WSJ poll: Romney 30, Palin 14, Cain 12, Perry 8

posted at 8:25 pm on June 15, 2011 by Allahpundit

A bad poll for everyone involved, including Mitt. Granted, he’s gained nine points since the last time the Journal surveyed the race (Huckabee was still in play at the time), but only 45 percent of Republicans say they’re happy with the field as is. Four years ago at this time, that number was 73 percent. Just 24 percent say they’re confident in Romney’s ability to be president; in 2007, even John Edwards hit 31 percent. Clearly the base wants more options and the Palin/Cain/Perry constituencies aren’t natural defectors to Romney, so one of those three is bound to start consolidating the anti-Mitt faction as we get closer to the primaries. Bachmann, meanwhile, finishes with just three percent if Palin/Cain/Perry are in the race and at 11 percent if they aren’t. Disappointing, but since the polling ended on Monday, her star turn at the debate hasn’t been priced in yet. The big loser is Pawlenty at just six percent, two points behind Gingrich(!) and tied for seventh with … Rick Santorum. And if you pull Palin, Perry, and Cain out of the field, T-Paw finishes dead last. I know, I know — “it’s still early” — but read Mike Murphy’s post from yesterday. It’s not as early as you think, especially with Perry poised to jump in and become the “not Romney” in the race. Pawlenty needs to show donors that he’s worth investing in, but polling behind Ron Paul and Newt shows them the opposite.

It’s not all sunshine and candy canes for Perry either. Behold:

We like to goof on The One for blaming Bush for his problems, but the reason he does that is because it works. People remember who was president when the financial crisis struck, they remember having utterly lost confidence in that guy for various reasons during his second term, and they’re prepared to cut O a wide, wide berth on the economy because of it. That’s Perry’s misfortune, of course, because not only does he hold Bush’s old job, but superficially he sounds a bit like him when he talks and even has some biographical overlap (they were both military pilots). We’d all like to think his record of job creation in Texas will immunize him from Bush comparisons, but don’t underestimate the ability of the low-information voter to draw the wrong conclusion from a simple, endlessly repeated set of facts. More:

Those numbers will move as we get closer to the election — note how the number who say he inherited the economy plunged as the midterms approached — but after two and a half years of dreariness, they’re remarkably resilient in his favor.

But wait, it gets worse:

Turning to Republicans’ proposal to overhaul Medicare — transforming the government-run health program into a system where future seniors receive a subsidy or voucher to help them purchase private insurance — 31 percent say it’s a bad idea, which is up nine points since April.

Just 22 percent say it’s a good idea, which is virtually unchanged from last month. And 45 percent say they have no opinion.

That number’s not quite kosher insofar as the poll question describes Ryan’s plan as a voucher system even though it isn’t exactly. The sample favors Democrats by eight points too so the hard numbers here aren’t quite as bad as they look, but the trend is worrisome if nothing else. The Journal described Ryan’s plan as a voucher system last time too and opposition was nine points lower, which suggests the GOP really is losing the messaging war. Also this:

In other words, not only does O have a viable back-up campaign narrative with “blame Bush for the economy,” he may have a very viable lead narrative in Mediscaring. See what I mean about it being a bad poll? Exit question: How can Tim Pawlenty still be trailing a guy whose favorable rating dropped 18 points in two months?

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GOP voters will vote for the eventual nominee, or we get 4 more years of obaka.

The USA can’t survive that.

Get out the word….

ladyingray on June 15, 2011 at 8:27 PM

Interesting that you post Romney leading poll straight away but you haven’t posted any of the Palin leading polls. Such honesty.

promachus on June 15, 2011 at 8:28 PM

White bread: 22%

jake-the-goose on June 15, 2011 at 8:28 PM

OMG!!! We’re stuck with a RINO. Oh, wait…it is June 2011. The election is Nov 2012 (and yes I know there will be a GOP convention before then) Weiner might be rehabilitated by then…I just have to inject Weiner whenever i can.

Dingbat63 on June 15, 2011 at 8:31 PM

Eh – I would be more concerned if this was June of 2012. A year plus is an eternity in politics.

gophergirl on June 15, 2011 at 8:31 PM

Really, promachus? Really?

underground on June 15, 2011 at 8:32 PM

No way…will Romney the milquetoast, typical RHINO get my vote.

I’m sick of the standard, punch out, candidates. I want a revolution and one who can lead it.

Twana on June 15, 2011 at 8:32 PM

only 45 percent of Republicans say they’re happy with the field as is. Four years ago at this time, that number was 73 percent.

Good, sounds to me that Rs have learned their lesson. I mean 08 was not exactly a winning year you know

r keller on June 15, 2011 at 8:34 PM

Polling like that is likely why some key Republicans aren’t running in 2012.

lexhamfox on June 15, 2011 at 8:34 PM

HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-\\

nice try though.

stenwin77 on June 15, 2011 at 8:34 PM

Orange juice can – 52%

Schadenfreude on June 15, 2011 at 8:35 PM

Really, promachus? Really?

underground on June 15, 2011 at 8:32 PM

Yes, so far there have been two polls which show Palin leading. I asked him straightaway and he came back with “Am I going to post every poll out there?” Apparently yes, if it shows Mittens doing well. Such honest guy, this pundit.

promachus on June 15, 2011 at 8:35 PM

He….must…be…stopped.

Valiant on June 15, 2011 at 8:35 PM

Of course Obama inherited a poor economy. It’s a stupid, pointless question. The economy was bad in January 09.

How about asking useful questions like:

~ Has the economy improved since January 2009 under the policies of President Obama?

~ How much responsibility does the 111th Congress bear for the economic downturn which began in July 2008, and from which we still have not recovered?

~ How much responsibility does the current administration bear for the lack of economic recovery since January 2009?

~ Are you better off than you were 4 years ago?

Freelancer on June 15, 2011 at 8:36 PM

It’s absurd to think that we’re going to send to the White House and entrust the repeal of the most tyrannical statist takeover of the the US economy to someone who passed the same thing while he was governor.

The fact that Romney is even being considered is just unbelievable.

sartana on June 15, 2011 at 8:37 PM

\/\/hatever!

darwin-t on June 15, 2011 at 8:37 PM

I just have to inject Weiner whenever i can.
Dingbat63 on June 15, 2011 at 8:31 PM

My inner teenager wanted to respond to this but I kept him in check.

Bishop on June 15, 2011 at 8:38 PM

Twana on June 15, 2011 at 8:32 PM

So, you’re saying IF mittens is the nominee, you will stay home?

ladyingray on June 15, 2011 at 8:38 PM

losing the messaging war.

Been saying this since the beginning. It was obvious during the lameduck session that the current GOP leadership has no PR skills at all.

Apologetic California on June 15, 2011 at 8:39 PM

We like to goof on The One for blaming Bush for his problems, but the reason he does that is because it works.

Obama really did inherit a mess.
So the GOP candidate needs to campaign against liberalism, not merely against BHO.
He/she needs to explain how liberalism caused this mess.
And how Obama made it worse & last longer.

itsnotaboutme on June 15, 2011 at 8:39 PM

And the armies begin to form on the field of battle one more time at HotAir.

Bishop on June 15, 2011 at 8:39 PM

Of course Obama’s not solely responsible for the economy. Bush started the stone rolling, and Obama kicked it to give it some serious momentum.

The reason why people aren’t satisfied with the field is because they realize the problem with both Bush and Obama was their philosophies centered around making government bigger…and most of these candidates don’t seem to have a different philosophy.

MadisonConservative on June 15, 2011 at 8:39 PM

cripe, we are going to hear about W ad nauseum aren’t we, folks have got to get a clue that this is not W’s economy anymore and that the dems controlled congress the last 2 years of his term….the gop needs to get on the bullhorn and say DEAR LEADER MADE IT WORSE

cmsinaz on June 15, 2011 at 8:39 PM

Here’s another poll…..

Economist/YouGov Poll: Governor Palin Leads the Field

Palin 20%
Romney 14%
Rudy 11%
Perry 8%
Cain 7%
Bachmann 5%
Paul 5%
Gingrich 5%
Pawlenty 4%
Santorum 3%
Huntsman 2%

http://media.economist.com/images/pdf/Toplines20110615.pdf

idesign on June 15, 2011 at 8:40 PM

As much as the people think Obama inherited the recession, a whopping 82 percent of people think he’s responsible for it at some level.

Apologetic California on June 15, 2011 at 8:40 PM

PERRY / RUBIOor

PERRY / RYAN

SDarchitect on June 15, 2011 at 8:40 PM

sorry, pro, not a troll, just surprised that someone not gary or unseen jumped in that quick. :-)

underground on June 15, 2011 at 8:41 PM

Nice meme!

SouthernGent on June 15, 2011 at 8:42 PM

Are you better off than you were 4 years ago?

Freelancer on June 15, 2011 at 8:36 PM

Great post. That’s the key question and there should be no waffling unless you don’t eat, buy gas, save money, or pay bills.

sherry on June 15, 2011 at 8:42 PM

Allah does love his crosstabs. I wonder when he will post about this poll

Sarah Palin . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 20%
Mitt Romney . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .14%
Newt Gingrich . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .5%
Tim Pawlenty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4%
Michele Bachmann . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .5%
Jon Huntsman . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2%
Ron Paul . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .5%
Rudy Giuliani . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 11%
Herman Cain . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7%
Rick Santorum . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .3%
Rick Perry . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8%
Gary Johnson . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .0%
Fred Karger . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .0%
Buddy Roemer . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .1%
No preference . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15%

and, as a palate cleanser, this one from June 2007

Allah and his percentage points – still I suppose it keeps him off the streets and avoids any expenditure on shoe-leather….

callingallcomets on June 15, 2011 at 8:43 PM

Orange juice can – 52%

Schadenfreude on June 15, 2011 at 8:35 PM

Now-empty can that previously contained my dog’s dinner: 54%.

Naturally Curly on June 15, 2011 at 8:44 PM

I wonder when he will post about this poll

As soon as Palin runs.

Apologetic California on June 15, 2011 at 8:44 PM

We like to goof on The One for blaming Bush for his problems, but the reason he does that is because it works. People remember who was president when the financial crisis struck, they remember having utterly lost confidence in that guy for various reasons during his second term, and they’re prepared to cut O a wide, wide berth on the economy because of it. That’s Perry’s misfortune, of course, because not only does he hold Bush’s old job, but superficially he sounds a bit like him when he talks and even has some biographical overlap (they were both military pilots). We’d all like to think his record of job creation in Texas will immunize him from Bush comparisons, but don’t underestimate the ability of the low-information voter to draw the wrong conclusion from a simple, endlessly repeated set of facts.

I don’t think this as true as it was 6 months ago. Look at Obama’s numbers on the economy…and people also remember who was running Congress when the meltdown happened. I think people are just unhappy, in general, for a lot of reasons. And right now, no one is going to make them happy. If Ryan or Christie got in I doubt if it would change the numbers all that much.

Terrye on June 15, 2011 at 8:45 PM

Ouch – that has got to sting!

Bradky on June 15, 2011 at 8:45 PM

Damn it. He is the 2012 McCain. GOP always shoot themselves in the foot. I like Mitt, but he can not win. Sorry. He can’t.
Fudge, going to have Obama for four more years.

carbon_footprint on June 15, 2011 at 8:45 PM

our only chance of not getting Romney is if Palin runs.

huan on June 15, 2011 at 8:46 PM

jeesh let’s bash Allah now, it is his website, he can put up any poll he wants.

djohn669 on June 15, 2011 at 8:47 PM

Great message for GOP Replace Obama with Obama Lite!

promachus on June 15, 2011 at 8:47 PM

And time to freaking boycott Google if you haven’t already.
Been google free for a year now.

Google strikes deal with Obama for advertising campaign.

carbon_footprint on June 15, 2011 at 8:48 PM

callingallcomets on June 15, 2011 at 8:43 PM

Yea, I wonder why Allah tends to post her negatives?

I posted a link to this poll above.^

idesign on June 15, 2011 at 8:49 PM

jeesh let’s bash Allah now, it is his website, he can put up any poll he wants.

djohn669 on June 15, 2011 at 8:47 PM

Yep. How dare Allah post polls he had nothing to do with from some obscure left-wing publication like the Wall Street Journal.

MadisonConservative on June 15, 2011 at 8:50 PM

Of course Obama’s not solely responsible for the economy. Bush started the stone rolling, and Obama kicked it to give it some serious momentum.

The reason why people aren’t satisfied with the field is because they realize the problem with both Bush and Obama was their philosophies centered around making government bigger…and most of these candidates don’t seem to have a different philosophy.

MadisonConservative on June 15, 2011 at 8:39 PM

I don’t really buy this. If people really wanted someone who promotes smaller government Obama would not be getting numbers as good as he does…even though his numbers are not great. People say they want government smaller, but they punish anyone who actually tries to accomplish that. I think they want government to be more efficient. They just want things to work and for the economy to get better. They are not into great big earth shattering change.

And however much they might blame Bush or Obama..they always blame Congress more.

Terrye on June 15, 2011 at 8:50 PM

Palin’s not polling well because she is not in the race. Ditto with Perry.

carbon_footprint on June 15, 2011 at 8:50 PM

And the armies begin to form on the field of battle one more time at HotAir.

Bishop on June 15, 2011 at 8:39 PM

I swear I was gone for 5 minutes and the reinforcements are here already.

gophergirl on June 15, 2011 at 8:50 PM

carbon_footprint on June 15, 2011 at 8:48 PM

Got an Android device? You’re f**ked.

Apple is also run by Obamabots.

Better switch to Blackberry if you don’t want to support Obama-lovers.

It’s just not feasible.

MadisonConservative on June 15, 2011 at 8:51 PM

jeesh let’s bash Allah now, it is his website, he can put up any poll he wants.

djohn669 on June 15, 2011 at 8:47 PM

This is true. Don’t shoot the messenger people.

Terrye on June 15, 2011 at 8:51 PM

Its a north east demographic that blows with the wind.

tom0508 on June 15, 2011 at 8:52 PM

The new ad program would charge clients for every email address (or other piece of user data) they collect. The program is attractive to campaigns eager for that information, so when a staffer at the National Republican Senatorial Committee saw what appeared to be an Obama ad built on this technology on the RealClearPolitics website last month, she emailed a Google sales rep to ask about creating a similar ad campaign for Republicans.

Google and Obama

carbon_footprint on June 15, 2011 at 8:52 PM

Yea, I wonder why Allah tends to post her negatives?

I posted a link to this poll above.^

idesign on June 15, 2011 at 8:49 PM

And yet I didn’t post them here, did I, idesign? They *did* poll her negatives, though. Feel free to follow the link to their crosstabs and see what it is.

And before you say anything, I know, I know — her negatives aren’t important, she’ll turn it around once she’s on the trail, etc.

Allahpundit on June 15, 2011 at 8:52 PM

The saleswoman, Sirene Abou-Chakra, replied by suggesting that Obama had a special deal.

Goggle and Obama
Special deal???

carbon_footprint on June 15, 2011 at 8:53 PM

45% are satisfied with the field? It could only mean that a LOT of people are waiting for SP to get in the race. They sure couldn’t be pining for Huntsman or Perry.

Hmm. The Undefeated premiers in mid July.

Aardvark on June 15, 2011 at 8:53 PM

And before you say anything, I know, I know — her negatives aren’t important, she’ll turn it around once she’s on the trail, etc.

Allahpundit on June 15, 2011 at 8:52 PM

LMAO! It does get a bit tiring. I can only imagine putting up with idiocies like that EVERY. DAY.

Apologetic California on June 15, 2011 at 8:54 PM

Bleh.

I don’t care if a can of dog food runs against Obama. I’ll take the dog food.

/After all, by the 2012 election 44 million Americans will be eating it when they run out of Obama stash foodstants.

Key West Reader on June 15, 2011 at 8:54 PM

45% are satisfied with the field? It could only mean that a LOT of people are waiting for SP to get in the race. They sure couldn’t be pining for Huntsman or Perry.

Hmm. The Undefeated premiers in mid July.

Aardvark on June 15, 2011 at 8:53 PM

Palin was included in this poll and she only got 14%. If they were all waiting for her, I would think she would at least be even with Romney.

Terrye on June 15, 2011 at 8:55 PM

MadisonConservative on June 15, 2011 at 8:51 PM

Nope. No smart phone or pad; just my laptop. The hardest thing letting go of was YouTube, Picasa and Sketch Up. The rest, not so hard to do without. I love Bing and Yahoo. I am such a flickr addict that I would be in real trouble if I ever wanted to boycott Yahoo.

carbon_footprint on June 15, 2011 at 8:55 PM

It could only mean that a LOT of people are waiting for SP to get in the race. They sure couldn’t be pining for Huntsman or Perry.

It could. Although since they did mention her as a choice when polling the field, one would think her support would have shown up there.

Allahpundit on June 15, 2011 at 8:56 PM

Key West Reader on June 15, 2011 at 8:54 PM

ABO baby!

I have my choice but I’ll support whomever wins the nomination.

For goodness sakes – I owned and wore 2 McCain shirts in 08. I think that says it all :)

gophergirl on June 15, 2011 at 8:56 PM

To those of you constantly accusing AP of bias: It’s Ed/AP’s castle-it’s Ed/AP’s rules
If you don’t like how things are done on this blog, go start your own ,so you can post whatever YOU want.

annoyinglittletwerp on June 15, 2011 at 8:56 PM

Cain at 12%? LOL LOL LOL

After his debate performance, he should be polling at -5!

idesign on June 15, 2011 at 8:56 PM

And time to freaking boycott Google if you haven’t already.
Been google free for a year now.

Google strikes deal with Obama for advertising campaign.

carbon_footprint on June 15, 2011 at 8:48 PM

Been trying to Google wean myself. The alternatives though I can’t stand mainly the browser. I’m also tied down to my Gmail and Google Docs, but I adopted them way before I was aware of their libtardation.

Apologetic California on June 15, 2011 at 8:57 PM

Nope. No smart phone or pad; just my laptop. The hardest thing letting go of was YouTube, Picasa and Sketch Up. The rest, not so hard to do without. I love Bing and Yahoo. I am such a flickr addict that I would be in real trouble if I ever wanted to boycott Yahoo.

carbon_footprint on June 15, 2011 at 8:55 PM

Use Chrome or Firefox? Supporting Google. I assume no GMail accounts.

It can be done, but it’s horrifically difficult.

MadisonConservative on June 15, 2011 at 8:57 PM

Palin’s not polling well because she is not in the race. Ditto with Perry.

carbon_footprint on June 15, 2011 at 8:50 PM

I think that might be true with Perry, but Palin has been on the scene for a long time and she is almost always included in these polls and most of her strongest supporters seem to think she is running. I think Bachmann is pulling some support from her, but mostly it is her negatives that are hurting her. People want to beat Obama..that is the truth. They probably don’t think she can do that.

Terrye on June 15, 2011 at 8:58 PM

Use Chrome or Firefox? Supporting Google. I assume no GMail accounts.

It can be done, but it’s horrifically difficult.

MadisonConservative on June 15, 2011 at 8:57 PM

Use FireFox, they are not owned by Google are they??? Crap, if so, I am in trouble because I love FireFox.

I deleted my GMail account a year ago.

carbon_footprint on June 15, 2011 at 8:58 PM

Fudge, going to have Obama for four more years.

carbon_footprint on June 15, 2011 at 8:45 PM

Ya know, we talk so much about who the GOP wants, we forget about the blue dog dems (the real ones, not the faux ones), etc. that exist out there. A good friend of mine was a big Clinton supporter, both of them. He didn’t vote for Obama and will vote ABO. They never poll those types. I have to believe that there are lots of non GOP voters who are also ABO, which could put the yet to be determined ABO over the top.

TxAnn56 on June 15, 2011 at 8:59 PM

Cain at 12%? LOL LOL LOL

After his debate performance, he should be polling at -5!

idesign on June 15, 2011 at 8:56 PM

Shouldn’t Palin be somewhere north of 30% after her bus tour?

sherry on June 15, 2011 at 8:59 PM

You couldn’t resist putting Mittenz favorable poll result up in all our faces, didn’t you AllahP.

You just love the wailing and gnashing of teeth, don’t you…

ADMIT IT! :)

RocketmanBob on June 15, 2011 at 8:59 PM

And in the name of intellectual honesty it’s the NBC/wsj poll.

heshtesh on June 15, 2011 at 9:00 PM

MadCon: From Wiki….

As of November 2010, Firefox’s default search provider is Google, and its default homepage, “Firefox Start”, uses and is hosted on Google.[181]

They don’t own them, they cross advertise with them. I can live with that. For now.

carbon_footprint on June 15, 2011 at 9:01 PM

Ya know, we talk so much about who the GOP wants, we forget about the blue dog dems (the real ones, not the faux ones), etc. that exist out there. A good friend of mine was a big Clinton supporter, both of them. He didn’t vote for Obama and will vote ABO. They never poll those types. I have to believe that there are lots of non GOP voters who are also ABO, which could put the yet to be determined ABO over the top.

TxAnn56 on June 15, 2011 at 8:59 PM

I think this is true. Here in Indiana, I know a lot of Democrats who will not vote for Obama. I am sure it is true in the south and in states like West Virginia. I think it might be true in Ohio too.

Terrye on June 15, 2011 at 9:02 PM

I propose that before any polling numbers are posted by Allah, that he seek the permission of a certain group of Palin supporters.

csdeven on June 15, 2011 at 9:02 PM

Terrye on June 15, 2011 at 8:58 PM

I think Ace described the whole Palin thing the best:

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/317534.php

Palin skeptics like me have long maintained the order of things should be thus:

Step 1. Palin demonstrates an ability to change opinions about her, and gain general credibility as a commander in chief.

Step 2. If an only if Step 1 is successfully fulfilled, we proceed to nominate her for our candidate for President of the United States of America.

Palin’s strongest fans have a different conception of the order of things:

Step 1. We nominate Palin as our candidate for President of the Untied States of America.

Step 2. Now that we’ve given Palin our own “credibility,” we see if she can leverage that into changing perceptions about her and gaining her own credibility to administer the highest office in the world.

Bradky on June 15, 2011 at 9:03 PM

Yes, so far there have been two polls which show Palin leading. I asked him straightaway and he came back with “Am I going to post every poll out there?” Apparently yes, if it shows Mittens doing well. Such honest guy, this pundit.

promachus on June 15, 2011 at 8:35 PM

If you held an “Honesty Contest” between AP and Chris Matthews, it would probably be a draw.

bw222 on June 15, 2011 at 9:03 PM

And before you say anything, I know, I know — her negatives aren’t important, she’ll turn it around once she’s on the trail, etc.

Allahpundit on June 15, 2011 at 8:52 PM

So she’s leading Romney in a center/left poll every bit as scientific as an NBC News/WSJ poll by 6 points, and everyone else by 9 points, yet her negatives are high so she’s dismissed. Okay.

I hope you get out of Manhattan once in a while. If you don’t at least I have a better understanding of your logic.

CTSherman on June 15, 2011 at 9:03 PM

TxAnn56 on June 15, 2011 at 8:59 PM

Yeah, good point. You would think starting four wars would hurt Obama with most dems. Where are CodeStink?? War crimin-al War crimin-al

carbon_footprint on June 15, 2011 at 9:03 PM

The Washington Times (6/14/11)~

“Undefeated” is powerful and persuasive for anyone open-minded enough to watch it. The film contains so much of the left’s caustic and vulgar hatred of Mrs. Palin that the uncut version is rated “XXX.”

Who knows whether the movie is as successful as it deserves to be. But if people do watch it, they will have a hard time walking out without a renewed respect and admiration for Mrs. Palin and the horrifying treatment she has endured.

And if Mrs. Palin emerges unscathed from all the the hate, prejudice and distortion that she has suffered though, there will be no stopping her.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jun/14/hurt-watch-out-for-mama-grizzly-palins-bite/?page=1

SheetAnchor on June 15, 2011 at 9:04 PM

Does anyone really expect the jobs numbers to improve in one year? The housing market? The economy? Gasoline going to be under $2/gal? Ever? How about that lovely Obamacare boondoggle, is that going to be the lovely entitlement to end all entitlements, bust all budgets and make unicorns appear in every house? Are any of these actually going to turn in Obama’s direction in one year?

Why?

If not then Obama is a goner… and people will make up their mind on an incumbent at just about this point next year.

And if the R’s pick Romney, I’m voting for Cthulhu… if we gotta go through hell, at least we can get someone who knows the territory.

ajacksonian on June 15, 2011 at 9:04 PM

I think this is true. Here in Indiana, I know a lot of Democrats who will not vote for Obama. I am sure it is true in the south and in states like West Virginia. I think it might be true in Ohio too.

Terrye on June 15, 2011 at 9:02 PM

I am confident those people will more than make up for the people who stay home because their candidate didn’t make the cut.

csdeven on June 15, 2011 at 9:04 PM

to inject Weiner whenever i can.

Dingbat63 on June 15, 2011 at 8:31 PM

That’s what she said!

massrighty on June 15, 2011 at 9:04 PM

And I like Mitt he’s the quintessential CEO, he would get the economy going on his first day one thousand percent better than the President has and he has little stubbornness in his handling of crisis and the solution. He would listen the the public in his decisions.

I do believe however he has the wrong baggage for this election and his beliefs across the board are going to be tough. Tough.

More contrast, real unapologetic bold bright colors Conservatism.

Speakup on June 15, 2011 at 9:05 PM

carbon_footprint on June 15, 2011 at 8:58 PM

Built-in search on your upper right. Can’t escape it. Fittingly, I’ve noticed the symbol for Chrome is as close to Hal 9000 since the Droid X.

MadisonConservative on June 15, 2011 at 9:05 PM

SheetAnchor on June 15, 2011 at 9:04 PM

But… wasn’t she defeated on that McCain-Palin ticket a few years back?

Bradky on June 15, 2011 at 9:05 PM

If RINO’s want to win, they better start changing their spots now.

Besides, who say’s Obama will survive Holder’s Guns for Drugs scandal?

Between that and his illegal war in Libya, he’s losing Democrat support rapidly.

Roy Rogers on June 15, 2011 at 9:05 PM

This poll has the political elite ruling class RINO stink all over it…

… After the Sarah Palin e-mail fiasco, why would anyone pay attention, link, quote, or wipe their a%s with anything the media has to say?

Oh, I almost forgot…

… They have to tell us who to vote for. Check!

Seven Percent Solution on June 15, 2011 at 9:06 PM

This is an interesting poll for comparison:

Economist/YouGov Poll:

Palin 20%
Romney 14%
Rudy 11%
Perry 8%
Cain 7%
Bachmann 5%
Paul 5%
Gingrich 5%
Pawlenty 4%
Santorum 3%
Huntsman 2%

http://media.economist.com/images/pdf/Toplines20110615.pdf

SheetAnchor on June 15, 2011 at 9:06 PM

Built-in search on your upper right. Can’t escape it. Fittingly, I’ve noticed the symbol for Chrome is as close to Hal 9000 since the Droid X.

MadisonConservative on June 15, 2011 at 9:05 PM

Nope, you can change that pull down search on the upper right. I removed Google from there and have only Yahoo, Amazon and Bing there.

carbon_footprint on June 15, 2011 at 9:06 PM

If you held an “Honesty Contest” between AP and Chris Matthews, it would probably be a draw.

bw222 on June 15, 2011 at 9:03 PM

Then leave. Go to C4P and get your rocks off. Stop whining about someone else’s website not pandering to you.

MadisonConservative on June 15, 2011 at 9:06 PM

Oh, PLEEEEEEZE, RINO/Establishment/MSM, pick our nominee for us! We’re too stoooopid to know what’s best for us.

Why do we bother even having a primary??

CurtZHP on June 15, 2011 at 9:07 PM

AP, pretty good article but I must say the promotion of the media meme that Perry is similar in any way to Bush really irks me. And you cite these as the reasons:

…That’s Perry’s misfortune, of course, because not only does he hold Bush’s old job, but superficially he sounds a bit like him when he talks and even has some biographical overlap (they were both military pilots)…

So let’s see:
1. He holds Bush’s old job
2. He sounds like him
3. They were both military pilots

Come on! So does this mean no Southerner from Texas who has ever been a military pilot can run for President? Even when they have the experience to back their ambition?

The ease with which right-leaning pundits always swallow the MSM and leftist memes… it irks me to no end.

You’ve heard it here first… if Obama should win re-election, the MSM will promote Rahm Emmanuel for President and the fact that he and Obama are from Chicago will never be cited as an issue no matter how Obama messes up!

TheRightMan on June 15, 2011 at 9:07 PM

If you held an “Honesty Contest” between AP and Chris Matthews, it would probably be a draw.

bw222 on June 15, 2011 at 9:03 PM

Then leave. Go to C4P and get your rocks off. Stop whining about someone else’s website not pandering to you.

MadisonConservative on June 15, 2011 at 9:06 PM

Exactly. No one is being forced to comment @ HA!

annoyinglittletwerp on June 15, 2011 at 9:08 PM

And the armies begin to form on the field of battle one more time at HotAir.

Bishop on June 15, 2011 at 8:39 PM

For hours they stood, their muscles tensely wound. Then, as a knight shifted uncomfortably from one foot to another, an startled adder struck at his armored leg. Out of instinct, the man drew his sword to kill the serpent. The other army saw this as a sign of trechery and drew their own weapons. Before anyone could put a stop to it, both armies were engaged in battle.

And the Battle at Camlan was begun.

massrighty on June 15, 2011 at 9:08 PM

SheetAnchor on June 15, 2011 at 9:06 PM

You will hang onto that one poll like the Democrats held onto the one of eleven recounts after Bush was sworn in that showed Gore winning Florida. never mind the other ten polls it was only that poll that mattered…

Bradky on June 15, 2011 at 9:08 PM

Terrye on June 15, 2011 at 8:58 PM

I think Ace described the whole Palin thing the best:

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/317534.php

Palin skeptics like me have long maintained the order of things should be thus:

Step 1. Palin demonstrates an ability to change opinions about her, and gain general credibility as a commander in chief.

Step 2. If an only if Step 1 is successfully fulfilled, we proceed to nominate her for our candidate for President of the United States of America.

Palin’s strongest fans have a different conception of the order of things:

Step 1. We nominate Palin as our candidate for President of the Untied States of America.

Step 2. Now that we’ve given Palin our own “credibility,” we see if she can leverage that into changing perceptions about her and gaining her own credibility to administer the highest office in the world.

Bradky on June 15, 2011 at 9:03 PM

I would say you were right.

Terrye on June 15, 2011 at 9:09 PM

Nope, you can change that pull down search on the upper right. I removed Google from there and have only Yahoo, Amazon and Bing there.

carbon_footprint on June 15, 2011 at 9:06 PM

It’s still built-in and promoting, as is Firefox’s start page. Just letting you know. Unfortunately, being in the tech industry, that kind of dodging and weaving is for naught. Gotta submit to those little communist punks.

MadisonConservative on June 15, 2011 at 9:09 PM

idesign on June 15, 2011 at 8:40 PM

callingallcomets on June 15, 2011 at 8:43 PM

You mean the poll that shows Palin losing to Barry 36% to 50%?

bayview on June 15, 2011 at 9:09 PM

massrighty on June 15, 2011 at 9:08 PM

looks like you and Bishop have been playing D&D a little too frequently…

Bradky on June 15, 2011 at 9:10 PM

Bradky on June 15, 2011 at 9:08 PM
oh pls quit whining, she been second in all the others and closer

djohn669 on June 15, 2011 at 9:10 PM

But… wasn’t she defeated on that McCain-Palin ticket a few years back?

Bradky on June 15, 2011 at 9:05 PM

You haven’t heard what stage we are in of the reverse-reverse-reverse psychology tactic for Palin?

She is the new Rocky. The more she quits, the better she is!

csdeven on June 15, 2011 at 9:11 PM

When our Attorney General (Texas, Greg Abbott) embarked upon investigations into Google’s business practices, vis-a-vis, their listings; it was the last straw for me.

However, I am a hypocrite because I just changed my car insurance from GEICO (14 years) to Progressive which is, well progressive. However, I cut my insurance from $450 per six months to $250. Here is the best part: they have a service called Snapshot where you they ship you an small device that you plug into your panel. It records your driving speed, driving times, driving mileage and the time of the day your drive. It lasts for four weeks. I just completed it and I will save an additional 30% for my driving practices. So paying $190 for six months of auto insurance is making me pretty happy.

carbon_footprint on June 15, 2011 at 9:11 PM

Rather interesting you chose to omit the NBC in the poll.
You guys select the polls you like to headline. If Romney is the nominee, expect a campaign as exciting as Dole/Kemp. A guaranteed loser.

lonestar1 on June 15, 2011 at 9:12 PM

Well, I guess we better go with Romney.

If Palin can’t defeat Obama and yet she is still kicking these other scrub’s asses then what chance do they have against Obama?

chief on June 15, 2011 at 9:12 PM

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