Audio: What Hollywood really thinks about conservatives

posted at 9:30 am on May 31, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

What does Hollywood really think of conservatives? Ben Shapiro talked to the movers and shakers in Hollywood to find out — and recounts his adventures in his new book, Primetime Propaganda: The True Hollywood Story of How the Left Took Over Your TV:

Primetime Propaganda is the story—told in their own words—of how television has been used over the past sixty years by Hollywood writers, producers, actors, and executives to promote their liberal ideals, to push the envelope on social and political issues, and to shape America in their own leftist image.

In this thoroughly researched and detailed history of the television industry, conservative columnist and author Ben Shapiro argues that left-leaning entertainment kingpins in Los Angeles and New York have leveraged—and continue to use—their positions and power to push liberal messages and promote the Democratic Party while actively discriminating against their opponents on the Right. According to Shapiro, television isn’t just about entertainment—it’s an attempt to convince Americans that the social, economic, and foreign policy shaped by leftism is morally righteous.

But don’t take his word for it. Shapiro interviewed more than one hundred of the industry’s biggest players, including Larry Gelbart (M*A*S*H), Fred Silverman (former president of ABC Entertainment, NBC, and vice president of programming at CBS), Marta Kauffman (Friends), David Shore (House), and Mark Burnett (Survivor). Many of these insiders boast that not only is Hollywood biased against conservatives, but that many of the shows being broadcast have secret political messages. With this groundbreaking exposé, readers will never watch television the same way again.

Shapiro has given Hot Air and Townhall readers an exclusive on a few audio clips of his interviews with television producers and power players in Hollywood. First, Hallmark Channel VP Barbara Fisher actually sounds pretty reasonable when talking with Shapiro. Fisher takes a dim view of activism on the job in any direction and espouses a live-and-let-live, focus-on-the-job approach that most conservatives would find fair and even welcoming. At the end, though, Fisher admits that activism from one side gets a much different reaction than the other, as Shapiro offers the hypothetical of an actor wearing a McCain T-shirt as opposed to an Obama shirt:

This next clip has less to do with corroborating discrimination than it does with attitudes towards Rush Limbaugh and conservatives in general. TV producer George Schlatter, who brought us the classic TV variety show Laugh-In, chortles with glee when calling Rush a “convicted junkie” and deriding his supposed position as “the head of the Republican Party,” a position I’m sure Rush never sought or claimed:

 

Townhall has an exclusive column from Shapiro today explaining the import of his book:

Hollywood matters.

It matters because we watch Hollywood product day in and day out. Your children spend six or seven hours at school, and couple of hours with their friends, and a couple of hours with you. They spend a full three hours with the television.

You get home from work, kick off your shoes, and plop down in front of the TV, hoping simply to chill out. Instead, you get unmitigated liberalism pouring out of your TV. But you continue to watch because it’s great. It’s fun, thrilling, dramatic, or hilarious. We think it has no impact on us.

But it does. Television made Barack Obama. Television it supported bigger and bigger government, from Welfare to health care; pushed abortion-on-demand and the radical gay agenda into the mainstream; it stumped against war and for meaningless buzzwords like diversity and dangerous buzzwords like multiculturalism. Television has done more to change the politics of our nation than simple politics has.

Television has manipulated us. And those who create television have done it purposefully, and elegantly. They have weeded out conservatives in the industry wholesale. They have worked hand-in-glove with liberals in government to forward the leftist agenda. They have turned pure entertainment into a vehicle for propaganda.

Shapiro will join me soon on The Ed Morrissey Show to discuss more in his book. If Hollywood thinks their political messages on shows like West Wing, M*A*S*H, Law and Order, and the like are “secret,” though, they need to get out more.

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Which is why I and my family avoid most of the garbage on tv as if it were infected with plague, which it is.

That dude talking about Limbaugh looks like John Lithgow’s grandpa.

Bishop on May 31, 2011 at 9:35 AM

Many of these insiders boast that not only is Hollywood biased against conservatives, but that many of the shows being broadcast have secret political messages. With this groundbreaking exposé, readers will never watch television the same way again.

If they think people have not gotten, not already seen this, then they really do think we’re stupid.

The entertainment industry doesn’t take a crap without first trying to figure out how to inject their political message.

hawkdriver on May 31, 2011 at 9:36 AM

But you continue to watch because it’s great.

Rarely. I refuse to watch shows that insult me.

Blake on May 31, 2011 at 9:37 AM

CSI,the original used to be a great who done it show but I won’t watch anymore after they demonized the fracking method used to extract natural gas. They used false info from eco nuts to build the dialogue for the show and demonized gas producers in the process. Won’t watch any Law & Order shows either.

Kissmygrits on May 31, 2011 at 9:39 AM

I watched the first clip. That’s tremendously weak. “I’m sure that’s true” is the big deal? None of us need proof Hollywood is dominated by hippie tree hugging lefties or at least i dont. So yeah, a McCain shirt will get a different reaction than the 1 billion Obama shirts they see every day. And?

Dash on May 31, 2011 at 9:39 AM

That’s why I watch a lot of sports. Usually that’s pretty safe unless Barry infects what I’m watching.

gophergirl on May 31, 2011 at 9:39 AM

IRONY ALERT!!!

“The Real L Word” ad right after a post about the Lib trashing of traditional Conservative values?

PappyD61 on May 31, 2011 at 9:40 AM

The bigger question is “What do Conservatives think of Hollywood?”

It gets more difficult with time to even find good choices on Netflix. The Liberal bias is always there.

We hardly go to one movie a year. Our family has started reading more and more or participating in hobbies. Hollywood is a wasteland to us.

BetseyRoss on May 31, 2011 at 9:40 AM

Something very noticeable, especially re that second clip, is that the Left…Hollywood and across the country…has gone off the deep end in moaning and groaning about how awful conservatives are. And that includes demeaning, using the most colorful language, any and all conservative politicians and pundits they can find.

It’s nothing but vile hate.

And when I ask them instead to perhaps laud praise on the liberals, and tell us how great their side has been doing, it’s *crickets*.

JetBoy on May 31, 2011 at 9:41 AM

Hooray for Hollyweird!

pilamaye on May 31, 2011 at 9:41 AM

People in Hollweird calling Limbaugh a junkie is some pretty rich irony.

mchristian on May 31, 2011 at 9:41 AM

Television has manipulated us. And those who create television have done it purposefully, and elegantly. They have weeded out conservatives in the industry wholesale. They have worked hand-in-glove with liberals in government to forward the leftist agenda. They have turned pure entertainment into a vehicle for propaganda.

Once one realizes this they can spot revisionism on supposed history and documentary channels. Even sporting events have commentary bent to the left agenda. See this years NASCAR push for ethanol.

darwin-t on May 31, 2011 at 9:41 AM

We hardly go to one movie a year. Our family has started reading more and more or participating in hobbies.

Awesome! I thought it was just me….

ElectricPhase on May 31, 2011 at 9:42 AM

…should leave their politics at the door when their doing something creative…

What she meant to say is “leave their conservative politics at the door.” What the hell does she mean by creative. Acting is basically standing on a mark and delivering a line. If you don’t do it right you get to do it again. (wish I could do that in my job) The real creative people: find cures for disease, fashion probes to Mars, find answers to long standing problems. Not act smug and swear on T.V.

Tommy_G on May 31, 2011 at 9:42 AM


Primetime Propaganda is the story—told in their own words—of how television has been used over the past sixty years by Hollywood writers, producers, actors, and executives to promote their liberal ideals, to push the envelope on social and political issues, and to shape America in their own leftist image.

Think of how many great movies they could have made if they were just in it for the money. And how many more if they were promoting a pro-American viewpoint.

Tony737 on May 31, 2011 at 9:43 AM

If Hollywood thinks their political messages on shows like West Wing, M*A*S*H, Law and Order, and the like are “secret,” though, they need to get out more.

Wow. This is really interesting and has been something I tell people as well. Not just this final point you make here, Ed, with which I wholeheartedly agree, but also that Hollywood is an arm of the Democratic party–they just think they are being sly about it.

How often do you cringe at the liberalism on display in a program and then your fellow viewers say “Ohhh, it’s just a show, or a movie!”….yeah right, Hollywood doesn’t think that way.

ted c on May 31, 2011 at 9:44 AM

Schlatter thinks too highly of himself. What’s he done since Laugh In? Rush has grown his audience and all know of his private life problems. We wish the best for Rush and hope he stays around long enough until everyone agrees with him. Can Schlatter say the same?

Kissmygrits on May 31, 2011 at 9:45 AM

My son watched exactly 1 hour of TV this weekend — a special on the Battle of Midway. Because of Hollywood’s disdain for us rubes, programs that feature science and history are about the only one regularly watched. I suspect the trend to more hours on the Internet is a direct result of the continued pap Hollywood offers instead of true entertainment.

Mutnodjmet on May 31, 2011 at 9:46 AM

Want to have fun with George Schlatter?

Just mention the words “TURN ON” to him and see if his face still goes pale, the side of his mouth twitches, and he breaks into a cold sweat.

“Turn On” was absolutely the most disasterous TV series of all time, being cancelled after its initial premiere of one episode.

And it was his creation.

pilamaye on May 31, 2011 at 9:47 AM

My buddy and I were talking today about the Memorial Day weekend movie lineups (something I love) and I was telling how I watched the Gettysburg documentary on history channel last night and switched between “Midway” or “The Longest Day” while he had watched “Apocalypse Now” the night before. He lamented on how it was such an anti American, anti-war flick and we talked about how Hollywood just doesn’t make movies like it used to when John Wayne was still around. It seemed like John Wayne’s career capped the end of really good conservative values being on display in movies, something that we haven’t seen in decades. I was shocked to see Dennis Quaid reading a book in “Soul Surfer” with the title “Holy Bible” on the cover. I wouldn’t have been shocked if Mr. Shapiro’s thesis here was false.

ted c on May 31, 2011 at 9:48 AM

Think of how many great movies they could have made if they were just in it for the money. And how many more if they were promoting a pro-American viewpoint.

Tony737 on May 31, 2011 at 9:43 AM

Witness how Hollywood completely lost their minds when The Passion was not only released but was a blockbuster hit.

teke184 on May 31, 2011 at 9:48 AM


It’s fun, thrilling, dramatic, or hilarious.

Really?

I can’t think of anything on tv that matches that discription. But then all I ever watch is the Hiatory Channel.

Tony737 on May 31, 2011 at 9:48 AM

Liberals put politics in everything. They can’t help themselves. It comes with knowing deep down you are wrong.

The Mega Independent on May 31, 2011 at 9:48 AM

Dan Rowan and Dick Martin were the glue behind laugh-In, plus all the talented writers and on-air talent.

America already thinks that Hollyweird is clueless.

kingsjester on May 31, 2011 at 9:51 AM

CSI,the original used to be a great who done it show but I won’t watch anymore. Won’t watch any Law & Order shows either.

Kissmygrits on May 31, 2011 at 9:39 AM

Yep, exactly. My taste in movies now and my taste in TV is directly affected by the politics on display.

I think I’ll get this book for my kids.

beatcanvas on May 31, 2011 at 9:51 AM

If Hollywood thinks their political messages on shows like West Wing, M*A*S*H, Law and Order, and the like are “secret,” though, they need to get out more.

They consider themselves very clever, but they are nothing except transparent.

ladyingray on May 31, 2011 at 9:51 AM

Which statute lists ‘junkie’ as a crime? Inquiring minds want to know.

fossten on May 31, 2011 at 9:51 AM

So, I don’t understand. People who have failings can’t be moral or leaders? Does this mean that the people on his side that have failings are just disposable props used to get the message out? How about the leader of the free world admitting to drug use? Is it okay because he scored it himself and managed to avoid addiction? If you can’t glean anything else from the Left, it has to be that there are a whole set of rules that they are not bound by that they feel free to impose on others.

Cindy Munford on May 31, 2011 at 9:54 AM

How often do you cringe at the liberalism on display in a program and then your fellow viewers say “Ohhh, it’s just a show, or a movie!”….yeah right, Hollywood doesn’t think that way.

Which is partly why I had it with The Simpsons about 7-8 seasons into the show, as they started getting more overtly political at the same time that they became decidedly less funny.

The main problem is when they forget the “hidden” part of “hidden messages” and it just plain insults the viewers.

teke184 on May 31, 2011 at 9:55 AM

But you continue to watch because it’s great. It’s fun, thrilling, dramatic, or hilarious. We think it has no impact on us.

To quote Hollywood product that WASN’T left leaning…

Who’s we, sucker?

And as with so many above, my TV can literally go weeks, without being turned on. I think the last show I watched religiously was Babylon 5…that’s literally how tuned out I am, today.

MNHawk on May 31, 2011 at 9:55 AM

Cindy Munford on May 31, 2011 at 9:54 AM

Exactly right, ma’am.

kingsjester on May 31, 2011 at 9:55 AM

People in Hollweird calling Limbaugh a junkie is some pretty rich irony.

mchristian on May 31, 2011 at 9:41 AM

Tru dat.

If Limbaugh were some Hollywood “royalty”, they’d be making documentaries and speeches at the Oscars about how he fell into a spiral of addiction, got help, and overcame an immense hurdle…and labeling Rush a “hero”.

JetBoy on May 31, 2011 at 9:56 AM

Wait…Hollywood is politically liberal, inserts what they think are veiled political messages into their work, donates million$ of dollars to Democrat candidates every election cycle and blackball conservatives in their midst?

This is totally shocking and I’m glad somebody is hawking a book pointing it out. Nobody knew this.

Good Lt on May 31, 2011 at 9:56 AM

Funny that the staggering wealth of these people is never questioned like say for instance … oil companies.

darwin on May 31, 2011 at 9:56 AM

Witness how Hollywood completely lost their minds when The Passion was not only released but was a blockbuster hit. – Teke

Hahaha yeah, heads poppin’ all over the left coast!

But what I mean is imigine if we have a movie industry that just wanted to make money … we’d have way better movies, I’d like to see “Lone Survivor”, “Mission: Blacklist #1″, “Hard Corps”, “We Were One”, “Kill or Capture” and whole list of other books turned into movies.

Tony737 on May 31, 2011 at 9:58 AM

If Hollywood thinks their political messages on shows like West Wing, M*A*S*H, Law and Order, and the like are “secret,” though, they need to get out more.

The thing to also note about all three shows is the more overtly slanted their messages became, the less watchable the episodes were. (In the case of something like M*A*S*H, there may have been a force-of-habit momentum that kept the show’s ratings high to the end, but just try and watch the final 3-4 seasons nowadays. The preachiness and moralizing combine with bad overacting and lame jokes to make the final 60 or so episodes a waste of time.)

jon1979 on May 31, 2011 at 9:58 AM

So, is Robin Williams a ‘convicted junkie’ since he went to rehab?

fossten on May 31, 2011 at 9:59 AM

Then you have the Leftloons like Matt Duhmon and George C. Looney who make their entire fortunes playing characters they make fun of in RL, because strong, conservative action types resonate withthe public – and they know it. I refuse to spend money on either of them or any other morons who out themselves.

PJ Emeritus on May 31, 2011 at 9:59 AM

If Limbaugh were some Hollywood “royalty”, they’d be making documentaries and speeches at the Oscars about how he fell into a spiral of addiction, got help, and overcame an immense hurdle…and labeling Rush a “hero”.

JetBoy on May 31, 2011 at 9:56 AM

You mean like Heath Ledger? A heroin addict? Yeah, they mourned his death as though he was a national hero.

darwin on May 31, 2011 at 10:00 AM

I heard that Box Office receipts are down 20%. If you ask me there are people who don’t need to watch this expose, they already figured it out.

They take your money (ad revenue and box office sales) to reinforce their reality of a Fabian Fantasy. Why have so many Americans stopped getting their news from the boob -tube? In my case, I am tired of the boob’s stale vision for this country. It’s as simple as that, this summer will have a record number of sequels. Because they killed creativity and replaced it with “formula” Hollywood needs some competition. It would be great if film making was set up in another part of this country. Some innovative creative people who want to produce some quality entertainment. The product coming out of Hollywood today is mostly comic book hash. We have real folks in Iraq and Afghanistan in fact all over the world fighting, dying being wounded, and doing miraculous things, and Hollywood serves up pretend comic book heroes.

The last good movie I watched about an Afghanistan War Veteran was “Source Code” I highly recommend it.

Dr Evil on May 31, 2011 at 10:01 AM

Secret? I could tell Avatar was anti-military from the damn trailer. Which is why I am one of the ten people in this world who wouldn’t go see that trash.

search4truth on May 31, 2011 at 10:03 AM

I quit watching TV in 2003. I don’t miss it.

single stack on May 31, 2011 at 10:03 AM

It would be great if film making was set up in another part of this country. Some innovative creative people who want to produce some quality entertainment. The product coming out of Hollywood today is mostly comic book hash.

There is production setting up in various areas like Louisiana due to tax credits for production, intended to stimulate the TV and movie industry there.

You take the good with the bad, though, as you may get prestige pictures like Ray or big-name fare like True Blood, Twilight sequels, and TV spinoffs like the Dukes Of Hazzard movie, but you also get a lot of Syfy Channel movie-of-the-week crap that costs practically nothing to make.

teke184 on May 31, 2011 at 10:05 AM

Secret? I could tell Avatar was anti-military from the damn trailer. Which is why I am one of the ten people in this world who wouldn’t go see that trash.

search4truth on May 31, 2011 at 10:03 AM

Who are the other eight?

teke184 on May 31, 2011 at 10:05 AM

Pardon us if we don’t take moral lectures from the crowd who touts child rapist Roman Polanski as a visionary or cop killer Mumia Abu Jamal as a hero.

Good Lt on May 31, 2011 at 10:05 AM

Secret? I could tell Avatar was anti-military from the damn trailer. Which is why I am one of the ten people in this world who wouldn’t go see that trash.

search4truth on May 31, 2011 at 10:03 AM

I haven’t seen it … don’t plan too.

darwin on May 31, 2011 at 10:05 AM

Who are the other eight?

teke184 on May 31, 2011 at 10:05 AM

here’s one!

ted c on May 31, 2011 at 10:06 AM

Secret? I could tell Avatar was anti-military from the damn trailer. Which is why I am one of the ten people in this world who wouldn’t go see that trash.

search4truth on May 31, 2011 at 10:03 AM
Who are the other eight?

teke184 on May 31, 2011 at 10:05 AM

Me for one.

Never seen it. Never will.

Wethal on May 31, 2011 at 10:06 AM

Who are the other eight?

teke184 on May 31, 2011 at 10:05 AM

Who are the other seven?

Tommy_G on May 31, 2011 at 10:07 AM

I too started watching sports too. So it really pisses me off when ESPN goes gaga over Obama and shows him endlessly with the NCAA basketball picks etc. I go to sports to get away from politics. Not to have it in my face. Even the magazines from EsPn to vogue just love love love the president and First Lady ad naseum.

Ricki on May 31, 2011 at 10:08 AM

I realized the truth of this during the “Angry Man” period of the sixties. It taught me to pick my viewing list very carefully.

McCarthy was right – he really was!

OldEnglish on May 31, 2011 at 10:10 AM

Secret? I could tell Avatar was anti-military from the damn trailer. Which is why I am one of the ten people in this world who wouldn’t go see that trash.

Yeah, it was obvious, but I saw it…you didn’t miss much.

I mean, with movies and TV shows, I don’t care if there’s a joke or statement in the script that pokes at conservatives…but especially lately, it’s more than simple ribbing and is a complete and total turn-off…literally, I turn it off.

A person can only take so much.

JetBoy on May 31, 2011 at 10:10 AM

Then you have the Leftloons like Matt Duhmon and George C. Looney who make their entire fortunes playing characters they make fun of in RL, because strong, conservative action types resonate with the public – and they know it.

PJ Emeritus on May 31, 2011 at 9:59 AM

Kiefer Sutherland, Dennis Haysbert… it’s a long, long list.

ProfessorMiao on May 31, 2011 at 10:12 AM

That’s why even with 1000+ channels on TV I can rarely find anything to watch…NCIS is about it..

tinkerthinker on May 31, 2011 at 10:12 AM

The last good movie I watched about an Afghanistan War Veteran was “Source Code” I highly recommend it.

Dr Evil on May 31, 2011 at 10:01 AM

The main character is a combat helicopter pilot stationed in Afghanistan….is it me or is there something about flying in from the air, and pounding the enemy on the ground – something a person can watch over, and over again, and not get tired of the action? That was the heroes day job, he get’s tasked for a new mission, because of his combat training. Some Gave All, in this movie, Some Keep Giving.

Dr Evil on May 31, 2011 at 10:13 AM

Who are the other seven?

Tommy_G on May 31, 2011 at 10:07 AM

I’m number six. (Who is number one?).

OldEnglish on May 31, 2011 at 10:13 AM

Guess this is one of the reasons I rarely watch the trash on TV.

GarandFan on May 31, 2011 at 10:13 AM

AMC advertised their showing of “Apocalypse Now-REDUX” over the weekend as “one of the greatest war films of all time!”

And I went “HUH?”

Because this film has always been viewed as clearly an anti-war movie from beginning to end, REDUX or no REDUX.

pilamaye on May 31, 2011 at 10:14 AM

Who are the other seven?

Tommy_G on May 31, 2011 at 10:07 A

M

I’m number six. (Who is number one?).

OldEnglish on May 31, 2011 at 10:13 AM

Does this mean we’ll have a rotating set of number twos?

teke184 on May 31, 2011 at 10:14 AM

I could tell Avatar was anti-military from the damn trailer. Which is why I am one of the ten people in this world who wouldn’t go see that trash.

search4truth on May 31, 2011 at 10:03 AM

Who are the other eight?

teke184 on May 31, 2011 at 10:05 AM

Me.

ProfessorMiao on May 31, 2011 at 10:14 AM

http://www.digitalspy.com/celebrity/news/a320353/patricia-heaton-i-lost-work-over-politics.html

Heaton confessed that her strong belief in God has caused her to be “lumped in” with other political conservatives and cost her work by more liberal Hollywood directors.

“We know for a fact there are some people who have said they wouldn’t want to work with us because of our politics,” she said, referring to herself and director husband David Hunt.

William Amos on May 31, 2011 at 10:15 AM

There are 2 ways to fight this. First is boycotting TV series and movies(along with the actors and producers behind them) that promote left-wing propaganda. The second is to get more conservative product released into the marketplace. Granted, that’s not always easy to do, but it’s not an impossibility.

The Blind Side was a massive box office hit(and won Sandra Bullock an Oscar), and that had a lot of appeal with social conservatives. Shows like 24 and movies like Taken had widespread appeal thanks to their unabashed favoritism towards American counterterrorist agents and the lengths to which they’ll go to protect this country. And of course there are the huge indie successes like The Passion of the Christ.

Will this overcome the influence of things like The Daily Show, SNL, network shows like The West Wing, etc.? Not right away. But it’s foolish to just concede the entertainment industry to leftists. We’ve done that with education and look where it’s gotten us.

Doughboy on May 31, 2011 at 10:15 AM

Tony737 on May 31, 2011 at 9:43 AM
Witness how Hollywood completely lost their minds when The Passion was not only released but was a blockbuster hit.

teke184 on May 31, 2011 at 9:48 AM

Yup. Key was – Gibson wanted to use his own actors – outside the firm “union mitts” in Hollywood AND had the audacity to not want to cater to largely Jewish producers, directors, distribution chains, etc…. being Gibson funded the film himself. That is why the so-called “problem” with the Barrabus scene exploded, when in fact – it was taken directly from the New Testament.

It is also why the outcry over his “drunk rant against Jews” became worst than Pearl Harbor to them – along with clear, illegal schemes to smear Gibson – namely a billboard in Hollywood that said “black ball Gibson”, until it was taken down 2 days later.

Never mind Passion was one of the highest grossing films, along with the highest net profit margin of any Hollywood film.

The Hollywood scumbags got locked out of the money train, in the same way they fund losing liberal films off the backs of the few successes each year. Gobson knows this and wanted nothing to do with their bribery and graft.

Odie1941 on May 31, 2011 at 10:16 AM

Does this mean we’ll have a rotating set of number twos?

teke184 on May 31, 2011 at 10:14 AM

Only if you’ve got the runs. :)

OldEnglish on May 31, 2011 at 10:16 AM

The thing to also note about all three shows is the more overtly slanted their messages became, the less watchable the episodes were.

jon1979 on May 31, 2011 at 9:58 AM

Ever watch Home Improvement. A great, funny show about guys in the garage breaking things, putting things together, ect.

Then came the final season. The shows with A Message. When the local tool company went from being the source of new guy toys, to the source of evil pollution. When…well, I didn’t watch anymore after that episode. The show died for good, shortly after.

MNHawk on May 31, 2011 at 10:18 AM

AMC advertised their showing of “Apocalypse Now-REDUX” over the weekend as “one of the greatest war films of all time!”

And I went “HUH?”

Because this film has always been viewed as clearly an anti-war movie from beginning to end, REDUX or no REDUX.

pilamaye on May 31, 2011 at 10:14 AM

Both versions are clearly anti-war but the Redux version is incredibly bad, IMHO, because that plantation scene which becomes 20 minutes of Coppola jerking off.

It stops the movie dead in its tracks, which is why Coppola left it out of the original cut.

teke184 on May 31, 2011 at 10:19 AM

Just turn the television off. You will be amazed at how much time you have to do so many more important things.

Vashta.Nerada on May 31, 2011 at 10:20 AM

Have to get the “upper tiers” of cable so I won’t have to watch network TV. Even with the movie channels there are some movies I will not watch due to the actor/actress.

marinetbryant on May 31, 2011 at 10:21 AM

Heaton confessed that her strong belief in God has caused her to be “lumped in” with other political conservatives and cost her work by more liberal Hollywood directors.

“We know for a fact there are some people who have said they wouldn’t want to work with us because of our politics,” she said, referring to herself and director husband David Hunt.

William Amos on May 31, 2011 at 10:15 AM

I respect Patty Heaton for being openly conservative in Hollywood, but let’s not get carried away here. The woman was on Everybody Loves Raymond for a decade and likely made 9 figures from that show when all was said and done(once you factor in syndication). She was immediately cast on another show on Fox with fellow conservative, Kelsey Grammer(who also made an ungodly amount of money from Cheers and Frasier). And even though that series tanked and was canceled after one year, she rebounded right away and landed a starring role on The Middle on ABC which just got renewed for a third season.

So she’s doing just fine in spite of her politics and religion. There are plenty of actors and writers who’ve gotten screwed over because of their views(Gary Oldman struggled to find work for 3 years after he came out as a conservative in late 2000), but it’s hard to feel too badly for Heaton.

Doughboy on May 31, 2011 at 10:22 AM

My son watched exactly 1 hour of TV this weekend — a special on the Battle of Midway. Because of Hollywood’s disdain for us rubes, programs that feature science and history are about the only one regularly watched. I suspect the trend to more hours on the Internet is a direct result of the continued pap Hollywood offers instead of true entertainment.

Mutnodjmet on May 31, 2011 at 9:46 AM

About all I watch are History/Science Channels & Discovery & National Geographic. Or Fox News and baseball. The only network shows I watch are The Simpsons & SNL, to keep up with pop culture.

And having watched the occasional M*A*S*H rerun, that show has not held up well. Hawkeye is a sexual harasser.

rbj on May 31, 2011 at 10:23 AM

Secret? I could tell Avatar was anti-military from the damn trailer. Which is why I am one of the ten people in this world who wouldn’t go see that trash.

search4truth on May 31, 2011 at 10:03 AM

Who are the other eight?

teke184 on May 31, 2011 at 10:05 AM

Me for one.

Never seen it. Never will.

Wethal on May 31, 2011 at 10:06 AM

I must be on that list – the only film I have seen in the theater in a decade was Atlas Shrugged.

Vashta.Nerada on May 31, 2011 at 10:24 AM

movies like Taken

Know how that one got made?

It was produced by Luc Besson, of Leon: The Professional and Fifth Element fame, with the primary audience being the French. It didn’t even premiere in the US until a year after it did so in France.

If Hollywood had been handed that one and only needed to film it, they’d have found a way to make Liam Neeson into a scumbag and the Islamic Albanian kidnappers into poor downtrodden urchins just trying to scrape out a living.

teke184 on May 31, 2011 at 10:24 AM

And having watched the occasional M*A*S*H rerun, that show has not held up well. Hawkeye is a sexual harasser.

rbj on May 31, 2011 at 10:23 AM

The first three seasons of MASH aren’t bad. I refuse to watch any episode after Henry’s plane crash and Trapper’s off-screen discharge.

teke184 on May 31, 2011 at 10:25 AM

rbj on May 31, 2011 at 10:23 AM

About all I watch are History/Science Channels & Discovery & National Geographic

These channels all have a liberal/leftist bent.

darwin-t on May 31, 2011 at 10:26 AM

I do wonder how the gays that post on Hot Air square their contempt with the Liberal message, knowing full well that it (the entertainment industry) has been the key tool in presenting their lifestyle in an almost virtuous light. Quite the paradox.

hawkdriver on May 31, 2011 at 10:26 AM

One very good reason to do what I do. Watch ‘Fox’ or Korean Dramas with my wife. All other channels are viewed with the sound off and no closed captioning.

Why, because my wife does not like me communicating with something else instead of her(how and what I say is yours to imagine, not fit to print).

MSGTAS on May 31, 2011 at 10:26 AM

I will not watch due to the actor/actress.

marinetbryant on May 31, 2011 at 10:21 AM

If Fonda comes on the screen I click her off pretty fast. I don’t pay to watch her at the theater or rent her movies and there is no reason I should be subjected to watching her on the small screen. The folks who program television and make movies are so freakin out of touch with the American Public. They might as well be making and distributing movies out of Communist China. The Chinese pirate their movies anyhow it might make the system run smoother GRIN.

Dr Evil on May 31, 2011 at 10:29 AM

rbj on May 31, 2011 at 10:23 AM

About all I watch are History/Science Channels & Discovery & National Geographic

These channels all have a liberal/leftist bent.

darwin-t on May 31, 2011 at 10:26 AM

Not blatant…sometimes it seems that way. History and Discovery heve gone downhill recently tho…the days of really good documentaries seem in the past, and especially History has been reduced to crud shows like “Larry the Cable Guy’s America” and “Swamp People” and such. Although I do like “Pawn Stars”.

JetBoy on May 31, 2011 at 10:33 AM

These channels all have a liberal/leftist bent.

darwin-t on May 31, 2011 at 10:26 AM

Which I know and ignore. What’s funny is watching The Little Ice Age on History. They do a very good job of documenting climate change, throughout history, and then suddenly announce that the current warm up is man-made. Um, you just said there was one abrupt warmup of several degrees in a ten year period. But suddenly the current gradual one is caused by man? It’s real easy to pick out that stupidness.

rbj on May 31, 2011 at 10:34 AM

Secret? I could tell Avatar was anti-military from the damn trailer. Which is why I am one of the ten people in this world who wouldn’t go see that trash.

search4truth on May 31, 2011 at 10:03 AM

What are we down to now? Number 5 or number 4? Count me on that list.

Dr. Conservative on May 31, 2011 at 10:35 AM

There is very little ‘Secret’ about all this.

Liberals think conservatives are stupid. In Law and Order for example, the subtle messages gradually became more blatent to the point of insult when the powers that be felt they weren’t getting through.

It’s no surprise they feel Fox, Beck and Limbaugh are beneath contempt.

TimBuk3 on May 31, 2011 at 10:44 AM

You can’t get away from trash TV, Geraldo for crying out loud.

Libs can’t stand it when both sides are shown, imagine how they’d react if an actually opposing TV component existed in everyone’s homes?

I hope 100 million copies are sold, that’s just a good start.

Do like the libs do, write a cutesy title and then pour on political message, in a sitcom, let them eat ridicule.

Speakup on May 31, 2011 at 10:48 AM

I still cherish my worn copy of “Gods of the Antenna” originally written in 1976 by the brilliant Bruce Herschensohn. It was a landmark book on the liberal media republished in 2000 and, sadly, it remains relevant today. You can buy it from Amazon.

Terrie on May 31, 2011 at 10:49 AM

Secret? I could tell Avatar was anti-military from the damn trailer. Which is why I am one of the ten people in this world who wouldn’t go see that trash.

search4truth on May 31, 2011 at 10:03 AM

Ditto that. Does that make it 11 people?

Christian Conservative on May 31, 2011 at 10:50 AM

Yep. What better way to indoctrinate the masses than via popular culture? Between Hollywood and music we boomers have been victims of leftist propaganda since the 50s. My favorite example is Pete Seeger, the Communist Propagandist whose songs dominated the radio waves of my childhood.

Buy Danish on May 31, 2011 at 10:55 AM

I watch very little television – Regular shows; Castle, Chuck, White Collar. Only turn TV on when I specifically know what I want to watch is on. For news; Neal Cavuto is #1 for me.

Dasher on May 31, 2011 at 10:55 AM

Secret? I could tell Avatar was anti-military from the damn trailer. Which is why I am one of the ten people in this world who wouldn’t go see that trash.

search4truth on May 31, 2011 at 10:03 AM

Me, too.

That crappy ScreenVison commercial thing before all the movies now is as lefty as can be. I was subjected to and Ed Schultz ‘Lean Forward’ ad and an ad for some award show that featured Will Farrell liplocking another dude. Before Pirates of the Caribbean! I complained to the theater manager, the chain and ScreenVision how inappropriate that was to precede a movie marketed to young people. For all the good it will do. I’m sure they are having a good laugh on me. It’s harder and harder to tolerate going to the movies and even worse when you go and are sandbagged before the feature.

sandspur on May 31, 2011 at 10:58 AM

I also never have seen and never will see Avatar.

People always talk about movies and are shocked when I admit I haven’t seen this one or that one.

I can’t put aside my personal dislike and disdain for the current crop of stars and will not give them one dime of my money.

Jvette on May 31, 2011 at 11:02 AM

(Thought Control!)

Oh yes it is!

It is just more insidious than a dictatorship.

I know so many of them on both coasts that I would love to get partial funding to prove that they are wired to think that way. I have shrinks and I have some funds. I need some guidance. Scary since they lead opinion.

IlikedAUH2O on May 31, 2011 at 11:03 AM

All of the real villains i have met in my adult life have followed a similar brain pattern. They are drug dealers, drug users, welfare babies, corrupt local politicians, people who live in the government funded entitlement culture. People who steal from others and contribute nothing themselves.

Yet when I watch TV the villains are always “evil white businessman” or “evil white clergyman” or “evil white military man”. The welfare folks, the drug users, and the local politicians are always portrayed as victims or heroes. Politicians do occasionally get portrayed badly, but the writers usually bend over backwards to make sure we know they are “Southern” guys or “corporate” guys.

tflst5 on May 31, 2011 at 11:11 AM

Secret? I could tell Avatar was anti-military from the damn trailer. Which is why I am one of the ten people in this world who wouldn’t go see that trash.

search4truth on May 31, 2011 at 10:03 AM

search4truth,

You mean, along with you and me, there are eight (8) other people out there who would never, and have never watched that movie, “Avatar?”

Have you ever noticed how frequently Hollywood celebrities, actors and actresses, take parts in movies in which they engage in extremely brutal, sadistic, explicit violence, yet the preach to the rest of us about non-violence, as if they are sweet, innocent little saints who follow Mohandas Ghandi?

What a bunch of dishonest, insincere, mean spirited, extremely rich, well known, arrogant people!

They tell us how we are so evil and violence, yet they make millions perpetrating and spreading violence in their movies!

William2006 on May 31, 2011 at 11:13 AM

I have been a fan of this young man for a long time now.

Shapiro was brought up in the home of two Reagan Republicans, where intelligent conversation about politics and philosophy was encouraged.

He entered UCLA at the age of 16 and graduated in June 2004 with a B.A. in Political Science. He went to HARVARD LAW SCHOOL!!!!!!

Never afraid to antagonize his political opposition, he was the only counter-protester at an Affirmative Action Rally that drew over 1,500 people on UCLA’s campus, and he has repeatedly challenged liberal professors and faculty.

As a staunch conservative on the modern politically correct campus, Ben Shapiro faces the political liberals head-on. From exposing the leftist tilt of the professoriate on college campuses to addressing the conflict in the Middle East, Shapiro’s confrontational approach always draws a hailstorm of response.

I FLIPPIN’ LOVE THIS KID!!! Support him and buy this book. He is the future of this country and changing young progressive Jewish minds.

The kid’s got a pair!

Jayrae on May 31, 2011 at 11:14 AM

Many of you miss the larger point in that while the bias is noticeable to us it is changing America into a place where Obama can become president.

GardenGnome on May 31, 2011 at 11:14 AM

his supposed position as “the head of the Republican Party,” a position I’m sure Rush never sought or claimed:

Well, yeah. Since Rush says (all the time) “I’m not a Republican”.

Squiggy on May 31, 2011 at 11:16 AM

Warning to Darwin-t: I’m about to mention something from my past that is relevant to the topic.

Now-I spent two years @ the Chicago Academy For the Arts(Chicago School of the Arts). My freshman year the music department head -Don Nally-now head of choruses at the Lyric Opera of Chicago-informed me that the only reason that I wanted Reagan to win(it was in ’84) was because my parents supported him. I was going through a phase and since I was Jewish I was certain to grow-up to be an enlightened progressive.

Obviously-he didn’t know jack.
Don is aware of my politics -as an adult-and he and most people from my years at the Academy won’t have anything to do with me-I KNOW many of them have FB accounts-because since I lean right and don’t have a college education I’m beneath them.
We are ALL beneath them.
One of my former classmates went as far as hacking my FB Tea Party photos(taken in 2009) this year so he could tag them with vile comments.
Pepooe in the entertainment industry are elitists whose noses are so far up in the air that they don’t realize how low they’ve sunk.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 31, 2011 at 11:16 AM

Although I do like “Pawn Stars”.

JetBoy on May 31, 2011 at 10:33 AM

Rick Harrison is CUTE!

annoyinglittletwerp on May 31, 2011 at 11:18 AM

I didn’t see Avatar either, that whack job Cameron, NO THANKS..

There are so many actors now that I refuse to watch.. It is so blantant anymore it’s pathetic.

http://www.boycottliberalism.com/Dishonorable-mention.htm

reshas1 on May 31, 2011 at 11:18 AM

The creepiest thing for me is when a liberal will wallow in their disdain for some conservative, laughing, cackling even, a virtual orgasm of scorn. (George Schlatter re: Rush Limbaugh) That’s not any way to act towards a fellow human being. After all, he might turn into a liberal some day, and become part of your tribe. Then you’ll feel bad for what you did. OK, with Rush Limbaugh, it’s not likely. :)

Paul-Cincy on May 31, 2011 at 11:18 AM

William2006 on May 31, 2011 at 11:13 AM

Me and mine haven’t seen Avatar either.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 31, 2011 at 11:19 AM

I also never have seen and never will see Avatar.

People always talk about movies and are shocked when I admit I haven’t seen this one or that one.

I can’t put aside my personal dislike and disdain for the current crop of stars and will not give them one dime of my money.

Jvette on May 31, 2011 at 11:02 AM

BINGO.. Me neither. Funny also, most of the actors say they don’t let their kids watch TV.. I remember Madonna saying it, so they will foist that crap on our kids, but won’t let their kids watch it.

reshas1 on May 31, 2011 at 11:21 AM

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