Where is the green jobs explosion?
posted at 10:12 am on June 13, 2011 by Ed Morrissey
When Barack Obama spoke of “necessarily bankrupting” coal-fueled electricity producers, he claimed that the explosion in “green jobs” would replace the workers dislocated by penalizing fossil fuels. So far, though, there is little evidence of any explosion in green jobs, or even significant job creation at all. As Politico reports, the Obama administration is having to fall back on “saved and created” language to describe its big investment in the green-collar field:
President Barack Obama heads to an energy plant in North Carolina on Monday to talk once again about the job-creating power of a green economy.
The catch? Nearly three years into Obama’s presidency, the White House can’t point to much solid evidence that significant numbers of Americans are scoring the green jobs the president has been touting.
Monthly Labor Department employment reports say nothing about the new clean energy workforce, while an effort to document how many Americans actually make a living in the “green collar” field may not be done by November 2012.
Obama’s Council of Economic Advisers suggests 225,000 clean energy jobs were either created or preserved through the third quarter of 2010 thanks to more than $80 billion in the economic stimulus package. But those are estimates at best.
At $80 billion, that would mean a cost of $355,555.56 of public subsidy per job created … or “saved.” At best, as Politico states. The administration responds by claiming that these subsidies will have 825,000 people working in green jobs by the end of 2012, work that includes building car batteries — an effort that can only be called green by using the most flexible kind of definition possible, considering the environmentally problematic processes of manufacturing and disposal on which batteries rely.
Even at that, though, the subsidies just from the stimulus (ignoring other federal funding, which is ongoing) would equal to almost $100,000 per job. And the administration claims that a significant number of these jobs would be for “retrofitting homes” for energy efficiency, which would be temporary in nature. That claim also ignores the fact that we have had those stimulus tax breaks and subsidies in place since early 2009. Has construction added jobs, or has it shed jobs, since that time?
The Bureau of Labor Statistics is rushing to create a “green jobs” analysis as part of its monthly reporting on the workforce. That should be an interesting project, especially when it comes to definitions of “green.” The BLS estimates that those statistics should be ready by the end of next year, not exactly in time to help Obama make his case for re-election on the basis of a green economy. But that ambiguity might be best anyway, and Obama will certainly make the most of it. And “most” in this context isn’t going to be tough to achieve, relatively speaking:
That report doesn’t appear to have a deadline. But Obama is unlikely to stop talking about his commitment to the issue in the meantime.
“I wouldn’t be surprised if they use the green jobs story in the same way they’re using the auto story, as a place where they can tell somewhat of a good story, even if they don’t have the fact base to make it really compelling,” said McDonald.
“Here’s the thing,” he added. “There’s not that many places where they can tell a good story about the economy, so the bar is very low for green jobs to be a centerpiece of his agenda.”
It’s not the green part of the agenda that will be Obama’s problem in 2009. It’s the low bar.









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There are plenty of green jobs being created, specifically the guys running the printing presses down at the U.S. mint; they have added staff like crazy to keep up with the demand for increasingly worthless greenbacks.
Bishop on June 13, 2011 at 10:16 AM
The explosion is our economy…and not in a positive way. But that’s by design, of course.
search4truth on June 13, 2011 at 10:19 AM
There is no such thing as a green job. It is a euphemism
like gay. It has no meaning in their context. Their intention is to distort.
lilium on June 13, 2011 at 10:20 AM
This is all Glenn Becks fault for forcing Van Jones to retire because of his smears! /
Jon Fezzik on June 13, 2011 at 10:20 AM
The term “Green Job” makes the average Lib voter feel good about themselves.
Therefore as long as Obama keeps saying that he’s creating “Green Jobs” then the Libs are placated. Facts, unbiased information and history are irrelevant.
Libs really only care about self-congratulation.
visions on June 13, 2011 at 10:20 AM
I want to see Obama’s school records and a list of all his professors.
Stupid is as stupid is taught.
Roy Rogers on June 13, 2011 at 10:22 AM
Fixed it.
I say bar none
RDE2010 on June 13, 2011 at 10:23 AM
‘…if they don’t have the fact base to make it really compelling,” said McDonald.’ They can always make up a few facts to further the agenda. It’s what pols do.
Kissmygrits on June 13, 2011 at 10:23 AM
Hehe, imagine that – no evidence of how crappy it is until *after* the next election…
Midas on June 13, 2011 at 10:23 AM
“Green Jobs” is identical in flavor to those stupid “Let’s all turn off our lights for one hour” feel good exercises the libs are always trotting out.
They turn off their lights but keep the A/C running because hey, I can use a candle to read but have you seen the heat index out there?
Bishop on June 13, 2011 at 10:24 AM
“Green Job” this must refer to all the people whose “job” it now is to draw unemployment while being “green” with envy at those who still have some sort of job no matter how menial…
BadMojo on June 13, 2011 at 10:25 AM
The only green jobs Obama should be focused on are the ones that produce the “green.” Not enough of those as it is; who cares about this? As long as it has “jobs” than they can pat themselves on their overpayed backs.
RDE2010 on June 13, 2011 at 10:27 AM
Mr. Empty Suit at it again!
gullxn on June 13, 2011 at 10:30 AM
To be fair, we’re not yet to 2.5 years into his presidency.
That’s important for two reasons, (a) just being accurate and (b) comparing it to other administrations.
By Spring of 1983:
The Reagan plan was starting to work by June 1983, and everybody knew it. Unemployment was stubborn (primarily because of unions fighting market forces), but the avalanche of jobs was obvious. We see nothing good coming from Obama’s plan (borrow and spend trillions).
mankai on June 13, 2011 at 10:34 AM
Green jobs are those jobs where people run around saying we need to have more green jobs. The jobs just create themselves! I’m changing careers today – this is recession-proof.
ericdijon on June 13, 2011 at 10:35 AM
This is the “deal” Obama worked out on the golf course with GOP leadership???
Roy Rogers on June 13, 2011 at 10:35 AM
The green jobs are all in Spain.
forest on June 13, 2011 at 10:37 AM
They’re forcing tech down our throats that isn’t there yet. I posted a while ago that I would love to use nothing but off-the-grid energy sources for the new hawk’s nest on the property we just bought. We will probably still do it now after getting some advice from another Hot Air commenter, but it’s still going to be expensive. About 35K before tax breaks. There just aren’t many people who can afford it in the first place, and the return right now is minimal unless you’ll be in the home for a long time.
Most people want this stuff. If you libs think Conservatives wouldn’t love affordable clean energy, you’re nuts. You’re nuts and we’re realists.
hawkdriver on June 13, 2011 at 10:39 AM
Obama’s green jobs czar was a commie. In his rule of office, he never did define what a green job was. Indirectly agriculture has been around since day one but it was placed under the umbrella of green jobs.
If it was done to bring in siome real numbers to look good, I understand. if gereen is goood, why not irrigate farms again in California and generate green jobs?
seven on June 13, 2011 at 10:42 AM
If you stared at grass for 11 weeks in a row, wouldn’t you think “green?”
RDE2010 on June 13, 2011 at 10:43 AM
Has no one ever explained the law of diminishing returns to this Administration?
If Geithner and Obama had simply written federal checks and given each unemployed or underemployed American $50 – $75k each year for the next decade, we’d end up a lot less in debt than under the current “stimulus” and run-away federal spending on make-believe “green jobs” and so-called pathways to the 21st Century, and we could still cut taxes across the board.
coldwarrior on June 13, 2011 at 10:44 AM
Don’t ask Van Jones to define a green job for you. He didn’t have a clue and he was the Green Jobs czar for God’s sake!
Doughboy on June 13, 2011 at 10:49 AM
It’s near impossible to develop that tech in a private sector stifling financial environment.
How do you develop “environmentally friendly” technology that is attacked by “friendly environmentalists” at every step in the SDLC?
Japan was heavily investing in solar technology development Yuma, AZ 20 years ago. Turns out that solar cells disrupt the feeding cycles of horned lizards! The EPA lawsuits put this green energy initiative right out of business.
Roy Rogers on June 13, 2011 at 10:49 AM
coldwarrior on June 13, 2011 at 10:44 AM
hawkdriver on June 13, 2011 at 10:50 AM
How CONVENIENT for Barry’s campaign.
Here in Kalfornia, we’re still waiting for Arnold’s “green jobs”.
GarandFan on June 13, 2011 at 10:50 AM
The money wouldn’t have gotten to the “right” people if they did it like that.
hawkdriver on June 13, 2011 at 10:51 AM
Just another scam. And I refuse to buy anything labeled as “green.”
Blake on June 13, 2011 at 10:53 AM
Obama wants credit for improving his game on the green.
Same response he used during his Gulf Oil Spill disaster.
Roy Rogers on June 13, 2011 at 10:53 AM
This morning NPR was touting the jobs created to produce the Chevy Volt and its components.
No mention of if this indicates an increase in cars made in the US, or if the new jobs simply mean an increase in manpower and new equipment required to build the same total number of GM cars as before.
Potentially meaning that green jobs are once again less efficient, and therefore unsustainable.
tomg51 on June 13, 2011 at 10:53 AM
People are looking in the wrong places for those green jobs. Obamavilles are popping up all over America. Hobos are taking to the woods to survive Obamanomics. It doesn’t get any ‘greener’ than a literal return to nature and living off the land and in caves, bears’ dens or recycling scraps and junk to build a leanto. Talk about reducing your carbon footprint. Employment here in Boondockville is 100%, no taxes, no big brother regulations on what and how to build etc. Personally, I’ve gone Galt, returned to nature, and I’m loving it. Green acres is the place for me…… Hey the public librarian is harassing me again. Gotta go for now…………………..
JimP on June 13, 2011 at 10:54 AM
Maybe “Green Job” means working the Golf Course? Who is paying BHO´s “Green Fee”?
gullxn on June 13, 2011 at 10:54 AM
Don’t worry because the Obama administration has an answer for this and the “Green Jobs” will be happening as soon as the EPA pushes though regulations that are going to force coal plants to close.
Consumers’ electric bills likely to spike as coal plants close
JeffinSac on June 13, 2011 at 10:56 AM
About two years ago several coal-fired plants were taken off of the planned construction list in East Texas. This was economic – the owners could make more money by not building and forcing power rates higher from existing facilities. Capitalism mimicking Obama. Sad.
tomg51 on June 13, 2011 at 10:56 AM
Just think how much pollution is not being created by all those people out of work; no driving to work, no having to run the electricity at the factories on over time, no more conspicuous consumption…they aren’t unemployed, the have Green Jobs!
albill on June 13, 2011 at 11:03 AM
Green jobs = Mexican lawn care. Its summer. Of course there’s “green jobs” now.
/s
44Magnum on June 13, 2011 at 11:07 AM
That’s what happens when you elect an egghead elite as President: When reality doesn’t match his beautiful theory, it’s reality that has to change.
This was so predictable. I’m so disappointed in the American electorate for not being able to see through this poseur. The left’s deconstruction of public education played a large part in the failure, as intended.
Socratease on June 13, 2011 at 11:16 AM
The problem isn’t the jobs themselves…it is the need to immediately tear down other viable resources before this grand plan is even near implimentation. You have to do the opposite and prop that stuff up. The left does this all the time. They destroy destroy destroy on a wing and a prayer.
tomas on June 13, 2011 at 11:16 AM
Same for “eco”
But I’m admittedly conflicted over the Ford Eco-Tech engines.
tomg51 on June 13, 2011 at 11:18 AM
Ah yes, nothing like telling a “good story” even if the facts don’t support your story. Oh, those pesky facts . . .
But go ahead anyway, Obama, and keep lying your a$$ off. The MSM will never tell on you — that’s one fact we can always count on.
AZCoyote on June 13, 2011 at 11:19 AM
A young man who is a member of our private shooting club built a nice little rig that seperates the lead and copper from the the sand berm backstops. He now has contracts with a couple other shooting club ranges and makes a pretty good income from the copper jackets and lead bullets.That is one green job that required no governmental incentive and the club gets their berms cleaned and he gets the market value of the lead and copper.
fourdeucer on June 13, 2011 at 11:21 AM
All the “Green Jobs” went to the “Little Green Men”.
ronsfi on June 13, 2011 at 11:29 AM
What is the device?
I have a berm that I shoot at that I would like to do that to but so far the only method I’ve used is using a rock rake to try and yank out the chunks; slow and clumsy.
Bishop on June 13, 2011 at 11:29 AM
The use of “GREEN” to justify a government action is a violation of the Constitutional prohibition of a government-established religion.
landlines on June 13, 2011 at 11:36 AM
East Texas huh? Well howdy neighbor!
BadMojo on June 13, 2011 at 11:36 AM
The kid built it himself. It consists of a hopper the width of a small front end loader, has a vibrating conveyor that sends the sand right back to the front end loader and the lead and copp0er jackets fall into 55 gallon drums. The whole thing runs on a small 20 HP gas engine. He dumps a load into the hopper, puts the front end loader bucket under a scoop and when the berms have been cleaned he just puts the 55 gallon drums on his truck and returns the sand to the berms.
fourdeucer on June 13, 2011 at 12:01 PM
“Green” is just a crutch that, usually Libs, fall back onto when their main argument fails.
If the green jobs metric is ever rolled out, I’d bet my premium gas guzzling BMW that it will be at a time near the 2012 election where some fairy tale number can be pulled out to show how glorious the Obama is. And since they’re saying it won’t be until November, if they roll it out early then they get to claim credit for how stupendously efficient they are that they figured it out ahead of schedule as well.
smfic on June 13, 2011 at 12:10 PM
I find it interesting that virtually ALL “green” technologies that the government is supporting rely on rare earth elements. China produces around 95% of the world market’s REEs.
Dysprosium – Hybrid Car Motors, hard drives, Nuclear Reactor control rods.
Neodymium – Hybrid Car Motors, Wind Turbine magnets
Lanthanum – Nickel-Metal-Hydride Batteries NiMH. Guess what batteries hybrid cars use?
Those are just three of the seventeen REEs. Solar cells, oil refineries, etc. are also dependent on REEs. China as also begun artificially driving up the prices on rare earth elements by “stockpiling”.
This is probably the Chinese responding to QE2 with economic warfare.
darclon on June 13, 2011 at 12:13 PM
Seriously, we need to attack radical environmentalism by demonstrating that it is the religion of the left. It has all the components, -faith over scientific proof, gods and saints, eschatology, places of worship, etc. Then we can use that very holiest of the unwritten constitutional amendments, that of ‘separation between church and state,’ against it.
slickwillie2001 on June 13, 2011 at 12:16 PM
Most of the Green jobs apparently went to illegal immigrant grounds keepers.
pat on June 13, 2011 at 12:18 PM
Here in Kern County, CA, we are fighting green jobs in my valley. A proposal to put hundreds of acres of solar panels here has many problems: on prime farmland, on top of a couple residential areas, in a flood plain, on an important river which supports the largest remaining riparian forest in the southwest, and many more. It also will be an eyesore in the middle of a beautiful mountain valley.
The jobs? 300 temporary (6 mo. max) low-paying ($12/hr) jobs, “up to” 6 full-time low paying jobs. The benefits to us locals? Ø, zip, nada. Who benefits? The development company in our case is composed of Dems who have been politically active at high levels, and would make a killing.
So that’s where the green jobs are – in battles with citizens and planning commissions all over the country. We are in a coalition of groups fighting wind and solar projects, representing thousands of property owners AND environmentalists who are furious.
jodetoad on June 13, 2011 at 12:25 PM
If only those gubmint scientists would get on the ball and genetically create unicorns, there would be no problem with creating kajillions of green jobs**!
** Green jobs, as has been the case with me from Day One, are to muck out the unicorns’ stalls.
ya2daup on June 13, 2011 at 12:51 PM
Even without the “Quick, buy gold and hoard it!” scare stuff, this is serious. My economics guy just gave me some projections on the economy with another term of this nonsense.
You guys are fighting for future generations.
IlikedAUH2O on June 13, 2011 at 1:18 PM
I wrote a post on the 3d of June (after teh Present’s BS Chrysler speech), when a ridiculous CNBC article titled “Hype Aside, ‘Green Jobs’ Are For Real” appeared. In my commentary I noted:
tree hugging sister on June 13, 2011 at 2:25 PM
Where is the green jobs explosion?
“The Department of Energy, for example, acknowledged last year that for all the focus on green jobs, $2.3 billion in manufacturing tax credits eventually went to foreign firms in China, South Korea, and Spain.” RocketNews, 6/13/11
Mr_Magoo on June 13, 2011 at 4:00 PM
Sounds like it works like the kitty litter gadget.
slickwillie2001 on June 13, 2011 at 6:49 PM
It’s in the UNEMPLOYMENT FIGURES
Dr. Charles G. Waugh on June 14, 2011 at 2:13 AM
It’s in the UNEMPLOYMENT FIGURES for those previously holding non-green jobs. As the the Spanish national study found–for every 1 green job you gain, you lose 2.2 non-green jobs.
PS: Sorry for the partial comment above. I apparently hit the wrong key.
Dr. Charles G. Waugh on June 14, 2011 at 2:16 AM
Green jobs are like ethanol.
To make one gallon ethanol it takes 2 gallons a petroleum
Foe every green job it kills 3 regular jobs.
esnap on June 14, 2011 at 12:50 PM