Historians agree: Palin was right about Revere

posted at 9:25 am on June 6, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

One if by land, and two if by sea … and then what?  According to historians interviewed by the Boston Herald, Paul Revere then warned the British not to challenge a roused and armed populace.  That came as news to many observers who had rushed to criticize Sarah Palin for her response to a gotcha question at the Old North Church:

Sarah Palin yesterday insisted her claim at the Old North Church last week that Paul Revere “warned the British” during his famed 1775 ride — remarks that Democrats and the media roundly ridiculed — is actually historically accurate. And local historians are backing her up.

Palin prompted howls of partisan derision when she said on Boston’s Freedom Trail that Revere “warned the British that they weren’t going to be taking away our arms by ringing those bells and making sure as he’s riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that we were going to be secure and we were going to be free.”

The first to dispute Palin’s critics was … Paul Revere himself.  In his own account of the ride, written twenty-three years later, Revere recounts how the British captured him, and how he attempted to dissuade the British from advancing.  Revere warned that he had roused the local militias and that there would soon be 500 or more armed citizens coming together to repel the British.

A Boston University history professor told the Herald that Revere did indeed warn the British as well as the Americans earlier in his ride:

Boston University history professor Brendan McConville said, “Basically when Paul Revere was stopped by the British, he did say to them, ‘Look, there is a mobilization going on that you’ll be confronting,’ and the British are aware as they’re marching down the countryside, they hear church bells ringing — she was right about that — and warning shots being fired. That’s accurate.”

Of course, Revere wasn’t planning on getting captured.  He and others riding to the alarm (William Dawes and Samuel Prescott) wanted to warn John Hancock and Samuel Adams of British action first, and rouse the militia second.  Dawes and Prescott managed to elude the British and complete the mission, but Revere was captured.  Furthermore, his warnings sufficiently rattled the British that they let him go — but without his horse.  He returned on foot to Lexington, where he managed to hide a trunk with Hancock’s letters to keep it from being captured, but missed the battle.

Andrew Malcolm notes the “faux gaffe” and gives a history of such in the media:

This phenomenon is actually not a new one in American politics, although its immediate spread is obviously hastened by the Internet. Speaking of which, Al Gore did not invent it. Nor did he claim to, as often as you’ve heard otherwise.

In 1999, the hapless former journalist, who should have known to make a better word choice, told CNN that in Congress he “took the initiative in creating the Internet.”

Democrat Gore never used the word “invented.” That was part of another willful misinterpretation that fit expectations of Gore’s boasts and was gleefully spread by opponents as further proof of his unseemly hubris. It lives on to this day.

Perhaps you remember how one day during a photo op President George H.W. Bush was overheard asking a store checkout clerk how this price scanner thing worked?

That quote was immediately transmitted as proof of how disconnected that Republican chief executive was, that he had no knowledge of something as ordinary as a checkout scanner.

The fact is, asking such inane and often obvious questions as “what are you doing here?” is a bipartisan ploy used by politicians to fill the awkward time void they are hanging around someone working while photographers snap their photos several hundred times.

Frankly, I had forgotten much of the history of Revere’s ride until this incident, and I had to look it up for myself to recall what Palin meant by her response.  Tom Burnam covered it succinctly and accurately in his indispensable Dictionary of Misinformation, a book I have had on my shelf for more than 30 years.  If all people know of Revere is Longfellow’s poem, which is what the reaction to Palin’s remarks seem to show, then they know far less than they think.

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It’s nice to see you guys are taking time out from revising the Paul Revere wiki page to come here and cheerlead Palin.

Dave Rywall on June 6, 2011 at 12:00 PM

Let it go,Dave. We aren’t giving it back. You sound like my sainted Irish grandmother who was still b*tching about Billy the Orange right to the grave.

katy the mean old lady on June 6, 2011 at 12:28 PM

I’d put a sizable amount of money in escrow to bet that Dave has a screencap of Algore winning Florida as his computer monitor wallpaper.

fossten on June 6, 2011 at 12:38 PM

IMHO Palin is doing a great job. She was not just technically correct as the spinners are desperately trying to spin

The story of Paul Revere is as exciting a tale as could be imagined.

I recommend the fabulous book, “Rebels And Redcoats: The American Revolution Through The Eyes Of Those That Fought And Lived It” by Scheer and Rankin.

Chapter I “My Name is Revere” , Lexington, April 19, 1775, dives right into the epic night

The book is derived entirely through writings of the day, updated only to modern English, fully referenced

Read what was done and said from those who were there. It is a high high standard to live up to. Maybe that is what I like about Palin. She has shown guts time and again and the same willingness to cross the line as the forefathers

entagor on June 6, 2011 at 12:38 PM

What I think happened is Palin was was attempting to reverbalize the material provided at the church or the Boston Historical Society. It differs markedly from the popular history and the difference can be confusing. She was simply trying to get right material that varied with what she was taught in school a long time ago. Many tourists walk away scratching their heads.

pat on June 6, 2011 at 12:38 PM

Thanks to the state of public ‘education’ and the Entertainment Tonight mentality, the days of Reagan landslides are over.
George W. was lambasted as an idiot in 2000, and, thanks to me and officially 536 other people, we prevented Albert Arnold Algore the Third from becoming President.

Lanceman on June 6, 2011 at 12:38 PM

adamsmith on June 6, 2011 at 12:30 PM

And tell me again why we should be afraid of MSNBC?

BradSchwartze on June 6, 2011 at 12:39 PM

Like Obama has in all 57 states?

itsspideyman

How many voters knew about Obama’s 57 states gaffe? Not many. How many voters knew about his association with Rev. Wright? Less than half.

How many voters believe Palin isn’t smart enough to be president? Most of them.

The media campaign to destroy her candidacy will be into its 4th year in 2012, and it has worked. She won’t overcome it. Almost no one could. That’s the cold, hard reality. You don’t have to like it. Heck, I don’t like it. But it is what it is. SHE CAN’T WIN! Chances are, she won’t even win the Republican nomination. Deal with reality, or continue to live in a fantasy. The choice is yours of course, but she’s losing either way.

xblade on June 6, 2011 at 12:41 PM

I’d put a sizable amount of money in escrow to bet that Dave has a screencap of Algore winning Florida as his computer monitor wallpaper.

fossten on June 6, 2011 at 12:38 PM

I’d bet on the crotch shot of anthony’s weiner.

VegasRick on June 6, 2011 at 12:43 PM

S

eriously, don’t be a jackass. If you disagree with what I say, fine. But keep your jackassery to yourself.

I am a regular poster on here and have been for many years. I have at many, many times come to Palin’s defense, as another poster on here pointed out. But this blind loyalty to Palin and making excuses for her and attacking those that point out legitimate concerns or criticisms is the same as Obama and his supporters. Some of you really need some objectivity. I want Palin to succeed and I would like to see my side win. But when you can no longer tell the difference between a Democrat and their irrational behavior and a Republican with theirs, we are in some big trouble. Republicans have usually been the logic thinkers (in my opinion, which is why I am a Republican), where as liberals act only on emotion.

I see a lot of emotional responses on here.

And for those of you wanting to continue to attack me, don’t bother. This is the last trip I make to this thread. So your snarky comments will be in vain.

ramrants on June 6, 2011 at 11:50 AM

For some reason, you and other posters like csdeven seem to have the impression that the Palin supporters think that she is free of faults. You’re wrong. We know she has faults, but we think her attributes outweigh those faults.

What really ticks me off, as i’m sure it does other Palin supporters, you and other Palin detractors have one standard for Palin and another standard for your candidate. You will parse her every word and every inflection of her voice, yet remain silent about the other candidate’s perceived flaws. It’s almost as if you need to manufacture a new criticism each day so as to bolster your position that she’s not qualified for the job.

If you and others want to continue to find fault with Palin, I’m sure you will, but cut out the sanctimony and quit thinking that your comments should not be met with resistance. Talk up your own candidate, but stop the silly crap of playing victim constantly just because someone is offended by something you write.

NoNails on June 6, 2011 at 12:47 PM

How many voters believe Palin isn’t smart enough to be president? Most of them.

xblade on June 6, 2011 at 12:41 PM

And, 18 months from now, when conditions are the same or worse than they are now, how many are gonna fall all over themselves to vote again for black Jesus?
I submit to you that a good percentage of obama voters are just gonna stay home if she’s the candidate. Possibly a Dewey Defeats Truman type of headline.
I can assure you, the candidate could be Trump, Ron Paul or even Suckabee and I will still go to my polling place to remove this butthole there now.
I’m coming up on one year of technically being unemployed.

Lanceman on June 6, 2011 at 12:47 PM

How many voters believe Palin isn’t smart enough to be president? Most of them.

The media campaign to destroy her candidacy will be into its 4th year in 2012, and it has worked. She won’t overcome it. Almost no one could. That’s the cold, hard reality. You don’t have to like it. Heck, I don’t like it. But it is what it is. SHE CAN’T WIN! Chances are, she won’t even win the Republican nomination. Deal with reality, or continue to live in a fantasy. The choice is yours of course, but she’s losing either way.

xblade on June 6, 2011 at 12:41 PM

Again, who’s smart enough, xblade? Who can win? What candidate should we Palin supporters abandon Palin for?

Aitch748 on June 6, 2011 at 12:47 PM

x dullblade on June 6, 2011 at 12:41 PM

idesign on June 6, 2011 at 12:48 PM

The media campaign to destroy her candidacy will be into its 4th year in 2012, and it has has not worked.

xblade on June 6, 2011 at 12:41 PM

Fixed it for you

Roy Rogers on June 6, 2011 at 12:48 PM

x dullblade on June 6, 2011 at 12:41 PM

idesign on June 6, 2011 at 12:48 PM

The bus fumes are getting to him

Roy Rogers on June 6, 2011 at 12:49 PM

Aitch748 on June 6, 2011 at 12:47 PM

You must understand that xblade is one of those folks who needs his “Big Bad Liberal Media” crutch on him at all times. Helps him explain why he’s always an ornery old cuss who thinks being ornery is good PR.

IOW, he’s the perfect buyer of Ben Shapiro’s new book.

BradSchwartze on June 6, 2011 at 12:54 PM

The choice is yours of course, but she’s losing either way.

xblade on June 6, 2011 at 12:41 PM

LOL…

pseudoforce on June 6, 2011 at 12:55 PM

SP is trapping the media in toothed iron sprung!

She knows they are lazy and sets her traps accordingly, right out in the open

love the double edge in setting this trap in a story about how people said,”that’s it, the party is over for the king!”

Sonosam on June 6, 2011 at 12:56 PM

I’d put a sizable amount of money in escrow to bet that Dave has a screencap of Algore winning Florida as his computer monitor wallpaper.

fossten on June 6, 2011 at 12:38 PM

It’s that blow up Cornwallis doll that puzzles me.

katy the mean old lady on June 6, 2011 at 12:57 PM

BradSchwartze on June 6, 2011 at 12:54 PM

Would that be the same “Big Bad Liberal Media” that has no credibility anymore?

Roy Rogers on June 6, 2011 at 12:57 PM

It’s that blow up Cornwallis doll that puzzles me.

katy the mean old lady on June 6, 2011 at 12:57 PM

Haha!

fossten on June 6, 2011 at 1:00 PM

The media campaign to destroy her candidacy will be into its 4th year in 2012, and it has worked. She won’t overcome it. Almost no one could. That’s the cold, hard reality. You don’t have to like it. Heck, I don’t like it. But it is what it is. SHE CAN’T WIN! Chances are, she won’t even win the Republican nomination. Deal with reality, or continue to live in a fantasy. The choice is yours of course, but she’s losing either way.

xblade on June 6, 2011 at 12:41 PM

And when we abandon Palin for the next person, and the media savages them…I guess will move on to the next person right? And the next, and the next… until the only “electable” candidate left is Romney.

Or…

We challenge their lies. We fight back. And we refuse to roll over and play dead and let the liars set the rules of engagement.

powerpro on June 6, 2011 at 1:00 PM

Palin’s critics would have us believe that she is the only person in America who never heard the story of Paul Revere riding on his horse shouting the British are coming, the British are coming.

Basilsbest on June 6, 2011 at 1:01 PM

xblade… you come across as either a coward or lazy. Or both.

This is a war. Any candidate we want WILL BE VILIFIED BY THE PRESS!

Palin, unlike the others, has been thoroughly tested and come out stronger. We know she can handle the gauntlet.

Why throw her away with either the futile dream that the media will leave other conservatives alone… or with the hope that an untried conservative can stand the flames of a media so vitriolic, that it would demagogue a murder spree in order to take out a political foe?

powerpro on June 6, 2011 at 1:02 PM

Guess it is better to be lucky than good.

JFS61 on June 6, 2011 at 1:03 PM

The media campaign to destroy her candidacy will be into its 4th year in 2012, and it has worked. She won’t overcome it. Almost no one could. That’s the cold, hard reality. You don’t have to like it. Heck, I don’t like it. But it is what it is. SHE CAN’T WIN! Chances are, she won’t even win the Republican nomination. Deal with reality, or continue to live in a fantasy. The choice is yours of course, but she’s losing either way.

xblade on June 6, 2011 at 12:41 PM

Self fulfilled prophecy…if you believe it, than you accept it. That is what the MSM has done to you, and apparently it was very easy.
Your “hard reality” is one that you have created, and the problem is, you actually believe that your belief is “hard reality”. People like you, who give up, who give in, who won’t fight, is why we have Obama…
Here is a cold hard reality, if you give up, you won’t win…and therefore you won’t win.
Reagan,Clinton, Bush, Obama, they all “couldn’t win”, every president elected for the first time “couldn’t win” by someone account.
She won’t win you, you have made that clear, but then every other conservative candidate that is attacked by the media won’t win either (in your mind)…why? Because you are weak minded and easily manipulated, and you are not a fighter…

right2bright on June 6, 2011 at 1:07 PM

Here is what she said:

He who warned, uh, the British that they weren’t going to be taking away our arms uh by ringing those bells and making sure as he’s riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that we were going to be secure and we were going to be free and we were going to be armed.

Take what you want from that word salad, but what I see is another clear example of her atrocious grammar and inability to complete a thought without getting lost in a linguistic labyrinth of her own construction. Her history is fine. Her communication ability … not so much.

MJBrutus on June 6, 2011 at 1:08 PM

Somebody alert that putrid sow Dee Dee Myers of the history “development” please.

John the Libertarian on June 6, 2011 at 1:08 PM

This…

“He who warned uh, the British that they weren’t gonna be takin’ away our arms, uh by ringing those bells, and um, makin’ sure as he’s riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that we were going to be sure and we were going to be free, and we were going to be armed.”

Tom_Shipley on June 6, 2011 at 10:49 AM

Do anything to stretch and bend straws to make the case she’s an idiot? So what did she say?

He who warned the British that they weren’t going to be taking away our arms by ringing those bells

Fact: he warned the Brits when captured that we were ready for them to come and try to take our guns.

AND

Wait for it now, she’s making a transition. As in how did he know we were ready for the Brits?

by making sure that as he’s riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that we were going to be secure

Fact: he made sure we were ready by spreading the word.

How often do people do a verbal shorthand and drop the subject from the predicate et al? For clarity, she could have said to alert the folks patriots to send

So what if she flubbed breaking down the esscene of PR to include a tidbit that 95% of the people didn’t know or only vaguely knew to a 15 sec soundbite. If she had a do over, she would reference the famous ride, then say “Did you know that, he was then captured by the Brits and basically he dared them to try and take our weapons.”

To boot, no one questions her use of “we” and “our”. Why is that? Maybe I shouldn’t have mentioned that because as you continue to flail, you’ll probably nitpick that as well. Giving the benefit of doubt is not your MO, rather to twist it for maximum effect.

While we mocked Obummer for saying 57 States, none of us tried to make the case that he really meant 57. But if it were Dubya, you’d be posting ad nauseum till the cows came home every night about what an idiot to think there were 57 States.

What a ship of fools.

AH_C on June 6, 2011 at 1:09 PM

Palin’s critics would have us believe that she is the only person in America who never heard the story of Paul Revere riding on his horse shouting the British are coming, the British are coming.

Basilsbest on June 6, 2011 at 1:01 PM

No, the critics say she stated that he was yelling, ringing bells, shooting guns, making cell calls, ordering pizza, writing the Declaration of Independence…they have gone off the deep edge of reality, and are making up stories about what she stated…

right2bright on June 6, 2011 at 1:09 PM

Her communication ability … not so much.

MJBrutus on June 6, 2011 at 1:08 PM

Out of context, many statements feel contrived, or not so “brilliant”…out of context is one way to try to win an argument, or make a point…but it doesn’t work on most of us. Nice try though…
I remember when someone said “take down that wall”, written doesn’t sound like much to me…

right2bright on June 6, 2011 at 1:13 PM

Take what you want from that word salad, but what I see is another clear example of her atrocious grammar and inability to complete a thought without getting lost in a linguistic labyrinth of her own construction. Her history is fine. Her communication ability … not so much.

MJBrutus on June 6, 2011 at 1:08 PM

Wow, I am so unsurprised that you would take this tack.

Mitch Daniels isn’t running. Get over it. You can take the day off.

fossten on June 6, 2011 at 1:14 PM

Mitch Daniels Sarah Palin isn’t running. Get over it. You can take the day off.

fossten on June 6, 2011 at 1:14 PM

FIFY

MJBrutus on June 6, 2011 at 1:16 PM

I remember when someone said “take down that wall”, written doesn’t sound like much to me…

right2bright on June 6, 2011 at 1:13 PM

NO! Because when Reagan told Gorbachev to ‘tear down this wall,’ he REALLY MEANT that Gorby HIMSELF was supposed to come to that spot and use his fingers and tear it down by hand. I know this because Reagan was stupid and that’s the only way he could have mean it because you’re a dumb Rethuglikkkan Palin loving ‘nista who loves Palin and rrrraaaawwwrrrrgrrrroowwwfffffyeeearrrrggghhhh

fossten on June 6, 2011 at 1:16 PM

FIFY

MJBrutus on June 6, 2011 at 1:16 PM

Got a link to her announcement? I have one to Daniels’ announcement.

fossten on June 6, 2011 at 1:17 PM

Tomorrow, Imus in the Morning
We’re back! and coming up Tuesday…
-Michael Graham, straight outta Boston, clarifies what acturally happened during Paul Revere’s ride there.

Micheal Graham “Anyone But Romney” WTKK, 96.9 FM, Boston, MA.

Dr Evil on June 6, 2011 at 1:18 PM

The media campaign to destroy her candidacy will be into its 4th year in 2012, and it has worked.

xblade on June 6, 2011 at 12:41 PM

Oddly enough, your quote comes on page SEVEN of this thread.

The media – *all of them* – are falling over themselves following around her bus tour – and she hasn’t announced yet whether she’s even a candidate or not.

Dude – there’s not doubt that they’re trying to destroy her candidacy, but they haven’t; they’ve strengthened it.

Midas on June 6, 2011 at 1:18 PM

AH_C on June 6, 2011 at 1:09 PM

Reading the quote, I could see where some might be confused.

Seeing the video put it into context.

It was a throw away question, she was surrounded and clearly distracted… and I could tell by how she spoke she was using verbal shorthand.

But then again…like my point from above… If folks want to argue that Palin thinks Revere could bend the laws of physics and do three things at once and be in three places at once…

…then by all means. Please keep harping on this most important topic!!

powerpro on June 6, 2011 at 1:18 PM

I was not serious in saying MSLSD should be illegal. I’m a pretty big First Amendment proponent. It’s just that these lies and distortions affect people’s opinions and those opinions have consequences at the polls. I’m praying that good does triumph over evil every Sunday at church, and praying that we have a country left. I don’t think I’m alone in my frustration with what the Progressive Socialists are doing to our country. Some days I’m downright depressed.

adamsmith on June 6, 2011 at 1:19 PM

Oh No Talk Radio Is Going To Expose The Liberal Media’s Ignorance.

Dr Evil on June 6, 2011 at 1:19 PM

I finally found the “gotcha type-of question” that Sarah Palin answered about Paul Revere:

What have you seen so far today and what are you going to take away from your visit?

YYZ on June 6, 2011 at 1:21 PM

Got a link to her announcement? I have one to Daniels’ announcement.

fossten on June 6, 2011 at 1:17 PM

So you must think that Howard Dean is running for the GOP nomination too. After all, you haven’t seen him announce he wasn’t, have you?

MJBrutus on June 6, 2011 at 1:22 PM

Then again, the Boston Herald is not known for its investigative journalism.

cornfedbubba on June 6, 2011 at 10:22 AM

Not true. They’ve done some fine investigative work, and one of their former investigative reporters, Maggie Mulvihill, is now co-head of the New England Center for Investigative Reporting at Boston University.

Del Dolemonte on June 6, 2011 at 1:24 PM

I’d put a sizable amount of money in escrow to bet that Dave has a screencap of Algore winning Florida as his computer monitor wallpaper.

fossten on June 6, 2011 at 12:38 PM

It’s that blow up Cornwallis doll that puzzles me.

katy the mean old lady on June 6, 2011 at 12:57 PM
——

Wait you guys forgot the Whitehouse on fire in 1814.

I should email it to you – the flames are SOOOOO high!

Dave Rywall on June 6, 2011 at 1:24 PM

I finally found the “gotcha type-of question” that Sarah Palin answered about Paul Revere:

What have you seen so far today and what are you going to take away from your visit?

YYZ on June 6, 2011 at 1:21 PM
——-

HOW DARE THEY ASK SUCH AN INAPPROPRIATE QUESTION

Dave Rywall on June 6, 2011 at 1:25 PM

fossten on June 6, 2011 at 1:16 PM

Of course, I missed that…great analogy.
Reagan was asking Gorb to come and tear down that wall personally (he did say Mr. Gorb)…So Reagan was a dolt in asking him to personally come and tear down that wall, and presumably by hand since he didn’t mention any tools.
You took by analogy of “out of context” and put it into context, excellent.
So what do you think Palin haters, was Reagan being stupid for asking Mr. Gorb to tear down that wall?

right2bright on June 6, 2011 at 1:25 PM

So you must think that Howard Dean is running for the GOP nomination too. After all, you haven’t seen him announce he wasn’t, have you?

MJBrutus on June 6, 2011 at 1:22 PM

Nice red herring coupled with a straw man. Why are you here again?

fossten on June 6, 2011 at 1:26 PM

I know I said I wasn’t going to visit this thread again, but I just received an email from someone about this topic and I went back and reviewed the CNN newscast again…thinking maybe I was being harsh or unreasonable. But this is what I heard, verbatim:

Palin: he, who warned, uh, the..the British that they weren’t going to be taking away our arms, uh, by ringing those bells and making sure as he was riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that, uh, we were gonna be secure and we were gonna be free and we were gonna be armed.

This makes sense to you guys?

Nope. Sorry, I stand by my original assessment. What she said does not make sense.

Oh, and she wasn’t signing autographs and shaking hands while speaking, as some have said. Here’s the video, see for yourself.

ramrants on June 6, 2011 at 1:26 PM

Wow, this thread is still going? Suddenly I’m picturing pink fuzzy drummer trolls with batteries shoved up their rears.

ElectricPhase on June 6, 2011 at 1:26 PM

Pal, your historical knowledge is so weak…1983 65% disapproval…worse than Sarah Palin…for much of his presidency his approval ratings were in the 40′s to 50′s, I think his average was about 53% approval…Late 1988 is where his approval’s started to climb above 55%…

right2bright on June 6, 2011 at 12:25 PM

“I note what you say about guiding our patient’s reading and taking care that he sees a good deal of his materialist friend. But are you not being a trifle naïf? It sounds as if you supposed that argument was the way to keep him out of the Enemy’s clutches. That might have been so if he had lived a few centuries earlier. At that time the humans still knew pretty well when a thing was proved and when it was not; and if it was proved they really believed it. They still connected thinking with doing and were prepared to alter their way of life as the result of a chain of reasoning. But what with the weekly press and other such weapons we have largely altered that. Your man has been accustomed, ever since he was a boy, to have a dozen incompatible philosophies dancing about together inside his head. He doesn’t think of doctrines as primarily “true” of “false”, but as “academic” or “practical”, “outworn” or “contemporary”, “conventional” or “ruthless”. Jargon, not argument, is your best ally in keeping him from the Church. Don’t waste time trying to make him think that materialism is true! Make him think it is strong, or stark, or courageous—that it is the philosophy of the future. That’s the sort of thing he cares about.

The trouble about argument is that it moves the whole struggle onto the Enemy’s own ground. He can argue too; whereas in really practical propaganda of the kind I am suggesting He has been shown for centuries to be greatly the inferior of Our Father Below. By the very act of arguing, you awake the patient’s reason; and once it is awake, who can foresee the result? Even if a particular train of thought can be twisted so as to end in our favour, you will find that you have been strengthening in your patient the fatal habit of attending to universal issues and withdrawing his attention from the stream of immediate sense experiences. Your business is to fix his attention on the stream. Teach him to call it “real life” and don’t let him ask what he means by ‘real’.”

Screwtape the Demon from THE SCREWTAPE LETTERS by C.S. Lewis

ebrown2 on June 6, 2011 at 1:27 PM

Wait you guys forgot the Whitehouse on fire in 1814.

I should email it to you – the flames are SOOOOO high!

Dave Rywall on June 6, 2011 at 1:24 PM

I smell bacon.

fossten on June 6, 2011 at 1:27 PM

fossten on June 6, 2011 at 1:26 PM

It’s called rudimentary logic and I’m not surprised to find it beyond you.

MJBrutus on June 6, 2011 at 1:28 PM

The left only knows lies and believe it to be the truth. You are never going to convince them with facts because the lie is more important.

William Amos on June 6, 2011 at 9:31 AM

The Left has lied so much at this point….

..THEY DON’T KNOW TRUTH.

PappyD61 on June 6, 2011 at 1:30 PM

Nice red herring coupled with a straw man. Why are you here again?

fossten on June 6, 2011 at 1:26 PM

Thanks for reminding me! I got herring in the fridge and I forgot!

Lanceman on June 6, 2011 at 1:31 PM

It’s called rudimentary logic and I’m not surprised to find it beyond you.

MJBrutus on June 6, 2011 at 1:28 PM

Show me your source where Howard Dean is considering whether or not to run for the GOP nomination, genius. Your evasive answer will confirm your lack of logical foundation.

fossten on June 6, 2011 at 1:31 PM

Wait you guys forgot the Whitehouse on fire in 1814.

I should email it to you – the flames are SOOOOO high!

Dave Rywall on June 6, 2011 at 1:24 PM

And you lost again. Care for a few choruses of Barrett’s Privateers?

katy the mean old lady on June 6, 2011 at 1:33 PM

MJBrutus on June 6, 2011 at 1:28 PM

You’re just butthurt because Governor Mitch “Pussywhip” Combover isn’t running and you have nothing else to do.

fossten on June 6, 2011 at 1:33 PM

Nope. Sorry, I stand by my original assessment. What she said does not make sense.

Oh, and she wasn’t signing autographs and shaking hands while speaking, as some have said. Here’s the video, see for yourself.

ramrants on June 6, 2011 at 1:26 PM

So what do you think about Reagan personally inviting Mr. Gorb to tear down this wall? Pretty strange don’t you think, asking a person to actually come down and use his hands to tear down the Berlin Wall?
Don’t you think Reagan could have been more clear…like saying “Mr. Gorb, would you pass a resolution to have some one come to Berlin with some heavy equipment, and allow them to take the wall down.”
Somehow, when making a statement, you have to expect your audience to fill in some blanks, to be able to discern, to have the intellect to understand what you are saying, without going into great detail…it’s a leap of faith that most of the American people are educated enough to understand what she meant…others, well let’s just say they are lacking a little something.

right2bright on June 6, 2011 at 1:33 PM

andrea mitchell rather bash sarah on this instead of touching the weiner tweets…

go figure….

cmsinaz on June 6, 2011 at 1:34 PM

Maybe the one good thing that MIGHT come out of this is that the liberals and the media may pause a little before they pounce on the next thing Sarah says that they want to blow out of porportion.

Maybe they won’t be so quick to label her stupid.

Because for the majority of the public who get their news in soundbites, they only remember the initial joke of what “mistakes” conservatives say and they never hear the media corrections that show the conservatives aren’t a bunch of dummies.

Elisa on June 6, 2011 at 1:38 PM

Don’t you think Reagan could have been more clear…like saying “Mr. Gorb, would you pass a resolution to have some one come to Berlin with some heavy equipment, and allow them to take the wall down.”

right2bright on June 6, 2011 at 1:33 PM

Um, no. Ramrants would expect Reagan to say, “Mr. Gorbachev, would you please, and by please I am asking as a favor, not asking you to please me, not that there’s anything wrong with that if you were a woman, although not me because I’m married, not that if I wasn’t married I would want a Russian woman anyway, would you please send a construction crew with a wrecking ball to remove particles from this wall, and by this wall I mean the entire Berlin wall, not just this segment of it, until they are gone, and by gone I mean enough particles have been removed so that people, and by people I mean normal sized humanoids, and by normal I mean average height, not that there’s anything wrong with tall or short people, I’m not a bigot, may step over the remains of the wall without impedance, and by impedance I mean pieces of the wall that may have been left by your inept construction crew, or any military vehicles or any soldiers bearing weapons, and by weapons I mean guns, or knives, or billy clubs. Thank you. And by thank you I mean I am grateful.”

fossten on June 6, 2011 at 1:38 PM

fossten on June 6, 2011 at 1:38 PM

See? You don’t know what straw men and red herrings are. You just provided us with text book examples. Bravo!

MJBrutus on June 6, 2011 at 1:41 PM

ramrants on June 6, 2011 at 1:26 PM

Couldn’t stay away, eh?

Sorry you think that pointing out the failings of your logic by using your own words as a case study is “jackassery”. *shrug*

Midas on June 6, 2011 at 1:42 PM

Dave Rywall on June 6, 2011 at 1:24 PM

I smell backbacon. And also John Labatt’s Extra Stock Malt Liquor.

fossten on June 6, 2011 at 1:27 PM

Fixed.

Del Dolemonte on June 6, 2011 at 1:42 PM

There are some cool photos coming out of Sarah Palin and our founding documents.

Dr Evil on June 6, 2011 at 1:47 PM

It’s that blow up Cornwallis doll that puzzles me.

katy the mean old lady on June 6, 2011 at 12:57 PM

Whoa! “You possess a mind not merely twisted, but actually sprained.” — Douglas Adams (I think?)

:-)

Mary in LA on June 6, 2011 at 1:48 PM

FACT: IF unemployment was 6.1 and headed south instead of 9.1 Governor Palin could have the erudition of Bill Buckley, Martin Luther king and Churchill and it would not help.

Come to think of it, I am not so sure it would help her with our hateful media with the way things are.

See the attention her record as governor got.

See the attention The One’s exquisite legislative career got.

See a glaring distortion ending our democracy.

IlikedAUH2O on June 6, 2011 at 1:49 PM

Nope. Sorry, I stand by my original assessment. What she said does not make sense.

Oh, and she wasn’t signing autographs and shaking hands while speaking, as some have said. Here’s the video, see for yourself.

ramrants on June 6, 2011 at 1:26 PM

I’ve seen the video many times now, too. I don’t recall anyone saying she was shaking hands, but she is certainly being surrounded and distracted. Nevertheless, I understood what she said, as have many others here from what I have read. So why don’t you?

littleguy on June 6, 2011 at 1:50 PM

smell backbacon. And also John Labatt’s Extra Stock Malt Liquor.

fossten on June 6, 2011 at 1:27 PM
Fixed.

Del Dolemonte on June 6, 2011 at 1:42 PMThis is more Dave’s speed

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newfoundland_Screech

katy the mean old lady on June 6, 2011 at 1:50 PM

LOL, Paul Revere has not gotten this much press since the 1700s.

Proof positive that Palin’s objectives with the tour has been met.

Norwegian on June 6, 2011 at 1:51 PM

LOL, Paul Revere has not gotten this much press since the 1700s.

Proof positive that Palin’s objectives with the tour has been met.

Norwegian on June 6, 2011 at 1:51 PM

Yep she plays the Media like a fiddle – they don’t disappoint.

Dr Evil on June 6, 2011 at 1:54 PM

LOL, Paul Revere has not gotten this much press since the 1700s.

Proof positive that Palin’s objectives with the tour has been met.

Norwegian on June 6, 2011 at 1:51 PM

For sure. Silver with the Revere mark will probably skyrocket in value now! At least, for those folks who have managed to determine what she meant by the word, “he”.

littleguy on June 6, 2011 at 1:55 PM

ha ha Fox can’t even tell the difference between Palin and Fey

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/oops-fox-news-uses-tina-fey-graphic-in-sarah-palin-story/

Dave Rywall on June 6, 2011 at 1:57 PM

The media campaign to destroy her candidacy will be into its 4th year in 2012, and it has worked. She won’t overcome it. Almost no one could. That’s the cold, hard reality. You don’t have to like it. Heck, I don’t like it. But it is what it is. SHE CAN’T WIN! Chances are, she won’t even win the Republican nomination. Deal with reality, or continue to live in a fantasy. The choice is yours of course, but she’s losing either way.

xblade on June 6, 2011 at 12:41 PM

Man, xblade, she owns a place in your head. Go buy a Wendy’s chocolate frosty, find a park bench and enjoy the sunshine. You’ll feel better. :)

itsspideyman on June 6, 2011 at 1:57 PM

Palin is irrelevant and no one cares what she says.

/comment no. 671

saint kansas on June 6, 2011 at 1:59 PM

Guess what? I guarantee there are tons of people today who know more about Paul Revere’s ride than they did last Thursday.

NoNails on June 6, 2011 at 9:49 AM

Yes, and I’m one of them. I thought I was fairly history-savvy, but I didn’t know that the Redcoats had actually captured Paul Revere at one point during his famous ride. Thank you, Professor Palin, for the history lesson! :-)

Mary in LA on June 6, 2011 at 2:04 PM

Palin is irrelevant and no one cares what she says.

/comment no. 671

saint kansas on June 6, 2011 at 1:59 PM
——
Charlie Sheen
Gaga
etc
etc

lots of comments

nobody cares what they say

so what’s your point

Dave Rywall on June 6, 2011 at 2:05 PM

nobody cares what they say

so what’s your point

Dave Rywall on June 6, 2011 at 2:05 PM

Look at the top of your head.

littleguy on June 6, 2011 at 2:09 PM

Dr Evil on June 6, 2011 at 1:53 PM

Thanks for that, so sweet! Was this from the tour?

txmomof6 on June 6, 2011 at 2:10 PM

From the Headlines, Washington Post:Conservative women enthusiastic about Bachmann, Palin

Conservative Women Aren’t the Only Ones. Conservative Men – Like Palin and Bachmann.

Dr Evil on June 6, 2011 at 2:11 PM

Palin probably misspoke and got it right by accident. Probably.

But then again, is it possible she’s setting a trap for the liberal media? Is it possible that she had this fact in her pocket, a fact which countered the conventional wisdom, and she used it as boob bait for liberals to pounce on, only to show them to be fools later?

I wonder if Palin is a slyer fox than we imagined.

Tantor on June 6, 2011 at 2:11 PM

Thanks for that, so sweet! Was this from the tour?

txmomof6 on June 6, 2011 at 2:10 PM

It was from around his 3rd birthday in April. There are some of him giggling I was looking at, he’s a happy little toddler. God Bless Him.

Dr Evil on June 6, 2011 at 2:13 PM

I wonder if Palin is a slyer fox than we imagined.

Tantor on June 6, 2011 at 2:11 PM

If that is her strategy, it’s not working very well. I think that most of the people who have heard the scorn she reaped from it have not heard that she really got it right, historically.

MJBrutus on June 6, 2011 at 2:16 PM

I wonder if Palin is a slyer fox than we imagined.

Tantor on June 6, 2011 at 2:11 PM

That’s such an untold part of the Paul Revere story that I doubt it came up by accident. She’s well aware of the media and liberal tendency to leap before they look.

darwin on June 6, 2011 at 2:17 PM

I know more about your history than 50% of your population. And that’s truly pathetic.

Dave Rywall on June 6, 2011 at 9:56 AM

53% obviously don’t remember Jimmy Carter. Wonder who they voted for, and with whom you share most views?

This time they have voted themselves into a large scale “those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat it” lesson.

Anyway, back on topic – obviously Palin knows our history better than you do and better than most lib pundits and journalists.

RDuke on June 6, 2011 at 2:19 PM

Sarah Palin, with son Trig, holding a sign commemorating the first Tea Party which was held in Boston in the year 1773

Trig is clapping in this photo. I think it’s from the Tea Party Tour last October in Phoenix Arizona . I don’t know if that is the area the Palins bought their new house?

Dr Evil on June 6, 2011 at 2:19 PM

Dr Evil on June 6, 2011 at 2:19 PM

I think she bought near Scottsdale.

darwin on June 6, 2011 at 2:20 PM

If that is her strategy, it’s not working very well. I think that most of the people who have heard the scorn she reaped from it have not heard that she really got it right, historically.

MJBrutus on June 6, 2011 at 2:16 PM

You haven’t heard of Fox News? Or Talk Radio? And it’s all over the internet – because that’s how the internet works.

Dr Evil on June 6, 2011 at 2:24 PM

Dave Rywall on June 6, 2011 at 2:05 PM

Oh, the year was 1778, HOW I WISH I WAS IN SHERBROOKE NOW!
A letter of marque come from the king,
To the scummiest vessel I’d ever seen,
God damn them all!
I was told we’d cruise the seas for American gold
We’d fire no guns-shed no tears
Now I’m a broken man on a Halifax pier
The last of Barrett’s Privateers.

More lyrics: http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/s/stan_rogers/#share

katy the mean old lady on June 6, 2011 at 2:26 PM

There are some more photos on Sarah Palin Information Blog, part of Sarah Palin Web Brigade. Is the word out that Palin was correct about Revere. I suspect the words been passed along LOL! There are so many Palin sites. I know there used to be Read My Lip Stick Brigade kind of Palin blog/website center. But it seems there are new ones popping up.

Dr Evil on June 6, 2011 at 2:27 PM

You haven’t heard of Fox News? Or Talk Radio? And it’s all over the internet – because that’s how the internet works.
Dr Evil on June 6, 2011 at 2:24 PM

I just visited Yahoo and they had no obvious mention that she was right.

TheQuestion on June 6, 2011 at 2:30 PM

I just visited Yahoo and they had no obvious mention that she was right.

TheQuestion on June 6, 2011 at 2:30 PM

Go figure.

katy the mean old lady on June 6, 2011 at 2:33 PM

Sarah Palin’s bus trip was obviously more successful than anybody could have imagined based on how many of us are now debating historical details about Paul Revere.

If you want to have some fun with liberals today, teach them some history by showing them Paul Revere’s own description of his famous ride:

Paul Revere’s deposition, fair copy, circa 1775
http://www.masshist.org/database/doc-viewer.php?item_id=98

The more people who know about the primary source material available on the Massachusetts Historical Society web site, the better!

wren on June 6, 2011 at 2:34 PM

As I’ve said here before, I love the woman but it’s pretty clear she became flustered for whatever reason and botched this.

I understand all the spin but it’s a bit silly.

RedNewEnglander on June 6, 2011 at 2:37 PM

I understand all the spin but it’s a bit silly.

RedNewEnglander on June 6, 2011 at 2:37 PM

Historians agree: Palin was right about Revere

In case you missed the title of this post. Palin was right so what spin are you referring to?

Dr Evil on June 6, 2011 at 2:40 PM

MJBrutus on June 6, 2011 at 2:16 PM

But she wasn’t talking to you…she was talking to people with some intellect.
Tell me, do you think Reagan was foolish for asking Mr. Gorb to come and personally tear down the Berlin Wall?
You do know that Lincoln was several months off when he said 4 score and 7 years ago, actually it was a little less than 7 years, only 6 years and 8 months…that’s the type of argument you guys are engaged in.

right2bright on June 6, 2011 at 2:42 PM

I understand all the spin but it’s a bit silly.

RedNewEnglander on June 6, 2011 at 2:37 PM

Even though the historian said she was correct, you say she was not?

right2bright on June 6, 2011 at 2:43 PM

PUMAS For Palin

Dr Evil on June 6, 2011 at 2:46 PM

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