around in order for human life to function – and law that can be ignored, gamed, and gotten around – loses the respect of the people, and corrupts their consciences and the consciences of government officials.  If the law in question is so unlikely to be enforced, then the most important point of all is that we don’t need it in the first place.

J.E. Dyer’s articles have appeared at The Green Room, Commentary’s “contentions,Patheos, The Weekly Standard online, and her own blog, The Optimistic Conservative.

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Nice take down…

d1carter on June 20, 2011 at 9:27 PM

Well, Boeing did play the anti-European card against Northrup/EADS in the USAF tanker deal, which screwed Southerners and Mobile, Alabama, so par for the course.

Christien on June 20, 2011 at 9:28 PM

There are plenty of non-UAW auto plants in the South as well, and cars aren’t flying apart on the highways as a result.

pseudoforce on June 20, 2011 at 9:29 PM

the bigotry exhibited in that article is STUNNING!

Justrand on June 20, 2011 at 9:30 PM

Obama’s Chicago mafia strikes again.

Philly on June 20, 2011 at 9:31 PM

Has this guy heard of BMW?

Philly on June 20, 2011 at 9:31 PM

Excellent piece J.E.

Knucklehead on June 20, 2011 at 9:31 PM

We all should be so lucky to have a liberal, pro-union lawyer protecting us from ourselves. We the unclean masses who couldn’t find our asses with two hands.

MJZZZ on June 20, 2011 at 9:32 PM

Maybe it’s just me…but what’s with these fricking “tweets”, instead of REAL blogs so that we can link to facebook? Did Weiner influence all of the HA headliners so they have to “tweet” a story? I HATE it…

But that is just my lowly opinion, since I like to link to my fb page…oh well.

lovingmyUSA on June 20, 2011 at 9:33 PM

LOL

Philly on June 20, 2011 at 9:33 PM

I’ve been to the Carolinas once. Those are not gap-toothed yokels down there!

I’ve got no dog in this fight, living 400 miles south of Boeing-land, on the coast of the mythical state of Jefferson as I am, and far, far indeed, from the American South.

Obviously the NRLB was thinking of the folks who infest Manhattan, and the suburbs of Washington D.C.

Scribbler on June 20, 2011 at 9:34 PM

Alabama has Mercedes Benz, Hyundai, NASA-Huntsville, and support industries for those corporations. Leaving engineering for a moment, let’s mention UAB Hospital in B’ham, one of the premier hospitals in the nation.

Mr. Geoghegan is one of those people we in the south call a “dumbass”. No prejudice, no bias, just the truth.

AubieJon on June 20, 2011 at 9:34 PM

THAT’S going to leave a mark!

Roy Rogers on June 20, 2011 at 9:35 PM

“If the law in question is so unlikely to be enforced, then the most important point of all is that we don’t need it in the first place.”

Kind of like our border laws and the availability of cheap labor via illegal aliens…

… Oh, wait!

Seven Percent Solution on June 20, 2011 at 9:35 PM

lovingmyUSA on June 20, 2011 at 9:33 PM

I was wondering the same thing. What happened to the thingy to link the story to Facebook?

Knucklehead on June 20, 2011 at 9:36 PM

NLRB: shameful…

Khun Joe on June 20, 2011 at 9:40 PM

LOL somehow I expect the NRLB/Obama administration will be walking back from this ASAP.

F15Mech on June 20, 2011 at 9:40 PM

That is a ready made add to be played in the south during the next election.

F15Mech on June 20, 2011 at 9:42 PM

From my blog post on this exact subject today:

The National Labor Relations Board (which investigates unfair labor practices) sued the state claiming that Boeing only moved to South Carolina from Washington to retaliate against a union strike in that state. It’s important to note that the NLRB is made up of four members, three of whom were recess appointees by Obama. Boeing pointed out that 787s will still be built in the Washington plant, at the same rate, and that they actually added 2,000 jobs after the move, but – as usual – the left couldn’t be bothered with the facts.

The Obama Administration, through its silence and appointments, is trying to cripple the world’s largest aerospace corporation and America’s leading exporter, which has a little over 155,000 U.S. employees.

Washington Nearsider on June 20, 2011 at 9:42 PM

I’m glad the WSJ ran the article. Boeing can certainly breathe a little easier with people like Geoghegan on the other side.

NYconservative on June 20, 2011 at 9:42 PM

There are plenty of non-UAW auto plants in the South as well, and cars aren’t flying apart on the highways as a result.

pseudoforce on June 20, 2011 at 9:29 PM

I’ll take a car made non-UAW workers in the South any day of the week over a Government Motors product made by fat, lazy and greedy UAW workers, who are on the job not because they are the best or the most productive workers, but because the union says they have been there the longest.

I suspect the same goes for airplanes. Half the time the union pigs are working through a labor dispute and are quite willing to sabotage products to put pressure on the corporation that owns the assembly line.

slickwillie2001 on June 20, 2011 at 9:43 PM

SEC. 7. Employees shall have the right of self-organization, to form, join, or assist labor organizations, to bargain collectively through representatives of their own choosing, and to engage in concerted activities, for the purpose of collective bargaining or other mutual aid or protection.

SEC. 8. It shall be an unfair labor practice for an employer-

(1) To interfere with, restrain, or coerce employees in the exercise of the rights guaranteed in section 7.

(2) To dominate or interfere with the formation or administration of any labor organization or contribute financial or other support to it: Provided, That… an employer shall not be prohibited from permitting employees to confer with him during working hours without loss of time or pay.

(3) By discrimination in regard to hire or tenure of employment or any term or condition of employment to encourage or discourage membership in any labor organization: Provided, That nothing in this Act or in any other statute of the United States, shall preclude an employer from making an agreement with a labor organization (not established, maintained, or assisted by any action defined in this Act as an unfair labor practice) to require as a condition of employment membership therein, if such labor organization is the representative of the employees in the appropriate collec tive bargaining unit covered by such agreement when made.

(4) To discharge or otherwise discriminate against an employee because he has filed charges or given testimony under this Act.

(5) To refuse to bargain collectively with the representatives of his employees.

That is the section he refers to in his oped. The prohibitions are found in section 8, not 7, but anyway… Nothing in that section prohibits where a business can locate a NEW assembly plant for new jobs that do not as of yet exist. Boeing should be free to locate its business where ever it wants and would only run afoul of this law if it refused to hire the union workers after they relocated to the south in retaliation for being a union member in Washington.

tommylotto on June 20, 2011 at 9:43 PM

The president of Bank of America, which is headquartered in Raleigh, NC says that “Shucks, he would never want to move B of A up to New York, they are just too smart and fast talkin”.

right2bright on June 20, 2011 at 9:43 PM

Someone needs to ask Geoghegan if northern labor is so much smarter, then why have all those auto manufacturers in Detroit failed so badly, either needing massive bailouts on a regular basis, or disappearing all together.

parke on June 20, 2011 at 9:44 PM

Texas makes America’s nukes. Now who is dumb?

Limerick on June 20, 2011 at 9:44 PM

I think it’s pretty fair to say this rich white labor lawyer from Chicago has a racial bias.

Washington state has a white population of 77.3% according to the census bureau. South Carolina, however, has a white population of only 66.2%. More notably however, South Carolina has a black population of 27.9% while Washington state has a black population of merely 3.6%. This op ed, by any conservative, would surely be seen as racist; no reason to suspect Master Thomas is somehow not.

BKeyser on June 20, 2011 at 9:45 PM

Isn’t this like racism?

Imagine how dumb we look to the rest of the world.

IlikedAUH2O on June 20, 2011 at 9:45 PM

If there were really an advantage to having union workers, they’d probably have stayed in Washington. Some unions have apprenticeship and training programs and really do provide a voucher of skill and competency, but some are just a bunch of blue collars caught in a battle between employers and union leadership, neither one of which is too involved with the interests of workers.

flataffect on June 20, 2011 at 9:45 PM

I’ve been to the Carolinas once. Those are not gap-toothed yokels down there!

Scribbler on June 20, 2011 at 9:34 PM

Wait a minute, there are a fair number of people missing teeth, but they aren’t missing politeness, or integrity. They are not as “educated”, they are so uneducated that they actually show up for work and work all day…

right2bright on June 20, 2011 at 9:47 PM

It’s because we have too many poorly educated and low-skilled workers that are simply unable to compete.

Even if this were true, who would be to blame for it? Who runs public education? Not our side!

predator on June 20, 2011 at 9:49 PM

would surely be seen as racist; no reason to suspect Master Thomas is somehow not.

BKeyser on June 20, 2011 at 9:45 PM

Are you implying that this guy is saying that the black labor force (which makes up much of the blue collar work force) is lazy and shiftless?
Good call, I do believe you are correct…

right2bright on June 20, 2011 at 9:49 PM

It’s because we have too many poorly educated and low-skilled workers that are simply unable to compete.

Code words for blacks are lazy and stupid…

right2bright on June 20, 2011 at 9:50 PM

I posted this in the WSJ comment section this morning:

In one breath the author claims that the decline in the rate of pay will bring Boeing down and then proceeds to say, “It’s incredible that conservatives claim such a small difference in labor cost would be life or death to Boeing”. Which is it Mr. Geoghegan?

Has Mr. Geoghegan read a newspaper in the past oh, say…twelve months? There are so many workers unemployed that $14 per hour is a competitive wage in this economic climate. You know who you can thank for that. He should be railing about the failed stimulus package that his (no doubt) hero spent and where a large chunk went to labor unions.

However, the insults he spews with regard to workers in the south is even more incredible, coming from someone who calls the northeast her home.

NYconservative on June 20, 2011 at 9:52 PM

The president of Bank of America, which is headquartered in Raleigh, NC says that “Shucks, he would never want to move B of A up to New York, they are just too smart and fast talkin”.

right2bright on June 20, 2011 at 9:43 PM

There is no way a B of A CEO would ever move to NY, because as everyone in NC knows, The northern boarder was settled during the war of northern aggression and NY is a different country.

[/southern hick] [/sarc]

F15Mech on June 20, 2011 at 9:52 PM

Judging from the population migration statistics, those “dumb” Southerners were “smart” Northerners a couple of years ago.

crosspatch on June 20, 2011 at 9:52 PM

I read that article this morning and felt as I always do with northerners diminishing southerns with contempt. While I live in NY I have been to many southern manufacturing plants as well as northern ones and the labor quality difference is not that great. Even where there is a difference, it generally is a matter of the older northern workers having more experience rather than the younger southern workers being stupid barbarians as New Yorkers stereotype them.

KW64 on June 20, 2011 at 9:55 PM

In case you miss the point of the piece, here’s another go at it: “We should be aghast that Boeing is sending a big fat market signal that it wants a less-skilled, lower-quality work force.”
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Oh no………the Carnival Barkers,Birthers,Bible Clingers,
Mongrels,Teabaggers,SnowBillys,and ad nausem…..

DO NOT APPLY!(Snark)

canopfor on June 20, 2011 at 9:56 PM

I think it’s pretty fair to say this rich white labor lawyer from Chicago has a racial bias.

Washington state has a white population of 77.3% according to the census bureau. South Carolina, however, has a white population of only 66.2%. More notably however, South Carolina has a black population of 27.9% while Washington state has a black population of merely 3.6%. This op ed, by any conservative, would surely be seen as racist; no reason to suspect Master Thomas is somehow not.

BKeyser on June 20, 2011 at 9:45 PM

Good points, perhaps Boeing should have said that they are going to South Carolina to seek a more diverse work force than exists in lily-white Seattle.

slickwillie2001 on June 20, 2011 at 9:56 PM

The most ridiculous administration ever!

tinkerthinker on June 20, 2011 at 9:59 PM

And this clown is out of Chicago? This state is in a fiscal crap hole, and this idiot is talking down southern states? Hell, we should be doing what Texas is doing! Quinn raised taxes on individuals and business then turned around and started giving all the big companies exempt status from those taxes to try and keep them from leaving. *palm, meet forehead*

predator on June 20, 2011 at 10:03 PM

NLRB Appointee by Hopey!
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Now an Unelected, Unconfirmed Obama Appointee Is Working or Destroy the Secret Ballot
April 30 2011
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In one action, the NLRB decided to sue the states of South Carolina and South Dakota because their voters had the audacity to protect their citizen’s right to a secret ballot vote in a union election.

The brains behind the NLRB attack on the American way of life, is a formerly obscure lawyer named Craig Becker.
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Becker’s views are so extreme when it comes to management/labor relations,

that his nomination was derailed by a bi-partisan vote in the Senate when it was controlled by 59 Democrats.

http://askmarion.wordpress.com/2011/04/30/now-an-unelected-unconfirmed-obama-appointee-is-working-or-destroy-the-secret-ballot/
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Audio Found: Craig Becker – Obama’s NLRB Appointee – In 2001 Pushing for No Sanctions for Employers Hiring Illegals – Updated and Bumped
March 28 2010
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Hmmm, he said the SEIU and labor unions have a very progressive position on immigration. Who is he speaking for, the employees of the unions, or the union leaders? I would think the employees might feel threatened by illegal aliens willing to work for far less money than Americans.

Either way, here’s Obama’s recess appointee to the NLRB. Typical.
(More….)

http://lonelyconservative.com/2010/03/audio-found-craig-becker-obamas-nlrb-appointee-in-2001-pushing-for-no-sanctions-for-employers-hiring-illegals/

canopfor on June 20, 2011 at 10:06 PM

Yep! We need to give these jobs to hard-working,intelligent citizens of the world such as Vancouver and Athens rioters and British soccer fans. And on the Fifth of May, 2012, let’s give all the manufacturing jobs in Texas to future Democratic voting Mexicans on their independence day-how do you say that in Spanish? Cinco??? “CUATRO” thanks Mr. President.

MaiDee on June 20, 2011 at 10:07 PM

A few years back, I actually worked as an IT manager in one of the metal stamping plants in the Greenville SC area that supplies BMW with body parts for assembly of the Z3 and Z4 roadsters. The plant management were almost all Detroit transplants and very much brought the anti-South bigotry with them. Really vile and extreme stuff and exactly the attitude Geoghegan takes in his story. They take the we/they (management/workers) to its legal extreme and generally loathe the workforce behind their back.

Anyway, automotive (or airplane) assembly line work does NOT require Einsteinian brain work to accomplish. Most critical processes are robotically controlled or otherwise highly automated and you really just need solid, reliable bodies with a high school education to man the posts. The real brains, engineers and programming staff aren’t going to be unionized anyway…and yes, South Carolina is blessed with one of the highest per capita numbers of engineers in the world! Yes believe it.

The NLRB will eventually lose this. Nikki Haley is NOT going to sit idly by and let this slip away. The plants have already been mostly completed.

starman on June 20, 2011 at 10:10 PM

Have they seen what is coming out of Detroit lately; not exactly Dixieland up there in Michigan.

Bishop on June 20, 2011 at 10:11 PM

The most ridiculous administration ever!

tinkerthinker on June 20, 2011 at 9:59 PM

tinkerthinker:Yup!!
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Craig Becker is the Lawyer for AFL-CIO,and SEIU
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Craig Becker: Radical Obama NLRB Nominee
May 17 2009
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Video(5:45)

Uploaded by Right2WorkCommittee on May 17, 2009

http://www.nrtwc.org/blog/archives/1400/bho-personnel-alert-becker1 (Download Alert) ACORN Founder Wade Rathke Calls Becker “Secret Weapon” read Alert for more information.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ia-l1RASG8

canopfor on June 20, 2011 at 10:13 PM

Lockheed has had a manufacturing plant in Georgia for at least 50 years I think not to mention there are Cessna and I believe Gulfstream plants in the state also.

Charlotte N.C. is recognized as the banking capital of the country, New York may have Wall St but North Carolina has all the banks.

The northern suburbs of Atlanta are recognized as one of the most technological career centers in the country.

And just maybe the NLRB might want to check those degrees on the walls at Boeing and see how many of them have a Georgia Tech seal on them.

I got sick and tired of having 100 points taken off my IQ just because I had a southern accent decades ago.

Just A Grunt on June 20, 2011 at 10:15 PM

Texas is going to get us all killed: there are 248 separate listings for aircraft and aircraft parts manufacturers just in the Dallas area alone

Soon there won’t be any power to run those plants, thanks to the foresight of the EPA. They got the Unions back.

Tommy_G on June 20, 2011 at 10:15 PM

I think,Obama does have his….

1,000,000 Million National Civilian Security Forces!

Lawyers
Paid Activists
Union Boss’s
Union(Brown Shirts)Goons/GoobEttes
Union Leaders

canopfor on June 20, 2011 at 10:16 PM

Tell ya what, I once took a loooooong motorcycle trip down in those states that sensitive northern liberals sneer at, and I met with more honest, open hospitality than anywhere else I have been in the world.

Nothing beats dragging yourself off the bike in a small town after a long day and having a huge meal for about $12, all the while being called “Sugar” or “Darlin’” by the waitress.

Bishop on June 20, 2011 at 10:16 PM

GoobEttes,thats GoonEttes,ugh!

canopfor on June 20, 2011 at 10:18 PM

A well educated Yankee who is in a union is about half as productive as a dumb hillbilly.

Really Right on June 20, 2011 at 10:22 PM

Will Obama ever quit finding ways at increasing costs and reducing the number of jobs?

CW on June 20, 2011 at 10:27 PM

Have they seen what is coming out of Detroit lately; not exactly Dixieland up there in Michigan.

Bishop on June 20, 2011 at 10:11 PM

I beg to differ, sir!! Look at the accomplishments of our unionized northern workers in the fair city of Detroit. Their narcotic needs alone keep the drug industries in Mexico and Afghanistan rolling at full throttle. Their incompetence has made auto giants out of Japan and Korea. And their $75 salary-cum-benefits has turned the city synonymous with production and industrial energy into a Stalingrad-like wasteland of gutted buildings and packs of semi-feral dogs.

MaiDee on June 20, 2011 at 10:33 PM

Well I heard Mr. Geoghegan writing about us. Well I heard old Thomas putting us down. Well I hope Mr. Geoghegan will remember. Southern man don’t need him around.

radjah shelduck on June 20, 2011 at 10:41 PM

Leaving aside the author’s gratuitous comments toward Southerners (who BTW may sometimes seem less educated, but are seldom rude, unless provoked), I wonder if there really is much of a disparity between union wages in Washington state and non-union wages in South Carolina when cost-of-living is considered?

Another question, as I said Southerners sometimes seem less educated, but, in the past, when the economy turned bad ‘down heah’ (post-War of Northern Aggression, the Dust-bowl, the Great Depression, etc.), a lot of Southerners left (indeed now that things are better here, some – at least some of their children – are coming back ‘home’ now -from places like Chicago, I might add). Do non-Southerners never leave their beloved states to find a better living for themselves and their families, or are they too smart to do that?

Knott Buyinit on June 20, 2011 at 10:42 PM

WSJ is to be applauded for its determination to feature different viewpoints, but Geoghegan’s piece certainly pushes the envelope.

If you think that’s bad, wait till you read the Keyesian Economics apologist op-ed they’re running tomorrow, I read the column when it posted a couple of hours ago and couldn’t get past the first paragraph.

Rogue on June 20, 2011 at 10:43 PM

Imagine how dumb we look to the rest of the world.

IlikedAUH2O on June 20, 2011 at 9:45 PM

I shudder to think of it, so I choose not to. The past seventeen years of the Obama presidency had laid me flat.

Well, it seems like seventeen years. As of today we are 60.41% through his time as POTUS.

disa on June 20, 2011 at 10:45 PM

Between Duke, Georgia Tech, Emory, Vanderbilt – tons of dumb people getting educated down here…

Odie1941 on June 20, 2011 at 10:47 PM

This just proves what I have stated for years. These Yankee scum are nothing but a bunch hypocrites, racist, & liberal ignorant hicks!

Confederate on June 20, 2011 at 10:50 PM

I feel like playing the race card here, since it’s been done so much to me.

The South has a higher percentage of black workers than most northern states, or CA. My Texas city is majority Hispanic, so I bet the wonderful Toyota trucks that are built here are largely built by Hispanics. Is he trying to say that blacks and Hispanics are dumb? That’s how I read it.

juliesa on June 20, 2011 at 10:55 PM

Good point about the aerospace plants in the DFW area. They go back many decades. My husband built f-111s in Fort Worth to earn his way through college in the late 60s but the industry was there long before that.

juliesa on June 20, 2011 at 11:00 PM

I see Bkeyser beat me to it on the race thing. Good stats on the racial makeup.

juliesa on June 20, 2011 at 11:04 PM

I’m sure we’ll be hearing from the NAACP, oh, any minute now…

Eren on June 20, 2011 at 11:05 PM

I got sick and tired of having 100 points taken off my IQ just because I had a southern accent decades ago.

Just A Grunt on June 20, 2011 at 10:15 PM

Next time a Leftist hurls the “NASCAR” slur at you, just remind them of the following:

1. Auto Racing was invented by the French.

2. Years after his death, Leftist icon Paul Newman’s name is still on the world-famous racing team he started decades ago.

3. NASCAR races, as well as auto races in general, are held in just as many Blue States as Red States. Many of the biggest events are held in Chuckie Schumer’s state, and Fast Eddie Rendell’s state, and even in Illinois. Plenty of races in CA as well.

Del Dolemonte on June 20, 2011 at 11:11 PM

Hmmm… the same NLRB, headed by an anti-US citizen worker, Obama appointee, the same Obama who sends untold millions of US citizen jobs overseas, and displaces highly educated and skilled US citizen engineers, with extremely uneducated, unskilled cheap foreign workers, Obama imports between 65K to 125K visa workers each month, and has brought millions of them to the US since he took the presidency, even restricting all tech federal worker hires to H1B’s (so there’s no chance a loyal US citizen would see what’s going on and perhaps be a whistleblower, exposing the traitorous Obama administration)

They’ve got a lot of nerve.

Ceolas on June 20, 2011 at 11:23 PM

I’m a mechanical engineer working in manufacturing here in South Carolina. (Caterpillar is just down the street, but I work @ a different company)

I’ve also worked in auto manufacturing in Ohio, with a totally unionized work force.

I’d take the stuff we churn out down “heah” over the union crap any day. There’s a reason we smart yankees have been moving south so much lately. The unions are killing all the industries up north.

CambellBrown on June 20, 2011 at 11:27 PM

There are plenty of non-UAW auto plants in the South as well, and cars aren’t flying apart on the highways as a result.

pseudoforce on June 20, 2011 at 9:29 PM

No, it takes the proud UAW workers of Flat Rock, MI to do that. Plus, they have a new motto — put a spider in your tank!

unclesmrgol on June 20, 2011 at 11:50 PM

Lockheed has had a manufacturing plant in Georgia for at least 50 years…

Just A Grunt on June 20, 2011 at 10:15 PM

More than that. I’m an ex-Buffalonian, and I know that Bell Aircraft built a plant in Murietta, GA in the early 1940′s to build the B-29 (the Buffalo plant built fighter planes; my grandmother worked there). Lockheed took over the Georga plant over around the time of the Korean war, and last I noticed it was still operating. That makes the plant about 70 years old.

unclesmrgol on June 20, 2011 at 11:59 PM

Much of the defense and aerospace industries have moved out of California, mostly to the south. They’ve been building rockets in Huntsville, Alabama for a few generations now. So there’s no question that manufacturing companies can produce quality goods in the US south. Still, the auto companies that have located plants in the deep south are not entirely thrilled with the quality coming out of those plants. While Honda did locate a plant in Alabama, most of their US built vehicles, Accords and Civics, are assembled in Ohio and Indiana.

Boeing has the right to open up that factory in South Carolina, no question.

Still, just because the UAW and the Machinists’ union exist doesn’t mean that Washington state and Michigan should necessarily be scratched off companies’ short lists of where to locate manufacturing sites. I live in the Detroit area and there are a lot very talented and hard working people around here.

There’s a special place in hell for the first mayor or governor who offered some kind of subsidy or incentive for a business to locate or relocate in their jurisdiction. Now Sears is making noises that now that their incentives and tax abatements are expiring they might move their HQ from suburban Chicago to the Washington, D.C. area.

rokemronnie on June 21, 2011 at 12:21 AM

Another 120 Miles south down I-85 you will find the tobacco road inbreds who built the B-29s, and then the C-130s the C-5As and F-22s in a hick town where you will also find a world class engineering school that teaches a student body from the entire world how to build at the highest level of disciplined skills yet known. The small airport in that rural southern town has also long been the busiest one in the USA, surpassing the distant second Chicago O’Hare. This display of utter ignorance must really shame the people who write such propaganda for money.

jimw on June 21, 2011 at 12:22 AM

25 years ago I left SC to live in Cal with my new wife. When applying for a job, I was appalled at the regional prejudice I ran into. Nobody wanted to see my college transcript or hear that I was #1 in my high school class. They were convinced I was a rube (I had no accent) as soon as they saw my paperwork.

I learned that a moron is a moron regardless of skin color or state of origin. A Stanford fan has just as much chance of being a prejudiced fool as a Clemson fan does–if not moreso.

rwenger43 on June 21, 2011 at 12:30 AM

We should be aghast that Boeing is sending a big fat market signal that it wants a less-skilled, lower-quality work force.”

That’s real funny, considering my experience as Personnel Mgr for our local census office: we did our best to hire the most qualified applicants (by a variety of standards, some of them bogus) but then wouldn’t let them use their skills to do the job. The US Government does its best to dumb down its own employees, so if Boeing wants either to dumb down its employees or build them up in a very specific training program, what gives the NLRB province to criticize Boeing? Boeing’s workers produce more in a day than any government worker.

rwenger43 on June 21, 2011 at 12:45 AM

My son who has a PHD in Mechanical Engineering moved to SC six years ago. He works for one of those sucky manufacturing companies there. For some strange reason they pay him quite a bit of money.

Dasher on June 21, 2011 at 12:55 AM

It’s a meltdown. So many things are now manufactured in the poorly educated, low-skilled South, it’s a wonder you’re not dead yet.

Heh!!

..yea..it’s to bad we can’t be shining examples of financial prosperity and social progress like the broke a$$,crime ridden states of New York,Michigan,and California.

Baxter Greene on June 21, 2011 at 1:02 AM

Isn’t Huntsville Alabaman Rockettown USA.

Slowburn on June 21, 2011 at 1:50 AM

All this shows is that the NLRB should be dispensed with at the earliest opportunity.

trigon on June 21, 2011 at 3:01 AM

The writer of the WSJ article is ignorant. I worked for a number of years for a healthcare company that had a sterile fill operation in SC. The plant – 15 years ago! – was the fastest, most sophisticated sterile fill operation of its kind in the US. Some of the best packaging engineers from schools like Purdue worked there delivering uncompromising quality.

By the way, Michelen’s North American HQ is in SC. Geoghegan probably drives on their tires in his BMW made in SC.

jdflorida on June 21, 2011 at 3:07 AM

I got sick and tired of having 100 points taken off my IQ just because I had a southern accent decades ago.

Just A Grunt on June 20, 2011 at 10:15 PM

I share in your experience there. Leaving the South to attend college in the North, I was literally laughed at whenever I’d say “ya’ll” to any group of two or more among other noticeable Southern accented statements.

It’s just as prejudiced about the South out West, unfortunately, on the West Coast. Though I don’t recall any prejudice in this regard in the Rocky Mountains where I lived, when later out West on the Coast, I actually took dialect classes to drop the Southern accent.

Now, gone, but whenever I go back to Texas or Florida, or Georgia or North Carolina, the accent returns nearly immediately. THEN I leave again and go back and have to go through the ridicule all over again until I can drop it again.

People outside the South do have a demonstrative prejudice about a Southern accent, assuming wrongly that the accent indicates stupidity. I admit it, though, I often find myself thinking that same thing whenever I hear a Jersey accent or a frickn’ CHICAGO one: say coffee, for Heaven’s sake, not CAWWPHEE.

Lourdes on June 21, 2011 at 4:11 AM

Funny story: driving my nephews home from the movies while visiting in Georgia, one of my nephews burst out, “look, Aunt (my name here), thar’s a LIKE, thar’s a LIKE…”

And I said, “a light? A light? Speak English, child!”

And he said, “no, a LIKE, like you SWEEYUM in!”

He meant, “a lake.”

Lourdes on June 21, 2011 at 4:13 AM

Dang! The Yanks are on to us. There goes our plan to kill them all off by sabotaging them with defective car and airplane parts. Since we are too poor for air travel and only drive model T’s a la the Clampetts we are not at high risk.

That was sarcasm for any Yanks out there who don’t get it. I lived in the North and it is amazing how truly ignorant many Northerners are. These ignorant, backward Northern ‘rubes’ actually are stuck in a mental time warp. It allows them to indulge their bigotries. I can only imagine how they actually feel about Black Americans- still. I never heard the ‘N’ word more than when I lived in the North.

Martin Luther King said in 1966:

“The racism and segregation in Chicago is worse than anything I have ever seen in the South.” On camera interview during Chicago open housing march.

That quote is just the tip of the iceberg regarding Northerners and their numerous prejudices, but you will not hear about it generally since they prefer to coverup such unflattering traits.

JimP on June 21, 2011 at 4:43 AM

Congress needs to slash the funding at the NLRB, and reign in their over reach.

karenhasfreedom on June 21, 2011 at 6:21 AM

Hey Chicago Boy. Know how them South Carolinians attract skilled labor from the rust belt and snow belt?

Golf. Damn right. You can play all twelve months of the year. Try that in Seattle, numbnuts.

Come on down! Stay awhile! We ‘preciate it.

BigAlSouth on June 21, 2011 at 6:54 AM

Nice article J.E.

It wasn’t too many years ago that a “yankee” asked me confidentially if it was true that we still really have slaves in the South. No kidding. And later asked if we really rode horses to work. Yet another moved south from NY state and said he was surprised to see people wearing shoes.

“The Beverly Hillbillies” TV show did nothing for the image of the south, just lined some lib pockets while bringing a few laughs.

Robert17 on June 21, 2011 at 7:09 AM

I hope Goeghegan never needs doctor at Duke. Those hicks are are as dumb as rocks. [/sarc]

GT on June 21, 2011 at 7:25 AM

And what was the functional literacy rate in Detroit? 43%

Just another stupid “Southern” city.
and was this columnist saying Southern or high percentage black americans? I think this was actually a racial comment.

barnone on June 21, 2011 at 8:17 AM

What a Chicago Moron. Reminder of engineering centers in “the south’

NASA’s Johnson Spaceflight Center, Marshall Space Center, Stennis Space Center, Kennedy Spaceflight Center, Wallop Island, etc.

Home of GISS, the clueless and incompetent home of AGW – NY City.

The list of military research installations is even longer.

As usual, our slow southern draw confuses those fast thinking Yanks every time.

AJStrata on June 21, 2011 at 8:18 AM

Who was it that screwed up our economy and had to be bailed out by us taxpayers?

AIG – New York
Citigroup – New York
JPMorganChase – New York
General Motors – Detroit
Chrysler – Detroit
GMAC – Detroit

Funny, I don’t see a Southern company on that list.

rockmom on June 21, 2011 at 8:28 AM

I’m seeing a lot more of this type of bigotry from the left.

John Deaux on June 21, 2011 at 8:50 AM

Stop funding NLRB. It is a useful as the UN.

Wade on June 21, 2011 at 10:02 AM

WSJ is to be applauded for its determination to feature different viewpoints, but Geoghegan’s piece certainly pushes the envelope.

I’m glad the WSJ published this. I want to see the bigotry and ignorance of the Left. The more exposed it is, the better. It’s the best way to take it down.

rbj on June 21, 2011 at 10:07 AM

Deer Thomas Geoghegan,

MIT is known as the Georgia Tech of the North. True fact.

I R A Darth Aggie on June 21, 2011 at 10:07 AM

Repeat after me: “The Democratic party is the party of bigotry. Democrats are bigots.”

Say this often. Say it everywhere. It is true, and it is relevant.

They hate southerners, they hate conservatives, and especially, they hate Christians. They hate blacks and women who leave the reservation. They hate anybody who does not believe more or less like they do, and they hate anybody who reduces their power. They hate. It’s one of the few things they do well.

philwynk on June 21, 2011 at 10:15 AM

That arrogant moron deserves nothing more than a punch in the nose. And he got it. Where do these people come from?

ultracon on June 21, 2011 at 10:18 AM

As a Texan and a Southerner, I’d say that Geoghegan is full of shit. At least we don’t have a bunch of idiot potheads working in plants down here, like at Chrysler’s Jefferson North plant in Detroit.

Ward Cleaver on June 21, 2011 at 10:21 AM

Hey Geoghegan… a lot of MIT students would not get into Georgia Tech…

ultracon on June 21, 2011 at 10:22 AM

That arrogant moron deserves nothing more than a punch in the nose. And he got it. Where do these people come from?

ultracon on June 21, 2011 at 10:18 AM

Harvard Law School. The guy ran in the Dem primary for Rahm Emmanuel’s House seat, after Emmanuel went to DC to be with Dear Liar. He lost.

Ward Cleaver on June 21, 2011 at 10:29 AM

Glad to see this piece J.E. I couldn’t believe my eyes when I s read this WSJ piece yesterday.

ptcamn on June 21, 2011 at 11:18 AM

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