Gunwalker: The Fast and Furious scandal expands Update: Gun control lobby involved?
posted at 1:20 pm on June 20, 2011 by Jazz Shaw
Over the last week we’ve given you a couple of reports on the emerging scandal surrounding the ATF’s disastrously handled Operation Fast and Furious, also known as Operation Gunwalker. Over the weekend, Pajamas Media (where they have been doing a bang-up job breaking and covering this story) brought forth more damning details coming from Darrell Issa’s investigation. In particular, some of the comments from whistle-blowers inside the ATF have been beyond alarming.
Page 27: [Special Agent John Dodson, the original whistle blower]
“Well, every time we voiced concerns…But every day being out here watching a guy go into the same gun store buying another 15 or 20 AK-47s or variants or . . . five or ten Draco pistols or FN Five-seveNs . . . guys that don’t have a job, and he is walking in here spending $27,000 for three Barrett .50 calibers …and you are sitting there every day and you can’t do anything…”
Page 38: [Dodson, speaking about ATF supervisors in Phoenix and their disregard for lives lost due to Fast & Furious]
“[T]here was a prevailing attitude amongst the group and outside of the group in the ATF chain of command… I was having a conversation with Special Agent [L] about the case in which the conversation ended with me asking her are you prepared to go to a border agent’s funeral over this… because that’s going to happen. And the sentiment that was given back to me by both her, the group supervisor, was that…if you are going to make an omelette [sic], you need to scramble some eggs.”
There’s more at the link, so check out the entire thing. At this point it’s difficult to believe that this isn’t going to end very badly for a lot of the players involved. While the old school media was slow off the mark on this story, by this morning even the Morning Joe crew was covering it at MSNBC, so the lid seems to be well and truly off the pot.
The unresolved questions at this stage seem to be less about how this was screwed up so badly, but rather who authorized this debacle and how high up the food chain it goes. As Ed Morrissey already noted, it looks like the president will be tossing acting head of the ATF, Kenneth Melson under the bus. But given the scope of this scandal, the horrific damage which resulted (including the loss of American agents’ lives) and the sheer stupidity of the plan, well…
I think you’re going to need a bigger bus.
UPDATE: Also at PJM, Bob Owens has yet another update. Was this a move to boost up the gun control lobby?
The obvious answer is that Gunwalker’s objective was never intended to be a “legitimate law enforcement interest.” Instead, it appears that ATF Acting Director Ken Melson and Department of Justice senior executives specifically created an operation that was designed from the outset to arm Mexican narco-terrorists and increase violence substantially along both sides of the Southwest border.
Success was measured not by the number of criminals being incarcerated, but by the number of weapons transiting the border and the violence those weapons caused. An ATF manager was “delighted” when Gunwalker guns started showing up at drug busts. It would be entirely consistent with this theory if DOJ communications reflected the approval of the ATF senior officials they were colluding with — but as we know, Holder’s Department of Justice refuses to cooperate.
ALSO: While this may look like the “Gong” show, the word was “going” as noted in the comments. Corrected.









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“The sheer stupidity of this plan”
The whole strategy reminds me of the South Park Underpants Gnomes..
moc23 on June 20, 2011 at 2:21 PM
Could this be what Barry meant when he said they were working on gun control “under the radar?”
RedNewEnglander on June 20, 2011 at 2:21 PM
I’ve just registered operationgunwalker.com (couldn’t believe it was still available). I’ll have something up in the next couple of days.
RedWinged Blackbird on June 20, 2011 at 2:21 PM
GunGate. Disgusting.
4Freedom on June 20, 2011 at 2:21 PM
Anyone remember this? Now it starts to make sense, hey?
MikeA on June 20, 2011 at 2:23 PM
Great job, Bob Owens.
It’s about time someone shredded the logic of the phony law enforcement motivation. Looking forward to your next piece!
Extraneus on June 20, 2011 at 2:24 PM
Occam’s Razor.
a capella on June 20, 2011 at 2:24 PM
ATF wasn’t immune either, I recall towards the end of this psychotic episode that 2 AFT agents who went over the border in a chase were ‘quickly’ (and I mean very quickly) ambushed and shot. Now that incident at the time was very fishy to me, and I come back to it now.
I wonder what they ‘knew’.?
Or who they knew.?
This whole administration needs to be in jail.
orbitalair on June 20, 2011 at 2:26 PM
So let me get this straight. The anti-gun lobby, in an effort to get stricter gun laws, had the ATF provide guns to Mexican drug cartels? And the ATF did this, even though clearly it could lead directly to the deaths of Americans?
As a wise man once said “by their fruits, you shall know them.”
hawksruleva on June 20, 2011 at 2:26 PM
Typical radical leftist thinking. Sacrifices have to be made (by others, of course) to further the agenda.
Not unlike the SDS orchestrating the Kent State shooting that left a bunch of useful idiots dead in Ohio in 1970. Backing the green National Guard troops into a corner and making them fear for their lives was the goal of the SDS chess-players, and it got what they wanted: a rallying cry for the “movement.”
These people need to be stopped before the “sacrifices” get way bigger.
iurockhead on June 20, 2011 at 2:27 PM
I’m sure Melson will be made at least as big a villain by the media as Oliver North was.
/s
hawksruleva on June 20, 2011 at 2:28 PM
Allow me to be more precise in my comment…
I still haven’t heard anyone articulate a credible reason for instituting the “Fast and Furious” program in the first place– whether an agency rep, an administration official, or any of their shills in the MSM…
Lorien, I understand we’re starting to speculate this was a scheme to justify more gun control but I want to hear “their” explantion when we ask “WTF was this all supposed to be about??”
Youngs98 on June 20, 2011 at 2:28 PM
It’s not under the radar now, is it.
Or wait, maybe it is. I don’t imagine you’ll see the MSM lead their newscasts with this story, will you.
Vyce on June 20, 2011 at 2:28 PM
Agree. How and why this program got off the ground is a start to get these lying scumbags thrown in jail… which of course is why there is stonewalling… for them to get the “why” out of the gate “correctly”…
Odie1941 on June 20, 2011 at 2:31 PM
The President is directly engaged and 90% of the guns in Mexico come from this country and Hillary wants to stop the guns? Hmmmm.
Speakup on June 20, 2011 at 2:31 PM
Seems in retrospect that BarryO’s reference to the “90% coming from American gunshops” was a reference to the guns the ATF was required to allow to flow into Mexico. And therefore his implicit knowledge of the events, thus the conspiracy.
Robert17 on June 20, 2011 at 2:32 PM
Hey Bob and Jazz… please don’t forget to use this in your next blog.
Remember the Dept of Justice PDF on who was buying what types of rifles and such for entities like the Dept of Education….for enforcement authority.
I think this is possibly a link.
upinak on June 20, 2011 at 2:32 PM
I preferred Gillette until they discontinued the MicroTrac.
Lanceman on June 20, 2011 at 2:32 PM
Yes. It’s in Owens’ column linked in the update just under his headline. I think I quoted it in a comment on page 1.
INC on June 20, 2011 at 2:33 PM
This is right up there (or maybe I should say down there) with the Waco debacle. The level of incompetence and disregard for common sense and reason is mind boggling.
Yakko77 on June 20, 2011 at 2:34 PM
Thanks, I was afraid you were wondering why we were investigating this…
right2bright on June 20, 2011 at 2:35 PM
correction: They were ICE agents. (not ATF)
http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2011/02/two-ice-agents-shot-in-mexico.html
I should have looked it up first.
orbitalair on June 20, 2011 at 2:35 PM
Now it begins to make sense. Allowing more guns to be sold, hoping for more violence to ensue…and then clamping down on gun manufacture, sales and ownership. This sounds more like the Obama admin that we’ve all come to know and love than the law enforcement angle.
jakev on June 20, 2011 at 2:35 PM
Well, that’s where it all falls apart for them. Any explanation they try to make is impeached by the fact they didn’t follow the guns. They can’t offer a credible explanation,..which is why the hidden agenda of gun control, primed by administration top officials about U.S. originated gun violence in Mexico, starts to jump out at us.
a capella on June 20, 2011 at 2:35 PM
We need to call for a special investigator, no way should they be allowed to investigate themselves…
tinkerthinker on June 20, 2011 at 2:35 PM
The more I read about this, the more I’m convinced that a lot of people don’t just need to lose their jobs, they should be in jail. This is outright criminal.
Yakko77 on June 20, 2011 at 2:36 PM
Yes, but the difference is Dems dont have a religion to bash as “agressiuve nutjobs” with dead Border Patrol Agents… or do they?
I would not put it past this admin to paint anyone as “rogue”…
Odie1941 on June 20, 2011 at 2:36 PM
This is worse…this would be more like arming the mafia so they will kill each other and we wouldn’t have to?
Actually there is little comparison you can make, it is so outlandish.
Waco was the whole “secret society” thing, after a few years of “secret society” going rogue, not justified but understandable from a gov. perspective.
This is giving the enemy guns to kill our own people…
right2bright on June 20, 2011 at 2:38 PM
Keep everyone involved in this case away from Fort Marcy Park.
teke184 on June 20, 2011 at 2:38 PM
Screw that, too much time and political bias to get anything substantial done.
Let Congress continue to act as they are; there isnt a Dem alive who can defend anything about this program publically. They need to go for the jugular now
Odie1941 on June 20, 2011 at 2:38 PM
The ATF helped out with that one, also. They need to be disbanded. Paramilitary cowboys(not the good kind of cowboy).
a capella on June 20, 2011 at 2:38 PM
American agents dead, as in dead, and some BATF jackwagon who was involved in making those deaths happen is going to be allowed to resign and move on.
I hope Issa finds some document somewhere with PBHO’s signature on it which shows his involvement and culpability with this colossally stupid scheme. Let’s see PBHO try to explain THAT in a televised presidential debate.
Bishop on June 20, 2011 at 2:39 PM
ATF: Always Think Forfeiture
fossten on June 20, 2011 at 2:41 PM
Exactly. I want people behind bars, not just in the unemployment line.
Yakko77 on June 20, 2011 at 2:44 PM
Let’s just hope that more than 50% of the voting population gives a damn.
They can’t enslave if if we are all armed huh?
CCRWM on June 20, 2011 at 2:44 PM
It seemed rather obvious from the outset that this was another way to justify gun control measures through numbers of guns found south of the border or in criminals hands.
Its awfully hard for the current laws on the books to work if they are actively disregarded to “scramble a few eggs”
Koa on June 20, 2011 at 2:46 PM
This is pretty clearly an attempt to show that gun shops can’t be trusted and need to be shut down. But the same thing would happen if the police didn’t constantly check stores and bars for underage drinking. It’s their job to enforce the law to keep store owner’s honest. Anyone who knew about this and didn’t complain to their superior should be held as criminally liable RICO conspirator.
pedestrian on June 20, 2011 at 2:46 PM
Damn!
a capella on June 20, 2011 at 2:46 PM
It makes you think what else is going on behind Obowma’s closed doors…
… I always thought that when it was time for Obowma to leave office, the doors of the White House would swing wide open and all of his Czars would rush out yelling in unison”
Seven Percent Solution on June 20, 2011 at 2:46 PM
From Drudge link.
Traver was one of the reasons the House did not adjourn, so as to deny Obama a recess appointment. Wonder how long he can serve as “acting director.” He’s a gun control advocate.
Wethal on June 20, 2011 at 3:05 PM
Is there any other type in the BATF?
Bishop on June 20, 2011 at 3:07 PM
Yeah that’s a bit redundant; you won’t find an NRA member as a branch head of the
Gun PoliceBATFE.fossten on June 20, 2011 at 3:09 PM
I think the hearing about his nomination will come up VERY shortly if he’s installed as acting director and it will be used as a club to bludgeon the crap out of Holder, Traver, and Obama, amongst others.
teke184 on June 20, 2011 at 3:09 PM
Jazz and Bob – thank you for your continued coverage.
perries on June 20, 2011 at 3:11 PM
Nothing happens in Washington without funding…
… Who authorized the funding “Fast and Furious”? Who’s budget was it included in?
Follow the money boy and girls…
Seven Percent Solution on June 20, 2011 at 3:18 PM
I don’t know if an acting director needs to be confirmed in a hearing. (Melson was acting because Travers could not get confirmed.)
Issa can subpeona Travers, but I assume Travers will plead ignorance (“Hey, I’m new here. That was before my time.”) on Gunwalker.
BTW, Daily Caller reports ATF has thousands of documents in MD that it hasn’t turned over to Issa. ATF is going through them (no doubt with big black markers in a CYA procedure).
Wethal on June 20, 2011 at 3:19 PM
Yup.
Only in a twisted mind like BO’s.
Badger40 on June 20, 2011 at 3:20 PM
I’m talking about Travers’ nomination as full director of the agency, NOT his becoming acting director.
They were intentionally blocking this guy and Holder’s pulling an end-around, so you know that’s going to piss them off, especially since the ATF is such a mess.
teke184 on June 20, 2011 at 3:25 PM
Would anyone be surprised to learn that the DoJ or ATF provided funds for these illegal purchases?
I think it’s a possibility.
countrybumpkin on June 20, 2011 at 3:32 PM
I thought Obama was holding off pushing for Travers because the votes just weren’t there to confirm.
This could be some kind of fake “We’ve cleaned house. Melson is gone. Let’s move on” move to try to kill this issue before 2012.
I’d like to see Melson in front of the committee. If he takes the Fifth now, Issa would have to consider giving him immunity to see if he’d finger higher-ups.
One wonders what Melson is being told to say and what, if anything, he’s been promised to take the fall. If he doesn’t take the fall, he’s dismissed as a disgruntled former employee fired for incompetence. Nothing to see here; move along…
Wethal on June 20, 2011 at 3:34 PM
The votes aren’t there… but that doesn’t mean that a group of 60 Senators couldn’t push for him to come up and get rejected.
This story is a hot potato and there are a lot of Dems in red states like Mary Landrieu, Ozzie and Harriet Nelson (Ben and Bill), etc., who don’t want to be on record having supported a guy who is a gun-grabbing Chicago thug when their constituents are very pro-2nd Amendment.
teke184 on June 20, 2011 at 3:36 PM
This.
The DOJ has shown themselves to be untrustworthy on so many levels. Only an independent investigator with some real teeth to get at the truth can get to the bottom of this.
iurockhead on June 20, 2011 at 3:46 PM
That would be a bad move. He would lie through his teeth if he thought he could get away with it.
Offer a plea bargain, with a much heftier punishment for not cooperating. No blanket immunity.
iurockhead on June 20, 2011 at 3:49 PM
I bet nothing will happen.
Why would it?
Nothing has happened so far to this crowd.
Badger40 on June 20, 2011 at 3:55 PM
If Melson lied under a grant of immunity, he could still be prosecuted for perjury. (Yes, I know, that prosecution would have to wait until 2013, and a new AG.)
Wethal on June 20, 2011 at 3:57 PM
test
cmsinaz on June 20, 2011 at 4:02 PM
atf dude to resign…via drudge
cmsinaz on June 20, 2011 at 4:03 PM
USBP Agent Brian Terry’s family must be outraged at the cavalier attitude of the ATF that directly resulted in Terry’s murder.
BigAlSouth on June 20, 2011 at 4:08 PM
This should result in life sentences for everyone involved. Nothing less.
KMC1 on June 20, 2011 at 4:17 PM
I think Issa should subpoena Special Agent L.
Wethal on June 20, 2011 at 4:19 PM
Insidious and sickening! What else is Obama capable of?
JellyToast on June 20, 2011 at 4:25 PM
As bad as you can imagine, Obama can do much worse
Roy Rogers on June 20, 2011 at 4:27 PM
As I have said from the beginning, and I’m not the only one making the point. There was NO WAY letting guns “walk” advanced any prosecution in any way. Bring down a cartel?
Ridiculous.
This project was dreamed up after a heap big pow-wow of DOJ and Fed LE senior officials. They decided they had to think bigger if they were going to bring down cartels, and essentially told field supervisors that identifying “networks” was more important than stopping individual straw sales.
Now if you are a liberal political appointee type, it is probably Revealed Truth, unquestionable, that the cartels have big coordinated networks of gunrunners dedicated to smuggling US guns across the border. Only it isn’t so. Why would cartels pay a premium for US semi-autos when the price of a surplus Soviet block full auto AK-47 is so much cheaper on the black market? The trafficking in US guns across the border isn’t some giant conspiracy, but hundreds of smaller fringe operators who don’t have the same access to weapons the cartels do. Of course, if you send thousands of them across the border, some will turn up at cartel crime scenes.
Now I suppose if you are a BATF supervisor or an Assistant US Attorney with little to no street experience who actually believes there is some huge and coordinated network out there, and you took that instruction about identifying the network instead of interdicting sales seriously, you might come up with something as stupid as gunrunner if you were a blithering idiot with no regard for human life. You might want to follow that straw purchaser until you find out where he or she is really getting the big number of guns, identifying the “network’s” big source. You might not care about guns purchased from dealers who are helping you; in fact, stopping those guns even after the straw purchaser passed them on might tip off your quarry. You are after the big outlaw dealer.
Only there isn’t a big outlaw dealer. No big cartel coordinated network, either.
It is generally unwise to attribute to malice that which can be explained by incompetence. In this case the level of incompetence that would have to be assumed makes malice appear to be more likely. In any case, incompetence or corruption in the Phoenix BATF or US Attorney’s offices cannot justify the approvals that obviously came from higher ups. They can’t be excused by claiming they didn’t know what was going on.
What was going on may well have been criminal. Also as predicted, Mexican authorities are preparing to investigate the possibility that crimes against Mexican law were committed by BATF or DOJ officials. Barring a special prosecutor, I doubt there will be any criminal prosecutions here, and I don’t see how Mexican authorities would have criminal jurisdiction. No doubt there will be serious diplomatic fallout.
But I do expect major civil suits to be filed on behalf of the victims and families of victims shot by guns the DOJ and the BATF let “walk”.
novaculus on June 20, 2011 at 4:33 PM
I am waiting to see articles of impeachment for accessory to murder and arms trafficking.
crosspatch on June 20, 2011 at 4:37 PM
Of course it is! Thats what we’ve been saying for months.
tx2654 on June 20, 2011 at 4:48 PM
We play “What if this were George Bush” all the time in this Presidency, but how about “What if this were Ronald Reagan”?
The answer: someone would be called to testify on the Hill and would be required to ask questions about who approved the whole transaction. Prosecutions would follow.
Only the media can turn Gunwalker into Iran-contra, but the similarities are there.
Selkirk on June 20, 2011 at 4:50 PM
So when do the law enforcement agents of California, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas start kicking in local Justice Department doors, seizing files, and putting some well deserving folks in well made cages?
Limerick on June 20, 2011 at 4:51 PM
Put the NRA-ILA in charge of the investigation, give them subpoena power, and watch the sparks fly.
infidel4life on June 20, 2011 at 4:52 PM
The thing that really gets me is that the cartels can get FA AK’s for about half-price of what a SA AK costs in the US… and the cost of ‘delivery’ (that is sending someone to pick them up off the dock) is about the same as getting someone to the US. So why pay more for costly semi’s when you can be getting either new Chinese or second-hand surplus at a discount? And why the Barretts? It isn’t like these guys are trained snipers and there are cheaper arms available for material disposal.
Basically, who is paying off the cartels to buy higher cost, higher risk weapons from the US when the black market has lots of cheaper and nastier arms available? Why pay more for less? The fishiness of this is rank beyond the selling, beyond the intimidation and beyond the deaths: I am having this sneaking suspicion that we are also bribing the cartels to buy these guns…
ajacksonian on June 20, 2011 at 4:59 PM
Maybe this was what the President was referring to a couple of ago, in his comments to the Bradys, when he said his administration is hard at work promoting gun control, but they were doing it “under the radar”.
MTF on June 20, 2011 at 5:05 PM
Every supporter of the 2nd that can afford to should now purchase another firearm, or at least stock up on additional ammo. Another surge in purchases, similar to the one that occurred in 2008, is needed to get the attention of the administration and the BATF.
You who haven’t done so, or never would consider such purchases, may want to reconsider.
Tell the dealer or the retail outlet that your purchase is driven by concern regarding the BATF, and that you plan additional purchases. Let the administration know that you are aware of their intentions and are reacting out of concern for your freedom.
Let them know that there are a huge number of bitter clingers out here. Outraged, also. In addition they may need to watch the sales of Bibles.
Yoop on June 20, 2011 at 5:11 PM
Talk about a willing suspension of disbelief.
MississippiMom on June 20, 2011 at 5:13 PM
Thanks to O’bama and his Party’s carefully planned wholesale destruction of the US private sector, all I can afford is a water gun.
Del Dolemonte on June 20, 2011 at 5:14 PM
Don’t forget that while the ATF was allowing guns to walk to Mexico, that our federal govt came out to AZ and plasted big a$$ signs up in the desert warning us about the dangers of traveling in certain areas, due to armed criminals and human and drug smuggling, etc.
There are too many agencies involved for Obama not to have known about this. If Bush had done this, the MSM would be screaming for impeachment or resignation.
GrannySunni on June 20, 2011 at 5:17 PM
The big difference, IMHO, is that I don’t think the Dems have anyone on hand who can play Ollie North and sell this sh!t sandwich as being in the country’s interest.
teke184 on June 20, 2011 at 5:21 PM
To hell the a special prosecutor. To hell with a Congressional investigation.
Where are the Attornies General of TX, AZ, NM, and CA? Which has tossed anything to a Grand Jury? No way in hell this gun running operation only squashed federal law.
Limerick on June 20, 2011 at 5:22 PM
WTF is it with Democrat Presidents and the ATF? They both seem to love to team up and kill American citizens whether its Waco, Idaho, or Mexico.
chickasaw42 on June 20, 2011 at 5:30 PM
Anyone involved will get a gold parachute instead of an orange jumpsuit.
mad saint jack on June 20, 2011 at 5:31 PM
Was he also delighted when he saw the narcos killing Mexican Federal Police by the hundreds every year? Was he delighted when those families lost husbands and fathers to people who weren’t corrupt or who actually tried to fight them?
Rambotito on June 20, 2011 at 5:31 PM
Yes, until he realized that people were getting wind of what was going on after an ICE agent and a Border Patrol agent both got killed, with at least one of them being forced to take on heavily armed cartel members with a beanbag shotgun.
teke184 on June 20, 2011 at 5:36 PM
Ruby Ridge was under George H.W. Bush.
You know the one that gave us Souter.
clement on June 20, 2011 at 5:38 PM
Just eggs for the omelet. /s
Yoop on June 20, 2011 at 5:52 PM
ajacksonian on June 20, 2011 at 4:59 PM
Hmmm…the plot thickens. Interesting info.
bitsy on June 20, 2011 at 5:55 PM
NO, threaten to put a rope around his neck and kick the chair out from under him, then listen to what he says. My preference however would be to go ahead and hang him….then ask the others IF they have something to add to the conversation/evidence pile…as you line them up to be next.
They’ll start squawking.
It has reached the time when Good must be brutal in dealing with these Communist types. We cannot allow Evil to win here.
As a earlier poster said, getting the ‘network’ or the weapons makes no sense. The cartels can get full auto AK47s from Africa, Somalia or Yemen for like $8 each when you buy a shipload of them.
No this scam was all about getting American guns over the border for other reasons. Ask yourself WHY did they have to be American guns…???
orbitalair on June 20, 2011 at 6:00 PM
Good advice! Get yourselves a second copy of what you already have for “Storage” purposes.
Never forget that if this group of Communist organizers is willing to have guns walk and have murder and all manner of carnage as a result should realize they will stop at nothing to disarm to the law abiding.
One can only speculate at what they will do given the next “Serious Crisis” that crops up.
Remember that all they need to do to implement a good old fashioned registration and confiscation regime is to control every gun purchase and have them subject to the due process-free watchlists.
Chip on June 20, 2011 at 6:00 PM
The drug cartels must be on The Brady Campaign email list.
mad saint jack on June 20, 2011 at 6:00 PM
Don’t forget magazines. You may need a lifetime supply if and when they push for a mag ban.
mad saint jack on June 20, 2011 at 6:05 PM
For when they need to reach out and touch the military?
Yoop on June 20, 2011 at 6:07 PM
Let’s see: On one hand we’ve got the Mexican President and our own Secretary of State screeching about the need for stricter gun control laws because of Mexican narco-criminals buying them; we’ve got prominent Democratic Congressmen and women pushing for more laws controlling “assault weapons” and .50 caliber rifles and increasing federal controls over private firearms sales; and we have a highly contended election coming up in just over a year that will determine control of the Senate and the White House.
At the same time we have the ATF (under the direction of the Justice Department) and the Department of Homeland Security facilitating illegal purchase and cross-border transportation of AK-47s (“assault weapons”) and .50 caliber rifles into Mexico for purposes nobody can quite explain.
It doesn’t take a genius to connect the dots here. If State, HSC, and Justice are coordinating this thing, it has to be happening at the White House level. And I don’t believe that policy statements from State and Congress just happen to line up perfectly with a law enforcement initiative that provides exactly the evidence those statements need to gain credibility an produce legislative action and political gain.
Socratease on June 20, 2011 at 6:39 PM
The Audacity of Dopes
FalseProfit on June 20, 2011 at 6:42 PM
.50 cal rifles are a real threat to the armored cars and APCs of the Mexican army.
Rebar on June 20, 2011 at 6:42 PM
It is time for a Congressional investigation of Holder and Obama’s action over this and several other issues, dropping the case against the New Black Panthers on Voter Intimidation.
old war horse on June 20, 2011 at 6:46 PM
A ‘Fast and Furious’ border fiasco
Insert witty screen name here on June 20, 2011 at 6:46 PM
Remember this from March 2009?
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, on a visit to Mexico, said Wednesday that America’s inability to prevent weapons being smuggled across the border is causing the deaths of Mexican police officers, soldiers and civilians. (Read a full report on Clinton’s visit.)
Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503543_162-4893905-503543.html#ixzz1PrKaEOrH
gooddad on June 20, 2011 at 6:48 PM
Nice pun there… :-)
Mcguyver on June 20, 2011 at 7:10 PM
From Issa’s Committee report:
Wow, what a great use of taxpayers’ dollars and law enforcement resources: Let straw buyers buy guns, watch as they go south of the border, and then make the amazing discovery that some of them end up at the scene of crimes by Mexican drug gangs.
Isn’t that sort of like proving that water runs downhill?
Except for the dead bodies, that is.
Socratease on June 20, 2011 at 7:13 PM
When did Operation gunrunner start?
this is from April 2009:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04/02/myth-percent-small-fraction-guns-mexico-come/
The hysteria over the number of guns from America found at Mexican crime scenes was in the air back then….was this what gave the Admin the idea?
MaggiePoo on June 20, 2011 at 7:13 PM
Don’t forget the UN’s Small Arms Treaty.
‘Cause you can bet Barrack and Hillary haven’t.
CPT. Charles on June 20, 2011 at 7:21 PM
This is from a couple of weeks ago, but I missed it.
‘Gunwalker’ guns linked to helicopter shooting
INC on June 20, 2011 at 8:16 PM
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