Weiner: Let’s move on, shall we?

posted at 2:18 pm on May 31, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

Rep. Anthony Weiner gets a skeptical reception from reporters after he suggests that he will move on from the so-called “Weinergate” story that erupted over the weekend. In this clip from CNN, Weiner says the story will go away on its own, to which one reporter responds that the story would go away more quickly if Weiner would answer some of the questions — such as whether he’s pressing for an investigation, whether this was a “hack” or a “prank,” and so forth. Weiner tells the reporters that he’s not convinced answering questions will do much good, a response that they clearly don’t accept:

Allahpundit has been linking the most prominent “Weinergate” stories in the headlines, but neither of us have had anything to say about the story until now. For my part — I won’t speak for AP — the explanation could have gone either way, and I had no opinion on which I thought it might be. Considering that the picture didn’t contain any identifying attributes, nothing about it suggested that it depicted Rep. Weiner at all, except for it being on his Twitter thread. I wanted to wait for a response from Weiner, and given the fact that this happened over a holiday weekend, I kept an open mind about the possibilities.

Weiner’s response seems odd under the circumstances. It might be that Weiner is still telling the truth and just believes this will blow over with the “hacking” explanation and a stonewall strategy from him, but if so, it’s not a safe bet that it will work. The mainstream press seems to be getting pretty curious about Weiner’s Twitter habits, and that may or may not go away with a lack of response from Weiner. One would expect some pretty emphatic denials from a wronged politician, including a demand to track down the culprits of a political dirty trick. A “let’s move along, nothing to see here” attitude at least suggests that Weiner isn’t terribly anxious for an investigation, which raises questions of its own.

I’ve been following the story at Ace’s place this weekend, and I’d recommend readers continue to follow the course of the story there (as well as Big Journalism, which reported it first, and our friends at Verum Serum). I’m still not convinced much of any particular explanation, but Weiner’s response raises a lot more questions than it doesn’t answer.

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No, I think we shan’t. Why the double standard, media?

Fallon on May 31, 2011 at 4:44 PM

They are waiting for Drudge to break another cigar story wide open for them.

Plausible deniability in the leftist circles they run in.

Roy Rogers on May 31, 2011 at 4:46 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_address_spoofing

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 4:44 PM

FBI can trace the traffic anyway.

And the more advanced hacker attack, the more important to figure out who and why.

the_nile on May 31, 2011 at 4:49 PM

You’re completely clueless, if someone external hacked/accessed his twitter account you can trace from which IP address it was done.
It’s damn easy. And the fact that weiner dont want the FBI to investigate it shows he’s guilty as f**k, as he knows he did it.
the_nile

Indeed, incredibly easy to check, Nile. Same as with who uploaded the pic. As you said, most people are totally cluelesss when it comes to such things – they likely don’t even know that when they visit HotAir that their IP address is logged. (For the clueless: “IP address” = your PC/device & location)

whatcat on May 31, 2011 at 4:50 PM

(For the clueless: “IP address” = your PC/device & location)

whatcat on May 31, 2011 at 4:50 PM

An IP address can only be tied to a customer account by checking the ISP logs. That would likely go to a cable modem or some such. Several computers can assigned the same IP address, as happens with port forwarding.

What I don’t know is the authentication protocol twitter uses can how easy it would be to fool that using mailformed packets that give the wrong return IP address.

That is beside the point, because it is up to Wiener to decide if he wants the FBI all up in his business. I would think conservatives would respect people’s right to choose not to be investigated.

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 4:56 PM

FBI can trace the traffic anyway.
the_nile on May 31, 2011 at 4:49 PM

Yup, ask the thug who hacked Palin’s email. There are sites such as this that (safely) demonstrate how much info a person delivers just by visiting a page:
Privacy Net – Analyze Your Internet Connection
and that’s just a cursory look – the Feds can be a just a bit more curious.

whatcat on May 31, 2011 at 4:56 PM

(For the clueless: “IP address” = your PC/device & location)

whatcat on May 31, 2011 at 4:50 PM

What fun is there being both a liberal AND a useless idiot?

Everyone defending this bastion of Liberal Socialism supports his right to harass teenage girls. Somehow they must have been “asking” for it.

Roy Rogers on May 31, 2011 at 4:56 PM

Yup, ask the thug who hacked Palin’s email. There are sites such as this that (safely) demonstrate how much info a person delivers just by visiting a page:
Privacy Net – Analyze Your Internet Connection
and that’s just a cursory look – the Feds can be a just a bit more curious.

whatcat on May 31, 2011 at 4:56 PM

They guy didn’t hack Palin’s account. He guessed the password, and there were probably hundreds of others trying also, so he probably just got lucky. That is far below the level of even a script kiddie. Someone who is even slightly more proficient could easily have sniffed Wieners password using firedog when Wiener was on the road.

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 5:02 PM

That is beside the point, because it is up to Wiener to decide if he wants the FBI all up in his business. I would think conservatives would respect people’s right to choose not to be investigated.

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 4:56 PM

Your obviously a moby. They claim the right is behind this in some way, but they dont want to prove it.They just want to have the allegation out there.

the_nile on May 31, 2011 at 5:04 PM

An IP address can only be tied to a customer account by checking the ISP logs. That would likely go to a cable modem or some such. Several computers can assigned the same IP address, as happens with port forwarding.

The Feds (or just about anybody in LE) can very easily and quickly check that out. And I suspect they are just a tad more knowledgeable and have access to just a few more resources than you or I.

whatcat on May 31, 2011 at 5:08 PM

They guy didn’t hack Palin’s account. He guessed the password, and there were probably hundreds of others trying also, so he probably just got lucky. That is far below the level of even a script kiddie. Someone who is even slightly more proficient could easily have sniffed Wieners password using firedog when Wiener was on the road.

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 5:02 PM

Don’t need a weiner-sized conspiracy theory when the simpler explanations works just as well – the guy sent a pic of his weiner to some hot chick he was following.

pearson on May 31, 2011 at 5:08 PM

I would think conservatives would respect people’s right to choose not to be investigated.

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 4:56 PM

Debbie is that you???

Is this another example of those evil conservatives daring to call a crime an illegal activity???

How dare they!!! (sarc)

Roy Rogers on May 31, 2011 at 5:09 PM

Your obviously a moby. They claim the right is behind this in some way, but they dont want to prove it.They just want to have the allegation out there.

the_nile on May 31, 2011 at 5:04 PM

I have no idea what a moby is. All I know is I’m someone who doesn’t think that the job of the FBI is to dissect people’s computers every time the mob decides they think someone’s body language is wrong for the particular accusation that results from an attack on that person.

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 5:09 PM

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 4:56 PM

A hacker may try that, but the event will be detected and logged. The perp will be tracked, arrested and prosecuted.

Among the software engineering position’s I have held are several that required me to perform testing of sites and servers using that sort of attack.

If someone lucky guessed Weiner’s password they too should be arrested and prosecuted, even id it was done by a member of his family as a joke.

He’s a federal official. Hacking his account is a federal offense.

As much as he would like to sweep the matter aside, he can’t. A serious crime has been committed and the perpetrator must be brought to justice.

dogsoldier on May 31, 2011 at 5:10 PM

Is this another example of those evil conservatives daring to call a crime an illegal activity???

How dare they!!! (sarc)

Roy Rogers on May 31, 2011 at 5:09 PM

So if Weiner did it, what crime has been committed?

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 5:11 PM

So if Weiner did it, what crime has been committed?

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 5:11 PM

According to Weiner, he was hacked.

pearson on May 31, 2011 at 5:13 PM

They guy didn’t hack Palin’s account.
pedestrian

You’re desperately playing with semantics in your defense of Weiner’s sexting. Exit question for you: did LE catch the Palin mail hacker? (use whatever term, if “hacker” upsets you)

whatcat on May 31, 2011 at 5:13 PM

According to Weiner, he was hacked.

pearson on May 31, 2011 at 5:13 PM

A federal offense, if memory serves. Even more serious when it’s an elected official.

whatcat on May 31, 2011 at 5:15 PM

A serious crime has been committed and the perpetrator must be brought to justice.

dogsoldier on May 31, 2011 at 5:10 PM

Possibly, another possibility is it was a prank from a young staffer who had the hots for that student. Wiener can’t make the charge publicly, because he doesn’t know who it was and really doesn’t care, perhaps because it was intended to be a private communication and he wants to preserve a level of comfort among young staff members on a high stress, low paid job.

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 5:15 PM

While Ed may have only now opined on the “controversy de-jour” surrounding Weiners weiner. I have seen several posts and links to this story right here on HA over the past few days. I don’t think we necessarily need Ed’s or Allah’s take on things in order to form our own opinions. So, who cares if Ed has a -so what- view of this story. We’re all talking about now, it aren’t we?

[glennbo on May 31, 2011 at 4:33 PM]

You haven’t seen posts. You’ve seen headline links that contain excerpts. Posts have the bloggers opinion in it. That’s the difference.

Ed, Tina, and AP sell this site as Hot Air, not Namby-Pamby Assessment of Mundane MSM Front Page News. We’re just the Blowback and mean very little to the recognition they receive other than their resulting traffic, which they then use as a selling point for importance. But what are they selling that as days, weeks and years go by?

That’s right. The two, now three, are selling their opinions; they are selling their voices as important in the arena of politics, etc. And that’s no different than the NYT. That’s why they do it, that’s why they promote themselves, that’s why they get quoted and linked.

That’s why AP’s or Ed’s or Tina’s opinion is important. What’s unsaid though is that they have become important because their opinions are good. That’s why I come here to read their posts. They are good posts. When they decline to do good reporting, I notice and will find it less important and will come here less.

Avoiding the hard stories means people will go elsewhere, to places they can trust to cover the hard stories. The easy stuff can be done by anyone.

Dusty on May 31, 2011 at 5:16 PM

So if Weiner did it, what crime has been committed?

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 5:11 PM

“So if Weiner did it…”

Shouldn’t you be banning the sale of all non-union made products?

Roy Rogers on May 31, 2011 at 5:16 PM

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 5:11 PM

Unsolicted sexually explicit photographs being sent to a female is automatically a crime of sexual harrasment in your world, isn’t it? It’s gotta be a felony! At the very least he must be driven from congress, as have a few Republicans guilty of much less!

dogsoldier on May 31, 2011 at 5:17 PM

A federal offense, if memory serves. Even more serious when it’s an elected official.

whatcat on May 31, 2011 at 5:15 PM

Yep, and Weiner is not willing to bring this hacker to justice. I guess Weiner doesn’t care that this hacker will go free to hack the accounts of other officials. He needs to man up and help the FBI track down the hacker.

pearson on May 31, 2011 at 5:17 PM

There’s something decidedly creepy about a 46 year old Congressman following the tweets of all those lithesome 18-20 year old women.

ProfessorMiao on May 31, 2011 at 5:17 PM

. Exit question for you: did LE catch the Palin mail hacker? (use whatever term, if “hacker” upsets you)

whatcat on May 31, 2011 at 5:13 PM

Yes, but only because the perp was a moron. A real hacker would be much harder to catch, which is why there are so many botnets out there.

According to Weiner, this was a prank, which suggests someone who had legitimate access to his twitter account.

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 5:19 PM

Wiener can’t make the charge publicly, because he doesn’t know who it was and really doesn’t care, perhaps because it was intended to be a private communication and he wants to preserve a level of comfort among young staff members on a high stress, low paid job.

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 5:15 PM

PUHLEEEZ!

Representative Chris Lee of New York, caught in the midst of a scandal involving a shirtless photo he reportedly e-mailed to a woman, has stepped down, according to a senior Congressional official.

Are you a paid tool or is this all volunteer work?

Roy Rogers on May 31, 2011 at 5:20 PM

The bottom line in all of this is:
How does this affect Tim Pawlenty?

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on May 31, 2011 at 5:20 PM

Possibly, another possibility is it was a prank from a young staffer who had the hots for that student. Wiener can’t make the charge publicly, because he doesn’t know who it was and really doesn’t care, perhaps because it was intended to be a private communication and he wants to preserve a level of comfort among young staff members on a high stress, low paid job.

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 5:15 PM

Ever hear of Occam’s Razor? Why do you prefer these convoluted and odd stories when “Weiner did it” is so much simpler at explaining all the facts? What part of Weiner-did-it is just sooo hard for you to accept?

pearson on May 31, 2011 at 5:20 PM

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 5:15 PM

Alas! The matter is not his to dispose. The FBI is required to investigate whether he likes it or not. Of course whther they do or not is an entirely different matter.

Weiner is a federal official. Willful misuse, hacking or obstruction of his accounts is a federal offense.

dogsoldier on May 31, 2011 at 5:21 PM

Pedestrian (I believe it’s DW-S) has made more excuses than Weiner!

I still want to see Obama’s school records.

Roy Rogers on May 31, 2011 at 5:22 PM

Unsolicted sexually explicit photographs being sent to a female is automatically a crime of sexual harrasment in your world, isn’t it?
dogsoldier on May 31, 2011 at 5:17 PM

The pic I saw was no more eplicit than a Abercrombie & Fitch ad. Those are disgusting when published, but they aren’t illegal. And when intended for a private communication and only accidently released, and quickly deleted, there’s nothing wrong with it. The main thing is that I expect the Weiner twitter account is more of a group account than a personal one that only Weiner has access to.

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 5:23 PM

They guy didn’t hack Palin’s account. pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 5:02 PM

The guy was accessing an account that didn’t belong to him, so it was still hacking. It doesn’t change what he did to say he did so by guessing the password.

zoyclem on May 31, 2011 at 5:23 PM

According to Weiner, this was a prank, which suggests someone who had legitimate access to his twitter account.

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 5:19 PM

No, Weiner originally claimed he was hacked. But when he figured out such an excuse would entail police involvement, it got down-graded to a prank. Weiner doesn’t want police involvement because he is lying. He is a dishonest little weiner.

pearson on May 31, 2011 at 5:24 PM

Roy Rogers on May 31, 2011 at 5:20 PM

And look at all the crap Scott Brown got! Remember a certain “toe tapping” incident involving another congress critter?

How many others?

dogsoldier on May 31, 2011 at 5:24 PM

The pic I saw was no more eplicit than a Abercrombie & Fitch ad. Those are disgusting when published, but they aren’t illegal. And when intended for a private communication and only accidently released, and quickly deleted, there’s nothing wrong with it.

But according to Weiner, that is not what happened. So are you admitting he is a liar?

The main thing is that I expect the Weiner twitter account is more of a group account than a personal one that only Weiner has access to.

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 5:23 PM

More kooky, convoluted thinking that raises more questions than answers. Occam’s Razor defeats you.

pearson on May 31, 2011 at 5:28 PM

How many others?

dogsoldier on May 31, 2011 at 5:24 PM

Perhaps pedestrian needs a Massa hug right now???

Roy Rogers on May 31, 2011 at 5:28 PM

I always pictured the two Hot Air mainstays as two of the characters from the original Bob Newhart show:
Ed = Mr. Peterson ; timid and reluctant to upset anyone.
AP = Mr. Carlin ; snarky and passively cynical.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on May 31, 2011 at 5:29 PM

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 5:23 PM

Wow you really are spinning like a top to defend this low life. If a republican did this you would be demanding, i say demanding (best foghorn voice) an investigation and that he resign from congress.

His changing story points to his guilt. Poor attempt with the group account idea. LOL!

Sexual harrasment isn’t a hate crime? Stop the presses.

Your guy is a predator maybe even a perv.

dogsoldier on May 31, 2011 at 5:29 PM

More kooky, convoluted thinking that raises more questions than answers.

pearson on May 31, 2011 at 5:28 PM

But DOES answer a few questions about pedestrians predilections.

Roy Rogers on May 31, 2011 at 5:30 PM

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on May 31, 2011 at 5:20 PM

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on May 31, 2011 at 5:29 PM

Good work. Agreed.

rrpjr on May 31, 2011 at 5:31 PM

But DOES answer a few questions about pedestrians predilections.

Roy Rogers on May 31, 2011 at 5:30 PM

Indeed. Pedestrian is like Weiner – either dishonest or stupid. Take your pick.

pearson on May 31, 2011 at 5:32 PM

Indeed. Pedestrian is like Weiner – either dishonest or stupid. Take your pick.

[pearson on May 31, 2011 at 5:32 PM]

I’ll take both, thank you very much.

Dusty on May 31, 2011 at 5:35 PM

I would think conservatives would respect people’s right to choose not to be investigated.

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 4:56 PM

Absolutely.

Just last week I was drunk and some nefarious “phone hacker” hacked my home phone, made calls pretending to be me to several of my ex-girlfriends trying for a “booty-call” or some such.

But let’s just accept that it wasn’t me, I wasn’t involved, I had nothing to do with it, I wasn’t harassing them, they have no grounds for complaint, and I have the right here not to have this “crime” investigated… even though my phone was totally hacked.

No really, I’m sure of it… what other explanation could there be? Those phone hackers are tricky, and this is just the sort of prank they’d pull.

Clearly I have the right to tell everyone to drop it and for this crime not to be investigated… everyone just need to trust that someone hacked the phone system to impersonate me and I had nothing to do with this.

Right Pedestrian? Or is this story somehow different now? Do they have some right to ask for a restraining order, harassment charges, etc.? I thought I had the right to fabricate a claim for a fictitious “crime” and then claim the right to avoid any investigation… don’t I?

Or do just politicians get that “right”?

Maybe I’m missing how conservatives are supposed to think here… could you clarify how this works?

gekkobear on May 31, 2011 at 5:38 PM

And when intended for a private communication and only accidently released, and quickly deleted, there’s nothing wrong with it.
pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 5:23 PM

Hooray, we have a new defense… it wasn’t a “hack”. It may have been someone else on a group account; but if you won’t buy that… it’s no big deal anyhow. Not like Chris lee’s pic on Cragislist without his shirt on… that was criminal and required he be removed from office immediately.

But a guy without his pants on, that’s ok… it’s only when you don;t have a shirt on that you must resign immediately.

Oh, and Chris Lee was married… exactly like Weiner… so lets pretend that has nothing to do with it. You must trust and respect a man who wants to send crotch-pics of himself to college-girls. But seriously question a guy with a shirtless pic on craigslist.

Why? …. Damn, what was that reason again?

Well we’ll let Pedestrian take over for me now; I’m sure there’s a perfectly good reason why this all makes sense, Chris Lee must be fired immediately, and Weiner must keep his job without question… and it has nothing to do with party affiliation… but I can’t recall offhand what that reason might be.

gekkobear on May 31, 2011 at 5:43 PM

And when intended for a private communication and only

accidently released, and quickly deleted, there’s nothing wrong with it

.

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 5:23 PM

The “Only A Little Bit Pregnant” defense.

Roy Rogers on May 31, 2011 at 5:46 PM

Someone hacked my Comment controls…

Roy Rogers on May 31, 2011 at 5:46 PM

Just last week I was drunk and some nefarious “phone hacker” hacked my home phone, made calls pretending to be me to several of my ex-girlfriends trying for a “booty-call” or some such.

gekkobear on May 31, 2011 at 5:38 PM

Twitter is not the equivalent of a home phone. It is a party line (for those who remember what those were) where presumably the neighbors like to play pranks on each other.

I haven’t parsed all of Wiener’s public statements for their technical precision about what transpired. What I do know is that all the statements attributed to Wiener are transcribed by reporters, whom my first hand experience is that they only roughly approximate what was actually said. Except there was one obviously sarcastic twitter about his Facebook and perhaps toaster being hacked, and that was sent well before this whole thing got out of hand.

I enjoying following the story and arguing about it, where I go off is when Ace issues a hysterical post about no one taking him seriously and that the right wing media conspiracy should focus on this instead of the real issues facing the country, such as the Palin summer bus tour.

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 5:50 PM

Have you seen Mrs. Weiner?

She’s beautiful. Tony, why?

eyesky on May 31, 2011 at 3:34 PM

Google “Huma Hillary”, and get hits like this, for example.

bofh on May 31, 2011 at 5:51 PM

I enjoying following the story and arguing about it, where I go off is when Ace issues a hysterical post about no one taking him seriously and that the right wing media conspiracy should focus on this instead of the real issues facing the country, such as the Palin summer bus tour.

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 5:50 PM

ALINSKY YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD! WE READ YOUR BOOK!

RULE 4: “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.”

Roy Rogers on May 31, 2011 at 5:55 PM

RULE 8: “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.”

Weiner roast

Roy Rogers on May 31, 2011 at 5:57 PM

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 5:23 PM

Now THAT’S the funniest thing I’ve read since some DU Kiddies “proved” the WTC bombing was an inside job, using chicken wire, newspaper, and a lighter!

MNHawk on May 31, 2011 at 5:58 PM

Hey Weinerhead … it didn’t work for Clinton. Or Edwards.

It’s not going to work for you.

Fess up and resign, you mutt.

moochy on May 31, 2011 at 5:58 PM

I enjoying following the story and arguing about it, where I go off is when Ace issues a hysterical post about no one taking him seriously and that the right wing media conspiracy should focus on this instead of the real issues facing the country, such as the Palin summer bus tour.

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 5:50 PM

LOL. Pedestrian is in no position to point fingers about “conspiracies” given that all of Pedestrian’s “arguments” to defend Weiner are convoluted and/or conspiratorial. What a hypocrite.

pearson on May 31, 2011 at 5:59 PM

Good Lord that man would be ugly for a Jim Henson puppet let alone a human being.

Sharke on May 31, 2011 at 6:00 PM

Hey Pedestrian,

Answer me one question.

What does it feel like to lose every argument?

pearson on May 31, 2011 at 6:00 PM

LOL. Pedestrian is in no position to point fingers about “conspiracies” given that all of Pedestrian’s “arguments” to defend Weiner are convoluted and/or conspiratorial. What a hypocrite.

pearson on May 31, 2011 at 5:59 PM

RULE 10: “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.”

THESE are the people who still believe in Hope and Change.

Roy Rogers on May 31, 2011 at 6:01 PM

Speaking of moving on…a FL congressman has now called for an investigation into #Weinergate citing a “national security concern”

http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/2011/05/florida-congressman-calls-for-investigation-into-weinergate/

we certainly can’t have any loose members out there now can we?

ted c on May 31, 2011 at 6:01 PM

OK, suppose you are the head of the FBI and Rep. Wiener calls you up and says “I’ve been framed!” What do you do?

a) Take agents away from important investigations to find out who send a coed a picture of a guy’s trunk.

b) Tell Rep. Wiener to change his passwords and if he wants a means of secure communications, change his passwords frequently and for God’s sake don’t even use twitter ever again.

It sounds like a lot of people here are demanding (a).

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 6:03 PM

we certainly can’t have any loose members out there now can we?

ted c on May 31, 2011 at 6:01 PM

OOORAH!!!

Roy Rogers on May 31, 2011 at 6:04 PM

OK, suppose you are the head of the FBI and Rep. Wiener calls you up and says “I’ve been framed!” What do you do?

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 6:03 PM

In this administration, you usually call Obama’s AG first to make sure there will be no FBI involvement.

It’s called a cover up.

The BEST way to make Weinergate look like Watergate.

Roy Rogers on May 31, 2011 at 6:05 PM

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 6:03 PM

What do you want on that dog?

Roy Rogers on May 31, 2011 at 6:06 PM

What does it feel like to lose every argument?

pearson on May 31, 2011 at 6:00 PM

A week from now if anyone even remembers this topic they will wonder why anyone would even think that twitter is a security risk to the United States of America and that every prank on it needs to be investigated by the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 6:08 PM

Speaking of moving on…a FL congressman has now called for an investigation into #Weinergate citing a “national security concern”

If a hacker was able to impersonate a congressmen, this is indeed a national security concern. We need to investigate to ensure this type of thing does not happen again, especially with something bigger than Weiner.

pearson on May 31, 2011 at 6:08 PM

a) Take agents away from important investigations to find out who send a coed a picture of a guy’s trunk.

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 6:03 PM

It’s not like they are investigating voter intimidation and Civil Rights crimes by the Black Panthers.

Roy Rogers on May 31, 2011 at 6:08 PM

The DC reiterates the congressman’s call for a looksee into the questionable member, er….the member’s questions….er…that dadgum tweeted dic, er PIC i meant!

http://dailycaller.com/2011/05/31/congressman-says-weinergate-cybersecurity-investigation-vital-in-order-to-ensure-our-national-security/

ted c on May 31, 2011 at 6:09 PM

A week from now if anyone even remembers this topic they will wonder why anyone would even think that twitter is a security risk to the United States of America and that every prank on it needs to be investigated by the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 6:08 PM

But your prank conspiracy has no evidence.

pearson on May 31, 2011 at 6:10 PM

If a hacker was able to impersonate a congressmen, this is indeed a national security concern. We need to investigate to ensure this type of thing does not happen again, especially with something bigger than Weiner.

pearson on May 31, 2011 at 6:08 PM

No one impersonated an a Congressman. Twitter is a goofy way to send short messages that are meant to amuse the recipient.

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 6:11 PM

this instead of the real issues facing the country, such as the Palin summer bus tour.

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 5:50 PM

First, I assume that is a snark. Second, I doubt if anything illegal happened, he was going to DM a women a pix but hit the wrong key. Third, this women is not at all attractive relative to his wife…so that’s efing weird right there.

Forth, we can’t use the Alinsky rules on the Left. For example, make them live up to their own rules. The Left has no rules in this area, therefore nothing hypocritical …they are slimy..and actually rather proud of it.

Finally, this pretty much seals the case IMHO

In a brief gaggle with reporters Tuesday, Weiner was asked directly if the photo was of him, but he refused to say.

and, i wondered if some bright bulb would think of this.

Florida Republican Rep. Cliff Stearns is demanding an investigation into cybersecurity issues raised by #Weinergate, saying it is vital to “ensure our national security.”

i don’t know about the nat. security angle…but congress should exercise interest even if the slimy guy tries to wiggle out.

http://dailycaller.com/2011/05/31/congressman-says-weinergate-cybersecurity-investigation-vital-in-order-to-ensure-our-national-security/#ixzz1NyEal5P4

http://dailycaller.com/2011/05/31/rep-anthony-weiner-refuses-to-say-if-lewd-twitter-photo-was-of-him/#ixzz1NyEGnlZv

r keller on May 31, 2011 at 6:12 PM

But if it turns out that Weiner is unwilling to allow an official, transparent investigation, then he can’t expect journalists to stop digging for the truth on their own. After all, the public has legitimate questions, and the media is only doing its job.
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2011/05/30/weiner-investigation-would-benefit-all-parties-involved/

ted c on May 31, 2011 at 6:13 PM

But your prank conspiracy has no evidence.

pearson on May 31, 2011 at 6:10 PM

Twitter makes no attempt to enforce SSL. Ipso facto it is no more secure than a grocery store bulletin board. Any congressman who thinks it affects national security should be laughed at.

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 6:15 PM

The Left has no rules in this area, therefore nothing hypocritical …they are slimy..and actually rather proud of it.
r keller on May 31, 2011 at 6:12 PM

right. When you have no standards, its pretty hard to fail to live up to them, right?

ted c on May 31, 2011 at 6:15 PM

I can assure you that I, in no way, had any (cyber) sexual relations, with that woman, Ms. Cordova….
/weiner’s hero

ted c on May 31, 2011 at 6:17 PM

pedestrian has no concept of cyberterror, or cybercrime.

Must be a liberal.

Roy Rogers on May 31, 2011 at 6:17 PM

Leave it to pedestrian to sniff out the true Weiner.

Roy Rogers on May 31, 2011 at 6:19 PM

My guess is that the Left/Press/Dim Machine will rally around their guy…but hopefully we will see less of him. (I mean on FNC)..and that he won’t run for nyc mayor so that means that he’ll just be another low congressional freak. That would be the best outcome…one more NY freak that is damaged goods…hopefully never to be see again except by his adoring voters

r keller on May 31, 2011 at 6:19 PM

[ted c on May 31, 2011 at 6:09 PM]

Well, at a minimum the House ought to hold hearings on the security precautions installed by Facebook, Twitter and yfrog, against hacking into accounts, whether for nefarious purposes or pranks.

There they can delve into the serious questions:

– how their systems work,
– the odds of someone hacking into all three at the same time if the accounts have different passwords,
– whether two people (or computers) can be logged into an account,
– how account holders can wrest their accounts away from a hacker,
– how easy it is to establish who hacked into it and what evidence the provider can present to law enforcement,
– if a person is hacked, can the account holder ask for and receive the information from the provider, or does the account holder have to ask a judge to order it, either in a civil lawsuit or via a criminal complaint.

There’s a lot more that would help, not only Weiner get some advice for ‘free’ and also to educate the public. The bottom line is there is no reason for the public to have to accept that they live in the condition, “These things happen. Move on.”

Dusty on May 31, 2011 at 6:21 PM

Roy Rogers on May 31, 2011 at 6:17 PM

THIS is cyberterror?

The one good that may come out of this is people realize that social media sites are put together by twenty somethings that stay up all night coding and drinking. Nothing you don’t want on the front page of the paper should ever go in them, and it is not worth the time to chase down the games that happen on them.

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 6:22 PM

Weiner told The New York Post that his office has “retained an attorney who is going to give us advice on this.” After reports first surfaced on the photo, Weiner spokesman Dave Arnold said the congressman’s accounts were “obviously hacked.”

Lawyering up

Roy Rogers on May 31, 2011 at 6:23 PM

Twitter makes no attempt to enforce SSL. Ipso facto it is no more secure than a grocery store bulletin board. Any congressman who thinks it affects national security should be laughed at.

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 6:15 PM

Are you saying you could post from Weiner’s account anytime your wanted to?

pearson on May 31, 2011 at 6:24 PM

Dusty on May 31, 2011 at 6:21 PM

If the sites don’t enforce the use SSL exclusively, then they are completely unsecure. End of investigation.

The guys who wrote firedog did so (ostensibly) to publicize that point. If you want something good to happen, make them re-write the internet to be secure, because it is very insecure right now.

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 6:25 PM

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 6:15 PM

hopefully congressmen are not stupid enough to tweet classified material. But…let me ask you pedestrian. Let’s pretend you have a twitter account, and someone is smart enough to hack it and ships out pix of nude guys aroused and hugging one another to all your friends, and the public. All under the name of Pedestrian’s Twitter acount (or FB for that matter). Now, would that give you a thrill up your leg? … I mean, especially if your account was in your real name?????

My guess is no, no thrill up your leg. Hacking is a real problem

r keller on May 31, 2011 at 6:26 PM

Weiner cops out, hires att’y

Just because a hacker broke into his Twitter account and sent a bawdy crotch photo to a co-ed is no reason to get the police involved, Rep. Anthony Weiner said yesterday.

Instead, “we have retained an attorney who is going to give us advice on this,” the six-term Queens Democrat told The Post outside his Forest Hills home.

Weiner said yesterday, “Look, you’ve got the Republicans . . . playing games with the debt limit. You’ve got a Supreme Court justice who is refusing to recuse himself despite conflicts of interest. We have a health-care act that is under siege. This is a distraction, I get it. I was hacked. It happens to people. You move on.”

VOILA! WEINERGATE!

Roy Rogers on May 31, 2011 at 6:27 PM

Are you saying you could post from Weiner’s account anytime your wanted to?

pearson on May 31, 2011 at 6:24 PM

I could visit a a coffeeshop near a rally where I expected a congressional staffer to send tweets or FB posts via WiFi. Then I could use firedog to impersonate them for as long as they didn’t change their password. Happens all the time.

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 6:27 PM

Does anyone have any video or quotes from Anthony Weiner on Mark Foley or Chris Lee? The compare/contrast would be illuminating if such records existed.

Mutnodjmet on May 31, 2011 at 6:28 PM

People who live in glass houses should not expose their Weiner in cyber space.

Roy Rogers on May 31, 2011 at 6:28 PM

No one impersonated an a Congressman. Twitter is a goofy way to send short messages that are meant to amuse the recipient.

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 6:11 PM

Huh? If someone other than Weiner sends a message using Weiner’s account, that is impersonation. It’s amusing to watch you spin so hard to keep from admitting the truth as highlighted by the Razor. You are trying so hard to come off like you are smart with your creative excuses. But you’re not really that smart, pedestrian.

pearson on May 31, 2011 at 6:29 PM

Let’s pretend you have a twitter account, and someone is smart enough to hack it and ships out pix of nude guys aroused and hugging one another to all your friends, and the public. All under the name of Pedestrian’s Twitter acount (or FB for that matter). Now, would that give you a thrill up your leg? … I mean, especially if your account was in your real name?????

My guess is no, no thrill up your leg. Hacking is a real problem

r keller on May 31, 2011 at 6:26 PM

I don’t log into non-SSL sites from public access points, and I convince my employers to use SSL only also. The fact that other people might be educated to do the same is a very good outcome from this.

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 6:33 PM

Then I could use firedog to impersonate them for as long as they didn’t change their password. Happens all the time.

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 6:27 PM

18 USC Section 2701
18 USC Section 1030(a)(2)
18 USC Section 1030(a)(2)(C)
18 USC Section 1030(a)(2)(B)(ii)

Go to jail. Do not pass go. Do not collect your welfare check.

Roy Rogers on May 31, 2011 at 6:34 PM

I could visit a a coffeeshop near a rally where I expected a congressional staffer to send tweets or FB posts via WiFi. Then I could use firedog to impersonate them for as long as they didn’t change their password. Happens all the time.

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 6:27 PM

LOL. And why exactly is this more likely to be true than Weiner sending his weiner pic (privately, he thinks) to a busty college girl he is following?

That happens far more often than your spy story, pedestrian.

Checkmate. You lose.

pearson on May 31, 2011 at 6:34 PM

If the sites don’t enforce the use SSL exclusively, then they are completely unsecure. End of investigation.

The guys who wrote firedog did so (ostensibly) to publicize that point. If you want something good to happen, make them re-write the internet to be secure, because it is very insecure right now.

[pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 6:25 PM]

That’s bull and you know it. Even without SSL, they have the data to show the IP that accessed the account.

But yeah, that would the end of the investigation becuase Weiner would be shown to be the liar he is.

Whether he’d resign would be the start of the next story, unless the provider, ie, Twitter, provided all the data in the timeline, in which case the start of the next story would be,”Why the dozens of messages sent from Weiner’s account that weren’t public just prior the pic going up? (re: lots of DM xxx-chat?!?)

Dusty on May 31, 2011 at 6:34 PM

But you’re not really that smart, pedestrian.

pearson on May 31, 2011 at 6:29 PM

pedestrian is demonstrating “Tabula in naufragio”

Just another plank in Obama’s shipwreck.

Roy Rogers on May 31, 2011 at 6:36 PM

Even without SSL, they have the data to show the IP that accessed the account.

Dusty on May 31, 2011 at 6:34 PM

Possibly, but who cares? Wiener doesn’t, because he knows that if he obsessed about this he will look ridiculous. People don’t want their representatives to spend their time in silly he-said-she-said twitter games.

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 6:38 PM

Let’s watch how pedestrian makes things up as he/she goes along:

No one impersonated an a Congressman. Twitter is a goofy way to send short messages that are meant to amuse the recipient.

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 6:11 PM

Compare to:

I could visit a a coffeeshop near a rally where I expected a congressional staffer to send tweets or FB posts via WiFi. Then I could use firedog to impersonate them for as long as they didn’t change their password. Happens all the time.

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 6:27 PM

It took pedestrian a whole 16 minutes to contradict him/herself.

pearson on May 31, 2011 at 6:39 PM

Go to jail. Do not pass go. Do not collect your welfare check.

Roy Rogers on May 31, 2011 at 6:34 PM

Anyone who depends on that for security is a fool.

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 6:40 PM

I don’t log into non-SSL sites from public access points, and I convince my employers to use SSL only also. The fact that other people might be educated to do the same is a very good outcome from this.

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 6:33 PM

So, does Weiner have an action to take against Twitter???? I don’t know the legal terms but running an outfit that is so easily hacked resulting in damaging people’s reputations is pretty sloppy business practices. Maybe Weiner should ask for hearing on Twitter’s SSL practices. He’s a wronged man…probably pretty mad….right?

r keller on May 31, 2011 at 6:42 PM

It took pedestrian a whole 16 minutes to contradict him/herself.

pearson on May 31, 2011 at 6:39 PM

The twitter in question was of a guy’s shorts. If you think that is impersonating a congressman and the FBI needs to investigate that, OK then.

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 6:42 PM

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 6:03 PM

C. Your Job.

If Weiner sent unsolicited explicit photographs to a anyone, he must be brought up on ethics charges in the house, does he not?

If his account was hacked the perp must be caught and punished. We cant have anyone lying to investigators can we? (Scooter Libby)

The evidence collected so far indicates the Rep did the deed. He may consider his actions a prank. I don’t.

He’s a disgusting twerp.

dogsoldier on May 31, 2011 at 6:42 PM

Possibly, but who cares? Wiener doesn’t, because he knows that if he obsessed about this he will look ridiculous. People don’t want their representatives to spend their time in silly he-said-she-said twitter games.

[pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 6:38 PM]

And you’re telling us something we don’t already know? You’re back to where your entered. First you were on ‘he was hacked’, now you are back to ‘he sent it himself’. Make up your mind, please.

Dusty on May 31, 2011 at 6:43 PM

If Weiner sent unsolicited explicit photographs to a anyone, he must be brought up on ethics charges in the house, does he not?

dogsoldier on May 31, 2011 at 6:42 PM

It is not an explitcit pic: http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSG5CvOGiwiUr7FZcLtRPzApB-CEWvR60HGp6THdVZvvj9s8uahtQ

That’s is what the uproar is about. A married man should not send that to a coed, fine. But only Wiener and the perp, if it is a different person, know the real story. There are so many unknowns that it is foolish to jump to conclusions. As for security risks, I’m sure there are far more important ones for the FBI to worry about right now. The one good thing they could do is to get everyone to use SSL.

pedestrian on May 31, 2011 at 6:49 PM

First you were on ‘he was hacked’, now you are back to ‘he sent it himself’. Make up your mind, please.

Dusty on May 31, 2011 at 6:43 PM

For pedestrian to make up his mind would undercut his objective. He simply blowing a smokescreen to protect Weiner.

pearson on May 31, 2011 at 6:50 PM

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