Could Weiner escape ethics probe by resigning and running for seat again? Update: Weiner to hold presser at 2 ET; Update: Video added
posted at 1:25 pm on June 16, 2011 by Ed Morrissey
Could Anthony Weiner’s resignation be an elaborate effort to return to Congress free of the threat of an ethics probe? Patterico first asked this question on Twitter after word of Weiner’s decision to resign became known, but Josh Chafetz first analyzed the potential of such a strategy yesterday for Slate. Such a strategy could work, and in fact has worked in the past:
There is a long tradition in Anglo-American legislative practice that the voters should have the final say on ethical matters. In England in 1764, John Wilkes was expelled from the House of Commons for a series of “scandalous” publications. He fled to France for several years, but returned to London in 1768 and stood for Parliament. He won, but was not allowed to take his seat, and a new election was ordered. He won again, and again, and again. After his fourth consecutive victory, the House simply declared his opponent the victor. But Wilkes kept standing for election, all the time growing more popular as a symbol of public discontent at the ruling elite. “Wilkes and Liberty!” was a rallying cry in London and the colonies, and finally the House bowed to public pressure and seated Wilkes in 1774.
Eight years later, all records of Wilkes’ continued exclusions from Parliament were expunged from the House of Commons Journal “as being subversive of the rights of the whole body of electors of this kingdom.” The Wilkes affair was understood to stand for the constitutional principle that no one should be expelled twice for the same offense—if the voters had forgiven him, who were the other members of Parliament to say no?
At the time the American Constitution was drafted, all three state constitutions that contained an explicit power of expulsion (Delaware, Maryland, and Pennsylvania) prohibited a second expulsion for the same offense. An early draft of the Constitution contained the same limitation on the congressional houses’ expulsion power, but that limitation was dropped in later revisions. Still, it is widely understood that any body seeking to re-expel a re-elected member would be in serious tension with constitutional values, if not in explicit contravention of constitutional text.
In 1857, Rep. Orsamus Matteson, a Whig from New York (what is it with my home state?), resigned to escape an expulsion resolution arising from corruption allegations. He promptly ran for and was re-elected to his old seat. In the debates over whether to expel him again, the Wilkes precedent was repeatedly invoked, and ultimately the House took no action. Likewise, Rep. Preston Brooks of South Carolina, who caned Sen. Charles Sumner nearly to death on the Senate floor in 1856, survived an expulsion resolution. Nevertheless, he chose to resign and seek re-election, seeking his constituents’ blessing of his behavior. They gave it, re-electing him, and he was seated without controversy less than a month after he resigned.
Of course, it’s worth noting that Congress could choose to ignore its precedent, as there is no bar on seeking a new expulsion order for issues in a previous term. But in this case, expulsion was an unlikely outcome anyway. Weiner wasn’t accused of corruption or abuse of power, but mainly of being an embarrassment to Democrats in particular and Congress in general. Congress refused to expel Charlie Rangel last year, who was accused of corruption, and they haven’t even addressed the case of Maxine Waters, who is accused of abusing her power for personal financial gain. Not only did the House not expel William “Cold Cash” Jefferson, they didn’t even strip him of all his committee assignments, even though he was later convicted of corruption.
So it seems pretty unlikely that this is a grand strategy by Weiner to shed himself of an ethics probe. Supposing for the moment that Weiner has that strategy in mind, it’s even less likely to succeed, for a couple of reasons. One, NY-09 is a safe Democratic district, held by the same party for almost 90 years. Democrats will find a strong candidate for an upcoming special election, and Weiner’s peccadilloes will almost certainly keep him from gaining any traction at all if he chooses to challenge for his old seat. Democrats don’t need Weiner to hold the seat, and even if constituents wanted him to stand his ground, they’re not going to remain that loyal to a man who has porn stars scolding his lack of ethics. Second, the district may disappear anyway for the 2012 election as New York has to redistrict for two lost seats in the House. If Weiner is still embarrassing Democrats by that time, they have a handy way of making that a temporary condition.
Don’t expect Weiner to return to electoral politics any time soon. I’d guess that Weiner has a job lined up already that will keep his profile low, and that was the price for his upcoming resignation.
Update: Reports on Twitter say that the Capitol police have Weiner’s office and the corridor in the Rayburn Building closed because of a “suspicious package.” Meanwhile, Weiner has scheduled a press conference for 2 pm ET, and I’ll find an embed code to carry it live here.
Update II: I couldn’t find a live video feed, but here’s the video of Weiner’s statement from ABC:
He certainly sounded like a man who thinks he still has a future in politics. The first part of this statement sounded like a stump speech. I’m not sure that getting cheers from the resignation and a hearty “Bye-bye, pervert!” is a sign of any remaining political capital.









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When I look at his disgrace, I remember how he used to try to verbally abuse all the Fox Anchors…and I smile.
kingsjester on June 16, 2011 at 2:27 PM
What an idiot to think that after what he’s done, he could go out with dignity. Yet another indication of how deluded he is. Maybe the cat-callers got through his thick skull and he has a glimmering of how disgusting decent people think he is.
ProfessorMiao on June 16, 2011 at 2:28 PM
He took no questions. What a _________rhymes with hick synomym of “weiner”.
Really Right on June 16, 2011 at 2:28 PM
Bwaaa haaa haa!!
Heckler trumps Weiner!
portlandon on June 16, 2011 at 2:28 PM
Alan Colmes does not know what his behavior has been..
Roy Rogers on June 16, 2011 at 2:28 PM
What an idiot. He thanked his parents for his values.
Dubn8tr on June 16, 2011 at 2:28 PM
One Weiner down; 192 dicks to go.
ElectricPhase on June 16, 2011 at 2:28 PM
Yes, the lib media is up in arms about Weiner getting heckled, yet triumphed when the guy threw the shoes at Bush. Go figure.
carbon_footprint on June 16, 2011 at 2:29 PM
So now we know who to blame for this.
Doughboy on June 16, 2011 at 2:29 PM
“live by sword, die by the sword”….heh
d1carter on June 16, 2011 at 2:29 PM
I really hopes he runs again. This is too much fun.
angryed on June 16, 2011 at 2:29 PM
The country has lost a Weiner today…!
Seven Percent Solution on June 16, 2011 at 2:30 PM
Chuck Todd can’t believe he resigned….heh
cmsinaz on June 16, 2011 at 2:30 PM
Dangit, I missed it. Is there a link to a recording of it?
playblu on June 16, 2011 at 2:30 PM
Yeah, Ms. Megyn Kelly is probably enjoying her day a bit more.
carbon_footprint on June 16, 2011 at 2:30 PM
Colmes: Counseling for what, being horny…?
d1carter on June 16, 2011 at 2:31 PM
Just goes to show that he still doesn’t get it.
ProfessorMiao on June 16, 2011 at 2:31 PM
They are actually showing footage of the heckler on Fox.
carbon_footprint on June 16, 2011 at 2:32 PM
Twenty years, huh… Term limits would solve a lot of problems.
Fallon on June 16, 2011 at 2:32 PM
With unemployment so high, Weiner will soon find stiff competition in the job market. Things are hard out there.
carbon_footprint on June 16, 2011 at 2:33 PM
The only Democrat who could mount a serious primary challenge to Weiner is this guy.
Emperor Norton on June 16, 2011 at 2:33 PM
Oh the lib media is upset at the heckler…
cmsinaz on June 16, 2011 at 2:34 PM
Wasn’t it yesterday that some of the D leaders in the House were talking of pulling Weiner from committees?
Can you imagine that guy with nothing to do all day in his office?
No… wait… I actually can and its not a pretty thought…
But, more importantly, so could he and that thought must have been pretty bad for him, too.
ajacksonian on June 16, 2011 at 2:34 PM
Forked.
the_nile on June 16, 2011 at 2:34 PM
Let’s not forget the left-wing militants who shout down conservatives like Ann Coulter til she’s forced to cancel speaking engagements at college campuses. Or the ones who throw pies at her when she manages to make it to one of her speeches. Or how about that dude who tried to pelt Palin with a tomato?
I don’t recall any outrage. And unlike Weiner, they didn’t do anything unethical or sleazy.
Doughboy on June 16, 2011 at 2:35 PM
So I guess that announcement over the weekend “Weiner has left for help at an undisclosed location” was another lie?
Knucklehead on June 16, 2011 at 2:35 PM
That just about redefines laughable.
“Pot, meet Kettle.”
CurtZHP on June 16, 2011 at 2:35 PM
Exactly, or when Code Pink heckled Condi Rice at an official government event and that nut came within inches of her face screaming: “war criminal!”.
carbon_footprint on June 16, 2011 at 2:37 PM
The Liberals just received a taste of their own medicine today…and they did not like it at all. LOL.
kingsjester on June 16, 2011 at 2:37 PM
Colmes to call Keith O. and ask to borrow some bubble bath.
carbon_footprint on June 16, 2011 at 2:38 PM
Weiner is trying to walk out dressed only in his undies.
csdeven on June 16, 2011 at 2:39 PM
The chickens are coming home to tweet
Roy Rogers on June 16, 2011 at 2:39 PM
For all who did not see the presser, RCP has a story and video here.
carbon_footprint on June 16, 2011 at 2:40 PM
I missed the actual event but I understanding someone from Howard Stern show was yelling stuff. what was he yelling?
ramrants on June 16, 2011 at 2:40 PM
They never do.
Rational Thought on June 16, 2011 at 2:41 PM
Or how about when hecklers snuck into the 2004 and 2008 GOP conventions and interrupted Bush and McCain’s acceptance speeches? I recall Peter Jennings actually defending the 2004 hecklers as people who were merely exercising their 1st Amendment rights.
Doughboy on June 16, 2011 at 2:41 PM
Been a bad few weeks for the libs. Obama flailing. Republicans with impressive debate. Wisconsin court upholding Governor Scott’s law. Weinergate. They know that their days are numbered and that the good times are over for them.
carbon_footprint on June 16, 2011 at 2:41 PM
Weiner has the ego of 10,000 men which by resigning may cause the unemployment rate to sky rocket, yet again! Nice work!
glennbo on June 16, 2011 at 2:42 PM
Oh, and who could forget the great NYT/WaPo groupsource fiasco. They couldn’t find dirt on Palin. They actually helped her image, internationally.
carbon_footprint on June 16, 2011 at 2:43 PM
Weiner Cheered And Heckled At Presser Announcing His Resignation
Knucklehead on June 16, 2011 at 2:43 PM
Does the media now have Weiner envy…?
Seven Percent Solution on June 16, 2011 at 2:44 PM
Indeed KJ
cmsinaz on June 16, 2011 at 2:44 PM
Good recall Doughboy
No worries for those with an R next their name
cmsinaz on June 16, 2011 at 2:47 PM
“Weiner cheered and heckled”?
The “cheering” was when he announced he would resign, as in, “Yay, don’t let the door hit ya on the way out.” Stupid media.
Rational Thought on June 16, 2011 at 2:48 PM
what a circus.
BTW. Ace has embargoed this story and is PO’d at his commenters.
ted c on June 16, 2011 at 2:51 PM
I thought that’s why he’s resigning. Ba dum chhh.
JavelinaBomb on June 16, 2011 at 2:51 PM
What, is he tweeting again?
crushliberalism on June 16, 2011 at 2:51 PM
The Anthony Weiner Hustle
Roy Rogers on June 16, 2011 at 2:55 PM
Really? Amid scandal, US Republican Weiner to step down:
Reuters
entropent on June 16, 2011 at 2:56 PM
DCCC just mailed out to journalists talking about how solidly Democrat the Weiner district is.
If it really were, they wouldn’t have to send out an email. They’re scared.
Red Cloud on June 16, 2011 at 2:57 PM
How long will it be until Huma has some Weiner…?
Seven Percent Solution on June 16, 2011 at 2:59 PM
Apparently someone yelled, “Are you more than seven inches?”
Wethal on June 16, 2011 at 3:00 PM
Looks like an innocent mistake “Republican” vs “Representative” /sarc
Plausible deniability?
glennbo on June 16, 2011 at 3:01 PM
Freudian slip…
entropent on June 16, 2011 at 3:02 PM
Beyond the primary either would have stiff competition from that NY Republican chair dude named Cox
clnurnberg on June 16, 2011 at 3:03 PM
Hopefully he’ll save his marriage and avoid future “distraction”.
He needs to heal? How about his wife that is not standing with him?
Hening on June 16, 2011 at 3:07 PM
That’s the only shtick he knows. Who he is as a person is overwhelmed by his shtick. Getting on the House floor, screaming. So much of his public life was an act. I hope he’s more than just a pervert. I know he is. It’s in there, somewhere.
Paul-Cincy on June 16, 2011 at 3:08 PM
That, or intentional but easily dismissed as an innocent mistake. I have a screen cap and will pass along to “authorities” for maximum exploitation ;o)
glennbo on June 16, 2011 at 3:08 PM
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It must have been stuffed with cotton! ba dum BUM !!!!!
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And yes, I’m piling on but he deserves it!
ExpressoBold on June 16, 2011 at 3:12 PM
A lot of MSM news outlets are now ‘accidentally’ calling Weiner a Republican.
What they’d give if he were.
Schadenfreude on June 16, 2011 at 3:21 PM
And when something is too dirty to be a thread at AoS…
teke184 on June 16, 2011 at 3:21 PM
Mistakes ??? I love it when they call these things “mistakes” – NO – It is NOT a mistake. IT was DELIBERATE !!! A mistake is when you accidentally hit “reply to all” instead of “reply” on an e-mail. This jerk deliberately sent porno images of himself to women and young girls – it was DELIBERATE – NOT a mistake.
LODGE4 on June 16, 2011 at 3:23 PM
For those of us who enjoy a deserved cumeuppance for an arrogant person of any stripe or persuation, I give you Lily Allen…. Smile!
.
Any unintended double entendres are…. intended.
ExpressoBold on June 16, 2011 at 3:27 PM
It had nothing to do with being too dirty. He doesn’t want anyone to discuss the pron star because he’s afraid of getting sued by Gloria Allred. He’s been having a once-a-week breakdown since this story began. It’ll pass.
joejm65 on June 16, 2011 at 3:28 PM
1st of a long list of good bye speeches I hope with all my being….
now GET OUT!
golfmann on June 16, 2011 at 3:29 PM
Wait…
What?…..,
Did I just hear him say “I’d like to thank my wife, Huma Rodham Weiner, for her support in these difficult times.“…
Or was that just my imagination?
LegendHasIt on June 16, 2011 at 3:29 PM
Today…we are all weiners.
BobMbx on June 16, 2011 at 3:30 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/crime-scene/post/suspicious-package-at-rep-weiners-office-declared-not-dangerous/2011/06/16/AGRV0aXH_blog.html
That’s something of an insult, isn’t it?
gekkobear on June 16, 2011 at 3:30 PM
That’s good…
right2bright on June 16, 2011 at 3:40 PM
Guess they didn’t see the naked weenie picture. (He’s not).
AZCoyote on June 16, 2011 at 3:41 PM
Well about three weeks later than I thought…but it happened.
The dems really turned up the heat on him…sadly it wasn’t the Republicans that forced him out, it was his own peeps.
right2bright on June 16, 2011 at 3:41 PM
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NOT
ExpressoBold on June 16, 2011 at 3:44 PM
Huma left Weiner hanging
So much for that political marriage
Huma wants a new Weiner
Roy Rogers on June 16, 2011 at 3:49 PM
Was his wife there?
reshas1 on June 16, 2011 at 3:52 PM
He stood before the crowd, holding himself erect, almost stiff. The murmur of the onlookers swelled; their collective heartbeats throbbed and pulsated as they waited to see what would come out of Weiner. Their anticipation grew, becoming turgid, almost tumescent.
They knew he was about to get the shaft. And he really had it coming.
The room became engorged with reporters, ready to swallow whatever Weiner spewed, eager to bend over backwards and take whatever he gave them – all in the name of servicing their party’s needs.
But in the end, Weiner failed to perform. Rather than standing firm and proud, he fell before the pressure – limp and spent.
Instead of thrusting onward, he simply looked at the camera with one open eye and ejaculated: “I resign!”
The crowd gasped and moaned, as the Congressman went flaccid before their eyes.
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Sorry. I just realized that the jig was up on the weiner jokes, and I wanted to whip them all out one last time. So to speak.
Carry on.
Professor Blather on June 16, 2011 at 4:01 PM
Whip it good!
Roy Rogers on June 16, 2011 at 4:16 PM
Yeah, he’s got a suspicious package, alright.
disa on June 16, 2011 at 4:19 PM
Considering Alldread, the Weenie, the rest of the democratics in Congress, and the porn-star, she’s the one I have the most respect for.
slickwillie2001 on June 16, 2011 at 5:13 PM
When, it wasn’t 45,000 people. And it wasn’t a pie. But we did see that Weiner is quite capable of carrying on with his message.
hawkdriver on June 16, 2011 at 5:49 PM
Could have been some of the advice Bill Clinton gave Weiner.
“Go into rehad, that’ll mean you’re protected by the Americans with Disabilities Act. Then you resign, that’ll give you some protection from Pelosi. Then you run for office again. Then you retire after one term and work for MSNBC and make some real money.”
hepcat on June 16, 2011 at 8:45 PM
I don’t understand how resigning before you are investigated and possibly expelled would preclude, or eliminate, an investigation and expulsion if you were re-elected.
If you did something unethical or illegal while serving in Congress and quit before they could do anything to you, shouldn’t they still be able to prosecute you if you were able to get re-elected?
Sporty1946 on June 16, 2011 at 10:34 PM
Not a very sophisticated arguement, I’m afraid.
Hint: Weiner is white!
Don L on June 17, 2011 at 6:28 AM
just wondering – if his plan was to lie his way out of his troubles from the very beginning why didn’t he simply say “NO” when asked if the crotch shot was his? Why did he try to give half truths? It was his BS answer to that question that set him up for a hard fall.
I know – asking to many whys when it comes to a liberal mind…but just wondering.
poppieseeds on June 17, 2011 at 7:49 PM
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