Epic: AARP signals that it’s willing to accept benefit cuts in Social Security

posted at 9:39 pm on June 17, 2011 by Allahpundit

I’ve been sitting on this story all day just because I can’t bring myself to believe that the Death Star of entitlements might actually be willing, however grudgingly, to do the right thing. There has to be an angle. Maybe they’re conceding a tiny bit on Social Security to seem “reasonable” so that they can then leverage that reasonableness into an all-out defense of Medicare against Paul Ryan and the GOP?

This can’t possibly be as sane as it looks. Can it?

AARP, the powerful lobbying group for older Americans, is dropping its longstanding opposition to cutting Social Security benefits, a move that could rock Washington’s debate over how to revamp the nation’s entitlement programs.

The decision, which AARP hasn’t discussed publicly, came after a wrenching debate inside the organization. In 2005, the last time Social Security was debated, AARP led the effort to kill President George W. Bush’s plan for partial privatization. AARP now has concluded that change is inevitable, and it wants to be at the table to try to minimize the pain

“If they come around and say they’re ready to do something, it will be like the Arctic icecap cracking,” said former Sen. Alan Simpson, co-chairman of a White House commission on the deficit. He has frequently assailed the group as a barrier to progress…

To win [its members] over, AARP is preparing coast-to-coast town-hall meetings to explain the problem and the possible solutions

There are limits to how far AARP is willing to go. The group will accept cuts, but won’t champion them, and it is particularly leery of certain concepts such as eliminating benefits for wealthier recipients.

They want to expand the payroll tax to help pay for part of the S.S. shortfall but they’re finally, finally willing to bend on benefit cuts too in the interest of compromise. So dicey is this move for the group — one poll taken a few months pegged seniors’ opposition to benefit cuts at 84 percent — that they’re already issuing panicky statements insisting that their position on Social Security hasn’t changed. Follow the link and read the statement, though, and you’ll see that they never quite deny the Journal’s claim that they’re willing to support cuts. All they really say is that they’re focused, as always, on the program’s long-term fiscal solvency, which of course is the same logic Paul Ryan’s been using to justify his Medicare plan. And in fact, the NYT confirmed the Journal’s account in its own story later this afternoon.

The most significant part of this, I think, is the town halls AARP is planning, assuming they have the nerve to go through with them. The left’s Mediscare tactics depend on convincing seniors that the fiscal crisis isn’t sufficiently dire that we need to go digging into entitlements, that the GOP is exaggerating the magnitude to fulfill its agenda of dismantling the welfare state. That becomes much harder to do once you have seniors’ own lobbying arm telling them, no, in fact, we really are out of money and need to move towards reform in order to maximize benefits long-term. It’s a huge boost to fiscal hawks’ credibility with the most critical demographic on this issue. And yet … I still can’t help wondering if there’s a racket here. InstaGlenn is quite right that AARP is less of a lobbyist outfit these days than an insurance broker. That’s where most of their financial growth is, so it’s borderline suicidal for them to take a position that might anger thousands of members and lead to mass cancellation of AARP plans. I’m encouraged, yet mystified.

Via Andrew Stiles, this was uploaded to YouTube by AARP just two days ago. Dude?

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There has to be a campaign commercial to be made, show boomers getting everything they want at the expense of their own grandchildren.

Bishop on June 17, 2011 at 9:44 PM

This has been out a while, its why I figured you weren’t posting it:

They deny…

After the article was released, A. Barry Rand, the CEO of the organization released a statement saying, “AARP is as committed as we’ve ever been to fighting to protect Social Security for today’s seniors and strengthening it for future generations. Contrary to the misleading characterization in a recent media story, AARP has not changed its position on Social Security.”

TendStl on June 17, 2011 at 9:44 PM

First, aarp is no longer a lobbying group for Americans of any age. aarp has morphed into an insurance company.
Second, aarp’s support for obamacare should”ve made point 1 obvious.
Third, knowing the above, why would anyone be surprised at the SS development. aarp will design and sell annuities and other supplement income items to sell under it’s false flag…

Gohawgs on June 17, 2011 at 9:48 PM

Dear AARP- SCREW YOU.

I take great delight in mailing your postage paid cards back to you. You won’t get one thin dime from me.

gdonovan on June 17, 2011 at 9:51 PM

AARP Reversal!!

canopfor on June 17, 2011 at 9:52 PM

This is braindead simple; AARP doesn’t make their money from Social Security, they are getting filthy rich from healthcare, so they want to protect Obamacare at all costs. Social Security therefore goes under the bus.

slickwillie2001 on June 17, 2011 at 9:57 PM

Third, knowing the above, why would anyone be surprised at the SS development. aarp will design and sell annuities and other supplement income items to sell under it’s false flag…

Gohawgs on June 17, 2011 at 9:48 PM

Exactly. AARP already sells Medicare supplements, prescription drug plans, and life insurance. They will expand this to cover annuities and retirement investments to supplement/replace SS. AARP doesn’t care about seniors over 65. They are selling to the 50-64 age group where they can make money.

Deanna on June 17, 2011 at 9:57 PM

coast-to-coast town-hall meetings to explain the problem

What’s hard to explain? There is NO “social security lock box”. The money was spent by the government years ago. Either they start taking cuts, or the money runs out and they get NOTHING.

GarandFan on June 17, 2011 at 10:00 PM

I can’t imagine why a private insurance company would want the government to cut back its insurance program. It is almost as difficult to understand as Warren Buffer advocating for higher death taxes even though they would impact his life insurance customers so directly.

pedestrian on June 17, 2011 at 10:00 PM

Also, AARP could care less about Seniors who are dependent on SS because they have little disposable income. AARP will focus on those retirees or soon to be retirees who have better private pensions and/or savings with money to spend on AARP’s programs and policies.

Deanna on June 17, 2011 at 10:00 PM

Step 1: Act like you are concerned about the financial health of the country…that sells right now.

Step 2: Stand on sideline when painful reforms are promoted by responsible adults.

Step 3: Rise up and condemn any conservative reform when everybody is paying attention.

Step 4: Initiate fundraising campaign to capitalize on AARP’s tireless dedication to protect seniors.

Step 5: Rake in billions from royalties on selling BO waivered insurance policies.

David in ATL on June 17, 2011 at 10:02 PM

AARP: OK to Cut Medicare as Long as We Profit
Preposterous and Irresponsible Advertisement Exposes AARP’s True Motives: Mislead Seniors, Make Money
Thursday, June 16, 2011
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AARP is out with a new TV ad attacking Congressional Democrats and Republicans for considering policies that would extend the solvency of the Medicare program and reduce our nation’s staggering debt. In the ad AARP absurdly suggests the nation’s trillion dollar deficit and nearly $15 trillion debt can be solved by miniscule cuts to earmarks. This is hard to reconcile with AARP’s strong support last year of one-half trillion dollars in Medicare cuts in the Democrats’ health care overhaul, which Medicare and Obama Administration officials warn could jeopardize seniors’ access to health care. It just so happened that the bulk of these cuts will likely result in AARP growing their profits by more than $1 billion over the next 10 years.

So, to AARP, reducing Medicare spending is only acceptable when AARP benefits financially, regardless of how it impacts America’s seniors.

Then
*****
In a letter to Senators in 2009, AARP justified the more than one-half trillion dollars in Medicare cuts included in the Democrats’ health care overhaul:

“…AARP believes that savings can be found in Medicare through smart, targeted changes aimed at improving health care delivery, eliminating waste and inefficiency, and aggressively weeding out fraud and abuse. Such changes will help strengthen Medicare’s long-term financing…”
AARP CEO, Barry Rand, December 2009

Now
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In a recent email referencing discussions in Vice President Joe Biden’s debt working group to reduce Medicare spending:

“We must hold Congress accountable and demand that they…not cut the benefits millions of Americans rely on to make ends meet.”
AARP Advocacy e-mail, June 2011
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http://waysandmeans.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=247145

canopfor on June 17, 2011 at 10:05 PM

The most significant part of this, I think, is the town halls AARP is planning, assuming they have the nerve to go through with them.

LOL! Maybe they should just hide behind pseudonyms and conduct virtual town halls. ROTFLMAO!

Christien on June 17, 2011 at 10:11 PM

Dear AARP- SCREW YOU.

I take great delight in mailing your postage paid cards back to you. You won’t get one thin dime from me.

gdonovan on June 17, 2011 at 9:51 PM

Step 1: find a brick
Step 2: wrap and seal in a brown grocery bag/brown paper
Step 3: Paste the postage paid card to the outside
Step 4: Bring it INSIDE the Post Office and hand it to the clerk, saying “recipient guarantees postage”
Step 5: try and suppress the horselaugh until you get back into your car
Step 6: repeat with every postage paid mailer they send you

Khun Joe on June 17, 2011 at 10:12 PM

AARP Advocacy e-mail, June 2011
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http://waysandmeans.house.gov/UploadedFiles/AARP_Letter.pdf

canopfor on June 17, 2011 at 10:13 PM

AARP now has concluded that change is inevitable, and it wants to be at the table to try to minimize the pain…

The more you ease the pain on baby boomers the more pain you will inflict on younger Americans. The boomers are the demographic bubble that is about to crash down on this nation, we can’t fix these problems after they’re all on the dole, we have to fix it before. Otherwise it will be like saying that you’ll run for high ground after the Tsunami has already washed through. It’s too late then! If we fix this problem on the back of younger people who don’t comprise such a massive voting block, then we will be putting such a burden on younger people that many of us will just give up trying and go on the dole ourselves. (Except by that time this country will probably be such a police/nanny state that we’ll be forced to work whether we want to or not.)

FloatingRock on June 17, 2011 at 10:15 PM

Also, AARP could care less about Seniors who are dependent on SS because they have little disposable income. AARP will focus on those retirees or soon to be retirees who have better private pensions and/or savings with money to spend on AARP’s programs and policies.

Deanna on June 17, 2011 at 10:00 PM

They’ll also target the seniors’ adult children (people in their 30′s and 40′s, in their near-peak or peak earning years): Don’t let your aging parents try to scrape by on their meager SS income. Buy them an AARP annuity today, and show them how much you care!

We all know AARP only cares about feathering the nests of their executives. They couldn’t care less about the interests of seniors, or even the country for that matter. If they did, they would not have pushed for Obamacare.

AZCoyote on June 17, 2011 at 10:24 PM

AARP now has concluded that change is inevitable, and it wants to be at the table to try to minimize the pain make sure AARP can profit as much as possible from the inevitable change

Edited for accuracy.

AZCoyote on June 17, 2011 at 10:28 PM

Where’s Mattera and his giant gimmick invoice? LOL!

Christien on June 17, 2011 at 10:31 PM

Gee thanks, old people.

So long as it’s there for you, screw the rest of us, eh? pffffffffffffffffffffffffft

capejasmine on June 17, 2011 at 10:32 PM

This is not new. They have had this as policy since the 80s I think although they do not have specific recommendations. I think the only detail is that the changes are modest.

lexhamfox on June 17, 2011 at 11:13 PM

I’m always amazed when I meet ANYONE who depended on a Government-run Ponzi-scheme for their retirement.

Tim_CA on June 17, 2011 at 11:44 PM

, so it’s borderline suicidal for them to take a position that might anger thousands of members and lead to mass cancellation of AARP plans. I’m encouraged, yet mystified.

They’ve already lost thousands of members because of their support of Obamacare and the fact that they have some competition from AMAC, Association of Mature American Citizens. ( http://www.amac.us )

I get at least 4 solicitations a month since I canceled my AARP membership and joined AMAC.

Vince on June 18, 2011 at 1:03 AM

AARP only capitulates to conquer.

If they approve cuts in Social Security, it’s so they can scare old folkss that their lifetime benefits are going to lose value. Then AARP offers to give you cash today for your soc sec lifetime benefits for a fraction of its actuarial value. Then they sell these benefits at a profit to other less poor grammies and grampies who want to double or triple their QALY ratings.

It’s like Al Gore’s carbon offsets.

flicker on June 18, 2011 at 2:03 AM

I still enjoy sending back “not on your life” notes in the postage-paid envelope they send with their frequent invitations to join them. Explaining that I don’t like their selling us out to Obamacare.

Alana on June 18, 2011 at 4:05 AM

Old woman to old man: Ezra dear,are you one of the AARP people?

Old Man:Can’t say that I know fer sure. I don’t remember dying and gettin wings.

Old Woman: Ezra dear -not harp people – it’s a company.

Old Man: Sure, bring em over – What will you make for dinner?

Old Woman: Oh Ezra, it’s about paying for your sicknesses.

Old man:I just knew they’d send the danged bill up here.

Don L on June 18, 2011 at 4:43 AM

Could it be that AARP management – like their brethren in union leadership – never gave a damn about the rank and file in the first place, and that so long as the honchos and their top cronies keep getting theirs the lives of everyone at the bottom are fair game?

Blacksheep on June 18, 2011 at 7:42 AM

They want to expand the payroll tax to help pay for part of the S.S. shortfall but they’re finally, finally willing to bend on benefit cuts too in the interest of compromise.

It isn’t the cut in benefits they are looking for: they want to expand the tax burden to working Americans.

During a prolonged economic downturn.

Pay more, get less.

All of this for a system that eats through money and has ‘cross your fingers’ IOU’s from the Treasury to fall back on. That money will already come from current receipts to make good the IOU’s. SSA is in the red, now, because it cannot invest, is not a lock box, and we decided that taxing gains on investment was a ‘smart’ thing to do for revenue. Thus we ask the younger and employed to pay for those who should have been saving for their old age because there is supposed to be some wisdom garnered with getting old.

We tax thrift.

We take money from young families to let the government get a middle-man’s cut and then hand over the remainder, sans the cut, to the ‘elderly’.

We don’t encourage the ‘elderly’ to save as they get to that state of being and, instead, tax gains from investments.

This is corruption and destruction of society on a wholesale level.

AARP probably wants to sell some sort of SSA-gap insurance and wants it to look like they love seniors while, in fact, they just want another insurance package that will convince people to pay someone ELSE to give them money for ‘retirement’. Create a ‘donut hole’ so that your filler will go right into it, then convince people they have to pay YOU for the filler…

Tell you what, let’s let people decide on how they want to invest, don’t punish them and let them figure out when or even if they want to ‘retire’. Older people should be able to understand the concept of saving for the future as they mature. Cut off new entry into SSA, make it a pure spending program, abolish ‘retirement age’, don’t tax investment gains and let liberty and freedom work its course through this Nation. We are on hook for our personal security, and we should not trust any government that cannot even secure our common borders.

ajacksonian on June 18, 2011 at 7:47 AM

AARP is the biggest scam artist in the country taking the elderly’s exorbitant amounts of money for insurance etc. all the while pretending to be their champion. Also they are in cahoots with Obama to defraud seniors even more.

Herb on June 18, 2011 at 9:25 AM

Dear AARP- SCREW YOU.

I take great delight in mailing your postage paid cards back to you. You won’t get one thin dime from me.

gdonovan on June 17, 2011 at 9:51 PM

Step 1: find a brick
Step 2: wrap and seal in a brown grocery bag/brown paper
Step 3: Paste the postage paid card to the outside
Step 4: Bring it INSIDE the Post Office and hand it to the clerk, saying “recipient guarantees postage”
Step 5: try and suppress the horselaugh until you get back into your car
Step 6: repeat with every postage paid mailer they send you

Khun Joe on June 17, 2011 at 10:12 PM

Farrr out man !!!!

BruceB on June 18, 2011 at 9:27 AM

It’s a simple case of reality crashing into parts of AARP. There is just no real support (the NutRoots notwithstanding) for a payroll tax of nearly 16%, which is what will be required to continue the benefits as scheduled after 2030.

As TendStl points out, even when elements of AARP seem willing to make compromises on SocSec, they get cut off at the knees.

Steve Eggleston on June 18, 2011 at 9:33 AM

AARP signals that it’s willing to accept benefit cuts in Social Security

The only people who are surprised by this are those who have not been paying attention!!!

The AARP is a “false flag” liberal front group masquerading as an organization for seniors. In fact, it sells insurance, then lists the insurance clients as “members,” and falsely represents its own political positions as its “members’” positions. AARP actually does not care what its “members” think, and does not really have any mechanism for even finding out what its “members” want. Most of its “members” thought that they were just buying insurance, and had no intention of allowing their insurance company to take political positions on their behalf!!

Don’t any of you remember the “original Medicare B” debacle, where AARP went to Congress to demand a mandatory program with mandatory monthly costs (a significant portion of which “coincidently” happened to flow to an AARP “affiliate”)? Congress foolishly believed the AARP, passed the bill, and seniors immediately revolted!!! The bill was hastily repealed after the Washington phone lines were melted and congressional offices besieged by millions of angry seniors…who were never actually consulted on the plan, and who had better uses for the money which would be taken from their retirement funds.

AARP is not run by seniors. It is run by a small number of left-wing Democrats, and it is in business to funnel money to them and the DNC.

When you think of “AARP,” think “ACORN Senior”: you’ll be close to the mark!!!

landlines on June 18, 2011 at 11:11 AM

Allah,

Maybe you missed Morrissey’s piece on AARP last month?

Kokonut on June 18, 2011 at 12:15 PM

To win [its members] over, AARP is preparing coast-to-coast town-hall meetings to explain the problem and the possible solutions…

Of course, because their town-hall meetings to explain ObamaCare were so successful.

I object to AARP being called a lobby group for older Americans. It’s a lobby group for AARP and its many commercial enterprises.

SukieTawdry on June 18, 2011 at 12:20 PM

Allah,

Maybe you missed Morrissey’s piece on AARP last month?

Kokonut on June 18, 2011 at 12:15 PM

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I can see your memory is still good… You are not the drone they seek… ; )
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RalphyBoy on June 18, 2011 at 12:37 PM

Shun the AARP in all ways possible. They are no different than the union thugs.

Schadenfreude on June 18, 2011 at 12:53 PM

AARP stopped representing the best interests of the elderly many years ago. Obamacare proved they are nothing, but a leftist tool used by progressives with no mission to serve. They are on the same level to the elderly as the AMA is to doctors.

volsense on June 18, 2011 at 2:21 PM