Quotes of the day

posted at 10:53 pm on June 1, 2011 by Allahpundit

“As the dozens of members of the House Republican Conference left the White House where they’d spoken with President Obama about the deficit and job creation, Rep. Phil Gingrey, R-Ga., had a one-word review of the mood in the meeting.

‘Frosty is the word,’ Gingrey said…

“The president added that he is all for a reduction of demagoguery, an issue he understands since he is the ‘job killing, death panel, probably-wasn’t-born-here president.’…

“Ryan told the president that he is making a sincere attempt to address a problem, and he challenged the president: “Mr. President, the demagoguery only stops if the Leaders stop it.”

“His fellow House Republicans gave him a standing ovation.”

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“Ryan told reporters outside the White House that he ‘simply explained what our plan is’ to Obama during a meeting in the East Room with the House GOP – after Democrats and Obama’s nascent presidential campaign seized on the Medicare plan as a central strategy for 2012.

“‘It’s been mis-described by the president and others,’ Ryan said. He added that he wanted to clarify his position with Obama ‘so that in the future, he won’t mischaracterize it.’

“Rep. Candice Miller, a Michigan Republican who is one of the more moderate voices in an increasingly conservative conference, said Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) and others laid down an important marker – urging the president to produce his own detailed budget cutting plan to counter Ryan’s…

“Obama’s response, according to Miller: ‘He said that anything I propose would have no change of being approved by your conference.’”

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“A freshman GOP lawmaker rejected an invitation to the White House on Wednesday, saying he didn’t want to be ‘lectured’ by President Obama.

“‘I have respectfully declined the president’s invitation to the White House today,’ Rep. Jeff Landry (La.) said in a statement. ‘I don’t intend to spend my morning being lectured to by a president whose failed policies have put our children and grandchildren in a huge burden of debt.’…

“‘Until the president produces a responsible deficit reduction plan, I’m not going to the White House to negotiate with myself. Our conference has put out for months where we would start the process,’ Landry continued.”

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“This ‘Party of No’ rhetoric was parroted by nearly every liberal writer. It is less common today, now that the tables have turned. The new Republican House majority has passed a serious proposal to reform the broken entitlement system and avert national insolvency. Not only has Reid refused to work with the GOP on a budget, but he said it would be ‘foolish’ for Democrats to release one of their own. And last Wednesday, Senate Democrats gave new meaning to the label the ‘Party of No’ when they held a series of four budget votes. Not a single Democrat voted for any budget proposal, including Obama’s own plan, which was rejected by a unanimous 97-to-0 vote.

“Democrats have settled on a political strategy of isolating and attacking the Ryan plan instead of offering constructive solutions that could leave them open to attack. If history is any guide, this is a winning election strategy. But it is not necessarily responsible governance.”

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“‘It’s been mis-described by the president and others,’ Ryan said. He added that he wanted to clarify his position with Obama ‘so that in the future, he won’t mischaracterize it.’…

I think in part, TOTUS is to be blamed here.

Electrongod on June 1, 2011 at 10:56 PM

“Democrats have settled on a political strategy of isolating and attacking the Ryan plan instead of offering constructive solutions that could leave them open to attack.

Like dealing with a 5 Y/O at a candy store.

Electrongod on June 1, 2011 at 10:58 PM

“‘I have respectfully declined the president’s invitation to the White House today,’ Rep. Jeff Landry (La.) said in a statement. ‘I don’t intend to spend my morning being lectured to by a president whose failed policies have put our children and grandchildren in a huge burden of debt.’…

“‘Until the president produces a responsible deficit reduction plan, I’m not going to the White House to negotiate with myself. Our conference has put out for months where we would start the process,’ Landry continued.”

See, this is how a GOP House rep shows balls…

SuperCool on June 1, 2011 at 10:59 PM

“The president added that he is all for a reduction of demagoguery, an issue he understands since he is the ‘job killing, death panel, probably-wasn’t-born-here president.’…

Well, actually just the first two. What a whiner we have for president.

2012 can’t come soon enough!

chief on June 1, 2011 at 11:00 PM

Democrats Alinskyites have settled on a political strategy of isolating and attacking the Ryan plan

FIFY

Bruno Strozek on June 1, 2011 at 11:00 PM

Keep going GOP – you are getting under his skin

gophergirl on June 1, 2011 at 11:01 PM

“Ryan told the president that he is making a sincere attempt to address a problem, and he challenged the president: “Mr. President, the demagoguery only stops if the Leaders stop it.”

ouch, Ryan pulls no punches

commodore on June 1, 2011 at 11:02 PM

“A freshman GOP lawmaker rejected an invitation to the White House on Wednesday, saying he didn’t want to be ‘lectured’ by President Obama.
“‘I have respectfully declined the president’s invitation to the White House today,’ Rep. Jeff Landry (La.) said in a statement. ‘I don’t intend to spend my morning being lectured to by a president whose failed policies have put our children and grandchildren in a huge burden of debt.’…
“‘Until the president produces a responsible deficit reduction plan, I’m not going to the White House to negotiate with myself. Our conference has put out for months where we would start the process,’ Landry continued.”

Yes, this. Much, much, much, much more of this.

SouthernGent on June 1, 2011 at 11:02 PM

There is really only one question to ask Obama about his mis characterization of Ryan’s budget proposal: is he simply too stupid to understand the bill or is he lying about it on purpose?

Jaibones on June 1, 2011 at 11:03 PM

“Ryan told the president that he is making a sincere attempt to address a problem, and he challenged the president: “Mr. President, the demagoguery only stops if the Leaders stop it.”

“His fellow House Republicans gave him a standing ovation.”

Nice if this would happen in front of cameras. Mitten would have rang his door-bell and run away – I mean, sent pizza.

Marcus on June 1, 2011 at 11:03 PM

The entire Democrat party has adopted the “Leading from behind” strategy. Be careful, Dems, or you will be “Losing from behind” in 2012.

NickDeringer on June 1, 2011 at 11:03 PM

“Ryan told the president that he is making a sincere attempt to address a problem, and he challenged the president: “Mr. President, the demagoguery only stops if the Leaders stop it.”

“His fellow House Republicans gave him a standing ovation.”

Good for Ryan. Tapper also mentions a very specific and pointed call by Ryan on BHO’s demagoguery.

The president said in that speech that Republicans don’t care about kids with autism and other disabilities, Ryan said.

Wish I could have been there.

INC on June 1, 2011 at 11:04 PM

My message to Paul Ryan, quoting Vaclav Havel:

“The real test of a man is not when he plays the role that he wants for himself, but when he plays the role destiny has for him.”

Keep on leading. We will follow.

publiuspen on June 1, 2011 at 11:05 PM

This is Alice in Wonderland. I wonder what Obama says. I wonder what the Republicans say. This isn’t brain surgery. We have to stop borrowing so much damn money!

Paul-Cincy on June 1, 2011 at 11:05 PM

The only thing sacred to the progressives is their reelections.

csdeven on June 1, 2011 at 11:05 PM

Memo to CNN: Congressman Ryan is from Wisconsin, not Minnesota.

SouthernGent on June 1, 2011 at 11:06 PM

Republicans can say with some certitude that the President is a Weiner.

Roy Rogers on June 1, 2011 at 11:07 PM

It’s obvious that only the Republicans are the adults and leaders in addressing both the debt/deficit and the 2012 budget.

onlineanalyst on June 1, 2011 at 11:08 PM

We so often call out lawmakers when they do wrong. Call or fax a thank you to Paul Ryan for his leadership, for doing right:

Phone: (202) 225-3031
Fax: (202) 225-3393

publiuspen on June 1, 2011 at 11:08 PM

urging the president to produce his own detailed budget cutting plan to counter Ryan’s…

“Obama’s response, according to Miller: ‘He said that anything I propose would have no change of being approved by your conference.’”

True Leadership: I won’t actually put my ideas down on paper for the public to judge because you guys would just vote it down. Instead, I’ll just demagogue your plan so I can get re-elected.

By the way, isn’t that the exact opposite of what Ryan and the House Republicans did. They knew their plan was going nowhere in the Senate and they knew it would get demagogued, but they passed it anyways so that Americans would know where they stand. That is leadership.

JohnInCA on June 1, 2011 at 11:09 PM

The president said in that speech that Republicans don’t care about kids with autism and other disabilities, Ryan said.

Wish I could have been there.

INC on June 1, 2011 at 11:04 PM

The GOP doesn’t want people with disabilities to be forever dependent of big government
Sounds good to me.

annoyinglittletwerp on June 1, 2011 at 11:10 PM

“The president added that he is all for a reduction of demagoguery, an issue he understands since he is the ‘job killing, death panel, probably-wasn’t-born-here president.’…

Demagoguery is all that BHO knows. The fact that he used those words indicates that this is the direction he and his party intend to use.

onlineanalyst on June 1, 2011 at 11:10 PM

Alinskyites have settled on a political strategy of isolating and attacking the Ryan plan. FIFY.
Bruno Strozek on June 1, 2011 at 11:00 PM.

BINGO! Can the Repubs please unite behind Ryan and push his plan aggressively? He is RIGHT!

indypat on June 1, 2011 at 11:12 PM

TIP

Chinese Hack Google!

Nearly Nobody on June 1, 2011 at 11:12 PM

The Republicans will take back the White House if they focus on one thing: THE ECONOMY. It should be all economy all the time. Let me help:

Yastrow: “We Are on the Verge of a Great, Great Depression” .

Note to Obama: It is not demagoguery if it is the truth.

Mutnodjmet on June 1, 2011 at 11:14 PM

“The president added that he is all for a reduction of demagoguery, an issue he understands since he is the ‘job killing, death panel, probably-wasn’t-born-here president.’

Now I’m sensing a little fear here. He’s trotting out the victim card when it is the US that is the victim, unless you are a looter.

AshleyTKing on June 1, 2011 at 11:15 PM

When will we ever get to the point where we can actually hear one of our so-called “Leaders” just say something real like “The guy’s lying about my idea! He’s looking right at you with a perfectly straight face and lying his @ss off.” Why all of the linguistic acrobatics and contortions like “he’s mis-describing my proposal.”?
I’ve concluded that these aren’t real people at all. They’re soap opera actors playing a role some neurotic handed them between commercials. In fact, I think this whole government thing is a cheesy soap opera made up by the same bunch that filmed the fake moon landing. Yeah, that’s the ticket!

Lew on June 1, 2011 at 11:15 PM

hey, who’s up for an alligator infested moat on the boarder while siting in the back seat with a mop in your hands…acting stupidly?

Electrongod on June 1, 2011 at 11:16 PM

See, this is how a GOP House rep shows balls…

SuperCool on June 1, 2011 at 10:59 PM

couldn’t agree more…

unseen on June 1, 2011 at 11:19 PM

hey, who’s up for an alligator infested moat on the boarder while siting in the back seat with a mop in your hands…acting stupidly?

Electrongod on June 1, 2011 at 11:16 PM

as long as the car is going in reverse I’m in for a road trip

unseen on June 1, 2011 at 11:20 PM

In fact, I think this whole government thing is a cheesy soap opera made up by the same bunch that filmed the fake moon landing. Yeah, that’s the ticket!

Lew on June 1, 2011 at 11:15 PM

you had me until you said fake moon landing.

unseen on June 1, 2011 at 11:21 PM

the GOp should have shown up with pitchforks and torches.

unseen on June 1, 2011 at 11:22 PM

‘I don’t intend to spend my morning being lectured to by a president whose failed policies have put our children and grandchildren in a huge burden of debt.’…

“‘Until the president produces a responsible deficit reduction plan, I’m not going to the White House to negotiate with myself. Our conference has put out for months where we would start the process,’ Landry continued.”

THIS…!

Seven Percent Solution on June 1, 2011 at 11:22 PM

Yastrow: “We Are on the Verge of a Great, Great Depression” .

Note to Obama: It is not demagoguery if it is the truth.

Mutnodjmet on June 1, 2011 at 11:14 PM

And Obama will blame the GOp for cutting that $300 million in spending….bank on it.

unseen on June 1, 2011 at 11:23 PM

The photo of Obama listening to Boehner – was he glaring and blinking as he did with Bibi? The clenched fist on chin shot seemed to suggest so.

Connie on June 1, 2011 at 11:23 PM

Ryan is the grown up in the room. Obama is a spiteful little bitch.

lonestar1 on June 1, 2011 at 11:28 PM

PBHO is just biding his time until 2012, he isn’t going to do jack squat until then.

Bishop on June 1, 2011 at 11:29 PM

Got to like Paul Ryan!..:)

Dire Straits on June 1, 2011 at 11:35 PM

“Obama’s response, according to Miller: ‘He said that anything I propose would have no change of being approved by your conference.’”

Then by all means, just take your ball and go home. This is what passes for leadership nowadays. Oh well, Presidentin’ is hard, I guess.

XWing5 on June 1, 2011 at 11:37 PM

Sorry Ryan, I haven’t drank the GOP Kool-Aid just yet.

“Ryan told the president that he is making a sincere attempt to address a problem, and he challenged the president: “Mr. President, the demagoguery only stops if the Leaders stop it.”

“His fellow House Republicans gave him a standing ovation.”

Establishment hack, why won’t you answer to real conservatives about your plan? I have serious issues with you leaving the door wide open for future socialist regimes in your plan.

I have issues with your spending and priorities in your plan.

If your plan does pass, and it wont, I guarantee it, you will ensure the USA becomes the USSA for good.

F-U Ryan, F-U GOP.

MadDogF on June 1, 2011 at 11:37 PM

Landry (La) also had this to say in The Hill article:

Landry also criticized Obama for neglecting to meet with the Louisiana delegation about a drilling moratorium off the Gulf of Mexico.

“The President has done nothing, just like he has for the people of the Gulf Coast,” Landry said.

“For months, the Louisiana delegation has sent the president numerous requests to meet with him or his chief of staff concerning the de facto moratorium issued in the Gulf of Mexico, a de facto moratorium that has driven gas prices up and now threatens to derail economic recovery; the president hasn’t even had the courtesy to write us a note back.”

Landry said the meeting was just “political grandstanding” on Obama’s part.

“I refuse to partake in his political grandstanding that will ultimately do nothing for debt reduction and job creation,” Landry said.

Landry effectively identifies O’s modus operandi.

onlineanalyst on June 1, 2011 at 11:38 PM

“Democrats have settled on a political strategy of isolating and attacking the Ryan plan instead of offering constructive solutions that could leave them open to attack. If history is any guide, this is a winning election strategy. But it is not necessarily responsible governance.”

RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.)
Alinsky Rules for Radicals

RULE 10: “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other
side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog.

Call them out, articulate exactly what the libs are doing, make sure they own it, eat it whole.

Then:

RULE 4: “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000
letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules. (This is a serious rule. The
besieged entity’s very credibility and reputation is at stake, because if activists catch it lying or not living up to its
commitments, they can continue to chip away at the damage.)

Speakup on June 1, 2011 at 11:39 PM

Get a grip, MadDogF. You cannot just wave a magic wand and disappear a program that has in place for decades.

onlineanalyst on June 1, 2011 at 11:45 PM

Lew on June 1, 2011 at 11:15 PM

You had me until the fake moon landing. You must be Lew Rockwell.

AshleyTKing on June 1, 2011 at 11:45 PM

PBHO is just biding his time until 2012, he isn’t going to do jack squat until then.

Bishop on June 1, 2011 at 11:29 PM

You’ve got that right, since he has the lsm looking out for him.

Mirimichi on June 1, 2011 at 11:46 PM

TIP

Chinese Hack Google!

Nearly Nobody on June 1, 2011 at 11:12 PM

You were warned about this in the Grand Rapids video thread. Use the freakin’ tips@hotair.com email

SouthernGent on June 1, 2011 at 11:48 PM

The collapse is coming before Election Day.

For Progressives THIS is their moment. They must spark unrest so as to get the “Fundamental Transformation” they seek.

Watch and see.

PappyD61 on June 1, 2011 at 11:50 PM

I think the Reisman Plan can work. Scroll to “How to Eliminate Medicare and Social Security.”

AshleyTKing on June 1, 2011 at 11:51 PM

Get a grip, MadDogF. You cannot just wave a magic wand and disappear a program that has in place for decades.

onlineanalyst on June 1, 2011 at 11:45 PM

I’m not fond of f-bombs but he is MadDog, and the programs are ponzi schemes that will go away. It is just a matter of whether we do it nicely or not.

AshleyTKing on June 1, 2011 at 11:56 PM

Weiner Update

Update: If The Weiner Don’t Fit, You Must Acquit

Nearly Nobody on June 2, 2011 at 12:01 AM

The Demagogue in Chief lectures on demagoguery?

Impertinence is indignant.

Schadenfreude on June 2, 2011 at 12:12 AM

You had me until the fake moon landing. You must be Lew Rockwell.

AshleyTKing on June 1, 2011 at 11:45 PM

No idea who Lew Rockwell is but it ain’t me. As far as the “fake moon landing” is concerned, I’m not sure exactly why I lost you with that one. Unless you really do think it was faked and then I guess you do have a problem.
My point was that there’s beginning to be a sort of creepy unreal quality to all this Washington drama that we get dumped over us every day. It’s almost as if the Beltway crowd has completely left the same planet as the rest of us, and all we’re seeing is a televised fantasy beamed at us from some sound stage on Mars or something. Can we really believe that our country is plummeting toward a financial canyon ala Thelma & Louise, and all these aliens on our TV screens can do is fight over who gets the blame when we go screaming over the edge….as if anyone were going to survive the sudden stop at the bottom!
Maybe this is all drug induced? Damn those One-a-Day vitamins, I knew there was something funny in there!

Lew on June 2, 2011 at 12:14 AM

Lew on June 2, 2011 at 12:14 AM

My bad. Unreality for sure.

AshleyTKing on June 2, 2011 at 12:17 AM

More evidence that our ‘president’ is an ignorant fool: Obama Lectures Republicans During White House Meeting Why He’s Better Than Ronald Reagan

I believe that because of his attendance at school in Indonesia and a touchy-feely basket-weaving liberal school in Hawaii, there are huge gaps in little Bammie’s education in basics like history, arithmetic and science. It shows.

slickwillie2001 on June 2, 2011 at 12:22 AM

“Obama’s response, according to Miller: ‘He said that anything I propose would have no change of being approved by your conference.’”

He’s such an f’ing child. “I won’t get what I won’t, so I’m just going to sit here and shout ‘NO NO NO!’”

strictnein on June 2, 2011 at 12:30 AM

“Ryan told the president that he is making a sincere attempt to address a problem, and he challenged the president: “Mr. President, the demagoguery only stops if the Leaders stop it.”

“His fellow House Republicans gave him a standing ovation.”

Well somebody does have a backbone in the GOP besides Palin……good to see.

Baxter Greene on June 2, 2011 at 12:37 AM

“I won’t get what I won’t want

strictnein on June 2, 2011 at 12:39 AM

If history is any guide, this is a winning election strategy. But it is not necessarily responsible governance.”

No way this is a winning strategy this time.
The electorate is much better informed and information spreads much faster than in the past.

If the democrats want to double down on stupid and offer no solutions combined with their failed policies…….then this would be a huge gift to the GOP.

Baxter Greene on June 2, 2011 at 12:42 AM

More evidence that our ‘president’ is an ignorant fool: Obama Lectures Republicans During White House Meeting Why He’s Better Than Ronald Reagan

slickwillie2001 on June 2, 2011 at 12:22 AM


ECONOMIC ‘HORROR’ AS DATA PLUNGES

Dow tumbles 280 points…
Private Sector Jobs Grew By Only 38,000 in May…
Planned Layoffs Up…
Manufacturing Slows…

“US house prices have fallen by more than 5 percent year on year, pending home sales have collapsed and existing home sales disappointed, the trend of improving jobless claims has arrested, first quarter GDP wasn’t revised upwards by the 0.4 percent forecast, durables goods orders shrank, manufacturing surveys from Philadelphia Fed, Richmond Fed and Chicago Fed were all very disappointing.”

“And that’s just in the last week and a bit,” said Riddell.


Wall Street Baffled by Slowing Economy, Low Yields: Trader

“What we’ve got right now is almost near panic going on with money managers and people who are responsible for money,” he said.


“We’re on the verge of a great, great depression. The [Federal Reserve] knows it.


…energy prices at an all time high…..
……….food prices at all time highs……
…………….GDP dragging at a little over 1%
……………….unemployment at all time highs
…………………..debt and deficits at all time highs
………………………Foreign policy is a mess
…………………………..launching wars without Congressional approval against oil rich countries that didn’t attack us and posed no imminent threat
………..people on food stamps at an all time high
…………….Government spending at all time highs
………………….so many promises broken

Yea right…much better than Reagan….
Obama’s AWESOME!!!!!

Baxter Greene on June 2, 2011 at 12:52 AM

Dump Ryan and win in 2012.

faraway on June 2, 2011 at 12:53 AM

I don’t know how informed voters are…and that’s what the Left/Dims bank on.

I just watched a large chunk of House hearings on Yucca Mountain. A total bipartisan anger at barry and chu. Turns out (and no, Diane Sawyer isn’t going to tell you this) that the DoE abandonment of Yucca was..well, let’s just say Extra-Legal. Congress holds the key to Yucca and Obama/Chu just shut it down…and it was done so fast that it will take years to re-start..if that is even possible

So, underneath the smiley face of pro-nuke…barry and the boys have sabotaged the one permanent waste disposal center in the US…the one that the ratepayers and tax payer have been (and continue) to spend their money on.

Oh, and btw, the locals are fine with it…no NIMBY here. I get the feeling that in many instances barry just doesn’t like those other branches of government too much…they slow him down

r keller on June 2, 2011 at 1:02 AM

Oh, and btw, the locals are fine with it…no NIMBY here.

that’s vague…I mean the locals are fine with the nuke waste being stored in Yucca. They are against barry.

r keller on June 2, 2011 at 1:05 AM

Weiner’s wiener gets more comments than the land going down a cliff.

There’s no hope for U.S. America, and thus none for the world.

Schadenfreude on June 2, 2011 at 1:08 AM

“Democrats have settled on a political strategy of isolating and attacking the Ryan plan instead of offering constructive solutions that could leave them open to attack. If history is any guide, this is a winning election strategy. But it is not necessarily responsible governance.”

Politicians are pigs and voters appear to be even bigger ones…all at the trough. May both starve…soon enough.

Oh, and sincere apologies to the good real pigs.

Schadenfreude on June 2, 2011 at 1:11 AM

if history is any guide, this is a winning election strategy. But it is not necessarily responsible governance.

This is a stupid miscalculation. You can only do nothing on new business. You can’t do nothing on required business like making a budget. This is the most basic logic that even less informed voters will see.

Resolute on June 2, 2011 at 1:20 AM

There’s no hope for U.S. America, and thus none for the world.

Schadenfreude on June 2, 2011 at 1:08 AM

Politicians are pigs and voters appear to be even bigger ones…all at the trough. May both starve…soon enough.

Oh, and sincere apologies to the good real pigs.

Schadenfreude on June 2, 2011 at 1:11 AM

dude, snap out of it…

equanimous on June 2, 2011 at 1:25 AM

“The president added that he is all for a reduction of demagoguery, an issue he understands since he is the ‘job killing, death panel, probably-wasn’t-born-here president.’…

Was he drinking a slurpy during the meeting?

pedestrian on June 2, 2011 at 4:02 AM

No redeye viewers tonight?

OmahaConservative on June 2, 2011 at 4:10 AM

“Ryan told the president that he is making a sincere attempt to address a problem, and he challenged the president: “Mr. President, the demagoguery only stops if the Leaders stop it.”

So part of the Ryan Plan is to “reason” with Obama and Dims like Debbie Wasserman Schultz?

Really?

No – I mean – really?

Delusional.

The Ryan plan should have never seen the light of day until the GOP had the White House and Senate back in their hands again. Now – because of it – only a MAJOR CRASH in the economy is going to put the Republicans back in charge – and actually, it may happen – but if I’m wrong about that “crash” …

Then look forward to more years of Dimmocritic leadership. The next two years should have been about something that’s “doable” and would have contrasted the GOP and the Dims – DISCRETIONARY SPENDING. Yeah – it ain’t much money but the Dims defend that stuff tooth and nail and there are some really crazy and wasteful examples that we could have FORCED them to defend or defund – either of which would have been a victory for us – not them.

The Ryan Plan is exactly as Donald Trump described it – a suicide pact. It appears the “elites” of the party aren’t satisfied with just losing to the Tea Party – they want to burn the party down as they’re kicked out.

HondaV65 on June 2, 2011 at 4:50 AM

Do you really want the government to decide?

Wasserman-Snotface claimed that the GOP will allow you the right to choose your own plan. Well, Isn’t that what we want?

Do you want the government making your health care decisions for you? The Ryan plan addresses that!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do we really want to be influenced by the likes of a casino circus clown like Donald Trump(?), to decide what’s good legislative policy?

Do we want the government to decide what the value of our health is worth in the monitory bureaucratic abacus of a Washington DC Death Panel [sic]?????

A government, that will decide if we are worthy of a pacemaker, a transplant, a pill, to end it all?

Trump is WRONG, on so many levels!!!

Make the democrats fight for their plan. They don’t have a plan. They only have Obamacare, and no one WANTS it. Why are they issuing WAIVERS??????

TRUMP IS A FOIL, A RUSE, A JOKE, A CLOWN, A CRANK. Trump is a buffoon.

Don’t listen to this Trump clown, he is a liberal, talking like a RINO, can’t you see that???? He’s an idiot!

The Ryan Plan is not a suicide pact. It’s good fiscal sense. Call your congress man/woman and tell them you want CHOICE.

I do not want Government Controlled Health Care, DO YOU????

Kini on June 2, 2011 at 5:50 AM

The Ryan Plan is exactly as Donald Trump described it – a suicide pact.

HondaV65 on June 2, 2011 at 4:50 AM

Bush once “supported” the ownership society, a great notion where your retirement and the property you acquire in your life is actually yours, not common property of the federal government.

But for all his earned and boasted political capital that he intended to spend in support of such things, he caved – mostly due to a lack of support among Republicans in 2005.

Fast forward to today, and the Republicans are giving a standing O to Paul Ryan.

Good plans only need the light of day and strong support to continue to penetrate the BS spun by the no-budget-in-two-years Dems and by the media.

But you’re like one of those 2005 Republicans who squished on good plans like the ownership society.

Hint: it’s not 2005. There is a tea party. Obfuscation as a matter of political strategy doesn’t work in a more informed and transparent era. And we all see that our kids’ futures are in jeopardy, so get a spine, pal.

beatcanvas on June 2, 2011 at 5:57 AM

The Ryan Plan is exactly as Donald Trump described it – a suicide pact. It appears the “elites” of the party aren’t satisfied with just losing to the Tea Party – they want to burn the party down as they’re kicked out.

HondaV65 on June 2, 2011 at 4:50 AM

BS

The Ryan plan is sound. Do you want the gobmint making those decisions for you?

Kini on June 2, 2011 at 6:01 AM

Just flip around the question to the D’s and put it as a funding debate on the House floor.

- Do you want Medicare or the EPA?
- Do you want Medicare or the USDA?
- Do you want Medicare or the FDA?
- Do you want Medicare or the Dept. of Energy?
- Do you want Medicare or the Dept. of Education?

Everytime they choose Medicare, then that is another part of the federal government you don’t have to spend on.

At the end its really fun…

- Do you want Medicare or the funding of Obamacare?
- Do you want Medicare or Social Security?

Parts of the government that are necessary can get a spending reduction to, say, 2006 levels: DoD, State, US Mint, USPTO, maybe break up DHS into component parts and fund the few that are necessary, GAO to help sell off the equipment and furniture plus land and buildings of non-funded agencies.

Do note that Medicare, SSA, Medicaid… all the ‘entitlements’ are discretionary spending, as are all the other parts of the government not given in the US Constitution. There is no ‘guarantee’ on any ‘entitlement’ nor on any part of the discretionary budget. No Congress is bound by what a prior Congress has created for continued spending. That is the power of a Sovereign over its budget which we delegate to the House of Representatives and there is no counter-balance to it save to not authorize what the House passes. And if the D’s want to be in the position of closing down ALL of government to get ‘entitlements’ then LET THEM for it will be THEIR FAULT.

Play nasty.

Play dirty.

Make the D’s make some choices they can’t make, and if you find something MORE IMPORTANT than Medicare, use THAT as your next bargaining chip to get rid of more government.

ajacksonian on June 2, 2011 at 6:03 AM

My earlier comment got swallowed up in the Hot Air Filter….

THANKS HOT AIR

Trump is a clown and buffoon. Ryan’s plan is not a suicide pact. It is a good fiscal plan.

Kini on June 2, 2011 at 6:04 AM

There is really only one question to ask Obama about his mis characterization of Ryan’s budget proposal: is he simply too stupid to understand the bill or is he lying about it on purpose?

Jaibones on June 1, 2011 at 11:03 PM

I’m really hoping you’ll accept “and” rather than merely “or” as an answer to this question!

WesternActor on June 2, 2011 at 6:09 AM

Hint: it’s not 2005. There is a tea party. Obfuscation as a matter of political strategy doesn’t work in a more informed and transparent era. And we all see that our kids’ futures are in jeopardy, so get a spine, pal.

beatcanvas on June 2, 2011 at 5:57 AM

THIS!

Kini on June 2, 2011 at 6:19 AM

The Ryan plan should have never seen the light of day until the GOP had the White House and Senate back in their hands again. Now – because of it – only a MAJOR CRASH in the economy is going to put the Republicans back in charge – and actually, it may happen – but if I’m wrong about that “crash” …

Then look forward to more years of Dimmocritic leadership. The next two years should have been about something that’s “doable” and would have contrasted the GOP and the Dims – DISCRETIONARY SPENDING. Yeah – it ain’t much money but the Dims defend that stuff tooth and nail and there are some really crazy and wasteful examples that we could have FORCED them to defend or defund – either of which would have been a victory for us – not them.

The Ryan Plan is exactly as Donald Trump described it – a suicide pact. It appears the “elites” of the party aren’t satisfied with just losing to the Tea Party – they want to burn the party down as they’re kicked out.

HondaV65 on June 2, 2011 at 4:50 AM

I read your comments on HotAir all the time, and I like you and respect you for them. But I simply don’t understand your position on this. You make it sound like the instant the Republicans took over the House, they should have just done nothing. Because they didn’t also take back the Senate and the White House and they couldn’t push anything through, they should just sit around playing canasta all day? You complain every time the Republicans put forth anything, but I have never seen you say what you think they should do instead. I’m not trying to be mean or confrontational here, this is an honest question: If you don’t think the Republicans should pursue the policy promises that let them gain control of the House, then what exactly do you think they should do?

If your answer is, “They should obstruct the Democrats and not let them do anything,” that’s completely valid, but I fail to see how that’s necessarily politically better than what they’re doing. Come 2012, the Democrats will just run advertisements saying “Representative Whosit and Senator So-and-So are all for obstructionism in Washington, and stood in the way of Democrats passing the vital Give Every Child Hugs and Kisses Act, proving THEY HATE CHILDREN.”

It seems to me that anything and everything Republicans do is taken out of context and lied about by the Democrats. No matter what we do, they will never give us credit for anything, and they will use absolutely everything as ammunition against us. We do something, they tar and feather us. We do nothing, they tar and feather us. It seems that certain Republicans—at least those in the Paul Ryan school—have decided that at least making token efforts to push the policies that put them in power is better than just sitting around hoping the economy will completely implode on November 1, 2012, so they’ll finally have the House, Senate, and White House and be able to do something. You obviously don’t agree with their strategy. Which is fine, but: What exactly would you have them do instead?

WesternActor on June 2, 2011 at 6:29 AM

Democrats Republicans have settled on a political strategy of isolating and attacking the Ryan plan Obamacare instead of offering constructive solutions that could leave them open to attack. If history is any guide, this is a winning election strategy. But it is not necessarily responsible governance.”

what goes around, comes around. too late now to whine about responsible governance and expect being taken seriously.

you reap what you sow.

sesquipedalian on June 2, 2011 at 7:06 AM

Ryan makes a good point that I think voters will understand..if the Democrats don’t like his plan..where is their alternative?

I don’t think the Democrats are going to take back the House because of this. I really don’t. Anything is possible, but by the time the next election comes about all those medicare cuts made by Obamacare will become evident to seniors and they will be just as upset with the other side.

At least I hope this is true.

Terrye on June 2, 2011 at 7:07 AM

Mr. President, the demagoguery only stops if the Leaders stop it.”

and what happens afterwards, the WH press secretary begins the demagoguery once again….

ok LSM why aren’t you asking the libs and the WH where is there plan? they talk amongst themselves that they need to produce a plan, but never ask those folks directly…

cmsinaz on June 2, 2011 at 7:19 AM

there-their

cmsinaz on June 2, 2011 at 7:23 AM

The democrats plan is fairly obviously to have medicare crash and use the ‘crisis’ to implement fully socialized medicine.

Slowburn on June 2, 2011 at 7:42 AM

what goes around, comes around. too late now to whine about responsible governance and expect being taken seriously.

you reap what you sow.

sesquipedalian on June 2, 2011 at 7:06 AM

Spreading falsehoods again, eh liar?

The GOP offered several alternatives to Obamacare when it was jammed down our throats. They were ignored.

In this case, the Dems TRULY are NOT offering alternatives.

You fail.

fossten on June 2, 2011 at 7:43 AM

I applaud Paul Ryan – I applaud Palin for publically backing him – saying, “Paul Ryan’s plan is a start”.
Afterall, they should start somewhere.

As for Obamarama – I think that banks, businesses, citizens,
China, our allies and other countries are all standing back waiting for 2012, hoping that Obama will be defeated; replaced by a budget hawk conservative. This person by the way, whether you want to believe it or not is Palin. She did it as mayor and governor; she would do it as president.
She is beholden to no special interest group; she will answer only to what is right for this country.
All these other phonies running would be almost the same as Obama. And this country cannot afford it.

Amjean on June 2, 2011 at 7:45 AM

The democrats plan is fairly obviously to have medicare crash and use the ‘crisis’ to implement fully socialized medicine.

Slowburn on June 2, 2011 at 7:42 AM
You are partly right – only, they want the whole country to crash – otherwise, why are they not controlling spending?
And this goes for the rinos too!

Amjean on June 2, 2011 at 7:47 AM

We need a few more Reps like Jeff Landry, speaking truth to power.

Fallon on June 2, 2011 at 7:56 AM

“The president added that he is all for a reduction of demagoguery, an issue he understands since he is the ‘job killing, death panel, probably-wasn’t-born-here president.’…

What a whiny candy-a$$ baby! Why is he running for reelection? It has to be the perks ’cause everyone is so mean to him.

Cindy Munford on June 2, 2011 at 8:00 AM

sesquipedalian on June 2, 2011 at 7:06 AM

Continuing failed practices into destruction may be your idea of intelligence but don’t expect the rest of the country to buy your philosophy. The entire culture of D.C. has to change and if Republicans want to be the impetus, more power to them.

Cindy Munford on June 2, 2011 at 8:05 AM

Amjean on June 2, 2011 at 7:47 AM

Right, Narrow focus. Practicing to seduce some bright kids into the light, but The full truth will convince them I’m a nutter.

Slowburn on June 2, 2011 at 8:21 AM

The president added that he is all for a reduction of demagoguery, an issue he understands since he is the ‘job killing, death panel, probably-wasn’t-born-here president.’

There is no quality more attractive in a leader than petulant self-pity.

Jim Treacher on June 2, 2011 at 8:27 AM

“Obama’s response, according to Miller: ‘He said that anything I propose would have no change of being approved by your conference.’”

This is a punk-ass, crybaby response, and tells you pretty much everything you need to know about the skunk currently residing in the White House. What a joke.

CantCureStupid on June 2, 2011 at 8:37 AM

Continuing failed practices into destruction may be your idea of intelligence but don’t expect the rest of the country to buy your philosophy. The entire culture of D.C. has to change and if Republicans want to be the impetus, more power to them.

Cindy Munford on June 2, 2011 at 8:05 AM

ditto for healthcare reform. only then the democrats wanted to be the impetus, and republicans demagogued their efforts.

you’ve made a cynical faustian bargain, now face the consequences of selling your soul.

also, too, death panels!

sesquipedalian on June 2, 2011 at 8:42 AM

“Mr. President, the demagoguery only stops if the Leaders stop it.”

*applause*

He added that he wanted to clarify his position with Obama ‘so that in the future, he won’t mischaracterize it.’…

*applause* *applause*

Until the president produces a responsible deficit reduction plan, I’m not going to the White House to negotiate with myself.

*applause* *applause* *applause*

petefrt on June 2, 2011 at 8:44 AM

sesquipedalian on June 2, 2011 at 8:42 AM

Mr Ryan’s plan and health care could be fixed when good minds get together and work for what’s best for the people. Instead the Democrats aren’t willing to put anything forward on Medicare except scare tactics and they rammed the power grabbing healthcare down the American public’s throats. Both parties have been too willing to spend money to buy power, the Republicans appear to have gotten the message that those days are over, not so the Democrats. I hope the public is as smart as I think they are because it would be hard to believe that anyone is as stupid as the Dems think they are. But then they did vote for The Won, so time will tell.

Cindy Munford on June 2, 2011 at 8:57 AM

ditto for healthcare reform. only then the democrats wanted to be the impetus, and republicans demagogued their efforts.

you’ve made a cynical faustian bargain, now face the consequences of selling your soul.

also, too, death panels!

sesquipedalian on June 2, 2011 at 8:42 AM

See my comment above, liar.

fossten on June 2, 2011 at 9:15 AM

Mr Ryan’s plan and health care could be fixed when good minds get together and work for what’s best for the people.

ditto for obamacare. instead of good minds getting together, we got death panels. a difference i see is that obamacare is based on republican ideas (and ignored lefty wishes for a public option), whereas the ryan plan is deliberately constructed to be as offensive to dems as possible, full of ‘gifts’ that have nothing to do with the deficit. one plan could be a starting point for an honest, genuine debate, the other is a joke.

Instead the Democrats aren’t willing to put anything forward on Medicare except scare tactics and they rammed the power grabbing healthcare down the American public’s throats.

they didn’t ram it down anyone’s throats. they used their majority to pass it. it wasn’t popular – nor is ryan’s plan to do away with medicare.

Both parties have been too willing to spend money to buy power, the Republicans appear to have gotten the message that those days are over, not so the Democrats.

Cindy Munford on June 2, 2011 at 8:57 AM

if by “getting the message” you mean that republicans were forced by the base to vote for a suicidal bill that would accomplish the conservative fever dream of gutting medicare while cutting taxes on the rich, they certainly did that.

sesquipedalian on June 2, 2011 at 9:22 AM

they didn’t ram it down anyone’s throats. they used their majority to pass it. it wasn’t popular – nor is ryan’s plan to do away with medicare.

False. They used RECONCILIATION to pass it. And they hammered out the deal without any Republicans allowed in conferences.

if by “getting the message” you mean that republicans were forced by the base to vote for a suicidal bill that would accomplish the conservative fever dream of gutting medicare while cutting taxes on the rich, they certainly did that.

sesquipedalian on June 2, 2011 at 9:22 AM

False. How much money did Obama gut from Medicare by signing Obamacare?

A: $500 BILLION.

You are a sucky liar.

fossten on June 2, 2011 at 9:42 AM

mis-described…mischaracterize

Is there some legal reason why people can’t just man up and call someone a liar when they are…you know…a liar? Even Hannity won’t use the dreaded “L” word. WTF?

jnelchef on June 2, 2011 at 12:32 PM

More evidence that our ‘president’ is an ignorant fool: Obama Lectures Republicans During White House Meeting Why He’s Better Than Ronald Reagan

slickwillie2001 on June 2, 2011 at 12:22 AM

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…energy prices at an all time high…..
……….food prices at all time highs……
…………….GDP dragging at a little over 1%
……………….unemployment at all time highs
…………………..debt and deficits at all time highs
………………………Foreign policy is a mess
…………………………..launching wars without Congressional approval against oil rich countries that didn’t attack us and posed no imminent threat
………..people on food stamps at an all time high
…………….Government spending at all time highs
………………….so many promises broken

Yea right…much better than Reagan….
Obama’s AWESOME!!!!!

Baxter Greene on June 2, 2011 at 12:52 AM

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Barry just says sh*t… He knows he’s lying and that what you point out here is the case… He doesn’t care. Some MSM or moderate will lap it up.
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Also I think part of his strategy at this time (since the old media doesn’t call him on anything)… is to lie constantly to create as much confusion as possible.
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He needs the confusion… because otherwise the truth will become obvious to even the dumbest non-Ozombie.
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RalphyBoy on June 2, 2011 at 1:52 PM