Voter to Chris Christie: Do your kids go to public school? Christie to voter: None of your business

posted at 2:59 pm on June 17, 2011 by Allahpundit

Via RCP, when was the last time we had some Chris Christie porn to enjoy? A quick scan of the HA archives reveals nothing since … January? Can it really be that long? I wonder what he’s been doing with himself since then, apart from suffering through the daily deluge of media questions about whether he’s running for president. Ah, right — he was helping to get a “breakthrough” budget passed that’s going to force public employees to contribute more to their pensions and health-care plans, which of course is what makes him the new Hitler. In fact, rest assured, somewhere there’s a union tool watching this clip, thinking, “Hitler didn’t like answering questions from his constituents either.”

Tangentially, having just spent three weeks watching another pugnacious NY-area politician melt down in the media, I wonder how Weinergate might have played out had Weiner taken the combative, Christie MYOB approach. Once he lied and made schmucks of all the liberals who bought his dumb hacking excuse, he had no allies left. But if he had come out on day one and pounded the table in the name of principle — “I’ve broken no law, it’s between me and my wife, legislators deserve their privacy too,” etc — our side still would have mocked him for it but plenty of lefties and independents would have rallied behind him, with many a contrite, navel-gazing media analysis about the public’s voyeurism to follow. Voters like a fightin’ alpha male, even when he’s behaved like a cretin. (Weiner, that is, not Christie.)

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But she didn’t ask that. She asked a Why question.

Getting defensive like that doesn’t look good. All he had to say was that the public school system is over financed already and needs to be cut, regardless of where I send my kids.

keep the change on June 17, 2011 at 4:12 PM

She asked a question in which she was attempting to portray Christie as a hater of NJ’s public education system. Everyone except for you saw it that way.

nickj116 on June 17, 2011 at 4:26 PM

Christie is right that his children don’t have to go to a public school for him to cut funding for public schools, etc. He is, as he said, the governor of all the children, not just his own.

However, something about this response is not sitting well with me. She did not question where his children go to school and why he chose to send them there. That “its none of your business” tangent he went on doesn’t seem to make sense…to me anyway. had a democrat said it to me I would be pissed.

Everything else though…he’s right on.

Virginia Shanahan on June 17, 2011 at 4:29 PM

Hey Allah – your idea of “alpha male” is a guy who predominately displays this kind of “courage” when the questioner is a woman? These Chris Christy moments of “awesomeness” seem to primarily feature WOMEN as the ones being beat down.

HondaV65 on June 17, 2011 at 3:57 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWxZolY4iLU

You’re done.

nickj116 on June 17, 2011 at 4:30 PM

Is Sarah even confronting the teacher’s unions like Govs Walker and Christie? Why would we assume the kids would be subject to the same harassment?

MayBee on June 17, 2011 at 4:25 PM

Something tells me you missed a barnburner of a speech in Madison, Wisconsin, in April.

VidOmnia on June 17, 2011 at 4:35 PM

I think it’s safe to say, Christie isn’t Minnesota nice.

ramrants on June 17, 2011 at 4:38 PM

First, Christie ain’t a liar so comparison no worky.

Second, Weiner an alpha male?

AshleyTKing on June 17, 2011 at 4:39 PM

If Obama can send his kids to private school, there is no issue here…

Khun Joe on June 17, 2011 at 4:44 PM

TxAnn56 on June 17, 2011 at 3:29 PM

You are correct on all points about Cristie and national office…plus he has a verrrrry big problem named brother Todd.

red131 on June 17, 2011 at 4:44 PM

Christie is wrong on this one.

Really Right on June 17, 2011 at 4:46 PM

BTW, why is this not asked of Obama? Not only does he send his kids to private school, but he killed the DC voucher program which hurt thousands of poor minority children.

Doughboy on June 17, 2011 at 3:08 PM

Little Bammie killed the voucher program in DC, and that’s perfectly fine with the DC elites, because the real reason they send their kids to private schools is so their little darlings don’t have to associate with the riffraff.

They pour money into public schools because the greedy unions are a source of campaign cash, not so the kids get a better education.

slickwillie2001 on June 17, 2011 at 4:51 PM

Christie seems thin-skinned.

What am I missing?

chief on June 17, 2011 at 4:53 PM

Christie’s been sand-bagged
Constantly by the teachers.
Thus MYOB.

Frankly, I am in the same spot. I pay a premium for high-quality public schools that will never see my children unless I take them there when I vote. The best public school is still a public school.

Haiku Guy on June 17, 2011 at 4:58 PM

nickj116 on June 17, 2011 at 4:26 PM

actually other person noticed that his answer did not jive with the question. She asked why it was fair that he cut funding considering his kids don’t go to public schools. His answer: None of your business where my kids go to school.

lol. I think he misheard the question.

keep the change on June 17, 2011 at 4:58 PM

Just got a tingle with that response.

tjexcite on June 17, 2011 at 4:59 PM

wow I see the one trick bully is at it again.

unseen on June 17, 2011 at 5:03 PM

actually other person noticed that his answer did not jive with the question. She asked why it was fair that he cut funding considering his kids don’t go to public schools. His answer: None of your business where my kids go to school.

lol. I think he misheard the question.

keep the change on June 17, 2011 at 4:58 PM

His answer was fine. She asked why his kids didn’t go to public school and he told her it was none of her business where his kids whent to school. Then he explained why he’s done what he’s done. He pays property tax to support the school system and he is responsible for all the Jersey kid’s education.

What’s wrong with that answer especially since the questioner was probably a union stooge.

Vince on June 17, 2011 at 5:13 PM

One trick pony.

Disagree the 1 trick thing, but, if not taking crap from union shills is his one trick, I like it. Wish one of the ruling class on our stump had that trick.

Dingbat63 on June 17, 2011 at 5:13 PM

actually other person noticed that his answer did not jive with the question. She asked why it was fair that he cut funding considering his kids don’t go to public schools. His answer: None of your business where my kids go to school.

lol. I think he misheard the question.

keep the change on June 17, 2011 at 4:58 PM

Christie heard the question/statement correctly. It’s called neither confirming nor denying where his children go to school.

He later admitted they go to a religious school, somewhat defeating the purpose, but it sounded like he wanted to give a personal reason (thus with more clout) why some parents may not choose a public school.

scotash on June 17, 2011 at 5:23 PM

Anyone complaining about him saying it is none of your business where my kids go to school might not realize the likely threats on his life and family he has to take into consideration when asked to give out information that could lead to others figuring out where they could strike him easiest and most horrendously.

astonerii on June 17, 2011 at 5:32 PM

thats my guv! 35K in taxes? yeesh. and here I thought my 10.5K was bad.

sbvft contributor on June 17, 2011 at 5:34 PM

Good for him. It is none of their sodding business, and not just for security reasons.

Uncle Sams Nephew on June 17, 2011 at 5:38 PM

Great answers. He has “choice”

Obama uses private school also.

seven on June 17, 2011 at 5:53 PM

Hey Allah – your idea of “alpha male” is a guy who predominately displays this kind of “courage” when the questioner is a woman? These Chris Christy moments of “awesomeness” seem to primarily feature WOMEN as the ones being beat down.

HondaV65 on June 17, 2011 at 3:57 PM

How sexist can you get?? She’s a reporter. She has a mouth, and the poor, little lady doesn’t need protection from a man if the questions get too hard. “That bad man made me sad and scared. I needed a big, strong man to stand up for me!”

di butler on June 17, 2011 at 6:01 PM

Voters like a fightin’ alpha male, even when he’s behaved like a cretin, but only if he’s a Leftist.

FTFY.

nukemhill on June 17, 2011 at 6:41 PM

(Apologies for the length, but not the substance)

A recent note from a childhood friend who used to work in a NJ state agency:

Re The union’s outcry of being mistreated–a colossal joke

This infuriates me!!!! First let me say I understand why we originally needed unions; however, as with almost everything else in this country, we’ve gone too far in the opposite direction. The unions protect the slackers. The good workers, for the most part, don’t need protection.

Please take the below seriously–I think it all contributed to making me physically ill. I wish I could say to Governor Christie, “I’ll show you how you can cut spending in this state–get rid of half of these union workers.” He’s on the right track. That said, I do feel sorry for the union people I know who do work. Below is an example of the actual inside workings of a union environment.

I worked in a semi government agency, for almost 25 years. Let’s start at the beginning. Initially I was in the union (I had no choice–I was TOLD that the job I was put in was a union job).

When I was doing my job too quickly, I was told by my union coworker, “Slow down, you’re working too fast.” Do you know it takes more effort to force yourself to “slow down” than it does to work normally???????

My work day began at 9 a.m. Do you know that if I started any work at five to nine my coworker would tell me to stop until 9:00???

Do you know that if I called another department before 9 a.m. I would be told by the secretary in that department (who foolishly picked up the phone) that she didn’t start until 9:00???

Do you know that if I spilled something and tried to wipe it up I was told not to, that that was someone else’s job?

Do you know that when I was asked to work overtime and was working too quickly, I was told by my coworkers, “Slow down–you’re on overtime now.”

These few examples are the mindset of the typical union people I had the misfortune of working with!!!! Are you starting to see the insanity I was dealing with?

A few years into this horror I managed to get a non-union position. When I was put in charge of a few union workers I really saw the insanity.

One employee I was in charge of who was a horrible worker reported me for not asking him how his vacation was. He reported me for not liking the look on my face when I asked him to do something. He reported me for picking on him (a current favorite claim of employees who are not performing). He threatened to have me sued.

This particular employee was a known problem in all the departments he worked in prior to coming to our department. Oh, did I mention that within the union environment we had no choice but to take him because the job was posted and he had the most union seniority? If you don’t document a problem employee right from the beginning, they just get passed through the system until it’s almost impossible to get rid of them.

None of the managers would use him because his work was so bad, thereby putting all the work on a “good” union worker (who, by the way, would be making the same salary and doing all the bad worker’s work–equality and all that crap!!!!!) Anyway, when I told the managers that they MUST use the incompetent worker also, they were all mad at me. One day I caught one of the managers doing his own work and I told him, “Art, you have to keep giving the work back to him with corrections–that’s the only way he’ll learn anything.” Know what he said to me? “I do give the work back to him with corrections, but he makes the corrections and gives it back to me with NEW errors in the document. It’s just easier to do it myself.” And so it goes. By the time my department was saddled with him, he’d been there probably 20 years and had just been passed from one department to the next. His previous department’s secretary told me that she had tried to have her boss do something about this worker when he was in their department but, of course, the boss didn’t want to be bothered.

Therein lies the bigger issue. If managers are to spend their days documenting these employees to build a case for firing them, you can see where they’d get nothing else accomplished. Also, I’ve had managers tell me that they’re very aware of a problem but don’t want themselves or their families subjected to a lawsuit. If, at the management level, someone does have the b_ _ _ s to pursue trying to fire a problem employee, it’s usually overturned by administration because THEY don’t want a lawsuit–THEY don’t want their name in the paper. I’ve also watched managers bring employees first to a low level hearing, then to a higher level hearing, at which point the hearing officer doesn’t want to be responsible for someone losing their livelihood so instead of firing them gives them a few days suspension. At that rate, the employee has gone through the system and is retired with full pension and benefits before ever being let go for their inadequate performance.

I’ve seen two “ladies” have a fistfight in my department with people watching with virtually no repercussions for their behavior. I’ve seen and heard an employee use the most vile language to and about his boss very openly and there was a big “to do” and lawyers were called to the department to take statements. Guess what, that employee is still there.

Lastly, when I walked around our department I’d see people literally sleeping, reading books, playing solitaire, on personal calls, having parties, standing around talking, etc. This was not a 15-minute thing–most employees do that–this was an all day occurrence with most of them. Even with those I considered my friends at work, anytime I’d walk into their offices I’d find them reading books or doing crossword puzzles. Could a “real” company stay in business like this?

The absolute clincher was when my boss, for some unknown reason, put two known troublemakers right in front of my office, and I had to watch and listen to them, seven hours a day, partying and doing nothing. If I told you their salaries you’d be appalled. Everyone in the department felt sorry for me and wondered why he put them there. When it got to the point that I couldn’t focus on my work and told my boss, guess what the solution was. Not to chastise the problem workers–you might get sued. Build walls around me so I didn’t have to watch them. Two managers who had been in offices behind those particular employees had to have their offices moved because of the nonsense that was going on. Many of the poor unemployed people in this country would work their tails off to have these cushy high-paying jobs, while these union people consider it their right, do nothing all day, and demand promotions to boot!!!!!

I don’t think this goes on in all union environments–probably just local, state, federal and the “agencies.” My father was in a union. When he got a bad worker, he just sent him back to the union hall–no questions asked. My brother, although not in the union, is in a heavily union environment. Same thing with him–if the employee does something wrong or doesn’t perform satisfactorily, my brother can fire him. There’s none of this babying people. The private sector has to make a profit to stay in business–not so for government!!!!!!!

I left my job before I was eligible for all my benefits–I could no longer witness the insanity without losing my own sanity…………………

fred5678 on June 17, 2011 at 6:47 PM

That was a good answer.

A better answer would have been “What? Of course not!”

HitNRun on June 17, 2011 at 6:52 PM

But it is people’s business to ask questions of their public servants, Guv.

Obnoxious public servants, who live on the taxpayer buck, may seem cute, at times, when they get testy, but are just pushing their luck with this level of cheap bluster.

profitsbeard on June 17, 2011 at 7:00 PM

keep the change on June 17, 2011 at 4:58 PM

Um, no. She was challenging him, basically asking if he was comfortable cutting public education because his kids go to private school.

It was a BS question.

nickj116 on June 17, 2011 at 7:02 PM

The more I see of Christie, the less I like. He is spectacular at cutting spending and standing up to the unions, but he’s a bully at heart and would be a disaster as a national candidate.

BocaJuniors on June 17, 2011 at 7:05 PM

Re BocaJuniors:

He is spectacular at cutting spending and standing up to the unions

That’s enough for me.

Dingbat63 on June 17, 2011 at 8:26 PM

Chris Christie pays his taxes unlike say Timmy Geithner, and a multitude of people Obama tried to stack his cabinet with, like Tom Daschel. That means Christ Christie is paying for his children’s private Catholic school education, and he’s paying his taxes for the New Jersey public school system. He’s right, it’s nobody’s business, if he and his wife wanted to home school, it still wouldn’t be anyone’s business. Being Governor doesn’t mean you have to explain your families decisions to anyone. Last time I looked, the Obama’s girls were in private school. I don’t care it’s their business it’s their responsibility to make sure their children get an education. Personal Responsibility. Lead by example.

Dr Evil on June 17, 2011 at 9:11 PM

Re BocaJuniors:

He is spectacular at cutting spending and standing up to the unions

That’s enough for me.

Dingbat63 on June 17, 2011 at 8:26 PM

Sure, but you can stand up to unions and cut spending without being an a-hole to constituents.

BocaJuniors on June 17, 2011 at 10:10 PM

Sure, but you can stand up to unions and cut spending without being an a-hole to constituents.

BocaJuniors on June 17, 2011 at 10:10 PM

it seems if your name is christie you can’t

unseen on June 17, 2011 at 11:07 PM

Unseen and Boca, you think telling someone who asked a hypocritical gotcha question that it’s none of their business is rude? Guess what geniuses, IT ISN’T ANY OF HER BUSINESS!
No wonder the GOP is in such sad shape. Gutless *ussies like yourselves bashing those who do what is long overdue-fighting back.

Hard Right on June 17, 2011 at 11:36 PM

And the answer is…
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“Because that’s how I get to avoid having my kids in the same school as your little monsters.”
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The rest was smokescreen…
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RalphyBoy on June 18, 2011 at 1:05 AM

fred5678 on June 17, 2011 at 6:47 PM

Read the whole thing and I believe every word of it.

Unfortunately.

This world is upside down.

Last night I was talking to a good friend (wonderful and sensible woman) whose husband is a teacher here in NJ.

She was saying how upset the teachers were with Christie changing the retirement health insurance benefits for teachers who had under 25 years of service. Right now all teachers and their spouses get this deluxe health insurance for the rest of their lives. Now this may be cut for younger teachers who haven’t been on the job 25 years.

I said, “but they still can get Medicare, right?”

I mean they aren’t going to be out in the street with no health insurance, right?

Meanwhile, my husband is still unemployed and we have to pay COBRA and still pay our high property taxes that fund these deluxe teacher benefits. Little or no contribution to premiums and little or no copays. Like they live in another past century.

And multiply my situation by millions of people.

Elisa on June 18, 2011 at 1:32 AM

Elisa on June 18, 2011 at 1:32 AM

sorry I wasn’t clear here. The cuts are for when the teachers retire, not now while they are still working.

Elisa on June 18, 2011 at 1:34 AM

The more I see of Christie, the less I like. He is spectacular at cutting spending and standing up to the unions, but he’s a bully at heart and would be a disaster as a national candidate.

BocaJuniors on June 17, 2011 at 7:05 PM

Exactly. I’ve been pleasantly surprised with Christie when it comes to unions and budgets. but he enjoys hearing himself talk tough. He could dial it down and be more controlled and still be strong and get his message across. He may not be reelected and yet he has a winning issue here in NJ. He had no other choice than to go after the teachers’ union here. We have reached the end of our rope economically here with property taxes.

He likes these confrontations. That’s not the same thing as being brave in the face of advisaries. I think he would get more people on our side if he was strong and firm, but not rude.

He could even say the same words with less anger and distain. Like using a gentle tone and saying, “with all due respect, Maam, it’s really not any of your business where I send my kids to school . . .” He added the “due respect” a little bit too late. lol there was obviously no respect.

Elisa on June 18, 2011 at 1:43 AM

I’m surprised that nobody has asked Christie this question before now. It seems really obvious.

JimC on June 18, 2011 at 4:51 PM

She asked why his kids didn’t go to public school

No, she did not ask that. Listen to the clip again.

The salient point is that you never show anger. Anger is a sign of weakness, especially when he, as the guest on the call in show, has the upper hand. It would have been so easy to tell the woman why the schools should have their funding cut, without getting defensive about anything.

This was a bad play on his part. Which is doubly bad coming off his helicopter entrance to his son’s baseball game. It’s called bad optics. And when a politician makes a move that results in bad optics, when such a move was not necessary, it reveals bad judgment.

And I like Christie, but I have to call a spade a spade.

keep the change on June 18, 2011 at 4:58 PM

Unseen and Boca, you think telling someone who asked a hypocritical gotcha question that it’s none of their business is rude? Guess what geniuses, IT ISN’T ANY OF HER BUSINESS!

Hard Right on June 17, 2011 at 11:36 PM

It wasn’t a hypocritical or gotcha question. She knew that his kids go to private schools. She said as much in the question. The “none of your business” line from Christie was gratuitous and unnecessary. The rest of his answer was fine, explaining why his kids go to religious schools and saying he is responsible for every kid’s education in NJ.

A light touch goes a long way. You don’t have to be a jerk to be principled and tough. See: Reagan.

BocaJuniors on June 18, 2011 at 6:54 PM

He likes these confrontations. That’s not the same thing as being brave in the face of advisaries. I think he would get more people on our side if he was strong and firm, but not rude.

Elisa on June 18, 2011 at 1:43 AM

Amen.

BocaJuniors on June 18, 2011 at 6:57 PM

Christie was mondo impressive in this exchange. She tries to put him down, and he makes all the political 3-pointers he can manage to make in under a minute.

I think he would get more people on our side if he was strong and firm, but not rude.

Elisa on June 18, 2011 at 1:43 AM

“Gail” was the one who began the rudeness — framing a put-down as a question. Christie responds with facts — and some pretty impressive ones. A $38K annual property tax bill is a hefty chunk of change, so Christie is certainly contributing a bundle to the public school system. That Christie’s kids don’t go to a public school can be counted as a plus — they are not consuming resources, which can then be applied to other children.

New Jersey spends about a third of its budget on education, and in a bad economy, all departments of the state should share the burden, including education. In California, education is an entitlement of nearly 40% of the budget and there is no way for the Legislature or the Governor to decrease that burden; it’s in our Constitution. At least NJ doesn’t have that kind of sacred albatross hanging from its neck….

unclesmrgol on June 19, 2011 at 1:15 AM

Christie is wrong on this one.

Really Right on June 17, 2011 at 4:46 PM

Her question wasn’t relative, so why was he wrong? He told her why she was wrong and returned the proper amount of vitriol based on her snotty question. The way she frame the (so called) question is a favorite tactic of the left to cower the opposition shut down debate.

whbates on June 19, 2011 at 9:31 PM

. . .Christie responds with facts . .

unclesmrgol on June 19, 2011 at 1:15 AM

If he had responded with just the facts, that would have been fine. He was right in his answer.

Look at the video again. He didn’t just respond with the facts. He responded with unnecessary contempt and rudeness. He needs to learn control in his answers. He has the right message (on this issue), but he is losing the debate here in NJ. I live here. I want his message (on this) to win. But he may not win reelection and the other cowardly politicians we have here will run away from the issue.

Make now mistake. Christie had no choice but to cut teacher packages. More than half my property taxes go to education here because the teachers unions have a stranglehold on it.

But it was real conservatives like Bret Schundler and Steve Lonagan here who pushed Christie in the right direction. Then he just liked hearing his own voice.

He needs to learn maturity and control or he will win a couple battles only to lose the war for us in the end.

Elisa on June 20, 2011 at 1:02 AM

Just watched “Waiting for Superman” rented from a Red Box over this past weekend. Why on earth would ANYONE send their child to a public school?

olesparkie on June 20, 2011 at 9:39 AM

fred5678 on June 17, 2011 at 6:47 PM

Can we dump or cut down on the hopeless war on drugs and send the cops after waste in the government?

I worked in local gov’t and there are good people there. There is also corruption and the kind of mess you described.

A real shame since the programs have the best intentions.

IlikedAUH2O on June 20, 2011 at 10:25 AM

I am smiling from ear to ear right now after seeing that!!!

jeffn21 on June 20, 2011 at 10:26 AM

Can we dump or cut down on the hopeless war on drugs and send the cops after waste in the government?

IlikedAUH2O on June 20, 2011 at 10:25 AM

1. That isn’t the job of the police.

2. If by ‘dump or cut down’ you mean ‘quit trying to bust every single luser and hit the suppliers instead’, I’m all for it. It’s painfully obvious by now that we can’t stop the demand, so we either stop the supply or surrender entirely.

Uncle Sams Nephew on June 20, 2011 at 12:55 PM

Funny how Christie is to be commended for his response but Sarah Palin’s diplomatic and genial calling out of the media makes her “thin-skinned” and “hypersensitive”.

OlympicLeprechaun on June 20, 2011 at 8:44 PM

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