Gunwalker: The Fast and Furious scandal expands Update: Gun control lobby involved?

posted at 1:20 pm on June 20, 2011 by Jazz Shaw

Over the last week we’ve given you a couple of reports on the emerging scandal surrounding the ATF’s disastrously handled Operation Fast and Furious, also known as Operation Gunwalker. Over the weekend, Pajamas Media (where they have been doing a bang-up job breaking and covering this story) brought forth more damning details coming from Darrell Issa’s investigation. In particular, some of the comments from whistle-blowers inside the ATF have been beyond alarming.

Page 27: [Special Agent John Dodson, the original whistle blower]

“Well, every time we voiced concerns…But every day being out here watching a guy go into the same gun store buying another 15 or 20 AK-47s or variants or . . . five or ten Draco pistols or FN Five-seveNs . . . guys that don’t have a job, and he is walking in here spending $27,000 for three Barrett .50 calibers …and you are sitting there every day and you can’t do anything…”

Page 38: [Dodson, speaking about ATF supervisors in Phoenix and their disregard for lives lost due to Fast & Furious]

“[T]here was a prevailing attitude amongst the group and outside of the group in the ATF chain of command… I was having a conversation with Special Agent [L] about the case in which the conversation ended with me asking her are you prepared to go to a border agent’s funeral over this… because that’s going to happen. And the sentiment that was given back to me by both her, the group supervisor, was that…if you are going to make an omelette [sic], you need to scramble some eggs.”

There’s more at the link, so check out the entire thing. At this point it’s difficult to believe that this isn’t going to end very badly for a lot of the players involved. While the old school media was slow off the mark on this story, by this morning even the Morning Joe crew was covering it at MSNBC, so the lid seems to be well and truly off the pot.

The unresolved questions at this stage seem to be less about how this was screwed up so badly, but rather who authorized this debacle and how high up the food chain it goes. As Ed Morrissey already noted, it looks like the president will be tossing acting head of the ATF, Kenneth Melson under the bus. But given the scope of this scandal, the horrific damage which resulted (including the loss of American agents’ lives) and the sheer stupidity of the plan, well…

I think you’re going to need a bigger bus.

UPDATE: Also at PJM, Bob Owens has yet another update. Was this a move to boost up the gun control lobby?

The obvious answer is that Gunwalker’s objective was never intended to be a “legitimate law enforcement interest.” Instead, it appears that ATF Acting Director Ken Melson and Department of Justice senior executives specifically created an operation that was designed from the outset to arm Mexican narco-terrorists and increase violence substantially along both sides of the Southwest border.

Success was measured not by the number of criminals being incarcerated, but by the number of weapons transiting the border and the violence those weapons caused. An ATF manager was “delighted” when Gunwalker guns started showing up at drug busts. It would be entirely consistent with this theory if DOJ communications reflected the approval of the ATF senior officials they were colluding with — but as we know, Holder’s Department of Justice refuses to cooperate.

ALSO: While this may look like the “Gong” show, the word was “going” as noted in the comments. Corrected.

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I think you’re going to need a bigger bus.

IMPEACH THE KEYNESIAN!

Roy Rogers on June 20, 2011 at 1:22 PM

Trickle Trickle Trickle – like most political scandals, it takes a while for the stink to reach the public’s (MSM) nose.

jake-the-goose on June 20, 2011 at 1:23 PM

I still haven’t heard anyone articulate what they hoped to accomplish by the stupid thing…

Youngs98 on June 20, 2011 at 1:24 PM

Acting ATF head Ken Melson is likely out over this, but he’s going to be far from the last IMHO.

The message traffic between ATF and DOJ, as well as the minutes for multi-agency meetings with FBI, State, Homeland Security, and others should be of extreme interest to Issa in figuring out who knew what and when.

teke184 on June 20, 2011 at 1:24 PM

gong…going, just a little typo Jazz…
This is going, or should be huge…I can’t remember anything recently as charged as this…people, American citizens were killed, and hundreds of Mexican nationals killed with this program…unbelievable.

right2bright on June 20, 2011 at 1:24 PM

But every day being out here watching a guy go into the same gun store buying another 15 or 20 AK-47s or variants or . . . five or ten Draco pistols or FN Five-seveNs . . . guys that don’t have a job, and he is walking in here spending $27,000 for three Barrett .50 calibers …and you are sitting there every day and you can’t do anything…

This is stunning. Beyond belief. There are men that are dead because of this policy. DEAD AMERICANS!!

Holder and Obama lied, People Died.

wash, rinse, spit, repeat.

ted c on June 20, 2011 at 1:24 PM

I think I promised Hot Air readers another post today.

Here it is.

Bob Owens on June 20, 2011 at 1:25 PM

I still haven’t heard anyone articulate what they hoped to accomplish by the stupid thing…

Youngs98 on June 20, 2011 at 1:24 PM

Do you mean investigation or program..

right2bright on June 20, 2011 at 1:25 PM

the group supervisor, was that…if you are going to make an omelette [sic], you need to scramble some eggs.

how do you like that Border Patrol.?..y’all are no more valuable than a Denny’s Western Omelette.

ted c on June 20, 2011 at 1:25 PM

If Melson goes under the bus, he will quietly resurface a few months later in a cushy government job somewhere else, and no one in the DC establishment will report on it.

The only thing that will shake the truth loose on this 2nd Amendment scam is a special prosecutor and the threat of criminal charges against Melson and his subordinates. We have to make it so painful for him to continue to lie that he flips on the idiot Holder.

slickwillie2001 on June 20, 2011 at 1:25 PM

Release the tapes!

….because people have got to know whether or not their President is a crook. Well, I’m not a crook.

Sounds familiar.

BobMbx on June 20, 2011 at 1:26 PM

Obama: We are working on gun control behind the scenes.

Remember that? Gee, wonder what he was referring to?

lorien1973 on June 20, 2011 at 1:27 PM

I’ve said it before, but I’ll say it again, PLEASE let this be the thing that brings Holder down. I want that more than anything.

Vyce on June 20, 2011 at 1:27 PM

I still haven’t heard anyone articulate what they hoped to accomplish by the stupid thing…

Youngs98 on June 20, 2011 at 1:24 PM

The goal was to make it seem as though gun violence was rising as a way to enact more gun control.

lorien1973 on June 20, 2011 at 1:29 PM

If you want to get a gun now? I would highly recommend it.

Just remember, the gun fanatic and gun dorks told you so.

upinak on June 20, 2011 at 1:29 PM

What did Obama/Holder know, and when did they know it?

Midas on June 20, 2011 at 1:29 PM

from bob owens’ column at pajamasmedia.com

At the same time in 2009 that federal law enforcement agencies (the ATF, the DOJ, and presumably Janet Napolitano’s Department of Homeland Security) were creating the operation that led to the executive branch being the largest gun smuggler in the Southwest, the president’s team was crafting the rhetoric to sell the crisis they were creating.

On television, in various news outlets, and even in a joint appearance with Mexican President Felipe Calderon, Obama pushed the 90 percent lie, implying that 90% of the guns recovered in Mexican cartel violence came from U.S. gun shops.

I also recall SECSTATE Clinton went to Mexico and decried gun violence during that same time period. I thought that the trip to mexico was on of her first at that posting? IIRC? Anyway, it seems pretty coincidental that the Obama administration would be walking guns across the border, politically griping about gun violence simultaneously and then scratching their chinny chin chins about what to do about them….like *gun control*??? hmmm

ted c on June 20, 2011 at 1:29 PM

Bob Owens on June 20, 2011 at 1:25 PM

Excellent work. Thank you. I agree — this is an unparalleled scandal in its implications. Also great to expose Obama’s relationship to the Joyce Foundation, which has been poorly covered and rarely discussed. Some judges I heard interviewed before the election talked about the pernicious influence of Joyce.

rrpjr on June 20, 2011 at 1:30 PM

I still haven’t heard anyone articulate what they hoped to accomplish by the stupid thing…

Youngs98 on June 20, 2011 at 1:24 PM

The real goal?

Use the gun sales to argue for stricter gun control laws in the US. “See, we have to regulate guns in the US or they’ll fall into the hands of Mexican drug dealers.”

Wethal on June 20, 2011 at 1:30 PM

I think you’re going to need a bigger bus.

I don’t know if the under the bus strategy is going to contain this any further.

ted c on June 20, 2011 at 1:31 PM

With you there vyce

cmsinaz on June 20, 2011 at 1:31 PM

This is what many have been saying all along:

Mega-Scandal: Was ‘Gunwalker’ a PR Op for Gun Control?

Buckle up: An agent testifies that surveillance stopped at the border, meaning the operation didn’t actually trace guns to cartels to make arrests. The only conclusion? Law enforcement wasn’t the point, orchestrated violence was, and that’s a history-making scandal.

There are incredibly damning implications from the testimony. The Obama adm was ready to let people die for their political agenda.

INC on June 20, 2011 at 1:31 PM

Acting ATF head Ken Melson is likely out over this…

Sorry, ‘out’ isn’t enough.

People need to be *jailed* over this, and it stops only when we’re damn sure we got to the bottom (or top, rather) of the decision tree and find out who’s ultimately responsible, and *THEY* must end up in jail.

Midas on June 20, 2011 at 1:32 PM

So. Were those guns bought for the Dept of Education, that everyone thought I and a few other people here on HA were out of our minds on asking why Dept of Education would need high powered rifles with hollow point round, found in this smuggling?

I would LOVE to know.

upinak on June 20, 2011 at 1:32 PM

In 2009, Obama, Homeland Security Chief Janet Napolitano, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Sen. Dianne Feinstein had all charged that the increasing violence in Mexico was caused by guns purchased too easily in the U.S. They called on Congress to act to tighten gun control laws.
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=44246

ted c on June 20, 2011 at 1:33 PM

ted c on June 20, 2011 at 1:29 PM

I forgot–my link is from the same Bob Owens column you mentioned.

This appears to be collusion at the highest levels going up to Obama himself.

INC on June 20, 2011 at 1:33 PM

American citizens were killed, and hundreds of Mexican nationals killed with this program…unbelievable.

right2bright on June 20, 2011 at 1:24 PM

American citizens were killed in Waco by Clinton.

How’d that work out?

Oh, yeah, the broad ‘responsible’ ran for Governor of Florida.

Lanceman on June 20, 2011 at 1:34 PM

Bob Owens on June 20, 2011 at 1:25 PM

Yeah, this isn’t just some screwed up cowboy game. Too many dots connect to an agenda set up to prove more gun control laws are needed. Hillary’s comment about illegal sales, then our man-boy president assuring his base he’s working under the radar on more gun control , now the ATF/DoJ boys stonewalling a legit investigation.

a capella on June 20, 2011 at 1:34 PM

Issa flat out accusing Holder of purjury.

Throwing Melson under the bus, will simply add more blood to the water. Expect not just Holder to go down, but Napolitano will get thrown to the wolves – because this goes all the way to the top.

Rebar on June 20, 2011 at 1:34 PM

Red lit headline just recently put up on Drudge:

REPORT: ATF DIRECTOR EXPECTED TO RESIGN UNDER PRESSURE… DEVELOPING…

Here comes da bus! Here comes da bus!

FlatFoot on June 20, 2011 at 1:34 PM

This appears to be collusion at the highest levels going up to Obama himself.

INC on June 20, 2011 at 1:33 PM

it’s becoming clearer, I think.

Allow assault/sniper weapons to be purchased in US–do nothing
See to it that they head south–do nothing
Watch as gun violence shreds Mexico–decry violence
In decrying violence, argue for stricter gun controls here in US when, in actuality, you allowed illegal purchases to happen.

Criminal.

ted c on June 20, 2011 at 1:36 PM

Over the last week we’ve given you a couple of reports on the emerging scandal surrounding the ATF’s disastrously handled Operation Fast and Furious, also known as Operation Gunwalker.

Also known as: Walkergate

Issa: Holder ‘Absolutely’ Knew About ‘Fast & Furious’ Earlier Than He Testified

Issa pointed to two things he says indicates a Justice Department cover up. First, he cites a letter that Assistant Attorney General Ronald Weich, head of the Justice Department’s office of legislative affairs, sent to Sen. Charles Grassley (R-Iowa), the ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee on Feb. 4, 2011. Issa characterizes that letter as a “lie.”

Secondly, Issa says the Justice Department made excessive and unjustifiable redactions in documents it provided to his committee.

Additionally, Issa says he does not believe Attorney General Eric Holder testified accurately in the Judiciary Committee on May 3, when he told Issa (who also serves on that committee) that he had only learned of the gun-running operation—called “Operation Fast and Furious”–a few weeks before that.

Insert witty screen name here on June 20, 2011 at 1:36 PM

Red lit headline just recently put up on Drudge:

REPORT: ATF DIRECTOR EXPECTED TO RESIGN UNDER PRESSURE… DEVELOPING…
Here comes da bus! Here comes da bus!

FlatFoot on June 20, 2011 at 1:34 PM

It can’t be allowed to stop with a simple resignation – that can’t be the only penalty – for him, or others.

It seems the country has lost its collective mind in this regard and has agreed that the worst that can happen to most elected officials when they break the law is that they resign and everyone moves on.

NO.

Investigations, charges, trials, and hopefully imprisonment are the prescribed and required course of action.

Midas on June 20, 2011 at 1:37 PM

Nothing less than Eric Holder in an orange jumpsuit.

Nothing. Less.

CurtZHP on June 20, 2011 at 1:38 PM

Nothing less than Eric Holder in an orange jumpsuit.

Nothing. Less.

CurtZHP on June 20, 2011 at 1:38 PM

And not just him – sounds like there are *many* people that need to be joining him.

Midas on June 20, 2011 at 1:39 PM

Now everyone close your eyes and imagine that this was done under Bush’s watch..what do you think the media would be doing?..specials on MSNBC?..full section coverage in the NYT??

galtg on June 20, 2011 at 1:40 PM

IF we had a GOP lead by Republicans and not by RINO’s, this would be a big problem for Obama.

Wonder what Ulsterman is hearing?

Roy Rogers on June 20, 2011 at 1:40 PM

Don’t impeach the DOTUS…………just cripple what’s left of his Presidency.

Don’t put Biden in the Oval office and and then let him appoint Gabbie Giffords as a VP.

Besides Boehner isn’t going to impeach his GOLFING BUDDY.

PappyD61 on June 20, 2011 at 1:40 PM

More from Bob Owens. There are embedded links at PJM.

Sorry for the lengthy quote, but Owens really put things together (my emphasis):

At the same time they were damning gun dealers in public, the administration was secretly forcing them to provide weapons to the cartels, by the armful and without oversight. More than one gun industry insider suggests that the administration extorted cooperation and silence from these gun shops. As the ATF has the power to summarily shut dealers down for the most minor of offenses, that is very, very possible.

The administration has spared no effort to stop the investigation in its tracks. Democrat senators attempted to poison the well the day before the Oversight Committee’s hearings. The ranking Democrat on the committee did as well, before being flummoxed into silence by the testimony presented.

And Obama himself has offered the solutions we would expect from a gun prohibitionist:

Faced with a Congress hostile to even slight restrictions of Second Amendment rights, the Obama administration is exploring potential changes to gun laws that can be secured strictly through executive action, administration officials say….

INC on June 20, 2011 at 1:41 PM

Holder and Napolitano under the bus will not be enough.

Schadenfreude on June 20, 2011 at 1:41 PM

OT: sign up for raffle to dine with Obama, sans donation, here:
http://www.barackobama.com/signup/dinner-with-barack

TexasDan on June 20, 2011 at 1:41 PM

Here comes da bus!

FlatFoot on June 20, 2011 at 1:34 PM

Under my bus.

Nothing. Less.

CurtZHP on June 20, 2011 at 1:38 PM

Holder is a small fish – Napolitano is up to her eyeballs in this mess, they both need orange jumpsuits.

Rebar on June 20, 2011 at 1:41 PM

I guess we don’t need to wonder why Obama’s Justice Department filed a lawsuit against the State of Arizona, to stop them from enforcing immigration laws in their state. Sort of paints a different picture of this administration, at least in my eyes.

Vote Republican and only be called a racist one more time.

bflat879 on June 20, 2011 at 1:42 PM

The ultimate purpose of this FUBAR operations was to get evidence showing an urgent need for gun control in the United States. It seems to have failed.

Dhuka on June 20, 2011 at 1:43 PM

I think this scandal will doom Obama’s re-election campaign for good. It won’t blow over and will last for months. Maybe even into President Palin’s first term.

JimK on June 20, 2011 at 1:43 PM

I agree that it looks as it Napolitano was in on this as well. Surely the Dept of Homeland Security would have had to turn a blind eye to this op.

INC on June 20, 2011 at 1:43 PM

I think I promised Hot Air readers another post today.

Here it is.

Bob Owens on June 20, 2011 at 1:25 PM

Bob, updated with a link.

Also fixed “gong” DUH

Jazz Shaw on June 20, 2011 at 1:44 PM

Here comes da bus! Here comes da bus!

FlatFoot on June 20, 2011 at 1:34 PM

Time to break this oldie but goodie out…..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_JUQSje_xA

tencole on June 20, 2011 at 1:44 PM

This is stunning. Beyond belief. There are men that are dead because of this policy. DEAD AMERICANS!!

Holder and Obama lied, People Died.

wash, rinse, spit, repeat.

So What… “Eggs have to be broken to make an omlet…”
The goal is to institute “reasonble gun cotrol measures” and that can’t be done without manufacturing a crisis. You have Calderon Obama and the Democrat machine working to this end. This illegal regime knows no bounds.

Kuffar on June 20, 2011 at 1:44 PM

I think this scandal will doom Obama’s re-election campaign for good. It won’t blow over and will last for months. Maybe even into President Palin’s first term.

JimK on June 20, 2011 at 1:43 PM

How is it doomed when the MSM won’t touch it with a Barak’s winkie?

upinak on June 20, 2011 at 1:45 PM

This is like a script from an 80s B Action Movie.

- The Cat

MirCat on June 20, 2011 at 1:45 PM

Obama: We are working on gun control behind the scenes.

Remember that? Gee, wonder what he was referring to?

lorien1973 on June 20, 2011 at 1:27 PM

Ding! Ding! Ding!

SouthernGent on June 20, 2011 at 1:45 PM

Bob Owens on June 20, 2011 at 1:25 PM

Great column.

INC on June 20, 2011 at 1:46 PM

Let me remind Y’all that this won’t be the ‘first’ resignation over this scandal:

U.S. Ambassador to Mexico resigns. Was it Gunwalker? “Americans put up the weapons and Mexicans put up the dead.” Permanent damage to relations?

From the LA Times:

The U.S. ambassador to Mexico resigned Saturday after angering Mexican President Felipe Calderon over leaked diplomatic cables that bluntly described shortcomings in Mexico’s 4-year-old war on drug cartels.

There is no mention in any of the “mainstream” press stories about Pascual’s resignation that the Project Gunwalker Scandal had anything to do with it. It was however, I am told, the straw that broke that camel’s back.

Insert witty screen name here on June 20, 2011 at 1:48 PM

Oh my – this is getting even more interesting.

gophergirl on June 20, 2011 at 1:49 PM

ObamaGuns

faraway on June 20, 2011 at 1:49 PM

Vote Republican and only be called a racist one more time.

bflat879 on June 20, 2011 at 1:42 PM

We’re going to have to live through it one time before that when we choose someone other than Herman Cain as our candidate (I like him, but he’s not going to be it).

We know that Dowd/Matthews/et al are already writing the “GOP are racists” narrative for the day someone other than Cain gets the nod.

*sigh*

Midas on June 20, 2011 at 1:49 PM

I’ve said it before, but I’ll say it again, PLEASE let this be the thing that brings Holder down. I want that more than anything.

Vyce on June 20, 2011 at 1:27 PM

Just for you…

Holder: Justice Department Has Re-Opened The “Civil Rights Division”
“We have reinvigorated the important work of our Civil Rights Division. Not only is this office once again open for business, it has never been stronger,” Attorney General Eric Holder said at a speech to the American Constitution Society.

Is this what you are talking about?

right2bright on June 20, 2011 at 1:50 PM

This may well end up with destruction of evidence and obstructing justice charges if Issa digs deeply enough. They are well and truly screwed on this one and that usually leads to panic and stupid actions. This administration may well end up being known for a series of constitutional crises which would be ironic as the president is supposedly a constitutional scholar. Those darn “negative rights” getting in the way again!

jnelchef on June 20, 2011 at 1:50 PM

Jazz…..
“old school media”…..nice name…You are a much nicer person than I.
;)

tencole on June 20, 2011 at 1:50 PM

Jazz and Bob. Here is my suggestion. Make a timeline (as liberals are more prone to look at pictures) of the events that have taken place with links to each “time” if available.

It will surely open the eyes of many people… especially with everything going on right now.

upinak on June 20, 2011 at 1:51 PM

Nobody lower than an Obama Cabinet member should be going to Prison for this charade.

portlandon on June 20, 2011 at 1:51 PM

I think this scandal will doom Obama’s re-election campaign for good. It won’t blow over and will last for months. Maybe even into President Palin’s first term.

JimK on June 20, 2011 at 1:43 PM

How is it doomed when the MSM won’t touch it with a Barak’s winkie?

upinak on June 20, 2011 at 1:45 PM

When Drudge starts running it at the top. We hope.

JimK on June 20, 2011 at 1:52 PM

it’s becoming clearer, I think.

Allow assault/sniper weapons to be purchased in US–do nothing
See to it that they head south–do nothing
Watch as gun violence shreds Mexico–decry violence
In decrying violence, argue for stricter gun controls here in US when, in actuality, you allowed illegal purchases to happen.

Criminal.

ted c on June 20, 2011 at 1:36 PM

Ted, as you copied earlier – Nap/Hill and Feinstein have been using this schtick for 2 years – all while the program was being implemented

High crimes and misdemeanors has been met for at least 3 Cabinet Members (adding Holder) and a Senator.

Odie1941 on June 20, 2011 at 1:52 PM

How is it doomed when the MSM won’t touch it with a Barak’s winkie?

upinak on June 20, 2011 at 1:45 PM

There is no “deepthroat” that is a liberal, no Bernstein a conservative…if a politician breaks a law, and a journalist doesn’t report it, did it happen?

right2bright on June 20, 2011 at 1:52 PM

This scandal is simply the Leftist paradigm of manufactured crisis-opportunity in a new, more explosive context. There is nothing in this story we haven’t seen or couldn’t see in every one of their domestic power plays. In this case, all that’s different is that they strayed outside their comfort zone of domestic policy. But that’s what hubris does.

rrpjr on June 20, 2011 at 1:53 PM

Drudge has=REPORT: ATF DIRECTOR EXPECTED TO RESIGN UNDER PRESSURE… DEVELOPING…
Someone, anyone but bho or holder going down with this mess!
L

letget on June 20, 2011 at 1:53 PM

When Drudge starts running it at the top. We hope.

JimK on June 20, 2011 at 1:52 PM

Maybe it is time to do a group effort to get the message out. blog it on as many conservative blogs as poosible, with Bob’s and Jazz’s story intermixed… and maybe with a time line like I suggested.

It wouldbe interesting to see the reactions.

upinak on June 20, 2011 at 1:54 PM

There is no “deepthroat” that is a liberal, no Bernstein a conservative…if a politician breaks a law, and a journalist doesn’t report it, did it happen?

right2bright on June 20, 2011 at 1:52 PM

Got an email for Brietbart? Jim Treacher? Allah?

I think we have some bases covered. :)

upinak on June 20, 2011 at 1:55 PM

I still haven’t heard anyone articulate what they hoped to accomplish by the stupid thing…

Just a few short weeks ago, Dianne Feinstein was making noise about reinstalling her favorite piece of legislation; “The Assault Weapon Ban”. Only this time it was going to be a lot more strict.

As Barry told Jim and Sarah Brady, ‘we’re working on gun control under the radar’.

They sure were. How high does this stench go? ALL THE WAY TO THE FREAKING TOP!

GarandFan on June 20, 2011 at 1:56 PM

Napolitano and Holder are both going under the bus.
I’d like to see this percolate at a low simmer for another couple of months, and then explode during the campaign. Our scandals are peaking too early! We want an October surprise!

Iblis on June 20, 2011 at 1:57 PM

Has it been mentioned yet that the agents are saying that tracking of the guns stopped at the border?

Bishop on June 20, 2011 at 1:58 PM

Forget under the bus, they need to be on the bus.

On the bus on the way to Leavenworth, chained together at the ankles.

reaganaut on June 20, 2011 at 1:58 PM

White House Insider: Democrats Join with Republicans Against Obama

Let this scandal go from Holder to Jarret and straight to the oval office.

Roy Rogers on June 20, 2011 at 1:58 PM

Jazz and Bob. Here is my suggestion. Make a timeline (as liberals are more prone to look at pictures) of the events that have taken place with links to each “time” if available.

It will surely open the eyes of many people… especially with everything going on right now.

upinak on June 20, 2011 at 1:51 PM

It is funny you mention that. I have something akin to that coming out tomorrow.

Bob Owens on June 20, 2011 at 1:58 PM

And yeah this was another smart move by the Smartest Administration Ever, piss off 100 million gun owners.

Bishop on June 20, 2011 at 1:59 PM

Wow, DOJ and ATF ignoring straw gun purchases in favor of escalated violence so they can say “See, there’s too easy access to guns in America” so they can draft draconian Gc laws…. Beyond shameless.

44Magnum on June 20, 2011 at 2:00 PM

This scandal is simply the Leftist paradigm of manufactured crisis-opportunity in a new, more explosive context. There is nothing in this story we haven’t seen or couldn’t see in every one of their domestic power plays. In this case, all that’s different is that they strayed outside their comfort zone of domestic policy. But that’s what hubris does.

rrpjr on June 20, 2011 at 1:53 PM

Orwell-Alinsky mashup.

the_nile on June 20, 2011 at 2:00 PM

I think we have some bases covered. :)

upinak on June 20, 2011 at 1:55 PM

What we need is an aggressive national reporter, and an insider that is willing to talk…than we have something.
Until then, it is up to the news cycle as to how far this will go.

right2bright on June 20, 2011 at 2:00 PM

It is funny you mention that. I have something akin to that coming out tomorrow.

Bob Owens on June 20, 2011 at 1:58 PM

Great minds Bob. I will be looking forward to it.. keep Jazz posted and maybe (if Allah will’s it, heh) cross post it?

upinak on June 20, 2011 at 2:00 PM

Until then, it is up to the news cycle as to how far this will go.

right2bright on June 20, 2011 at 2:00 PM

Umm it looks like USA Today is getting in on the action?

upinak on June 20, 2011 at 2:02 PM

It’s times like these that I miss crr6′s expert legal commentary and ernesto’s social analysis.

Bishop on June 20, 2011 at 2:03 PM

Also fixed “gong” DUH

Jazz Shaw on June 20, 2011 at 1:44 PM

Jaye P. Morgan hardest hit.

Del Dolemonte on June 20, 2011 at 2:03 PM

While the old school media was slow off the mark on this story, by this morning even the Morning Joe crew was covering it at MSNBC, so the lid seems to be well and truly off the pot.

I suspect that the MSM have come to the conclusion that their boy wonder is a disaster, and that it might be better for the long-term future of the democrats if he loses. Thus, they begin to report the truth.

Vashta.Nerada on June 20, 2011 at 2:04 PM

What we need is an aggressive national reporter, and an insider that is willing to talk…than we have something.
Until then, it is up to the news cycle as to how far this will go.

right2bright on June 20, 2011 at 2:00 PM

The Ulsterman Report: Obama Administration Hiding Thousands of Gunrunner Scandal Docs From Congress

Roy Rogers on June 20, 2011 at 2:04 PM

It’s times like these that I miss crr6′s expert legal commentary and ernesto’s social analysis.

Bishop on June 20, 2011 at 2:03 PM

Crr6 is busy watching “I’m Just a Bill”.

The Bar exam is getting closer….

Odie1941 on June 20, 2011 at 2:06 PM

I’m seeing nothing about this on the lefty site I check (Huffers).

That’s probably good. When the feces hit the fan they won’t be prepared for it.

juliesa on June 20, 2011 at 2:06 PM

Instead, it appears that ATF Acting Director Ken Melson and Department of Justice senior executives specifically created an operation that was designed from the outset to arm Mexican narco-terrorists and increase violence substantially along both sides of the Southwest border.Success was measured not by the number of criminals being incarcerated, but by the number of weapons transiting the border and the violence those weapons caused. An ATF manager was “delighted” when Gunwalker guns started showing up at drug busts. It would be entirely consistent with this theory if DOJ communications reflected the approval of the ATF senior officials they were colluding with — but as we know, Holder’s Department of Justice refuses to cooperate.

TRAITOROUS?

PappyD61 on June 20, 2011 at 2:08 PM

What we need is an aggressive national reporter, and an insider that is willing to talk…than we have something.
Until then, it is up to the news cycle as to how far this will go.

right2bright on June 20, 2011 at 2:00 PM

You would think that they’d be knocking down the door to get at this story.
But alas “journalists” are no longer investigative reporters, they are now “commentators”.
Oh for the Woodward and Bernstein days of journalism, but I’m afraid those days are long gone. *sigh*

tencole on June 20, 2011 at 2:11 PM

ATF Long Gun Registry Back from the Dead

Just remember why the administration wanted to perpetrate this scheme to track guns going over the border and the not actually track them going over the border.

One of the first manifestations of the good results of F&F was to change the rules on the reporting of Bulk sales (More than two) rifles in less than a certain number of days in Southeastern states.

Bulk sales and a certain number of days soon to defined as One and the location to be anywhere in the US.

Insert witty screen name here on June 20, 2011 at 2:11 PM

I don’t think this can be emphasized enough: the purpose of the Gunwalker operation was not to trace the conduit and identify the players by which guns reach the cartels from the US; rather, the purpose was to cause an escalation in violence and make true the false 90% claim made by both Mexican and American governments, which in turn would furnish the gun control proponents with the statistical evidence they need to promote stricter anti-gun laws and regulations.

In short, the people responsible for this plan wanted the deaths of border patrol agents and Mexican police and civilians. They intentionally caused these deaths. Carnage wasn’t an unpleasant but necessary side-effect. Carnage was the point.

Insofar as I know, nobody died as a result of the break-in at the Watergate Hotel or its subsequent cover-up, but the Gunwalker operation begs the same question asked about the president then: what did he know and when did he know it?

As an aside, I recently bought a very nice imported semiautomatic pistol I could barely afford, along with a a reloading kit with the necessary dies of various calibers, along with plenty of primers, powder, casings, and bullets. I suggest all thinking people do the same.

troyriser_gopftw on June 20, 2011 at 2:11 PM

As an aside, I recently bought a very nice imported semiautomatic pistol I could barely afford, along with a a reloading kit with the necessary dies of various calibers, along with plenty of primers, powder, casings, and bullets. I suggest all thinking people do the same.

troyriser_gopftw on June 20, 2011 at 2:11 PM

welcome to my side. Enjoy reloading and if you have questions, stop what you are doing and find someone who does!

upinak on June 20, 2011 at 2:15 PM

This is juse further proof of what I have been iterating since things sterted going south for Team ‘O’ with the rise of the TEA Party’s. Being born in the radicalism of the SDS/Weather Underground plotting Communist takeover of the US in the 60′s & 70′s they will stop at nothing to implement their agenda.

Keep this in mind as we head into the ’12″national emergency” presidential contest, if they can steal through voter fraud and manipulation of tabulations through the Soros of “The S.O.S Project”, I have no doubt that they will try to ignore the will of the people by some ginned up “national emergency” to either postpone the election. I would not put it past these radicals of trying to declare martial-law or even creating a disaster necessitating one.

Mark my words and watch how the cards play out.

Archimedes on June 20, 2011 at 2:16 PM

As someone elsewhere said:

We are talking about interactions – that could be considered acts of war in some cases – with foreign nations, shouldn’t the top person in our government be accountable for those actions?

These weapons are fueling virtual civil war south of the border, how could that not be considered an act of war by the Mexican government?

Insert witty screen name here on June 20, 2011 at 2:16 PM

It’s times like these that I miss crr6′s expert legal commentary and ernesto’s social analysis.

Bishop on June 20, 2011 at 2:03 PM

Two ‘titans’ of intelligence by virtue of their minority status.

Lanceman on June 20, 2011 at 2:16 PM

So… who engages in astroturf again, Ms. Pelosi?

Red Cloud on June 20, 2011 at 2:17 PM

Damn! How’d that happen?

Keep this in mind as we head into the ’12 presidential contest, if they can steal through voter fraud and manipulation of tabulations through the Soros of “The S.O.S Project”, I have no doubt that they will try to ignore the will of the people by some ginned up “national emergency” to either postpone the election. I would not put it past these radicals of trying to declare martial-law or even creating a disaster necessitating one.

Mark my words and watch how the cards play out.

That’s how it was supposed to read>

Archimedes on June 20, 2011 at 2:19 PM

Archimedes on June 20, 2011 at 2:16 PM
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Was that already tried?

Agents worried ATF program connected with Loughner gun

When news of Giffords shooting broke in January, Peter Forcelli, the group supervisor with ATF’s Phoenix field division, said that agents were anxious that the gun allegedly used by Jared Loughner may have been obtained under the guidance of the “Fast and Furious” operation.

Insert witty screen name here on June 20, 2011 at 2:21 PM

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