The summer of GOP discontent

posted at 7:05 pm on May 31, 2011 by Tina Korbe

Recent days have marked major moves to recruit new candidates to the 2012 GOP presidential field. Today, for example, Iowa bigwigs met with New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie to try convince him to run for president. A DC-area communications investor and Nevada lawyer recently launched DraftRyanNow.com, a website that aims to prompt House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan to run for president.

On one level, it makes sense. These men would, after all, bring executive effectiveness and intellectual heft to the primaries. Both are matter-of-fact articulators of difficult messages. They’d be great on a debate stage. Plus, similar past efforts to enlist new candidates have proved effective. Texas Gov. Rick Perry had no professed interest in the GOP presidential nomination — and then he did. And didn’t PalinforVP.blogspot.com help Sarah Palin’s rise to prominence in 2008?

But on another level, I sort of just want to say: Leave Christie and Ryan alone. To me, part of their appeal is that I can take them at their word. If they flip on this — if either decides to run when he’s said he won’t (Christie especially, as his opposition has been far more forcefully stated) — they’ll lose a little of that appeal. A reputation for honesty is rare and wonderful in the world of politics: Why would anyone want Christie or Ryan to give that up?


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I sort of just want to say: Leave Christie and Ryan alone.

Tina & Christie/Ryan sitting in a tree…../

portlandon on May 31, 2011 at 7:07 PM

Yet, on the other hand, some are called to greatness.

OldEnglish on May 31, 2011 at 7:08 PM

+Looks like the good old boys are looking for someone who has popular support who they can manage into being their candidate.

bigmike on May 31, 2011 at 7:10 PM

Looks like the poster for THE HANGOVER 3.

profitsbeard on May 31, 2011 at 7:11 PM

Iowa bigwigs meeting with Christie AGAIN?! Either the same meeting has been reported every day for the last 2 weeks or its high time Christie filed a stalking complaint.

Kataklysmic on May 31, 2011 at 7:11 PM

Way to early for that, Tina. The circus demands food. Think of it like the Roman Forum after someone chucked the first rock. Sad, but true, American politics are the stuff of yellow/black/white/brown/red journalism.

No headline? We’ll make one!

Limerick on May 31, 2011 at 7:12 PM

Christ Christie and Paul Ryan are RINOs!!!!

Helllllo?

NO MO RINOS!!!

PappyD61 on May 31, 2011 at 7:12 PM

B-b-but, they don’t have any operations on the ground in Iowa or NH! How could they be taken seriously?

Sincerely,
The Establishment

John the Libertarian on May 31, 2011 at 7:13 PM

O/T:

Breaking: House says no to raising debt ceiling 318-97. All Republicans and 82 Democrats voted NO.

Rovin on May 31, 2011 at 7:13 PM

Rovin on May 31, 2011 at 7:13 PM

COOL BEANS!

cmsinaz on May 31, 2011 at 7:14 PM

O/T:

Breaking: House says no to raising debt ceiling 318-97. All Republicans and 82 Democrats voted NO.

Rovin on May 31, 2011 at 7:13 PM

Thanks for the update Rovin. I assume AP is working on a post now on this. Important and good news!

conservative pilgrim on May 31, 2011 at 7:15 PM

Agree with Tina.

I have more respect for people who say they are “undecided” and then run, than people who say they “won’t run” and then do.

Besides, all these “Draft Candidate X” movements are pretty pathetic. If you need to be drafted, you probably don’t have what it takes to run in the first place. Additionally, it hurt our side by feeding into the “Weak Field” meme.

Norwegian on May 31, 2011 at 7:16 PM

These men would, after all, bring executive effectiveness and intellectual heft

Ryan worked during college for the Oscar Meyer company as a Wienermobile driver.

Emperor Norton on May 31, 2011 at 7:16 PM

Jeez, what will it take to get it through these fools thick skulls?
Christie’s not a conservative!

single stack on May 31, 2011 at 7:19 PM

Rovin on May 31, 2011 at 7:13 PM

The house votes down the debt ceiling bill 318-97, the senate rejects the WH budget 97-0, what’s a boy wonder president to do?

predator on May 31, 2011 at 7:19 PM

These men would, after all, bring executive effectiveness and intellectual heft to the primaries.

No. Ryan has no executive experience, only legislative. Christie has been primarily a lawyer, and more recently a governor for less than two years. Hardly executive heavy weights.

conservative pilgrim on May 31, 2011 at 7:20 PM

Christie’s not a conservative!

single stack on May 31, 2011 at 7:19 PM

That’s why the establishment gop wants him.

predator on May 31, 2011 at 7:20 PM

predator on May 31, 2011 at 7:19 PM

i’m afraid of another EO

*shudder*

cmsinaz on May 31, 2011 at 7:22 PM

Levin lit into the self-inflated fake Christie and the GOP poobahs paying court in NJ. Blistering.

rrpjr on May 31, 2011 at 7:24 PM

Breaking: House says no to raising debt ceiling 318-97. All Republicans and 82 Democrats voted NO.

Rovin on May 31, 2011 at 7:13 PM

Good news, but I fear they won’t hold the line just ask for a higher price for caving.

sharrukin on May 31, 2011 at 7:25 PM

If only there was a Draft Duncan Hunter 2012 campaign. No thanks on CC and PR is right where we need him.

fourdeucer on May 31, 2011 at 7:26 PM

i’m afraid of another EO

*shudder*

cmsinaz on May 31, 2011 at 7:22 PM

Hmmm. Not sure he can do an EO on the budget or the ceiling, but if there’s a way he may try. And yeah, ditto on the “shudder” if he does try.

predator on May 31, 2011 at 7:28 PM

fourdeucer on May 31, 2011 at 7:26 PM

i like him…

cmsinaz on May 31, 2011 at 7:28 PM

Why would anyone want Christie or Ryan to give that up?

I dunno. Because their country needs them, maybe?

troyriser_gopftw on May 31, 2011 at 7:28 PM

None of these Draft Process will work

Christie has no desire to be president, he would lose too much power

Ryan wants to see his dream plan passed, he can be more effective at getting that done in congress than as president, Ryan might go for a Senate Seat next if he leaves the House

the_ancient on May 31, 2011 at 7:29 PM

predator on May 31, 2011 at 7:28 PM

if he can, he will…guaranteed

cmsinaz on May 31, 2011 at 7:29 PM

Thanks for the O/T at 7:13 pm, Rovin.

Look at how our American tax dollars are being spent to aid education…in Indonesia. USAid will be sending $90 million for education programs there, much of it going to Muslim schools.
http://www.tradeaidmonitor.com/2011/05/obama-administration-millions-indonesian-education-islamic.html

onlineanalyst on May 31, 2011 at 7:31 PM

fourdeucer on May 31, 2011 at 7:26 PM

Imagine this scenario:

Palin, Bachmann, Cain, Hunter, and Perry all announce they are running and all decide to go on bus tours with no advanced itinerary. And all head out in different directions. The media circus would be a hoot.

predator on May 31, 2011 at 7:33 PM

predator on May 31, 2011 at 7:33 PM

I’d opt in for pay-per-view for that.

Limerick on May 31, 2011 at 7:34 PM

Why are the “Iowa Bigwigs” wasting their time with Christie? After all, he has been quite adamant in his refusal to run for president, suggesting at one time that he might need to commit suicide to convince those whoe are urging him to run.

Why not have the “Iowa Bigwigs” use whatever influence they have to convince Gov. Rick Perry to run. He has far more experience than Christie, having been governor for over 10 years. He presides over a state that has no state income tax, is nationally recognized as the most business friendly state in the USA and is the only state to add jobs in 2010.

Rick Perry is a powerful speaker and both a social and economic conservative.. What more do Republicans want or need in a presidential candidate?

RUDYJ on May 31, 2011 at 7:35 PM

RUDYJ on May 31, 2011 at 7:35 PM

Because the ‘Iowa Bigwigs’ know the gardner’s neice of the network journalists cabbie.

Limerick on May 31, 2011 at 7:37 PM

What does a comm director, a lawyer and a “big wig” have to do with the GOP???

i.e. some random dudes with money who vote Rep are trying to get people they like to run for President.

Thats not the “GOP”…

Odie1941 on May 31, 2011 at 7:37 PM

I’d opt in for pay-per-view for that.

Limerick on May 31, 2011 at 7:34 PM

Media expenses for travel and lodging–$$$$$$.

Cost of coverage on the networks and cable–$$$$$$.

Entertainment value–priceless.

predator on May 31, 2011 at 7:38 PM

Rovin on May 31, 2011 at 7:13 PM

GREAT news, thanks!

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on May 31, 2011 at 7:38 PM

predator on May 31, 2011 at 7:33 PM

LOL! Not to mention “dangerous” /sarc

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on May 31, 2011 at 7:39 PM

predator on May 31, 2011 at 7:33 PM

What a great day it would be.

fourdeucer on May 31, 2011 at 7:40 PM

Pshaw. That they are hesitant to abandon their existing posts (cough ** Palin ** cough) is admirable. That they would approach candidacy with trepidation is smart. That they might be convinced otherwise that their country needs them and they might serve their country better by considering the post doesn’t make them flip-floppers.

It would take changing their position on issues like, say, abortion, or, hmmmm, universal healthcare (right Willard?), or the Iraq war to make them flip-floppers.

Pablo Snooze on May 31, 2011 at 7:41 PM

predator on May 31, 2011 at 7:28 PM

if he can, he will…guaranteed

cmsinaz on May 31, 2011 at 7:29 PM

I really don’t think he’s that gutsy this close to an election. He’ll vote present and try to hang it around the necks of the R’s.

txhsmom on May 31, 2011 at 7:41 PM

LOL! Not to mention “dangerous” /sarc

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on May 31, 2011 at 7:39 PM

Heh.

“Those evil conservatives are endangering our lives and the public safety by making us act like paperazzi morons!”–The LSM.

predator on May 31, 2011 at 7:44 PM

txhsmom on May 31, 2011 at 7:41 PM

hope you are right

cmsinaz on May 31, 2011 at 7:50 PM

Ever been in a convoy?

The leader is doing 65, the tail is doing 90. The Keystone Cops and Buster Keaton couldn’t have scripted this better.

Limerick on May 31, 2011 at 7:53 PM

On one level, it makes sense.

And on another level, one that I find far more compelling, it make no sense. Both Ryan and Christie, and I’d add John Huntsman into the mix, have risen in stature precisely because they have done their job as they said they would. They were prepared, and committed to doing that job. But in all three cases, none involved being President.

I’ve no doubt that all three could become compelling candidates, but only Huntsman has chosen to give up his day job. Getting either Ryan or Christie to dump their day job weakens the right because it would necessarily pull them out of jobs that both are excelling in. And one of the most important issues that faces our nation is our unfunded entitlements. Both Ryan and Christie are proving that you can successfully combat this issue at all levels.

bains on May 31, 2011 at 8:07 PM

Let Christie run, so he can be exposed as the fraud he is.

wheelgun on May 31, 2011 at 8:20 PM

Ryan is more important where he is.

ladyingray on May 31, 2011 at 8:22 PM

Ryan and Christie are relatively effective where they are.

Anyone wanting them to do something else is trying to take them away from places where they can do some good… look at the people doing the courting and drafting, they are dangerous not to recognize that.

ajacksonian on May 31, 2011 at 8:25 PM

If only there was a Draft Duncan Hunter 2012 campaign. No thanks on CC and PR is right where we need him.

fourdeucer on May 31, 2011 at 7:26 PM

He ran in 2008. You can be forgiven if you forgot about his campaign; almost everyone else did about 10 minutes after the first debate.

Hollowpoint on May 31, 2011 at 8:27 PM

These men would, after all, bring executive effectiveness and intellectual heft

Ryan worked during college for the Oscar Meyer company as a Wienermobile driver.

Emperor Norton on May 31, 2011 at 7:16 PM

And therefore, what?

Sowell Disciple on May 31, 2011 at 8:32 PM

I’m against all of the “draft X” movements. Not because I don’t think the indidviduals would be good candidates or Presidents (although in Christie’s case I have my doubts), but because of that whole “fire in the belly” thing (God, I hate that phrase).

If someone has to be dragged in to the race for President, how enthusiastic a campaigner do you really think they’ll be?

Campaigning for President has become a 18-hour a day/7 day a week/1 year+ long proposition. You want someone to do that who actually wants to do that.

Clearly that description does NOT fit Christie, Ryan, or Perry.

We have the hand we’re dealt. It’s time to play with it, and stop whining about the cards we don’t have.

Chris of Rights on May 31, 2011 at 8:37 PM

Rick Perry is a powerful speaker and both a social and economic conservative.. What more do Republicans want or need in a presidential candidate?

RUDYJ on May 31, 2011 at 7:35 PM

I don’t know much about him, but I think that Perry would deserve serious consideration if he runs. With Romney and Pawlenty being the only top tier entries in the race so far, he could be a contender if he performed well on the campaign trail.

Hollowpoint on May 31, 2011 at 8:40 PM

But on another level, I sort of just want to say: Leave Christie and Ryan alone.

So far, no GOP candidate has effectively argued for entitlement reform and Romney can’t be trusted if he ever claims to support it (which he hasn’t). If Ryan won’t climb into the arena and defend his ideas no one else will either. So, whether he likes it or not (and notwithstanding your touching wish for us to leave him alone) Ryan absolutely has to get in the race, and he made that decision the minute he introduced his plan.

MTF on May 31, 2011 at 8:48 PM

predator on May 31, 2011 at 7:44 PM

Well, we’ve always known that libs/MSM don’t believe in personal responsibilty and love the “devil made me do it” excuse.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on May 31, 2011 at 8:54 PM

Jeez, what will it take to get it through these fools thick skulls?
Christie’s not a conservative!

single stack on May 31, 2011 at 7:19 PM

thank you. Christie (who has been the darling of the NJ establishment RINOS for years) has annoyed me for a long time and I almost didn’t even vote for him. But I couldn’t stand Corzine. Christie has done a couple things right and I am happy for that. But he will disappoint the conservatives on this website big time, if he goes national.

Elisa on May 31, 2011 at 9:35 PM

A reputation for honesty is rare and wonderful in the world of politics: Why would anyone want Christie or Ryan to give that up?

I think that would be much truer for Christie than Ryan. Ryan has maintained that he’s not planing to run for president. He’d have a legitimate reason to run if no one picks up the mantle for solving the debt crisis. He could easily say he doesn’t want to, but has to because the country is in peril.

Here’s another thing regarding these two guys: Who doesn’t love a reluctant statesman?

cpaulus on May 31, 2011 at 9:41 PM

Yea let’s nominate Paul Ryan, the genius making the budget who doesn’t understand the term “full employment”.

Rainsford on May 31, 2011 at 9:56 PM

I’m still watching Ryan … but Christie, NO Farkin’ way!

We don’t need no more stinkin’ Rino’s.

ORrighty on May 31, 2011 at 10:40 PM

Christie is a nasty overbearing liberal who hates teacher’s unions and likes abortion ect. A Trojan Horse with a Greek made tail is still a deadly Trojan Horse.

Honesty? God told us that even if Satan were to tell us the truth we must agree with it, But, only the most foolhardy would ever confuse Satan with God.

On the other hand, Faux messiahs…well…

Don L on June 1, 2011 at 5:38 AM

Christie is a nasty overbearing liberal who hates teacher’s unions and likes abortion ect. A Trojan Horse with a Greek made tail is still a deadly Trojan Horse.

Honesty? God told us that even if Satan were to tell us the truth we must agree with it, But, only the most foolhardy would ever confuse Satan with God.

On the other hand, Faux messiahs…well…

Don L on June 1, 2011 at 5:38 AM

Jeez, hyperbole much?

rockmom on June 1, 2011 at 7:50 AM