Fail: House defeats Obama request to raise the debt ceiling, 318-97

posted at 7:44 pm on May 31, 2011 by Allahpundit

Why would the GOP bring it to the floor knowing that they had more than enough votes to kill it? Simple: To make the Democrats choke on it, of course. The public is on the GOP’s side of this issue, unambiguously, and with plenty of independent support, so this was Boehner’s way of twisting a few center-left arms and building negotiating leverage for spending cuts with Obama.

Mission accomplished:

The Republican-controlled House voted 318-97 on the legislation that would have raised the federal government’s debt limit by approximately $2.4 trillion.

Under rules for the vote set by the GOP leadership, the measure needed at least two-thirds support to pass, ensuring it had no chance for approval.

The vote was scheduled by Republican leaders to show that any attempt to divorce an increase in the debt ceiling from spending reduction efforts — a move initially favored by the Obama White House — cannot win congressional approval.

Democrats called the move a dangerous political stunt that could rattle financial markets.

I don’t know why they imposed the two-thirds requirement. There was no chance that the Republican majority would let the bill would pass; raising the bar only gives Democrats who voted “no” an out with their base by letting them claim that the process was rigged to guarantee failure and therefore they felt no obligation to vote yes. Anyway, here’s the roll. Fully 82 Democrats voted with the GOP — among them Pelosi, Hoyer, and … DNC chief Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, which is all the proof you need of how nervous the White House is about being on the wrong side of this issue. More background from Philip Klein:

Just last month, 114 Democrats signed a letter calling for a “clean” vote and Democratic Minority Whip Rep. Steny Hoyer, D-Md., also advocated one. But today, Hoyer announced he was advising his caucus to vote against the measure. Ultimately, just 97 Democrats voted for it, with 82 explicitly voting against it (on top of the seven “present” votes). A total of 10 members (six Democrats, four Republicans) did not vote.

That’s a smart play by Pelosi and Hoyer to take some of the heat off of the centrists by framing their votes as simply doing the leadership’s bidding. Exit question: Seven Democrats voted “present,” presumably to signal their displeasure at what was, ultimately, a stunt. Why didn’t the others?


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oouchhhh

how do they spin THIS one??

Drunk Report on May 31, 2011 at 7:46 PM

There is no more money to spend. Make do with the trillions you have.

Emperor Norton on May 31, 2011 at 7:48 PM

Heh :)

gophergirl on May 31, 2011 at 7:48 PM

good.

RealMc on May 31, 2011 at 7:49 PM

Wisconsin recall watch:

6 Republican State Senators

0 Democrats State Senators.

tetriskid on May 31, 2011 at 7:50 PM

Slowly but surely, the whole country wiil come around to the fact that we are broke and must reign in the spending.

Mirimichi on May 31, 2011 at 7:51 PM

dippity-do said nay?

cmsinaz on May 31, 2011 at 7:51 PM

Why didn’t the others?

Because even Donkies know the wind is blowing.

Limerick on May 31, 2011 at 7:51 PM

In a rational world, markets would rally on the news that the debit ceiling wasn’t being raised.

Count to 10 on May 31, 2011 at 7:51 PM

We will take the little victories when we can.

NickDeringer on May 31, 2011 at 7:52 PM

Fail: House defeats Obama request to raise the debt ceiling, 318-97

Yahoo!

*clinking glasses all around*

cmsinaz on May 31, 2011 at 7:53 PM

Democrats called the move a dangerous political stunt that could rattle financial markets.

But spending our way into oblivion is sound fiscal policy. From the mouths of idiots to our ear’s, hope America is listening.

skanter on May 31, 2011 at 7:53 PM

The Republican-controlled House voted 318-97 on the legislation that would have raised the federal government’s debt limit by approximately $2.4 trillion.

Under rules for the vote set by the GOP leadership, the measure needed at least two-thirds support to pass, ensuring it had no chance for approval.

It wouldn’t have mustered a simple majority.

amerpundit on May 31, 2011 at 7:54 PM

hope it was all progressives voting for.

tim c on May 31, 2011 at 7:54 PM

Glad we got that out of the way. This was distracting Weiner from answering Weinergate questions.

Chuck Schick on May 31, 2011 at 7:54 PM

In a rational world, markets would rally on the news that the debit ceiling wasn’t being raised.

Count to 10 on May 31, 2011 at 7:51 PM

In a rational world, BHO would still be a community organizer.

predator on May 31, 2011 at 7:54 PM

Political Posturing plain and simple.

PappyD61 on May 31, 2011 at 7:56 PM

fixed link

Sarah Palin, Donald Trump Meet In New York City Tuesday Night

Nearly Nobody on May 31, 2011 at 7:56 PM

Exit question: Seven Democrats voted “present,” presumably to signal their displeasure at what was, ultimately, a stunt. Why didn’t the others?

They were afraid voting “present” would be seen as expressing solidarity with Obama?

malclave on May 31, 2011 at 8:00 PM

Obviously, Anthony Weiner was distracted…

Blake on May 31, 2011 at 8:00 PM

Democrats called the move a dangerous political stunt that could rattle financial markets.

Right. Because financial markets get rattled by fiscal responsibility. /s

Neo-con Artist on May 31, 2011 at 8:01 PM

cmsinaz on May 31, 2011 at 7:53 PM

Nice post!..Good to see you!.. I left you a message on the Herman Cain post!..:)

Dire Straits on May 31, 2011 at 8:01 PM

Trump: What kind of pizza would you like, Mrs. Palin?

Sarah: I think I’ll have cheese and paparazzi.

predator on May 31, 2011 at 8:01 PM

Obviously, Anthony Weiner was distracted…

Blake on May 31, 2011 at 8:00 PM

LOL!..:)

Dire Straits on May 31, 2011 at 8:01 PM

predator on May 31, 2011 at 8:01 PM

Are you going to be on the QOTD thread?..:)

Dire Straits on May 31, 2011 at 8:02 PM

Bring on the “dirty bill”!

As predator said just a bit ago:

The house votes down the debt ceiling bill 318-97, the senate rejects the WH budget 97-0, what’s a boy wonder president to do?

You just have to get the feeling that reality is setting in at the White House.

Rovin on May 31, 2011 at 8:02 PM

We all know why so many Democrats voted no. It is the color of Obama skin. /

tjexcite on May 31, 2011 at 8:03 PM

Dire Straits on May 31, 2011 at 8:01 PM

Hey buddy, will check it out now…thanks :)

cmsinaz on May 31, 2011 at 8:04 PM

You just have to get the feeling that reality is setting in at the White House.

Rovin on May 31, 2011 at 8:02 PM

Excellent post!..:)

Dire Straits on May 31, 2011 at 8:05 PM

This is a vote that matters… it also matters that ‘structural reform of entitlements’ is going to be the weasel words from the Republicans to excuse raising the debt ceiling.

With just a bit of bruised ego and trying to figure out how to run a national government on $2 trillion/yr. Obama won’t do anything but blabber about how the money has been cut off and do not one, single thing on ‘structural reform of entitlements’. He loves spending other people’s money and can’t conceive of a world where the pockets are not infinitely deep.

ajacksonian on May 31, 2011 at 8:05 PM

Dire Straits on May 31, 2011 at 5:22 PM

yes indeedy :)

cmsinaz on May 31, 2011 at 8:05 PM

cmsinaz on May 31, 2011 at 8:04 PM

..:)

Dire Straits on May 31, 2011 at 8:05 PM

Election have consequences.

We won.

Bitch.

Tim_CA on May 31, 2011 at 8:06 PM

Are you going to be on the QOTD thread?..:)

Dire Straits on May 31, 2011 at 8:02 PM

If I can stay up late enough, I’ll be there for a while. The new work schedule has been a bit of an adjustment. Tough to stay up very late when you’ve gone from a situation where for eight years you did’t go to bed until 2 a.m. and now you’re getting up at 4 a.m.

predator on May 31, 2011 at 8:06 PM

predator on May 31, 2011 at 8:01 PM

Sent by MSNBC to get the scoop. Pray she saw through the makeup to the Judas underneath.

Limerick on May 31, 2011 at 8:06 PM

cmsinaz on May 31, 2011 at 8:05 PM

*clinks Beer bottle*..:):)

Dire Straits on May 31, 2011 at 8:06 PM

predator on May 31, 2011 at 8:06 PM

Good deal..Just wanted to talk some Horse Racing..Belmont Stakes style!..:)

Dire Straits on May 31, 2011 at 8:08 PM

I’ll be glad when there aren’t even 82 democrats in the whole of Congress.

SouthernGent on May 31, 2011 at 8:09 PM

Looks like Boehner may be better at this game than some folks thought!..:)

Dire Straits on May 31, 2011 at 8:09 PM

Dire Straits on May 31, 2011 at 8:06 PM

cheers

dear leader not feelin’ the love tonight

cmsinaz on May 31, 2011 at 8:10 PM

Good deal..Just wanted to talk some Horse Racing..Belmont Stakes style!..:)

Dire Straits on May 31, 2011 at 8:08 PM

Sounds good, buddy. I’ll be there for a bit.

predator on May 31, 2011 at 8:10 PM

Good; that’s step one back to fiscal sanity.

Uncle Sams Nephew on May 31, 2011 at 8:11 PM

I’ll be glad when there aren’t even 82 democrats in the whole of Congress.

SouthernGent on May 31, 2011 at 8:09 PM

Gonna have to turn some huge blue states to red for that one, but I’m all for it.

predator on May 31, 2011 at 8:11 PM

Changeys Denial,of Hopey’s Money Pit Abyss!!!

canopfor on May 31, 2011 at 8:12 PM

dear leader not feelin’ the love tonight

cmsinaz on May 31, 2011 at 8:10 PM

That is a good thing that Obie is not feeling the love!..:)

Dire Straits on May 31, 2011 at 8:13 PM

predator on May 31, 2011 at 8:10 PM

Good deal..I’ll try to be there myself!..:)

Dire Straits on May 31, 2011 at 8:15 PM

Looks like Boehner may be better at this game than some folks thought!..:)

Dire Straits on May 31, 2011 at 8:09 PM

It’s an RBI. We’ll see what else he does…

SouthernGent on May 31, 2011 at 8:17 PM

Well it’s a good thing they voted on this today. Illinois just passed the new redistricting and could loose up to 6…yes I said 6…congressional seats.

“..Under the cover of darkness, the Democrats in Springfield proposed a new Congressional map that was drawn without any input from Republicans or any consideration for the hours of testimony offered at public hearings this spring.”
Geee…where have we seen THAT before??

Guess which seats are up???
We now have Adam Kinzinger in with Jessie Jackson Jr.
We now have Joe Walsh AND Robert Dold in with…..wait for it…that nut job, Jan Schakowski.

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/politics&id=8157721

I’m so angry I don’t even know what to say.

tencole on May 31, 2011 at 8:18 PM

It’s an RBI. We’ll see what else he does…

SouthernGent on May 31, 2011 at 8:17 PM

Good point!..:)

Dire Straits on May 31, 2011 at 8:18 PM

Fully 82 Democrats voted with the GOP — among them Pelosi, Hoyer, and … DNC chief Debbie Wasserman-Schultz

 
Which Muslim country will be bombed to keep this out of the news?

rogerb on May 31, 2011 at 8:22 PM

I’m so angry I don’t even know what to say.

tencole on May 31, 2011 at 8:18 PM

Yeah, WLS radio news guy was saying this one will go to the courts. Big deal. The courts are loaded on behalf of the dark side of the force.

predator on May 31, 2011 at 8:22 PM

Exit question: Seven Democrats voted “present,” presumably to signal their displeasure at what was, ultimately, a stunt. Why didn’t the others?

Voting present has been recently tainted by someone who made a career out of it. Facing re-election with a stain like that doesn’t seem like a good play lately.

massrighty on May 31, 2011 at 8:22 PM

dear leader not feelin’ the love tonight

cmsinaz on May 31, 2011 at 8:10 PM

cmsinaz:True Dat!:)

canopfor on May 31, 2011 at 8:23 PM

Which Muslim country will be bombed to keep this out of the news?

rogerb on May 31, 2011 at 8:22 PM

Detroitistan?

predator on May 31, 2011 at 8:23 PM

Which Muslim country will be bombed to keep this out of the news?

rogerb on May 31, 2011 at 8:22 PM

Aspirin shares just went through the floor with your post.

Limerick on May 31, 2011 at 8:24 PM

Democrats called the move a dangerous political stunt

I’m sorry, is the party that is blatantly lying about the Paul Ryan budget on a DAILY basis whining about political stunts?

Vyce on May 31, 2011 at 8:27 PM

Detroitistan?

predator on May 31, 2011 at 8:23 PM

Thanks – now I have to clean off my monitor :)

gophergirl on May 31, 2011 at 8:29 PM

We go back in time,on how President Bush was treated
in 2006 on Debt Ceiling,and how the Holier than thou
Liberal Progressives thought!!
==============================

Senators Boxer and Feinstein Break Out the Flip Flops
April 13th, 2011
******************************************************

As Spring has finally arrived, Californians are cleaning out their garages, planting flowers and getting ready for some fun in the sun. But is it time to break out the flip flops yet? For Senators Boxer and Feinstein it may be.

Congress is gearing up to debate raising the debt ceiling in the coming weeks as the current ceiling of $14.3 trillion will be surpassed by mid-May. Both California senators have not officially announced where they stand on this issue yet, but if they follow the president’s lead they will most likely vote for it.

Boxer has already criticized the House GOP by saying, “I am so tired of the hypocrisy,” due to their opposition to raising the debt ceiling.

This should come to no surprise to any one.

But wait a minute…
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Back in 2006 when Congress voted to raise the debt ceiling to $8.9 trillion, Boxer and Feinstein voted AGAINST it.

Feinstein in 2006 ripped the Bush administration by saying, “[The] Administration has chosen to continue down an unsustainable economic path…our nation is going in the wrong direction. The signals grow more evident each day. Deficits are at record levels. The debt is reaching astronomic heights.”
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

So is it time for the California senators to break out their flip flops? We will see how they eventually vote but I would start dusting them off.
===================================

http://www.redcounty.com/content/senators-boxer-and-feinstein-break-out-flip-flops

canopfor on April 17, 2011 at 9:31 PM

canopfor on May 31, 2011 at 8:30 PM

Why would the GOP bring it to the floor knowing that they had more than enough votes to kill it? Simple: To make the Democrats choke on it, of course.

As if Weinergate was not enough.

Karma

Roy Rogers on May 31, 2011 at 8:32 PM

Thanks – now I have to clean off my monitor :)

gophergirl on May 31, 2011 at 8:29 PM

Wanna borrow some Windex? ;)

predator on May 31, 2011 at 8:33 PM

Another EPIC FAIL for the Failure in Chief!

DuctTapeMyBrain on May 31, 2011 at 8:33 PM

Why would the GOP bring it to the floor knowing that they had more than enough votes to kill it?

But the media (radio updates) framed it like this all day: reporter, “President Obama asked for an up or down vote on raising the debt ceiling and he’ll get exactly that.”

Paraphrase the rest: The GOP wanted spending cuts with the raise, but the WH said no–up or down vote and spending cuts are separate, i.e., we’ll vote on those cuts later. (Yeah riiiight.)

AP’s post framed it as the GOP forced the vote. So which is it?

conservative pilgrim on May 31, 2011 at 8:33 PM

BREAKING NEWS: Obama just ordered all male Democrats in Congress to tweet their cranks to get this out of the news.

Chuck Schick on May 31, 2011 at 8:33 PM

ajacksonian: Look how ObaMao wants to spend other people’s money; ie., our tax dollars.

Look at how our American tax dollars are being spent to aid education…in Indonesia. USAid will be sending $90 million for education programs there, much of it going to Muslim schools.
http://www.tradeaidmonitor.com/2011/05/obama-administration-millions-indonesian-education-islamic.html

onlineanalyst on May 31, 2011 at 8:34 PM

With 318 votes against, a number of Democrats must have broken ranks.

bw222 on May 31, 2011 at 8:36 PM

We go back in time to 2006,on Debt Ceiling by
Senator Barack(Hopey The Changey)Obama,and his
words of Socialist Wisdom!
============================

Senator Barack Obama Explaining his 2006 Vote Against Raising the Debt Limit
***********************

From Sen. Obama’s Floor Speech, March 20, 2006:
***********************************************

The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that “the buck stops here.” Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.
==================================================

At the time, Senator Obama was urging Congress not to tolerate an increase that would bring the debt ceiling to $9 trillion. Under President Obama, the debt ceiling has been raised to $14.3 trillion. Even without counting most unfunded liabilities, the national debt is now calculated to be nearing $14.1 trillion. It increases about $4.22 billion per day (each citizen’s share stands at roughly $45K). Thus, Democrats will soon demand that the debt ceiling be raised, lest the sky fall. When they do,

they will be asking for a significant boost in a ceiling that is already 60 percent higher than the one Barack Obama said was “a sign of leadership failure” five years ago.
——————————————————-

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/256288/senator-barack-obama-explaining-his-2006-vote-against-raising-debt-limit-andrew-c-mcca

canopfor on May 31, 2011 at 8:37 PM

Election 2012 Coming Up,Know your Talking Points,er,sh*t,
Progressive speak,sorry,your FACTS!
=====================================

From Sen. Obama’s Floor Speech, March 20, 2006:
***********************************************

The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills
————————————————-

One Term President=raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure.
==========================

O.T.P. ( One Term President ) by WOLVERINES!
*********************************************

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MddREczVeL4

canopfor on May 31, 2011 at 8:42 PM

I don’t know why they imposed the two-thirds requirement. There was no chance that the Republican majority would let the bill would pass; raising the bar only gives Democrats who voted “no” an out with their base by letting them claim that the process was rigged to guarantee failure and therefore they felt no obligation to vote yes.

Dead on AP, I knew you were a smart man, slightly misguided :D, but smart none the less.

Boehner just gave his opposition a free pass. Let’s do this with a simple majority vote and watch where the vote lands then I’ll be impressed.

MadDogF on May 31, 2011 at 8:42 PM

Who’s having a better day today? Boehner or Weiner?

Stay hard GOP!!!

Roy Rogers on May 31, 2011 at 8:43 PM

I see this as rats abandoning a sinking ship. But if it’s a ploy to get us to trust the Democrats, then yes, it’s an epic fail.

RebeccaH on May 31, 2011 at 8:46 PM

Trump: What kind of pizza would you like, Mrs. Palin?

Sarah: I think I’ll have cheese and paparazzi.

predator on May 31, 2011 at 8:01 PM

predator:Tee-hee,good one(paparazzi)Haha!:)

canopfor on May 31, 2011 at 8:47 PM

predator:Tee-hee,good one(paparazzi)Haha!:)

canopfor on May 31, 2011 at 8:47 PM

And ya know, I could actually see her saying something like that!

predator on May 31, 2011 at 8:53 PM

And choke they surely did.

Why would the Republican even think this was not a win for them to do.

tarpon on May 31, 2011 at 8:58 PM

The Republican-controlled House

Good ol’ CNN…

fossten on May 31, 2011 at 8:58 PM

Why would the GOP bring it to the floor knowing that they had more than enough votes to kill it? Simple: To make the Democrats choke on it, of course.

To send a pointed and very public message to the White House. Dems are running scared and Boehner wants To rub Obama’s nose in the fact.

Ozwitch on May 31, 2011 at 8:59 PM

Yahoo!

*clinking glasses all around*

cmsinaz on May 31, 2011 at 7:53 PM

Dang, late to the party again! Had to go to the granddaughters softball game…..*clink* ! :-))))))

sicoit on May 31, 2011 at 9:00 PM

I don’t understand how this got voted down just this morning CNN stated the President’s popularity poll was 54% huh….I guess no one takes CNN polls seriously.

Dr Evil on May 31, 2011 at 9:35 PM

predator:Tee-hee,good one(paparazzi)Haha!:)

canopfor on May 31, 2011 at 8:47 PM
=================

And ya know, I could actually see her saying something like that!

predator on May 31, 2011 at 8:53 PM

predator:Hehe…U-Betcha!:)

canopfor on May 31, 2011 at 9:51 PM

i saw our friend Shep nearly hysterical this pm, saying the last time the GOP played politics with important financial stuff he doesn’t understand (the TARP bill) the bill was defeated by the know-nothing GOP and the MARKET went DOWN 700+ points!!!!!!

i so seriously wish they’d fire the guy…and get a real journo rather that a reader from MS. Whatever they pay him, they’ve gotten screwed

r keller on May 31, 2011 at 10:08 PM

Democrats called the move a dangerous political stunt that could rattle financial markets.

…and send the markets UP!!!

I don’t know why they imposed the two-thirds requirement.

The answer is obvious: they wanted to show Obama that the Republican position is veto-proof!!!

landlines on May 31, 2011 at 10:17 PM

Hey let’s try brinkmanship with the debt ceiling and f%ck the bond markets up.

lexhamfox on May 31, 2011 at 10:21 PM

Hey let’s try brinkmanship with the debt ceiling and f%ck the bond markets up.

lexhamfox on May 31, 2011 at 10:21 PM

Now you’re talking!

We all know the bond markets are going down, probably starting with the Greeks and Irish, so why not take a stand and deal with it now rather than later when it will be that much worse.

sharrukin on May 31, 2011 at 10:24 PM

Fully 82 Democrats voted with the GOP

A healthy dose of bipartisan participation. Something Obama and Pelosi never saw the wisdom of when they were ramming Obamacare up our down our throats. Now try to blame it all on the GOP.

smellthecoffee on May 31, 2011 at 10:52 PM

Who’s having a better day today? Boehner or Weiner?

Stay hard GOP!!!

Roy Rogers on May 31, 2011 at 8:43 PM

You owe me a new laptop on that one, and anoher Crown Royal on the rocks, which just spilt on it. LMAO!

TXUS on May 31, 2011 at 11:01 PM

The house votes down the debt ceiling bill 318-97, the senate rejects the WH budget 97-0, what’s a boy wonder president to do?

Sounds like the makings of a very large and severely bruised ego that may never properly heal. Can the President take advantage of FMLA? What about permanent disability?

glennbo on May 31, 2011 at 11:20 PM

Does ANYONE know WHY this extension is for 2.4 TRILLION?

This increase is even GREATER than what Pelosi’s absurd 2.2 TRILLION dollar increase!

Can someone tell me WHY is Boehner the speaker?

Can anyone tell me why the Republicans want to push this absurd spending BEYOND the 2012 elections?

Freddy on June 1, 2011 at 1:41 AM

OT, but not really: Number of federally-owned limousines increases by 73% in Obama’s first two years
http://www.iwatchnews.org/2011/05/31/4765/limousine-liberals-number-government-owned-limos-has-soared-under-obama

itsnotaboutme on June 1, 2011 at 6:55 AM

…From 238 to 412. We also know that the number of federal employees making six-figure incomes has also skyrocketed under Obama.
http://chrisbanescu.com/blog/2010/02/americans-suffer-while-government-workers-prosper/

itsnotaboutme on June 1, 2011 at 7:28 AM

Democrats called the move a dangerous political stunt that could rattle financial markets.

Then dutifully voted for it.

Herb on June 1, 2011 at 8:58 AM

The Senate reject the president’s budget 97-0. The lights are dimming, is the drunken bash coming to a close? Only way Obie can garner their attention now is pull a “Wiener” on them.

volsense on June 1, 2011 at 9:20 AM

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