Meet the lizard that will kill Texas oil production

posted at 5:35 pm on June 1, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

Texas has a shale boom starting that could dramatically increase American oil production — an increase perhaps as high as 25%, which would help curb gas prices and reduce our dependence on foreign sources of oil. The Eagle Ford field just got sold today to Marathon Oil for $3.5 billion, which gives an indication of the field’s value. But this field could be at risk — and other fields as well — if the US Fish and Wildlife Service lists the sand dunes lizard as endangered:

The sand dune lizard is a small reptile that has become the scourge of the Texas Oil industry, not because it is dangerous but because the threatened species could put land ripe for oil exploration off limits.

“As far as I am concerned, it is Godzilla,” Texas land commissioner Jerry Paterson told ABC News. “[It's] the biggest threat facing the oil business in memory,” said Ben Shepperd, president of the Permian Basin Petroleum Association. They believe the small tan-colored, insectivorous lizard could cost the oil industry and surrounding communities thousands of jobs. …

If the species makes the list, its 800,000 acre habitat in the shinnery oak sand dune communities of southeastern New Mexico and southwestern Texas would receive protected status. That habitat happens to be right in the heart of Texas oil country.

“If the lizard is put on the endangered species list, then [rigs] would [be] shutdown,” Leslyn Wallace, a land manager at RSP Permian, told ABC News. That would cost many Texans their jobs.

Sounds quite a bit like the Delta smelt, doesn’t it? The federal government shut off water to one of the richest agricultural regions in the US to save a bait fish and ended up turning California’s Central Valley into a dust bowl, throwing thousands of people out of work and impacting the American food supply. As the USFW official explains in this video, the government doesn’t consider economics when listing endangered species, an act that essentially federalizes land and puts up so many barriers to use that any industry dries up — literally, in the case of the Delta smelt.

I wrote about this five weeks ago when the topic first arose, but ABC puts this in important perspective. The impact of listing this lizard could make 500 million barrels of oil that we know of off limits in Texas. That won’t just kill jobs in that state; it will contribute to rising energy costs that will choke the economy even more than now, with losses of jobs extending nationally and far into the future.

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Oregon had the Spotted Owl that destroyed our economy in the 80′s & 90′s.

portlandon on June 1, 2011 at 5:37 PM

I’d say environmentalism is out of control.
They are determined to destroy this country from within.

Kini on June 1, 2011 at 5:39 PM

I watched the special for that. They could not find anyone who had ever seen the lizard before. Envirowackos keeping our own energy from us. Thanks Richard Nixon and the EPA!

TheQuestion on June 1, 2011 at 5:39 PM

This will be more like the spotted owl fiasco. Someone will discover that the species is in massive numbers elsewhere but the watermelon’s will still carry on with their Sinai fertilizing line of claptrap. And the spotted owl, they were found in other regions.

TQM38a on June 1, 2011 at 5:40 PM

To hell with this damned lizard.
Grab some and clone ‘em if they’re that important…

OmahaConservative on June 1, 2011 at 5:41 PM

Remember when that oil pipeline killed off all them cariboose?

oh wait

Jeddite on June 1, 2011 at 5:41 PM

Fitting there’s a Geico ad on my page as I read this.

Awwwwwwww. Save the cute little lizard! Screw the humans!

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somewhatconcerned on June 1, 2011 at 5:43 PM

Hmmm…

Competition from other lizard species may be a threat as well. Uta stansburiana, the Side-blotched Lizard, seems to be more of a habitat generalist than the Dunes Sagebrush Lizard, and may be able to take advantage of recent habitat changes, introducing skewed resource competition that is not natural for that ecosystem.

What I want to know is what we gain by saving this species of lizard. As compared to what we know we are losing?

Del Dolemonte on June 1, 2011 at 5:43 PM

This is stupid. You need oil not lizard.

Falz on June 1, 2011 at 5:43 PM

Governor Perry should ignore any and all rulings from the US Fish and Wildlife Service pertaining to this lizard and offer the extraction companies the protection of the Texas National Guard.

Texas has sea ports and can easily sell oil to anyone that wants it if the US won’t take it.

Screw this out of control Politburo and thier little henchmen.

darwin on June 1, 2011 at 5:43 PM

I’m soooo sick of this sh*t! G*ddamn lizards, bait fish, whootie owls and mosquitos are more important than the lives and well-being of Americans. It’s disgusting. We are a responsible people. This blanket edict of non-development is retarded and it must be stopped.

JAM on June 1, 2011 at 5:44 PM

My dog routinely kills lizards. Probably a hundred a year. She is terrier and next to catching Frisbees, this is her favorite pass time. I do live in Texas, so is my dog now in contempt of the Endangered Specie Act, and a fugitive from justice.

Wanted 2 year old Welsh Terrier lizard murderer, public enemy, felon, and Frisbee catcher.

DeathB4Tyranny on June 1, 2011 at 5:44 PM

Also, I’d like an explanation of how a lizard with an 800,000 acre habitat is threatened by localized extraction.

darwin on June 1, 2011 at 5:44 PM

Squish em where ya find em!

mimi1220 on June 1, 2011 at 5:46 PM

Ironically, in all the history of oil exploration and extraction, there is no history of every causing a local species to go extinct. Never.

The industry might disturb 3-4% of the 800,000 acres leaving the other 96% to the local species, and that will have no measurable effect on any specific animal in the region.

Lawrence on June 1, 2011 at 5:46 PM

This “president” ignores laws and the constitution, so why would Perry not do the same?
If the law is not “convenient” as McCain puts it in support of Obama ignoring the law, than I see nothing wrong with a Governor doing the same…

right2bright on June 1, 2011 at 5:47 PM

Governor Perry should ignore any and all rulings from the US Fish and Wildlife Service pertaining to this lizard and offer the extraction companies the protection of the Texas National Guard.

Texas has sea ports and can easily sell oil to anyone that wants it if the US won’t take it.

Screw this out of control Politburo and thier little henchmen.

darwin on June 1, 2011 at 5:43 PM

THIS. JUST FIGHT BACK FOR GOD’S SAKE.

mimi1220 on June 1, 2011 at 5:47 PM

I don’t understand this. Like DeathB4 was saying, lizards are able to live in back yards even though pets regularly kill them. Here in southern Ca we have lizards and even with predators and housing they survive. Why shut down the whole area?

Rose on June 1, 2011 at 5:47 PM

I’m soooo sick of this sh*t! G*ddamn lizards, bait fish, whootie owls and mosquitos are more important than the lives and well-being of Americans. It’s disgusting. We are a responsible people. This blanket edict of non-development is retarded and it must be stopped.

JAM on June 1, 2011 at 5:44 PM

Texas, with Perry at the helm, is in the position to say “Gonna f*cking stop us?”

I think that any oil they dredge up can make up for federal funds pulled from the state as punishment. And I wouldn’t put it past Perry to “accidentally” forget to remit the feds’ portion of anything they collect.

teke184 on June 1, 2011 at 5:48 PM

Let’s look on the bright side-the lizard, Obama and OPEC robber barons will all be happy.

MaiDee on June 1, 2011 at 5:48 PM

I’d say environmentalism is out of control.
They are determined to destroy this country from within.

Kini on June 1, 2011 at 5:39 PM

Socialism is the father of environmentalism

faraway on June 1, 2011 at 5:48 PM

The industry might disturb 3-4% of the 800,000 acres leaving the other 96% to the local species, and that will have no measurable effect on any specific animal in the region.

Lawrence on June 1, 2011 at 5:46 PM

Whaaaaaat? 3-4% ?????? The lizards won’t be able to adjust!1!!11!111!!11!

They’ll die !!1!1!11!1!11!

Kill people instead !11!1!!1!1!!!1!

-Typical Enviro-Nazi

darwin on June 1, 2011 at 5:48 PM

Kill people instead !11!1!!1!1!!!1!

-Typical Enviro-Nazi

Looks like you’re first.

- The public at large.

teke184 on June 1, 2011 at 5:49 PM

If this silly lizard gets in the way of oil in Texas, it will not be endangered, it will be extinct. Those people have guns and they are not afraid to use them.

Terrye on June 1, 2011 at 5:49 PM

If this silly lizard gets in the way of oil in Texas, it will not be endangered, it will be extinct. Those people have guns and they are not afraid to use them.

I don’t think these lizards are big enough for guns. They’ll just bring some dogs out, give them the scent of the lizard, and let them go to work.

teke184 on June 1, 2011 at 5:51 PM

A position like this….

Governor Perry should ignore any and all rulings from the US Fish and Wildlife Service pertaining to this lizard and offer the extraction companies the protection of the Texas National Guard.

Texas has sea ports and can easily sell oil to anyone that wants it if the US won’t take it.

Screw this out of control Politburo and thier little henchmen.

darwin on June 1, 2011 at 5:43 PM

would get Perry in the WH faster than you can say Jack Wagon

hoakie on June 1, 2011 at 5:51 PM

Also, I’d like an explanation of how a lizard with an 800,000 acre habitat is threatened by localized extraction.

darwin on June 1, 2011 at 5:44 PM

That translates to about 1250 square miles. Out in that part of the US, that is a “small” area.

How come these pantywaists aren’t whining about all of the commercial rattlesnake harvesting out there? That’s been going on for decades.

Del Dolemonte on June 1, 2011 at 5:51 PM

How does the EPA and US Wildelife & Fish usurp the US Constitution???

Even Teddy Rossevelt would be livid.

Odie1941 on June 1, 2011 at 5:52 PM

Why shut down the whole area?

Rose on June 1, 2011 at 5:47 PM

Because communists seek to eventually deny the average American the freedom of mobility. Cheap energy = freedom of movement. They want to begin the process of “nudging” people into large, urban areas.

Nothing the green communists do has anything to do with the environment. It’s all about control, money and power.

darwin on June 1, 2011 at 5:53 PM

If it wasn’t the sand dunes lizard, it would be another animal suddenly endangered by the presence of a drilling rig. I don’t think people fully understand: this administration hates the idea of an increase in domestic oil production. Hates it. From the perspective of the radical leftists running the executive branch, every barrel of oil extracted from American ground delays the Green Utopia they dream about at night, a happy place where the pretty flowers pick themselves and the federal government controls all energy production. Control energy production and healthcare services and you control everything. No king, kaiser, or tsar ever had so much power.

Even more, I’m fairly certain most of those responsible for the runaway EPA realize man-made climate change is a hoax, but it happens to be a hoax that suits their purposes perfectly.

troyriser_gopftw on June 1, 2011 at 5:56 PM

would get Perry in the WH faster than you can say Jack Wagon

hoakie on June 1, 2011 at 5:51 PM

If Perry did something like that not only would he be in the White House, but Palin would back out and make sure she wasn’t in his way.

darwin on June 1, 2011 at 5:56 PM

Step on all those little bastards. Drill, baby, drill.

greggriffith on June 1, 2011 at 5:57 PM

If it’s put on the endangered list, then what is necessary is to make the worthless damned thing extinct. Vigilante squads, if necessary.

Extinct is not endangered.

Then, we drill.

About time we stopped obeying their laws.

NoDonkey on June 1, 2011 at 5:59 PM

The gutless yellow belly Perry won’t do a damn thing.

wheelgun on June 1, 2011 at 6:00 PM

Hey whatever helps get gas to $5 a gallon by Nov. 2012 is fine with.

angryed on June 1, 2011 at 6:00 PM

I blame this on The Lizard People Coalition,
and Lizard Lobbyists!!

************************ NUTS *****************************

canopfor on June 1, 2011 at 6:00 PM

Thought this was a post about Newt…

right2bright on June 1, 2011 at 6:01 PM

More proof that the U S Government is at war with the U S Dollar. The Government is intentionally destroying America’s oil supplies, food supplies and coal generated electricity supplies. Those are the big three that the Eighth Air Force had to destroy to defeat Germany.

jimw on June 1, 2011 at 6:01 PM

Screw the USFW! Save Texas families not lizards. We need to move America forward, and if that means forcing some desert reptile to relocate, so be it. People are more important than lizards. Families are more important than lizards. Jobs are more important than lizards. Economic expansion is more important than lizards. We’ll stand with you Gov. Perry, if you want to ignore the USFW.

Weight of Glory on June 1, 2011 at 6:01 PM

In reality, lizards aren’t stupid. All living creatures are endowed with a survival instinct. If men, trucks and equipment show up the lizrds move a hundreds yards away.

Wait, let me clarify. All living creatures with the exception of liberals have a survival instinct. Liberals seem to love death and destruction (see: the history of communism and it’s results).

darwin on June 1, 2011 at 6:01 PM

Ingenuity and dedication should be able to find a way to access the oil and not eradicate a form of life from the face of the earth. Expand the habitat – relocate the lizards – some mixture of both – something else clever that I can’t begin to fathom since I’m not a specialist. Most “either/or” decisions usually aren’t really – human beings tend to like false dichotomies (more so in politics).

dieudonne on June 1, 2011 at 6:02 PM

How exactly are these animals endangered by the oil industry?

I bet the little stinkers would thrive around the buildings and equipment.

I think Texas has to worry more about the enviro-weazles Wild-Earth Guardians lawyers.

shick on June 1, 2011 at 6:03 PM

Repeal bad laws.

AshleyTKing on June 1, 2011 at 6:03 PM

If the skin of the lizard cured aids, or aborted babies, it would be extinct in about 3 days…

right2bright on June 1, 2011 at 6:04 PM

Go ahead, US Fish and Wildlife Service, make our day!

Knott Buyinit on June 1, 2011 at 6:04 PM

“Reptile dysfunction.”
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The Doors: Celebration of the Lizard Part 1
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9BfB6W5Gc4

canopfor on June 1, 2011 at 6:04 PM

dieudonne on June 1, 2011 at 6:02 PM

They said the same thing about moose and others in Alaska…the doggone things are breeding like rabbits…

right2bright on June 1, 2011 at 6:05 PM

Governor Perry should ignore any and all rulings from the US Fish and Wildlife Service pertaining to this lizard and offer the extraction companies the protection of the Texas National Guard.

Bravo. You win the prize for subverting the rule of law and promoting armed violence between various branches of government in 50 words or less.

dieudonne on June 1, 2011 at 6:05 PM

The only endangered species should be the EPA.

Defund the EPA.

Repeal all legislation, trash all regulation.

Fire each and every employee.

Auction off everything.

Shutter all the offices.

Then hold a big damned party.

turfmann on June 1, 2011 at 6:06 PM

FlexFuel? Gasoline/Lizard.
Harvest lizard tails for feed. They are renewable!

Texas Tom on June 1, 2011 at 6:06 PM

I live in West Texas, teach Geography of Texas at the local university, and fully realize the importance of oil in especially the Permian Basin economy. The economy there is the strongest in the nation because of high oil prices and a new method of secondary oil recovery that has boosted production.

I am confident that the lizard will not not be declared as endangered, the reason being that doing so would cause a political firestorm that could consume the Obama administration. The Central Valley, California situation was different in that the state administration was not willing to stand up to the U.S. government and broccoli was not selling at $4.00 a lb. Declaring the lizard to be endangered would also likely get Governor Perry into the presidential race with an immediate winning campaign issue.

Obama is mendacious, but not stupid.

ptolemy on June 1, 2011 at 6:06 PM

Could someone in this idiotic scenario explain to me how my life, or the life of any other human being will change if this lizard disappeared from the face of the earth tomorrow? Conversely, how will people’s lives be changed if drilling is not allowed in this area? What do you think matters more? Come people. Wake up to this nonsense.

JSobon on June 1, 2011 at 6:08 PM

Ingenuity and dedication should be able to find a way to access the oil and not eradicate a form of life from the face of the earth. Expand the habitat – relocate the lizards – some mixture of both – something else clever that I can’t begin to fathom since I’m not a specialist. Most “either/or” decisions usually aren’t really – human beings tend to like false dichotomies (more so in politics).

dieudonne on June 1, 2011 at 6:02 PM

Hey, e.coli is a “form of life” too. Should we also save that?

I’ll ask my question from earlier in this thread again. What does the US gain from saving this “form of life” from extinction? We already know what we lose if we save it.

Del Dolemonte on June 1, 2011 at 6:09 PM

Bravo. You win the prize for subverting the rule of law and promoting armed violence between various branches of government in 50 words or less.

dieudonne on June 1, 2011 at 6:05 PM

Dude … standing up for what’s right matters more than any law manipulated by evil people to achieve an evil end.

darwin on June 1, 2011 at 6:10 PM

Obama is mendacious, but not stupid.

ptolemy on June 1, 2011 at 6:06 PM

I’m not entirely convinced of that.

darwin on June 1, 2011 at 6:11 PM

I think we need to put environmentalist on the endangered list. If people who lose there jobs and those of us whos costs go up because of their acts hold them physically responsible. After their numbers are thinned a little, they would think twice about what they try to do to us.

Zelsdorf Ragshaft on June 1, 2011 at 6:12 PM

Here’s what I don’t get:

1. Guaranteed that most environmentalists are Evolutionists not Creationists.

2. If #1 is true, then why do they totally freak out that some tiny little animal/fish/newt/whatever, is eventually “Evolved” out of existence? If things didn’t die off then wouldn’t there be humanoid forms with fins, tails, etc.?

mrsmwp on June 1, 2011 at 6:13 PM

I read that Texas plans to drill 3000 new oil rigs. I don’t think anything will stop them.

That stupid tiny smelt fish destroyed the Central Valley of California. I hate environmentalists. They are like little kids who are spoilers. They just want to sue.

Blake on June 1, 2011 at 6:13 PM

Could someone in this idiotic scenario explain to me how my life, or the life of any other human being will change if this lizard disappeared from the face of the earth tomorrow? Conversely, how will people’s lives be changed if drilling is not allowed in this area? What do you think matters more? Come people. Wake up to this nonsense.

JSobon on June 1, 2011 at 6:08 PM

The lizard will not go extinct just because people start extracting oil. Environmentalism and it’s tools … like the Endangered Species Act … are simply tools used to achieve an end, an evil end.

darwin on June 1, 2011 at 6:15 PM

OT: the Democrats in Massachusetts have been getting pounded all afternoon with tornadoes. Springfield in western MA hardest hit with another twister on the ground there now. Boston suburbs also under a tornado warning.

Del Dolemonte on June 1, 2011 at 6:16 PM

They are trying to destroy our economy and our way of life.

PattyJ on June 1, 2011 at 6:19 PM

The video mentions NM and TX, but the blog focuses on TX. The Feds don’t give a rip about TX, but if NM kicks up enough hay, they may listen. Open 2012 Senate seat. And I think Susana Martinez is something of a sleeper VP candidate.

swamp_yankee on June 1, 2011 at 6:19 PM

Who knew that Jimmy Carter told the USA that the world would be all out of oil, not one drop left, by the year 2,000?

It was during one of his famous fireside chats for useful idiots. Fireside chats was sort of like the Obama teleprompter seances, but with an atmosphere of a date.

tarpon on June 1, 2011 at 6:20 PM

I’ll ask my question from earlier in this thread again. What does the US gain from saving this “form of life” from extinction? We already know what we lose if we save it.

We rarely know the full effect of eradicating a form of life from the earth until it’s too late and we’ve deeply damaged the ecosystem of a given area. Not knowing the consequences of ones actions is a sound conservative reason for not doing something until you know more

The E. Coli you mention also serves a vital function in the digestive tracts of most mammals by providing vitamin K and preventing the growth of infectious bacteria. Even small forms of life can have outsized impacts.

What insects does this animal eat? Do any of them spread disease to humans? (Encephalitis and West Nile anyone?) What eats the lizard that might be harmed by the loss? Can either of those roles be filled by another animal? Can we displace the lizards without eradicating them?

dieudonne on June 1, 2011 at 6:20 PM

Step on all those little bastards. Drill, baby, drill.

greggriffith on June 1, 2011 at 5:57 PM

Mixed in proper proportions with bentonite, I hear they make excellent drilling mud….

BigWyo on June 1, 2011 at 6:22 PM

The only endangered species should be the EPA itself.

michaelo on June 1, 2011 at 6:23 PM

2. If #1 is true, then why do they totally freak out that some tiny little animal/fish/newt/whatever, is eventually “Evolved” out of existence? If things didn’t die off then wouldn’t there be humanoid forms with fins, tails, etc.?

mrsmwp on June 1, 2011 at 6:13 PM

A species that has been wiped out through human action (either direct destruction or destruction of habitat) has not “evolved out of existence” – it’s been destroyed as a consequence of human action. Humans are many things but we are not a natural force – we reshape nature around us.

dieudonne on June 1, 2011 at 6:24 PM

The Eagle Ford field just got sold today to Marathon Oil for $3.5 billion, which gives an indication of the field’s value. But this field could be at risk — and other fields as well — if the US Fish and Wildlife Service lists the sand dunes lizard as endangered:

Fortunately, the Eagle Ford area is in south Texas, about 700 miles from the lizard habitat.

Unfortunately, the lizard’s stomping grounds are all over some of the most oil-productive part of the Permian Basin. And cover a good bit of one of the newest emerging shale plays, the Avalon Shale, which is part of the Bone Springs formation. That play is just starting to gain momentum, and could be very big. And could get nipped in the bud if they shut the area down.

What I don’t understand is why New Mexico has been pushing to make this critter an endangered species. About 35% of their state budget comes from oil revenue in the SE corner of the state, right where the dysfunctional reptile lives.

iurockhead on June 1, 2011 at 6:26 PM

“Reptile dysfunction.”
canopfor on June 1, 2011 at 6:04 PM

Ding, ding, ding. Thread winner!

chewmeister on June 1, 2011 at 6:27 PM

Mixed in proper proportions with bentonite, I hear they make excellent drilling mud….

BigWyo on June 1, 2011 at 6:22 PM

Lizard LCM!

iurockhead on June 1, 2011 at 6:27 PM

If the lizard can;t get learn to get out of our way then it has ‘evolved’ itself out of existence.

kill enough of ‘em , maybe I can get a cool pair of boots.

exsanguine on June 1, 2011 at 6:33 PM

I’m working on inventing a car that runs on pureed lizard.

aero on June 1, 2011 at 6:34 PM

A little research–only in a land dominated by liberals where the lives of depraved murderers and insignificant lizards are to be spared, but the lives of innocent babies are not-could we get such nonsense.

The sand dune lizard (aka dunes sagebrush lizard) was, until recently, a SUBSPECIES of the extremely common sagebrush lizard (spread across most of the west to the Pacific coast)) and had the subspecies name of SCELOPORUS GRACIOSUS ARENICOLAS. Now a SUBspecies cannot obviously be an endangered SPECIES. But then it was decided to reclassify this lizard as a SPECIES-SCELOPORUS ARENICOLAS-so the bottom line is that by reclassifying, what was common became rare and what was a subspecies now became a species–the old name game.

MaiDee on June 1, 2011 at 6:37 PM

There are some days when I honestly don’t think we can ever recover from the stupidity we have created. How can anyone NOT simply want to dismantle every freaking level of this fraud we now call government.

Tim Zank on June 1, 2011 at 6:43 PM

We rarely know the full effect of eradicating a form of life from the earth until it’s too late and we’ve deeply damaged the ecosystem of a given area. Not knowing the consequences of ones actions is a sound conservative reason for not doing something until you know more

dieudonne on June 1, 2011 at 6:20 PM

Thanks for not answering my question.

Can you give us examples of other species we’ve “made extinct” and which of those extinctions had negative results?

BTW, the tree huggers admit they don’t even know where these lizards live.

Locating populations of sand dune lizard is a real challenge, says Burr Williams, Midland naturalist and executive director of the Sibley Nature Center. To find them, Williams recommended, “You have to build yourself a drift fence, which is a long strip of metal or netting or something. You make it in a ‘V’ shape across the land,” anywhere from 100-300 feet long.

-snip-

On the New Mexico side, most of the perceived habitat is on government land. The state has worked with the few landowners involved to allow most activities to continue while research goes forward. If the sand dune lizard is put on the ES list, that would involve more federal oversight, which concerns Williams. “It seems like, when the Feds come in, it seems like, sometimes they say, ‘You locals don’t know anything, so wait till the experts tell us what to do,’ and that’s part of the issue, too, I think.”

He also questions numbers showing a decrease in shinnery oak habitat from 1 million acres to 600,000 acres over recent years. Williams stated that some has been lost in some counties, but ranchers have told him that it has actually increased in other locations.

Basically, “There’s been an oilfield in that band of sand dunes for 70 years, and they’re still there,” he said of the lizards’ resiliency.

http://www.mywesttexas.com/business/oil/article_3c9f173a-aaf2-5dac-a266-79dba46501f7.html#ixzz1O4GvAhR9

Del Dolemonte on June 1, 2011 at 6:46 PM

Obama is mendacious, but not stupid.

ptolemy on June 1, 2011 at 6:06 PM

Wrong; he’s both, no doubt about it.

slickwillie2001 on June 1, 2011 at 6:48 PM

This…

If this silly lizard gets in the way of oil in Texas, it will not be endangered, it will be extinct. Those people have guns and they are not afraid to use them.

Terrye on June 1, 2011 at 5:49 PM

Plus this…

If it’s put on the endangered list, then what is necessary is to make the worthless damned thing extinct. Vigilante squads, if necessary.

Extinct is not endangered.

Then, we drill.

About time we stopped obeying their laws.

NoDonkey on June 1, 2011 at 5:59 PM

Is achieved through snake shot rounds, anything from #9 to #12 shot. A 22lr with snakeshot should do it… cheap, easy, relatively safe, fun for the whole family! A Marlin 60 is cheap, a box of 50 rounds is under $10… soon its lizard fest 2011. The good old 45 ACP rounds use #9 shot, but I’m sure TX could convince a manufacturer to load them with something smaller…

Yes there is a typical American solution to this.

ajacksonian on June 1, 2011 at 6:49 PM

The leftist nitwits don’t give a damn about lizards.

They want to keep America buying oil from third world hellholes as a form of wealth redistribution. And if they can stick their finger in the eye of a red state – gravy.

We cannot just defeat the democrat party – we have to destroy them root and branch. We need to kick out every single elected democrat, from president to the local dog catcher.

It’s the only way to stop this insanity.

Rebar on June 1, 2011 at 6:51 PM

That’s okay there is considerably more than 500 million bbls of recoverable oil just across the border in an east/west belt known as the Tuscaloosa Marine Shale. Even Mississippi gets a sliver of that pie.

Kermit on June 1, 2011 at 6:54 PM

My dog routinely kills lizards. Probably a hundred a year. She is terrier and next to catching Frisbees, this is her favorite pass time. I do live in Texas, so is my dog now in contempt of the Endangered Specie Act, and a fugitive from justice.

Wanted 2 year old Welsh Terrier lizard murderer, public enemy, felon, and Frisbee catcher.

DeathB4Tyranny on June 1, 2011 at 5:44 PM

Well, the Leftist solution to this situation is clear: shoot your dog, and ride a bicycle everywhere….or pay $10 a gallon for gasoline.

tgharris on June 1, 2011 at 6:57 PM

Thanks for not answering my question.

I did answer the question. The answer is “we don’t know” – unless you know of some sound research about what the specific results of the extinction of this particular species would be.

Part of conservatism is not acting blindly and stomping and clawing your way into the future without considering consequences. Do you merely assume there would be none or do you have a positive argument for why there would be none?

dieudonne on June 1, 2011 at 7:00 PM

Hey , It’s just EVOLUTION, if the lizards die out, that’s why we don’t have dinosaurs running around and eating homeless people, who are sleeping under the overpasses. Big bad old EVOLUTION, is why species die out, they couldn’t hack it so now they’re a part of the fossil record, kind of like in GOD’s memory.

bigmike on June 1, 2011 at 7:02 PM

There’s a reason dinosaurs are extinct.

SouthernGent on June 1, 2011 at 7:04 PM

Further research: The Side-Blotched Lizard, more environmentally adaptable, could render the sand dune lizard extinct WITHOUT ANY HUMAN INTERFERENCE.

I only pursue this silly subject because it points out what stupid scumbags our government officials are and to remind all that 99.9 of all species that ever existed are extinct and 99.9999999% of these extinctions occurred before human existence.

MaiDee on June 1, 2011 at 7:04 PM

I have said time and time again that bho and his team(epa) will see to it that we do not get the oil, gas, shale, or refineries in our state. We have gobs of oil on and off shore that could help us out here in our country. The fact our state is doing so well with jobs, all bills passed and signed by Perry has bho in a snit! How long till all the team bho has will haul all states to court for protecting the states? That gosh horrible sebilus has said that Gov. Daniels can not sign a bill into law in his state that won’t fund planned parenthood. Gotta stop bho and team, period.
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letget on June 1, 2011 at 7:09 PM

800,000 acres and a mule.

BKeyser on June 1, 2011 at 7:12 PM

ajacksonian on June 1, 2011 at 6:49 PM

We called ‘em rat shot. Good fun for a country boy with a hen house. Dead rats don’t bother chickens. Some even appreciate the extra protean (heh I like it that way).

Caststeel on June 1, 2011 at 7:12 PM

oh for the freaking love of God.

Most of the wells to be drilled in texas are lateral wells, not exploratory. How the hell is a lateral well (which is called a side track and already a WELL that has already been cased) going to hurt a freaking lizard, when the rigs are already THERE?

Someone,take your head out of your posterior and think.

Environmentalist are just freaking MENTAL!

upinak on June 1, 2011 at 7:26 PM

The Sandhills themsleves are in an extremely narrow band — not even 10 miles wide — on the eastern slope of the Pecos River Basin, running from an area northwest of Crane, and then to the east of the towns of Monahans and Kermit up into the Lea County, N.M., area between Jal and Eunice. There’s already a state park in the area and even though the Sandhills touch part of four counties (Andrews, Crane, Ward, Winkler), the percentage of area in all of those counties that serves as habitat for both the shinnery oak and sand dune lizard is small.

The real question is if the federal government does issue some sort of protection, do they just limit it to the Sandhills strip running through those counties, or do they issue a county-wide ban on oil drilling? In Andrews County, there are some sections that are 40 miles away from the nearest shimmery oak or sand dune lizard, but as the latest rig count shows, Andrews is one of the most active counties in oil drilling in West Texas, and Crane and Ward also are highly active right now.

(The other thing to note, if you look at the interactive map and check out the area in question, at the moment, there’s only one rig active in any area right over the Sandhills, in the northwest corner of Crane County. The drilling companies whether by accident or fear about the federal government’s possible retroactive action, are staying out of the area, but drilling heavily on either side of the Sandhills zone.)

jon1979 on June 1, 2011 at 7:29 PM

The wildlife along the Alaska pipeline appear to be fine. When does the enviro movement admit it’s wrong about all this?

PattyJ on June 1, 2011 at 7:33 PM

As a Texas, I’d just like to say that if the feds make this declaration, I’m going to become a very active part of whatever effort arises to first tell DC to f@#$ off, and secondly work towards secession if necessary.

Midas on June 1, 2011 at 7:36 PM

http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/gallery/100618/GAL-10Jun18-4921/media/PHO-10Jun18-232937.jpg

Could it be this lizard?

Sand lizards scurry away when people, trucks, horses, whatever, come tromping around their territory. Roadrunners have a distinct advantage, just ask Wylie Coyote. Endangered? Not likely. They’re everywhere. And there are thousands of square miles of desert for them to live in, on, and under. This is just the usual BarryO Kill American Oil Team at work.

Move along.

Robert17 on June 1, 2011 at 7:39 PM

Watch out because ObaMao’s nomination for Secretary of Commerce is a green evangelist, too.

onlineanalyst on June 1, 2011 at 7:45 PM

The wildlife along the Alaska pipeline appear to be fine. When does the enviro movement admit it’s wrong about all this?

PattyJ on June 1, 2011 at 7:33 PM

HA!!!

How about ‘Never’?? Is ‘Never’ good for you??? When do leftard hippies ever admit they’re ‘wrong’?

BigWyo on June 1, 2011 at 7:49 PM

Well, that worked out well….

BigWyo on June 1, 2011 at 7:50 PM

Thanks for not answering my question.

I did answer the question. The answer is “we don’t know” – unless you know of some sound research about what the specific results of the extinction of this particular species would be.

Part of conservatism is not acting blindly and stomping and clawing your way into the future without considering consequences. Do you merely assume there would be none or do you have a positive argument for why there would be none?

dieudonne on June 1, 2011 at 7:00 PM

Thanks again for not answering my question.

One more time, can you cite the extinction of any species at the hand of man that has had a major negative impact on humans as the result of that species’ extinction?

Taken as a whole, the number of mammals, reptiles, amphibians, birds, fishes, inverterbrates and plants which became extinct after 1500 AD was close to 800 at the beginning of this century.

That averages out to 1.6 species becoming extinct per year. From all causes. Over 500 years

Across the groups, the number listed as “extinct” increased by 18 between 2000 and 2006 — after taking into account a few species which were rediscovered during the period, or that were transferred to the “data deficient” category.

That averages out to 3 species a year becoming extinct in the first 6 years in the 21st century.

10 of those 18 extinctions were animals. Of those, only 1 species was rendered extinct by human intervention of their habitat, namely the Spix’s Macaw in Brazil. Another was rendered extinct by poachers in West Africa to supply demand for “drugs” from the Far East (West African Black Rhino)

Many of the others that went extinct were already in protected preserves, but became extinct anyway. That includes 3 bird species in the state O’bama claims to have been born in. That means that despite this longtime Democrat stronghold’s tree hugging policies, 1/3 of all mammal extinctions in the 21st century happened in their state on their watch.

Del Dolemonte on June 1, 2011 at 7:52 PM

when did being good stewards of the earth equate to cheering the destruction and extinction of species in the pursuit of oil, simply because it is the ‘cheaper’ fuel?

Zekecorlain on June 1, 2011 at 7:53 PM

Something tells me the author of the New York Times piece has no idea what the “E” in “EOG Resources” stands for or that piece would have had a much more hostile tone. *Hint*:

It starts with “E,” and ends with “nron”

Medicated on June 1, 2011 at 8:08 PM

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