Romney: About that pro-life pledge thing…
posted at 1:01 pm on June 19, 2011 by Jazz Shaw
Mitt Romney may want to go back to a strategy of staying out of sight, raising lots of money and basically waiting for the competition to shoot themselves in the foot. Every time he opens his mouth lately it seems he draws fire, particularly when he passed on signing an anti-abortion pledge put forward by the Susan B. Anthony list. Well, Mitt wants you to know that the whiners and complainers have got it all wrong, and he took to the pages of National Review Online to apply some certitude to the matter.
I am pro-life and believe that abortion should be limited to only instances of rape, incest, or to save the life of the mother.
I support the reversal of Roe v. Wade, because it is bad law and bad medicine. Roe was a misguided ruling that was a result of a small group of activist federal judges legislating from the bench.
I support the Hyde Amendment, which broadly bars the use of federal funds for abortions. And as president, I will support efforts to prohibit federal funding for any organization like Planned Parenthood, which primarily performs abortions or offers abortion-related services.
I will reinstate the Mexico City Policy to ensure that nongovernmental organizations that receive funding from America refrain from performing or promoting abortion services, as a method of family planning, in other countries.
It goes on from there with a rather comprehensive laundry list of pro life talking points. So if he’s on the same page with everyone else who did sign the pledge, why did he take a pass on it?
As much as I share the goals of the Susan B. Anthony List, its well-meaning pledge is overly broad and would have unintended consequences. That is why I could not sign it. It is one thing to end federal funding for an organization like Planned Parenthood; it is entirely another to end all federal funding for thousands of hospitals across America. That is precisely what the pledge would demand and require of a president who signed it.
The pledge also unduly burdens a president’s ability to appoint the most qualified individuals to a broad array of key positions in the federal government. I would expect every one of my appointees to carry out my policies on abortion and every other issue, irrespective of their personal views.
These pledges are mostly window dressing anyway, much like the no new taxes pledges that make the rounds every two years. And the wording in this one, particularly in determining who would meet the bar before a nomination or appointment was made, is so vague that the candidate could dance around it in a lot of cases anyway. That’s why it’s rather puzzling that Mitt would open himself up to this sort of broadside. After all, it’s not like he really needs any headlines at the moment.
In any event, read the explanation and judge for yourself. But expect this to come up the next time all these folks meet for a debate.
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Romneycare paid for Abortions
GIVE THAT MAN A SEE-GAR!!!
Roy Rogers on June 20, 2011 at 11:03 AM
Pssssst. UPDATE!
Buy Danish on June 20, 2011 at 11:07 AM
Psssst! “The REAL reason Romney won’t sign is simple. RomneyCare PAYS FOR ABORTIONS WITH STATE FUNDS in Ma and he signed that into law.”
Roy Rogers on June 20, 2011 at 11:12 AM
Exactly!!
It bothers me to no end when people who have no authority to speak for conservatism or the tea party act like they speak for the group when they don’t.
Conservative Samizdat on June 20, 2011 at 11:15 AM
You realize that the Massachusetts Supreme Court required that provision in the law? Its not a law Mitt wanted but a law that the Supreme Court legislated from the bench.
Conservative Samizdat on June 20, 2011 at 11:17 AM
BS
You need “Conservative” in your name as cover?
Roy Rogers on June 20, 2011 at 11:20 AM
Don’t get too technical on him. Facts interfere with emotions.
Buy Danish on June 20, 2011 at 11:29 AM
Facts have an inconvenient way of standing up under scrutiny, don’t they?
Roy Rogers on June 20, 2011 at 11:42 AM
You realize that Mitt Romney made 8 separate vetos on various provisions that were inserted into his plan by the democrats and ALL of his vetos were overriden, right?
Secondly, Mitt Romney’s interpretation was consistent with the Supreme Court holdings.
Had Mitt Romney challenged it, it would have been a lost cause from the get go since the liberal Supreme Court of Massachusetts would have ruled the cases as Mitt Romney and his administration properly interpreted it to be.
Conservative Samizdat on June 20, 2011 at 12:23 PM
I read this morning that what the SBA people think it says and what it actually says are too different things.
If you are a politician that doesn’t matter. You sign papers and let the court figure out afterward what it means.
If you are in business, you know what the words on the page say will bind you. You don’t sign things unless the words say exactly what you mean to sign.
Mitt and Herman are the only politicans smart enough not to get caught in this trap.
Any one who signed it, it simply a pandering politican with no idea how the real world works.
petunia on June 20, 2011 at 12:31 PM
Good gracious, if only you could be this sensible all the time. You’re exactly right; in today’s political climate the courts are the major determiners of just what laws mean.
Uncle Sams Nephew on June 20, 2011 at 12:37 PM
That is his promise and we already have seen what Obama will do.
But like I have told you in the past, stay at home. We don’t care.
csdeven on June 20, 2011 at 12:47 PM
D’OH! You are providing OPINIONS. These are not the same thing as FACTS. The laws vis a vis abortion coverage already existed in the State of Massachusetts prior to Romney’s H.C. plan (and please note C.S.’s additional FACTS regarding vetoes and the futility of trying to change EXISTING LAW).
Buy Danish on June 20, 2011 at 12:49 PM
It’s called “veto” unless your preferred means of government is legislation from the bench.
Regardless; Romney supports public funded abortion.
Spin that! LOL!!!
Roy Rogers on June 20, 2011 at 12:55 PM
You’d do better as Conservative Danish.
Roy Rogers on June 20, 2011 at 12:58 PM
Didn’t Mitt quit Bain Capitol several times?
Is Mitt a serial “quitter”?
right2bright on June 20, 2011 at 1:18 PM
Mitt is one of the best Democrat contenders I’ve seen in a long time. At least since Ed Muskie.
Roy Rogers on June 20, 2011 at 1:21 PM
He also has the best chance of getting the GOP nomination, as it stands right now. It would be worth having him win just so I could see your head explode.
MJBrutus on June 20, 2011 at 1:26 PM
Then, I’m sure you’ll enjoy seeing every Red state explode, too, if Flip Flopney is the GOP nominee.
Jenfidel on June 20, 2011 at 1:36 PM
Do much drugs?
Roy Rogers on June 20, 2011 at 1:36 PM
Ha ha. Drugs! Good one.
MJBrutus on June 20, 2011 at 1:40 PM
While not my first choice, I could live with it. Are you an exploder too?
MJBrutus on June 20, 2011 at 1:41 PM
That, or you and csdeven are smoking each other’s crack.
HAH!
Roy Rogers on June 20, 2011 at 1:42 PM
Tee hee. Oh you’re on fie-yah! Where do you keep coming up with this great material. Crack! Ha ha, comedy gold, man.
MJBrutus on June 20, 2011 at 1:43 PM
Not really.
I just want to elect a real conservative that will turn the country around and back to prosperity, happiness, and functionality and that ain’t Mitt.
Jenfidel on June 20, 2011 at 1:53 PM
Can’t lose with gold mine like you my man!
ROFLMAO!!!
Roy Rogers on June 20, 2011 at 1:53 PM
That’s really lame, even for you.
Buy Danish on June 20, 2011 at 2:15 PM
Romney was pro-choice before he was pro-life.
Mitt and Ted Kennedy were buddies.
Roy Rogers on June 20, 2011 at 2:23 PM
B.s. Obama could call himself a conservative all day long, but it still wouldn’t make him one just because, well, the definition of “conservative” is in the eye of the beholder. “By their fruits you shall know them”.
pseudoforce on June 20, 2011 at 2:30 PM
Hey, have you ever considered getting a job with the National Enquirer or TMZ? You have so many blockbuster revelations nobody but you knows! /
Buy Danish on June 20, 2011 at 2:38 PM
You want to grasp something other that straws?
LOL!
Roy Rogers on June 20, 2011 at 2:41 PM
Another Laughing Hyena. Just what this blog needs…
Buy Danish on June 20, 2011 at 3:01 PM
Speaking of needs…. isn’t it time for your meds?
Lighten up Francis! I’m not laughing with you!
Roy Rogers on June 20, 2011 at 3:10 PM
I get it. That’s another drug reference, because if someone says what BD did his mind must be addled by them. Oh, you’re funnnnn-neeee!
MJBrutus on June 20, 2011 at 3:15 PM
You never get it. Who are you trying to kid?
Roy Rogers on June 20, 2011 at 3:16 PM
Something tells me my fellow Conservatives will stay home on election day in droves because Roe v. Wade won’t be overturned. In his second term, maybe Obamalinsky will abort conservatives, as he’s already done everything else.
As I stated the other day, as much as some would love to make abortion illegal, it’s never going to happen. It’s a topic that will keep Republicans out of office in lieu of Communists. Abortion will never be illegal in the United States ever again. Get used to it……
adamsmith on June 20, 2011 at 3:17 PM
Hey, here’s a wild idea. How about if you stop trolling with remarks to me like:
And then I won’t mock you in response.
MJBrutus on June 20, 2011 at 3:27 PM
I’d prefer to blame RINO’s who turn voters off by their flip flops and liberal tendencies rather than blame voters.
After all, it is the voters not the party elite, who ultimately decide elections.
Roy Rogers on June 20, 2011 at 3:28 PM
Et tu doofus?
Get a life
Roy Rogers on June 20, 2011 at 3:29 PM
Your comments reveal you to be very obtuse. Is it intentional or accidental?
csdeven on June 20, 2011 at 3:53 PM
The question has been asked if you are capable of being a full half twit, or if being a quarter full twit is your lot in life.
Roy Rogers on June 20, 2011 at 3:57 PM
Let’s see if I can make sense of this inane commentary: You confuse opinions with facts. You cut and paste these opinions in a failed attempt to make a point. You repeatedly invoke the annoying “LOL” acronym. I compare you to a laughing hyena. You conclude I need meds.
(Some)one Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest and it ain’t me.
Buy Danish on June 20, 2011 at 4:05 PM
I can understand your denial of the truth, and even your denial of facts. It’s your emotional responses I find the most entertaining.
Roy Rogers on June 20, 2011 at 4:09 PM
By the way, “Roy Rogers” links to a board which is ostensibly about “liberty”. According to my definition of the word, forcing someone to sign a pledge they disagree with, which would constrain someone’s ability to function in their job, and potentially result in unintended consequences, is not “liberty”. It’s extortion, thuggery, heavy-handedness, any number of things. Liberty? Not.
Buy Danish on June 20, 2011 at 4:10 PM
Missed your nap and getting cranky…
LOL!!!
Roy Rogers on June 20, 2011 at 4:14 PM
My responses to your asinine commentary and propaganda are not “emotional” in the least. Earlier I said that YOU are so emotional you can’t discern fact from fiction. Like an immature 3 year old you are now aping a word I used – in a pathetic attempt to win an argument you lost hours ago.
Enjoy your little laughing fit. I hope your mommy is around in case you get soda up your nose as you laugh hysterically at your own “jokes”.
Buy Danish on June 20, 2011 at 4:18 PM
…as opposed to Mitt and his supporters who apparently have no problem with his excusing the MURDER of babies in the womb a/k/a abortion.
Unborn babies will have no Liberty or Life under Mittens.
Jenfidel on June 20, 2011 at 4:19 PM
ROFLMAO!!!
Roy Rogers on June 20, 2011 at 4:20 PM
From dailykos:
Romneycare vs. Obamacare: guess which one covers abortions
Easy to see why liberals love Mitt
Roy Rogers on June 20, 2011 at 4:25 PM
I have specific objections to forcing people to sign pledges. No one is forcing anyone to have an abortion. Least of all Mitt Romney. Nice try though.
Actually, I take that back. Pathetic attempt to veer this discussion off course.
over and out/
Buy Danish on June 20, 2011 at 4:26 PM
The only joke here is YOU.
Uncle Sams Nephew on June 20, 2011 at 4:27 PM
If only…
RINO’s are the “new liberals”
Roy Rogers on June 20, 2011 at 4:33 PM
Actually, that would be your rant at Roy Rogers and your pathetic attempt to discredit his website!
Mitt Romney is OK with baby murder or else he’d sign the pledge.
No one is “forcing” Mitt to sign the pledge, clearly.
Certainly his conscience or his character isn’t.
Jenfidel on June 20, 2011 at 4:53 PM
Pick Romney and I support Obama. Not staying home this election. Want “electable” forget you, and a pox on your hopes.
astonerii on June 20, 2011 at 4:57 PM
I see that your temporary absence from this site did nothing to improve your ability to form political arguments. You are making stuff up out of whole cloth (out of ignorance?), and it is quite frankly despicable. Romney did not sign the S.B.A pledge, but has responded with his own here. To say that he favors “baby murder” is the lowest form of commentary (and is a tactic which does great damage to the cause you claim to care about).
Meanwhile, I have not engaged in any “rants”. Do you know what the word means?! I did not attempt to “discredit” the laughing hyena’s website or whatever it is. I made a point about liberty – the irony that forcing people to sign pledges is not emblematic of liberty. Sorry that that floated way above your childish, hysterical head.
Buy Danish on June 20, 2011 at 5:07 PM
Denial is a common excuse.
Roy Rogers on June 20, 2011 at 5:10 PM
You didn’t answer the question….accidental or on purpose?
csdeven on June 20, 2011 at 5:21 PM
You play games like a child
That’s all you are good for, which makes you useless.
Roy Rogers on June 20, 2011 at 5:23 PM
It sounds like to pox will be on your nose. Cutting it off out of spite for the GOP? No thanks.
csdeven on June 20, 2011 at 5:25 PM
It doesn’t matter I suppose. Accidental or on purpose, the result is the same.
csdeven on June 20, 2011 at 5:26 PM
Wipe your nose and go play outside.
Roy Rogers on June 20, 2011 at 5:26 PM
Hey, let’s have a treasure hunt. Find my “rant”! Meanwhile (and this will be tough!) find some mature commentary directed at me from Roy “LOL” Rogers; something that doesn’t translate as “neener neener neener yuk yuk yuk hee haw”.
Buy Danish on June 20, 2011 at 5:30 PM
You and csdeven need to learn to play nice if you expect to make any friends.
Roy Rogers on June 20, 2011 at 5:34 PM
Enough wasting time with the children.
Re: Romney: About that pro-life pledge thing…
The Romney RINO: Scorecard
Judge the man by what he does, not by what he says.
Roy Rogers on June 20, 2011 at 5:44 PM
Awwww. I’m heartbroken./
Once again I note the irony that you claim to stand for “liberty” – this time while ordering people around like a sandbox bully and using the “humor” of a Bill Maher. Another irony? You and Obama share similar techniques. I don’t suppose you’re from Chicago too…
Buy Danish on June 20, 2011 at 5:45 PM
Rant much?
Roy Rogers on June 20, 2011 at 5:49 PM
Ha! Well known leftist Brit Hume just said in commentary that signing pledges like those from the S.B.A. group is a “mistake”.
No rants anywhere today except from YOU. What a fracking jackass you are.
Buy Danish on June 20, 2011 at 6:14 PM
Sir Rantsalot speaks.
LOL!!!
Roy Rogers on June 20, 2011 at 6:15 PM
People like you? No thanks. The people I have as friends are those that have discussions without resorting to name calling, personal insults, and demeaning accusations.
csdeven on June 20, 2011 at 6:52 PM
you bore me
Roy Rogers on June 20, 2011 at 7:01 PM
I would have to guess you can barely afford the electricity running your computer right now, because you have the level of personal responsibility of someone who could not keep two cents to rub together for more than a minute.
astonerii on June 20, 2011 at 7:58 PM
Yet, I am in a perpetual state of camping out in your head. You do realize I am forcing you to be obsessed with me right?
csdeven on June 21, 2011 at 12:14 AM
I’m confused how an attempt to override the certain legislation inserted into Mitt’s plan is an endorsement of it.
Moreover, just because the Supreme Court upholds Massachusetts state law doesn’t mean Mitt Romney supports it.
Its amazing how you flip things that actually prove Mitt Romney didn’t support abortion and try make them as if they actually do.
Conservative Samizdat on June 21, 2011 at 12:19 AM
I pulled the string on Roy Rogers’ back: Rant much? LOL. Neener neener neener. La La La La La, I can’t hear you. Do as I say, and go away.
Buy Danish on June 21, 2011 at 8:53 AM
Ahh… Menage a Stupid! csdeven, Conservative Samizdat, and Buy Danish. Stuck in the kiddy pool.
At least you have your own support group.
Roy Rogers on June 21, 2011 at 10:08 AM
Heh. Climb down off of your stuffed horse, Trigger, for a moment and take a good, long look in the mirror. You have been the single most childish commenter at this thread (uncontestably among the most childish of all time).
Buy Danish on June 21, 2011 at 11:10 AM
Project much?
Rantsalot…
Roy Rogers on June 21, 2011 at 11:42 AM
Much like a person can be ‘obsessed’ with a mosquito circling around their head…
Be thankful you’re too big to swat, unless Daddy catches you at the keyboard.
Uncle Sams Nephew on June 21, 2011 at 1:30 PM
*exasperated sigh*I was imitating your commenting style, and believe me, in your case, imitation is NOT the sincerest form of flattery.
Buy Danish on June 21, 2011 at 3:29 PM
You must be the dumbest OCD drama queen posting at HA.
Congratulations.
Roy Rogers on June 21, 2011 at 3:36 PM
Except in this case the “mosquito” is only words on your computer screen that you could simply ignore. But you cannot stop obsessing about us. That is a reflection on you.
Nice try at the straw man though…
csdeven on June 21, 2011 at 6:44 PM
Sick psychotic puppy’s…
Roy Rogers on June 21, 2011 at 6:50 PM
What a funny quote coming from the son of a b!tch.
Uncle Sams Nephew on July 13, 2011 at 10:33 PM
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