Special Relationship update: Obama sides with Argentina, Hugo Chavez on Falklands

posted at 5:56 pm on June 9, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

And not for the first time, either.  In part of Barack Obama’s “smart power” diplomacy that he promised would restore our standing with American allies, the Obama administration sided with Argentina in demanding that the UK open negotiations over the status of the Falkland Islands, joining such stalwart American allies as Nicaragua and Venezuela.  The OAS declaration even uses the Argentinian name for the islands, a particular insult, as Nile Gardiner notes:

President Obama was effusive in his praise for the Special Relationship when he visited London recently, but his administration continues to slap Britain in the face over the highly sensitive Falklands issue. Washington signed on to a “draft declaration on the question of the Malvinas Islands”passed by unanimous consent by the General Assembly of the Organisation of American States (OAS) at its meeting in San Salvador yesterday, an issue which had been heavily pushed by Argentina. In doing so, the United States sided not only with Buenos Aires, but also with a number of anti-American regimes including Hugo Chavez’s Venezuela and Daniel Ortega’s Nicaragua. …

Washington backed a similar resolution in June last year, and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton made it clear in a joint press conference with Cristina Kirchner in Buenos Aires in March 2010 that the Obama administration fully backs Argentina’s calls for negotiations over the Falkands, handing her Argentine counterpart a significant propaganda coup. The State Department has also insultingly referred to the Islands in the past as the Malvinas, the Argentine name for them.

As far as the British are concerned, there is no “sovereignty dispute.”  According to the Falklanders themselves (from last year), there isn’t a dispute, either:

The 3,000-strong community is already proudly British – the phone boxes are the old red ones, the groceries are from Waitrose and many still refer to the UK as “home”.

A police officer described how last week’s Argentine sabre-rattling had set off a rash of unofficial flag-flying, joining the houses that already have the British or Falklands flag painted on roofs and walls. “Everybody’s on edge really but they’re being philosophical about it,” said the police officer. …

The younger islanders may not share the older generation’s memories but there is clearly no love lost with the Argentines among them, too. A handful live on the islands but “keep a very low profile”, said Mrs Edwards. There is very little trade with Argentina, and supplies and visitors have to come either from Chile or Britain. “We’ve got used to living as if Argentina’s not there,” said Warren Miller, 16. “So long as they don’t attack us again, I’m not bothered what they do.”

So the people who live there want to remain part of the UK.  On what basis does the US intend to demand talks over sovereignty?  It can’t be self-determination, because if that were the case, there would be no question that the Falklands are British, and should stay British.  Nor can it be a question of colonialism, as the Falklands have their own home-rule government within the UK’s sovereignty, and the people of the islands consider themselves fully British.  Moreover, the OAS declaration comes in response to a threat of military action from Argentina, which has publicly talked about a blockade of British shipping in the region over sovereignty claims by Buenos Aires.

Back to Gardiner for some perspective:

It is hugely disappointing that the Obama administration has chosen once again to side not only with the increasingly authoritarian regime in Argentina, but also with an array of despots in Latin America against British interests. Mrs Clinton should be reminded that 255 brave British servicemen laid down their lives in 1982 for the freedom of the Falkland Islanders, who are overwhelmingly British, following the brutal Argentine invasion.

The sovereignty of the Islands is not a matter for negotiation, and Britain will never give in to threats from Argentina or its tyrannical allies in places such as Venezuela. The White House recently declared that Britain remains America’s most important ally. Now it should live up to its words by supporting Washington’s closest friend and partner on matters of vital British interest, including the future of British subjects living in the South Atlantic, whose only wish is to remain free under the protection of the Union Jack.

There seems to be no reason for the Obama administration to back a demand for negotiations over the Falklands, unless it’s just to curry favor with anti-American regimes by tossing our allies under the bus as appeasement.  It’s an absurd stance and an insult to the British, as well as to the actual people on the islands themselves.

Update: Fausta can’t believe it either.

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The next president is going to have to engage in a serious apology tour.

Akzed on June 9, 2011 at 6:24 PM

Bingo

txmomof6 on June 9, 2011 at 6:55 PM

“It’s an absurd stance and an insult to the British, as well as to the actual people on the islands themselves.”

And to me as well.

FOWG1 on June 9, 2011 at 6:58 PM

Most Brits apparently hate Britain these days and can’t hand it over fast enough to the Muslims. So, don’t expect a lotta outrage.

Akzed on June 9, 2011 at 6:28 PM

You’re opinion of us Brits is about as accurate as if I took the opinion of the average Berkeley student or NY Times-loving, Harvard-elitist, Leftist and applied it to all Americans.

British troops fought and died to protect the Falklands from Argentinian aggression- and British troops have been fighting and dying alongside our American ally since the war on terror began. Actually, a lot of us are utterly furious about what Obama’s just done- but I know better than to start screeching about bloody ungrateful Yanks. I can see the difference between the complete moron currently occupying the White House and the great nation he’s- unfortunately- currently running.

I can only hope that Congress recognises the massive insult this is to Britain- especially considering that we’re fighting wars together- and that they, even symbolically, rebuke Obama’s preposterous position.

Jay Mac on June 9, 2011 at 7:02 PM

So sad to see this happening. It would be like if Russia started making noise about wanting Alaska back, and we were in such a shambles that victory was by no means guaranteed. How awful that older Britons have to see this.

Uncle Sams Nephew on June 9, 2011 at 6:11 PM

Don’t give Obama ideas. He gave away our missile defense of Europe for nothing in return. What makes you think he won’t happily give away a red state like Alaska?

KW64 on June 9, 2011 at 7:03 PM

Too bad for the British if they don’t like it. The British public fell head over heels in love with Obama, loved his apology tour, and hated everything they could think of about dirty old conservatives in America. They can kiss Obama’s you-know-what as far as I’m concerned.

BillCarson on June 9, 2011 at 6:49 PM

Yep. Morons. My Brit relatives, “the aging Trotskyites,” thought the only way the US could redeem the country was to elect an idiot.

We’re no longer on speaking terms. My phone number is unlisted. They don’t have it(thank heavens, because like all liberals the only reason they called was to ask for money and favors), and they can’t reach me by email. I tossed them for good.

And life is far more pleasant.

Cody1991 on June 9, 2011 at 7:04 PM

Payback for the Royal Wedding snub?

The Chewbacca Defense on June 9, 2011 at 7:05 PM

If the Argentines can go in and take it, then fine. If they get their tails kicked again, that’s fine as well. Not our concern.

Dr. ZhivBlago on June 9, 2011 at 7:09 PM

Dr. ZhivBlago on June 9, 2011 at 7:09 PM

Whew! Thanks doc, problem solved! Now just get yerself elected POTUS.

Akzed on June 9, 2011 at 7:11 PM

And yet the British morons would do everything in their power to keep this guy in power and undermine somebody like Palin. What they sow, they reap.

promachus on June 9, 2011 at 7:16 PM

It’s not Obama I’m worried about. It’s the people who put him in the White House that are the problem.

Crux Australis on June 9, 2011 at 7:18 PM

Dr. ZhivBlago on June 9, 2011 at 7:09 PM

Whew! Thanks doc, problem solved! Now just get yerself elected POTUS.

Akzed on June 9, 2011 at 7:11 PM

Right after you get yourself elected to Parliament.

Dr. ZhivBlago on June 9, 2011 at 7:21 PM

I’m telling ya, Britain. Obama would just as soon see you buckle under, rather than look at you. He’s not your ally. We are. The people of the U.S. (not all apparently) but we are.

Don’t even fathom a friendly relationship with the dictator wannabe. He’ll back stab. He started that when he returned the bust of Churchill.

capejasmine on June 9, 2011 at 7:23 PM

Sarah Palin should visit the Falklands…

Kafir on June 9, 2011 at 7:34 PM

Lets not lump in the rank-and-file Brits with their leaders. I’m sure there are more than a few who watched Obama return Churchill’s bust wonder what kind of “friend” Obama was going to be. Now there’s no doubt.

itsspideyman on June 9, 2011 at 7:34 PM

Jay Mac on June 9, 2011 at 7:02 PM

Just saw your thread Jay Mac. Exactly what I thought.

itsspideyman on June 9, 2011 at 7:35 PM

I’ll bet this sends sivers down the backs of the Taiwanese. China will see this as an invitation to take Taiwan with Obama’s backing.

RJL on June 9, 2011 at 7:35 PM

Obama – Backstabber-in-Chief, along with the worthless State Department led by a cluelss Secretary. With ‘friends’ like these, who needs enemies?

Bob in VA on June 9, 2011 at 7:35 PM

How can a man of whom I had nothing but bad expectations still prove to be such a disappointment and an embarrassment?

JEM on June 9, 2011 at 7:39 PM

Jay Mac on June 9, 2011 at 7:02 PM

So true.

The enemies of western civilization are always there and always must be fought. Unfortunately, in the USA, we managed to elect one of our enemies to the highest office.

iconoclast on June 9, 2011 at 7:47 PM

“How does an Argentine commit suicide? By jumping off his ego.”

I didn’t say that.

Seth Halpern on June 9, 2011 at 7:51 PM

The US has not sided with Argentina.

lexhamfox on June 9, 2011 at 7:54 PM

coldwarrior on June 9, 2011 at 6:54 PM

The poor soldiers are not remembered. We went to war thanks to a drunk (Galtieri) against a country we couldn’t match, all as a means of uniting the country under the banner of nationalism to distract from more pressing internal issues.

As for the “desaparecidos”, that’s different. That’s get drummed every day by every ultra leftist group you can imagine starting with Madres de Plaza de Mayo (the old ladies wearing white scarfs over their heads during protests, and great friends with Chavez) to the president herself.

But make no mistake, because it has been one of the worstly distorted aspects of Argentinean history: the so called “desaparecidos” weren’t any saints. They were domestic terrorists many of which killed innocent people looking to destabilize the nation. Those who were picked up were so only with evidence, and the innocent were let go. The whole intelligence aspect wasn’t handled in the best way possible as far as PR, and thus it was easy to twist the history to create this falsehood that innocent people was being abducted by the government.

It is always presented that the desaparecidos were victims when it wasn’t the case, nor was the government at the time just picking people at random. We were in the middle of a civil war, plain and simple, between a military government and far left groups not shy of planting bombs and killing chldren. And just like in any war, some innocents died.

Cristina Kitchner was part of one of those groups (Montoneros), and she hid in the south for years until government changed and all was “forgiven” to both sides. When her husband took office (and later her) the first thing they did was to dismantle the military and start trials against everyone she had a grudge against from back in the day.

ptcamn on June 9, 2011 at 7:58 PM

IF Palin does meet with Lady Thatcher in July the possibility of a statement from one or both women concerning the Falklands should reveal the “smart power” idiots for who and what they really are…

Gohawgs on June 9, 2011 at 8:02 PM

The US has not sided with Argentina.

lexhamfox on June 9, 2011 at 7:54 PM

Obama has not sided with Argentina… yet.

RJL on June 9, 2011 at 8:06 PM

ptcamn on June 9, 2011 at 7:58 PM

Again, thank you. (An old dog [me] can learn a few new things once in a while here at Hot Air.)

Argentina could be so much better…and was once upon a time. So long as the Left continues to pervert things, and Galtieri was a pretty typical fascist type, and Kirchner is blatantly so, the hopes for free and freedom-loving people across the globe will be dashed…all in the name of some kind of “greater good.

The only “greater good” is allowing people to run their own lives…not government trying to run things for them.

As for the Falklands, it’d be a bit different if there was a distinct “oppressed” non-British population in the Falklands and South Georgia clamoring for freedom. But there is none and hasn’t been, ever. Obama deciding that the Brits need to cede the Falklands is no different than some other megalomaniac once demanding lebensraum.

coldwarrior on June 9, 2011 at 8:10 PM

Wait until the islanders get back to England and see what was allowed to become of the once Great Britain…

KZnextzone on June 9, 2011 at 8:27 PM

Barack Hussein Obama hates British people.

FlatFoot on June 9, 2011 at 8:31 PM

coldwarrior on June 9, 2011 at 6:54 PM

Amen coldwarrior. You are spot on.

ptcamn on June 9, 2011 at 8:34 PM

I forgot to add….we might see the US battling GB naval vessels over the Falklands? We’ll go to war with an old ally?

Twana on June 9, 2011 at 6:18 PM

Not Obama’s style. He’ll find others to do that kind of dirty work, or sit back and do nothing while the no-goodniks in the region run wild.

Uncle Sams Nephew on June 9, 2011 at 8:35 PM

Oh my goodness, does he have any good sense tact?

Aronne on June 9, 2011 at 8:41 PM

There is so much Obama can learn from Argentina, about how to collapse an economy and transform a nation from an economic giant to a general state of emergency.

Kenosha Kid on June 9, 2011 at 9:03 PM

The US has not sided with Argentina.

lexhamfox on June 9, 2011 at 7:54 PM

Are you attempting to minimize what Obama has done here?

He has failed to side with our most reliable ally on a matter that should not be in dispute, and in abrogation of the prior policy of our country. He is intentionally undermining one of our most important strategic relationships.

novaculus on June 9, 2011 at 9:07 PM

As far as I can tell – correct me if I’m wrong – Obama seems to think he can revisit all the wars of the past, all the treaties, all the working out of boundaries that have already been worked out – and change them to something he likes better?

Is this too off-base? Because it’s the impression I’m getting.

Alana on June 9, 2011 at 9:18 PM

There seems to be no reason for the Obama administration to back a demand for negotiations over the Falklands, unless it’s just to curry favor with anti-American regimes by tossing our allies under the bus as appeasement

part of his MO

cmsinaz on June 9, 2011 at 9:25 PM

And not for the first time, either. In part of Barack Obama’s “smart power” diplomacy that he promised would restore our standing with American allies, the Obama administration sided with Argentina in demanding that the UK open negotiations over the status of the Falkland Islands,
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Once again,Hopey shows his true colours.

Leader of the Free World he is not!

Nothing more,than a Community Agitator!

canopfor on June 9, 2011 at 9:28 PM

part of his MO

cmsinaz on June 9, 2011 at 9:25 PM

cmsinaz:You nailed it:)

canopfor on June 9, 2011 at 9:29 PM

PSYOP of the Falkland Islands War
By SGM Herbert A. Friedman (Ret.)
***********************************

http://www.psywar.org/falklands.php

canopfor on June 9, 2011 at 9:32 PM

During the 2008 campaign, if my memory serves, polls of the British showed like 70 or 80% preference for Obama. The British wanted a President Obama. As far as I am concerned, they can choke on him.

DeathB4Tyranny on June 9, 2011 at 9:38 PM

Eh, this Obaho the Kenyan is one of the socialists, but just not as smart…

n0doz on June 9, 2011 at 10:06 PM

THIS IS ANOTHER PRECEDENT FOR THE ARABS AND THE WEST BANK.

OBAMA CONSITENTLY SIDES WITH WHOMEVER THE LEFT FEELS IS A VICTIM OF COLONIALISM.

reliapundit on June 9, 2011 at 10:16 PM

Communists stick together.

rcl on June 9, 2011 at 10:25 PM

Frankly Brits, this serves you right.

You cheered for Obama despite the warning signs he would be anti British. (Colonial Kenya is where his dad was from)

This should also be a wake up call for how Britain treats Israel regarding “occupied territory”.

scotash on June 9, 2011 at 10:27 PM

As outraged as I feel about this latest incident of Obama/Clinton stabbing an American ally in the back, I suspect this will actually help Obama domestically by pulling the academic/”anticolonial” left back into his circle of support. Most of us who are seething over this stuff wouldn’t vote for this jerk in a million years in the first place.

DaMav on June 9, 2011 at 10:35 PM

All we can say at this point to the Brits – and Falklanders, and everyone else, but especially the Brits – is “we apologize for the difficulties and ask your forbearance during this difficult time. We will be resuming normal relations in January 2013.”

HitNRun on June 9, 2011 at 11:48 PM

Time for Ali, no time for Gordon.

AshleyTKing on June 10, 2011 at 12:02 AM

Crap like this genuinely amazes me.

Obama succeeds in manufacturing a foreign policy blunder from whole cloth. This isn’t a fumble in response to a problem that emerged on its own, but a problem that Obama has damned near invented all by himself. The man must be certifiably insane as well as criminally incompetent.

leereyno on June 10, 2011 at 3:40 AM

Unbelievable. I have been to the falklands, They are british, through and through. They have a very independent attitude, similar to the aussies, and they were fabulous when I was there.

Obama just seems to get worse each day. Unbelievable.

karenhasfreedom on June 9, 2011 at 6:36 PM

Karen,

Agreed, I’ve been there too. Could have been an island 2 miles off the coast of Scotland.

Biggest sad reminder of the war is large square miles of fields still scattered with land mines. The soil is too rocky for mine removal machines to work – they’ve tried them all. It still takes out the assorted sheep.

I’ve also been to Buenos Aires. No similarity to the 2 cultures at all.

Obama and Hillary are fools with this. Our nation is currently a disgrace. MUST. FIX.

Jimmy Doolittle on June 10, 2011 at 3:42 AM

I’m so glad I got out of the Marine Corps before I was forced to serve under this @sshat…..

I seriously can not comprehend how this man thinks the way he does…. There is not one bit of logic involved…..

Worst President EVER.

StompUDead on June 10, 2011 at 3:57 AM

These two gentlemen were unavailable for comment

Trafalgar on June 10, 2011 at 7:39 AM

Grr, link didn’t attach

http://www.britains-smallwars.com/Falklands/vc.htm

Trafalgar on June 10, 2011 at 7:39 AM

We’ve become “No worse ally, no better enemy.”

The_Livewire on June 10, 2011 at 7:57 AM

but I don’t think UK will go to war to keep them either.

Don’t you count on it. Our national symbol is the bulldog.

The Falklanders will have our full support as long as they wish it.

Hope on June 10, 2011 at 8:14 AM

The Falklanders will have our full support as long as they wish it.

Hope on June 10, 2011 at 8:14 AM

British Forces South Atlantic Islands are not going anywhere in the near term. Port Stanley airport as the local military base was long ago replaced by RAF Mount Pleasant.`

If I were UK, I’d ask that the current US Ambassador be told to return to Washington. I’d have no further contacts with the current White House, either.

coldwarrior on June 10, 2011 at 8:26 AM

Don’t you count on it. Our national symbol is the bulldog.

The Falklanders will have our full support as long as they wish it.

Hope on June 10, 2011 at 8:14 AM

And for the blood we’ve spilled together, real Americans will support the British as long the British wish it.

itsspideyman on June 10, 2011 at 8:55 AM

The Brits are being done just like us

the commie elites surround themselves with humas so that one stinkin muzzys concerns matter more than millions of citizens

Sonosam on June 10, 2011 at 9:00 AM

The US has not sided with Argentina.

lexhamfox on June 9, 2011 at 7:54 PM

Good Lord, man. It must be the lack of air from having your lips permanently affixed to Obama’s backside.

The Brits and the Argentinians fought a war over the Falklands in 1982. The Brits won. The simple fact that Pres “I won’t interfere with a sovereign nation” is inserting himself into an attempt to accomplish with political bullying what Argentina couldn’t do with military force is proof enough of where he stands. This is Honduras all over again.

inmypajamas on June 10, 2011 at 9:15 AM

How much more confirmation do we need about the attitude and character of the fraud in the oval office?

HomeoftheBrave on June 10, 2011 at 9:15 AM

What an idiot. Will we ever recover from the damage he is doing to America and our allies?

Hopeless Future on June 10, 2011 at 9:35 AM

So the people who live there want to remain part of the UK. On what basis does the US intend to demand talks over sovereignty? It can’t be self-determination, because if that were the case, there would be no question that the Falklands are British, and should stay British. Nor can it be a question of colonialism, as the Falklands have their own home-rule government within the UK’s sovereignty, and the people of the islands consider themselves fully British. Moreover, the OAS declaration comes in response to a threat of military action from Argentina, which has publicly talked about a blockade of British shipping in the region over sovereignty claims by Buenos Aires.

Gawd I hope this turd of a president does not meddle with Puerto Ricoand the other US Territories which are under HIS control; where he can just kick off the islands and grant them independence without realizing the crass lack of judgment that that would cause. Like I want the whole island to go on to civil war! This has been an issue I grew up with and it’s been “the Hatfields vs. the McCoys” before I was born.

Barack Obama has absolutely NO say nor support what should happen to Las Islas Malvinas-that’s between England and Argentina and I was aware that that relationship hasn’t been pleasant since the “takeover”.

I remember this soap opera, very family-oriented with incredible TV ratings; where the teacher showed a map and made the students say, “Las Islas Malvinas son Argentinas” over and over again. It was Argentinian patriotism from their POV. Personally, it didn’t make sense to me at the time why the UK wanted these islands in the first place, but that was not for me to decide.

If Obama takes on the US Territories and decides to eliminate any relationship, currency, US Passports, so on and so forth then we’ll have Cuba, Venezuela and other countries that don’t like us use Puerto Rico as a strategic location against the US-and history repeating itself- with their hipocrisy of embracing Puerto Rico and the other islands as “freedom from the yanquis”.

Hehehe this will be a great day to check PR’s online media-see if my crowd is paying attention to Obama because “he’s not harming the island right now.” And with that I mean those that are asleep, but are going through the exact same situations that Americans are facing here. They just know things were better in the past; so far it is the indirect effect of Obama’s destruction of THIS country.

If my sister is talking (well fantasyzing) that she will eventually move here, imagine the mass exodus from all the US Territories. It’ll make the first one look like a remote dot in this country’s history.

Who in the world can call for his impeachment?

ProudPalinFan on June 10, 2011 at 9:56 AM

Season 17 of Top Gear begins this Sunday; I’ll be listening for swipes at us coming from Jeremy Clarkson.

Ward Cleaver on June 10, 2011 at 10:00 AM

OH CRAP HE’S WILL GO TO PUERTO RICO!

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jeffn21 on June 10, 2011 at 10:15 AM

Obama will visit Puerto Rico for four hours, and will grab some $$ for fundraising. I will post more because I am in shock and right now the security logistics plus people that want to see him – and give him a piece of their mind – is also part of the schedule.

Heh will meet with Governor Fortuño (R-PR).

ProudPalinFan on June 10, 2011 at 10:17 AM

So, Obama sides with the Argentinians (and the Venezuelans, and the Nicaraguans) against Britain. Of course he does. It ought to be pretty plain that this president is the most anti-freedom American president in history.

RebeccaH on June 10, 2011 at 10:21 AM

Obama wants Great Britain to go back to their 1667 borders….

jon1979 on June 10, 2011 at 10:35 AM

I doubt Obama has anyone he would not sell out if he gets the opportunity.

JIMV on June 10, 2011 at 10:56 AM

I doubt Obama has anyone he would not sell out if he gets the opportunity.

JIMV on June 10, 2011 at 10:56 AM

That’s what sends me chills down my spine. There’s nothing that Castro, Carter, Chavez and their ilk to seize any chance about Puerto Rico.

Puerto Rico’s self-determination process is extremely fragile, because Congress can say and do anything about the island but the people in PR did NOT vote for Obama (only in the primaries and Hillary beat him 3 to 1). One strike of that stupid pen and all the efforts to help the US and PR to remain free will go down the drain.

Been writing with fear and fury at the same time on my blog about all this. I have to remind myself to stay away from the computer to minimize photosensitivity. I wonder if my sis knew about the visit and she didn’t tell me because she knows how I feel about Obama (which I cannot write here-I’d get the ban hammer).

ProudPalinFan on June 10, 2011 at 11:24 AM

Look at the results of the past primaries in PR.

ProudPalinFan on June 10, 2011 at 11:26 AM

Wait until the “Big 0″ backs Hawaiian Independence.

From Wikipedia:

The Hawaiian sovereignty movement (ke ea Hawai‘i) is a political movement seeking some form of sovereignty for Hawai’i. Generally, the movement’s focus is on self-determination and self-governance for people of whole or part native Hawaiian ancestry or, in some cases, for “Hawaiian nationals”, without regard to ancestry. Some groups advocate redress from the United States for the 1893 overthrow of Queen Liliʻuokalani, and for what is seen as a prolonged military occupation beginning with the 1898 annexation. The movement generally views both the overthrow and annexation as illegal, and holds the U.S. government responsible.

He will utter something about this at some point – expect a “kalua-pigford settlement” sometime in his 2nd Reich term.

in_awe on June 10, 2011 at 1:19 PM

And for the blood we’ve spilled together, real Americans will support the British as long the British wish it.

itsspideyman on June 10, 2011 at 8:55 AM

Thank you. We know it.

Obama and his ilk are just blips.

Hope on June 10, 2011 at 3:17 PM

Is Jug-eared Jesus really that simple-minded, or does he actually despise freedom?

Or does he just hate white people?

hillbillyjim on June 10, 2011 at 5:00 PM

I’m beginning to think he has mommy issues.

hillbillyjim on June 10, 2011 at 5:04 PM

Is Jug-eared Jesus really that simple-minded, or does he actually despise freedom?

Or does he just hate white people?

hillbillyjim on June 10, 2011 at 5:00 PM

The answer is (D) All of The Above

ebrown2 on June 10, 2011 at 5:13 PM

This should point out VERY clearly that Obama is NOT in favor of Democracies the rebels in Egypt et al are trying to establish so much as eliminating governments that are not actively fighting the US in favor of our enemies.

Congress MUST act to get him out of the White House before we’re at war with the entire world.

{+_+}

herself on June 10, 2011 at 6:09 PM

If the Fauklands are to be returned because Argentina occupied them for six years 150 years ago [1826 - 1833], then Germany may reclaim the ancient German cities Breslau, Danzig and Konigsburg, the Greeks may reclaim Constantinople, and the Queen of England may reclaim her lost duchies in Normandy, Anjou and Aquitaine.

Patrick Brogan, The Fighting Never Stopped, Vintage Books, 1990.

Kenosha Kid on June 10, 2011 at 6:32 PM

If the Fauklands are to be returned because Argentina occupied them for six years 150 years ago [1826 - 1833], then Germany may reclaim the ancient German cities Breslau, Danzig and Konigsburg, the Greeks may reclaim Constantinople, and the Queen of England may reclaim her lost duchies in Normandy, Anjou and Aquitaine.

Patrick Brogan, The Fighting Never Stopped, Vintage Books, 1990.

Kenosha Kid on June 10, 2011 at 6:32 PM

Brilliant Kid!

itsspideyman on June 10, 2011 at 7:16 PM

Stole my post. If Chavez really wants those islands, he’s likely to get them. England is in very poor shape for what would basically be a colonial war.

So sad to see this happening. It would be like if Russia started making noise about wanting Alaska back, and we were in such a shambles that victory was by no means guaranteed. How awful that older Britons have to see this.

Uncle Sams Nephew on June 9, 2011 at 6:11 PM

Ummm Chavez wouldn’t get those Islands. It would actually be Cristina Kirchner, the President of Argentina, rather than Hugo Chavez, the president of Venezuela.

Secondly, Kirchner is NOT likely to get those islands. I wasn’t alive in 1982, but having read extensively on the subject, Great Britain was in rough shape in 1982 when they retook the Islands. The war was fought during a major recession, and eight years prior to the war, Britain and just survived another recession. So nearly back to back recessions, 20 plus years of economic and civil strife, and yet the British had the political will/capital to fight for the Islands. I don’t see how things are different today, only in the sense that the UKs army/navy is battle hardened after years of fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan. I’d say that they are in a far better position than in 1982.

Shock the Monkey on June 11, 2011 at 1:45 AM

Where was this Commie born again?

adamsmith on June 11, 2011 at 11:52 AM

NB also that the UK does not claim the islands are British per se. If the people of the Falklands voted tomorrow to become part of Argentina the UK would accept that without hesitation. Contrast Argentina who ignore the clearly expressed wishes of the Falklanders. In other words, for the UK this is about people. For Argentina it is about land, and oil.

SamTrev on February 15, 2012 at 12:05 PM

Well Brits? “Hows that Hopey Changey stuff work’n out for ya?

try again later on June 9, 2011 at 6:54 PM

I was thinking the same thing, but I can’t imagine Brits will turn against Obama. Oddly, I think people in the UK don’t think too much about which party or candidate would be best for their own country. Brits liked Obama partly because of the war on terror – which does affect us – but mostly because of the broad ‘hope change’ post-racial reasons. It’s nice in a sense that we care what happens to America, but it really makes very little difference to the UK.

SamTrev on February 15, 2012 at 12:11 PM

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