Endgame: Pakistan arrests five people for … helping the U.S. kill Bin Laden

posted at 6:25 pm on June 15, 2011 by Allahpundit

Before every divorce, after years of trying to make it work, there comes a moment when the couple realizes that things are irretrievably broken. I thought that moment had come when we found the world’s most famous terrorist living a mile up the road from Pakistan’s national military academy, but some romances don’t fade so easily, I guess.

After this, though, I must sadly conclude that this marriage can’t be saved.

Pakistan’s detention of five C.I.A. informants, including a Pakistani Army major who officials said copied the license plates of cars visiting Bin Laden’s compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, in the weeks before the raid, is the latest evidence of the fractured relationship between the United States and Pakistan. It comes at a time when the Obama administration is seeking Pakistan’s support in brokering an endgame in the war in neighboring Afghanistan…

Over the past several weeks the Pakistani military has been distancing itself from American intelligence and counterterrorism operations against militant groups in Pakistan. This has angered many in Washington who believe that Bin Laden’s death has shaken Al Qaeda and that there is now an opportunity to further weaken the terrorist organization with more raids and armed drone strikes.

But in recent months, dating approximately to when a C.I.A. contractor killed two Pakistanis on a street in the eastern city of Lahore in January, American officials said that Pakistani spies from the Directorate for Inter-Services Intelligence, known as the ISI, have been generally unwilling to carry out surveillance operations for the C.I.A.. The Pakistanis have also resisted granting visas allowing American intelligence officers to operate in Pakistan, and have threatened to put greater restrictions on the drone flights.

A deputy CIA director told a Senate committee last week that, on a scale of one to 10, Pakistani counterterror cooperation is down to a three. What would it take to get down to one, I wonder? Finding Zawahiri living in an apartment above ISI headquarters? Yesterday, in fact, House Intel Committee Chair Mike Rogers became the first prominent U.S. pol to publicly accuse “elements” in Pakistan’s military and intel service of sheltering Bin Laden — and not just because of where Osama was found. Because of stuff like this too:

Twice in recent weeks, the United States provided Pakistan with the specific locations of insurgent bomb-making factories, only to see the militants learn their cover had been blown and vacate the sites before military action could be taken, according to U.S. and Pakistani officials.

Overhead surveillance video and other information was given to Pakistani officials in mid-May, officials said, as part of a trust-building effort by the Obama administration after the killing of Osama bin Laden in a U.S. raid early last month. But Pakistani military units that arrived at the sites in the tribal areas of North and South Waziristan on June 4 found them abandoned…

A senior Pakistani military official said Friday that the United States had also shared information about other sites, including weapons-storage facilities, that were similarly found empty. “There is a suspicion that perhaps there was a tip-off,” the official said.

Panetta flew to Pakistan and showed the surveillance video personally to Kayani and Pasha, the respective heads of the country’s military and intelligence. Isn’t it amazing how Pakistani tip-offs like that to jihadis have been happening for years and years, with little luck in smoking out the treacherous intel officers responsible, yet in the span of a month they somehow managed to find five guys who helped us kill the leaders of Al Qaeda? Their spy skills sure are impressive when they want them to be. Even more amazing: According to a Pakistani analyst, the reason Pakistan arrested the CIA informants is because they’re “annoyed” and embarrassed that we didn’t tip them off to the Bin Laden raid in advance. If only we’d been cooperative and given them some notice so that they could give Osama a heads-up, maybe they wouldn’t be in such a grumpy mood now. Perfect.

Two lingering questions as we move forward into the “separated, hurt, but not yet divorced” phase of our monstrously dysfunctional relationship. One: How does this Times story from a few weeks ago square with Rogers’s accusation? Intel from Bin Laden’s computer suggests that he considered reaching out to Pakistan’s government for protection, but there’s no evidence (or none we know about) that he actually did so. That’s hugely damning, obviously, insofar as OBL himself apparently thought they might be willing to deal, but if he was already being sheltered by Pakistani agents then documents like that shouldn’t exist. Two: What does our deteriorating situation with Pakistan mean for GOP support for the Afghan war? Romney’s already in hot water, inexplicably, for tepidly suggesting that the troops should come home as soon as possible, but tea-party stars like Mike Lee and Rand Paul and RINO heroes like Jon Huntsman are quietly making withdrawal a more respectable position on the right. In theory, since Pakistan will inherit control of Afghanistan once we’re gone, the more dubiously they behave, the more compelling the logic is of keeping U.S. troops in place. I don’t think it’ll work out that way in practice, though. The more dubiously Pakistan behaves and the more corrupt Karzai’s regime is, the more I think American voters will feel inclined to throw up their hands, curse the whole region as hopeless, and support pulling out. Which, in fact, may be one small reason among many that Pakistan is behaving as dubiously as it is.

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sorry this sounds horrid, but turn paki into parking lot and lets go home.

djohn669 on June 15, 2011 at 6:27 PM

djohn669 on June 15, 2011 at 6:27 PM

Yeah I’m starting to wonder if maybe the intial 9/11 reaction of “Lake Afghanistan” had more wisdom than I first thought.

apollyonbob on June 15, 2011 at 6:30 PM

Their spy skills sure are impressive when they want them to be.

They sure are!

ted c on June 15, 2011 at 6:30 PM


… the United States provided Pakistan with the specific locations of insurgent bomb-making factories, only to see the militants learn their cover had been blown and vacate the sites before military action could be taken …

I hope this was some kind of “Midway is out of drinking water” operation on our part.

Next time, tell them AFTER you blow up the bomb factory!

Tony737 on June 15, 2011 at 6:31 PM

A senior Pakistani military official said Friday that the United States had also shared information about other sites, including weapons-storage facilities, that were similarly found empty. “There is a suspicion that perhaps there was a tip-off,” the official said.

Just a suspicion….good grief, just a suspicion, not a coincidence?

right2bright on June 15, 2011 at 6:35 PM

Time to kick their @ss…

right2bright on June 15, 2011 at 6:35 PM

Obama, surrounded by retired senior military officers and living 100 yards from the Pakistani equivalent of West Point did not tip them off that something was rotten in Abbottncostellobad?

Roy Rogers on June 15, 2011 at 6:37 PM

I am sure if Obama visits they will arrest him.

Right?

CW on June 15, 2011 at 6:37 PM

5 sacrificial dupes used to try and supplicate forgiveness from a terrorist-friendly populace.

Bishop on June 15, 2011 at 6:38 PM

China is just waiting in the wings (already making huge gestures and inroads) to befriend the Pakistanis for access to minerals in Afghanistan, a water port down south and more importantly an ally against India…

albill on June 15, 2011 at 6:41 PM

The ISI was watching the house… BUT they had no idea that it was Bin Laden living there… Uhmmm, Sure.

Kuffar on June 15, 2011 at 6:41 PM

The more dubiously Pakistan behaves and the more corrupt Karzai’s regime is, the more I think American voters will feel inclined to throw up their hands, curse the whole region as hopeless, and support pulling out.

i’m just about there…

cmsinaz on June 15, 2011 at 6:42 PM

CW on June 15, 2011 at 6:37 PM

Obama is already bowing their direction

Roy Rogers on June 15, 2011 at 6:42 PM

The more dubiously Pakistan behaves and the more corrupt Karzai’s regime is, the more I think American voters will feel inclined to throw up their hands, curse the whole region as hopeless, and support pulling out.

it can only continue for so long. We can come to a point of diminishing returns and may already be there. What more can we do beyond funding these guys, killing the bad guys, and learning that the guys we fund are as corrupt and anti American as the guys we’ve killed. At some point, we have to decide what the end game is.

ted c on June 15, 2011 at 6:43 PM

I would say that it is time to:

1. Restart the draft.
2. Quadruple the size of the military.
3. Occupy Syria, Somalia, Yemen, and Libya.
4. Give Pakistan a very stern look as in “you’re next” while kicking the crap out of Iran.

crosspatch on June 15, 2011 at 6:47 PM

cut the funding.

yesterday.

clement on June 15, 2011 at 6:48 PM

holder and team are seeing to it that the cia are going to court for the iraq thing again. bho, holder and the whole cr@ppy team are sending our best under the bus. When will ‘someone’ leak the names of those SEALS who killed obl so they and families and those who did this will be dead?

http://nation.foxnews.com/eric-holder/2011/06/14/holder-oks-probe-cia-war-crimes
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letget on June 15, 2011 at 6:51 PM

How do the ISI know who the informants are? I’m sure our professional CIA/State Department employee had something to do with it.

I swear the CIA takes a step forward and 10 back. They need to get rid of that rogue organization and move their functions to the military, where it started.

ramrants on June 15, 2011 at 6:51 PM

Bigger question: How did the informants identities get compromised?

Kini on June 15, 2011 at 6:52 PM

Bigger question: How did the informants identities get compromised?

Kini on June 15, 2011 at 6:52 PM

“At the Gridiron Dinner, Joe Biden started talking and accidentally revealed Dick Cheney’s secret hiding place. See, there’s more proof you don’t need waterboarding to get secret information. Just give Joe Biden a couple of drinks….This is part of our new plan. It’s called ‘Don’t Ask, We’ll Tell.’” –Jay Leno

Roy Rogers on June 15, 2011 at 6:54 PM

crosspatch on June 15, 2011 at 6:47 PM

What about the nukes and China?

Kini on June 15, 2011 at 6:55 PM

“Endgame: Pakistan arrests five people for … helping the U.S. kill Bin Laden”

Eric Holder to prosecute…

Seven Percent Solution on June 15, 2011 at 6:55 PM

crosspatch on June 15, 2011 at 6:47 PM

Wasn’t there an agreement across both parties late in the administration of President George W. Bush that we needed to add at least 2/3 of a division to the US Army?

slickwillie2001 on June 15, 2011 at 6:56 PM

Roy Rogers on June 15, 2011 at 6:54 PM

+ 50

Kini on June 15, 2011 at 6:56 PM

We want to retain our own sovereign status, but won’t let Pakistan retain its sovereign status.

Obama killed a man who’s been dead for years. Obama killed a skeleton in the closet. And Obama committed an overt act of war against Pakistan in order to assassinate a ghost and in the process kill civilians.

Were American Intelligence or Military officers to provide information to a UN member nation with whom we have a barely tenable relationship, and that information led to another nation attacking the interior of the USA without warning, to the assassination of a political figure, and in the process US civilians were killed, would we not demand official punitive action be taken against the intelligence/military officers who sold information, committing an act of treason against America?

Clinton and Obama have done EVERYTHING they could to obliterate US “on the ground” intelligence officers in troubled regions around the world. That problem is where Americans should first focus our attention, to solve our own lack of intelligence before demanding another war to fix our lack of intelligence, demanding another war because other nations won’t do our work, or won’t let us do everything we want in their country.

Our US Government has YET to secure our own borders. And our open border policy is horribly dangerous, many Americans suffering.

Clinton, GWBush (Rumsfeld and Gates), and Obama have already trimmed back our Military resources to only be capable of two simultaneous war fronts. Our Military is already over extended, in that enlisted (volunteer) men and women are perpetually re-deployed without choice. Many troops who’ve been deployed multiple times are suffering immense depression, and the suicide rate has already spiked to unprecedented levels.

Were any of the current American wars “winnable” we’d know and have purpose. But the wars themselves are illogical: war on terror, as if we can beat “terror” through warfare, by ourselves inflicting terror on nations whose many different people have their own rights to exist, though no “right” to be terrorists. NO ONE has the right to be a terrorist, particularly if one is claiming “moral authority”.

Americans demanding so many never ending wars need to be the ones volunteering themselves, not volunteering the redeployment of OTHERS, redeploying servicemen and women who’ve already re-deployed and really want to return home for family life or for whatever personal reasons not wanting to re-re-redeploy.

Americans demanding so many wars must realize that such will be the excuse used for the CinC to demand the return of the Draft.

maverick muse on June 15, 2011 at 6:58 PM

Please, for once and for all, accept that Pakistan is not an ally. They may be a reluctant assistant once in a while, but not an ally.

It is time for us to reconsider alliances with countries like India that actually have the same goals and aspirations as we do. Pakistan is a lost cause until they realize they are their own worst enemy.

neoavatara on June 15, 2011 at 7:00 PM

Pakistan’s detention of five C.I.A. informants

but…but….lil’ barry says Pock-EE-stonn….why don’t they love us??

Tim_CA on June 15, 2011 at 7:02 PM

Tony737 on June 15, 2011 at 6:31 PM

Bonus points for the Midway reference!

acasilaco on June 15, 2011 at 7:04 PM

maverick muse on June 15, 2011 at 6:58 PM

Americans demanding so many wars must realize that such will be the excuse used for the CinC to demand the return of the Draft.

This worthless thing in the wh now can demand the draft, but what do you think America’s will do? How many will scoot to candada to not do this? How many will go to the streets cratering things? How many will hook up the rop type here just waiting to crater us? Things are way way different than VN. I don’t think most at age will or would go! From my way of thinking bho is praying for this for the major ‘crisis’ before 2012!
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letget on June 15, 2011 at 7:07 PM

It is not possible for a predominantly Muslim country to be a true ally of the United States.

cynccook on June 15, 2011 at 7:11 PM

IF Pakistan had truly helped us find Osama in 2001, how many soldiers, sailors, airmen, Marines, special ops, etc… would still be alive today?

Stuxnet 3.0 should reprogram the guidance system on Iran’s nukes.

Roy Rogers on June 15, 2011 at 7:17 PM

Next time, tell them AFTER you blow up the bomb factory!

Tony737 on June 15, 2011 at 6:31 PM

Don’t tell them then. Gee, the terrorists must have take a page out of the Weathermen Underground playbook and blown up their own factory.

rbj on June 15, 2011 at 7:29 PM

Time for joint military exercises with India, followed by a very large shipment of military hardware and munitions to our friends in Mumbai. And Israel.

Philly on June 15, 2011 at 8:06 PM

Who knows, maybe we’re tipping them off to try to see who it is that tips off our “targets.” Maybe the actual targets are the ISI Islamists whom the Pakistanis are unwilling and/or unable to eliminate themselves.

Christien on June 15, 2011 at 8:28 PM

Time for joint military exercises with India, followed by a very large shipment of military hardware and munitions to our friends in Mumbai. And Israel.

Philly on June 15, 2011 at 8:06 PM

Your proposal assumes we would act so that:
1. Our adversaries know we oppose them.
2. Our allies know we have their back.

Somewhere in Texas can be heard the cry:

Miss me yet?

(Yes Mr. President, I do!)

massrighty on June 15, 2011 at 9:01 PM

Meeting with RAW would say more than Indo-US military exercises, but whatever.

Christien on June 15, 2011 at 9:04 PM

I think you find that they have arrested dozens rather than just 5.

lexhamfox on June 15, 2011 at 9:38 PM

I said all along that Obama was running his mouth way too much. I hope he did not give out enough information for someone to figure which SEALS were on that mission. There is a time to toot your horn and there is a time to stop, Obama has not learned that yet.

old war horse on June 16, 2011 at 3:43 AM

Time to start throttling back on the foreign aid…

Khun Joe on June 16, 2011 at 6:33 PM