Bad news: Media “confused” by Palin’s bus tour; Update: Tour to include stops in Iowa

posted at 2:45 pm on May 30, 2011 by Allahpundit

I’m less confused than they are, but there is one aspect of it that I don’t get.

Day 2 of Sarah Palin’s bus tour, and the former vice presidential nominee has prompted little more than confusion at exactly what she is up to.

Palin started Memorial Day at the National Archives in Washington, but the only reporters who made it to her brief media availability there were those who happened to see tourists posting on Twitter that they had spotted her…

For supporters and reporters looking for more details, Palin isn’t providing. Palin’s staff has been either unresponsive to reporters’ requests or told them to check the SarahPAC website, which only updates with information after she’s stopped somewhere.

CNN reported Monday that some of Palin’s supporters had already started to gather midday at Gettysburg in hopes that she might be on her way. But by then, Palin’s bus was rolling into Mount Vernon instead.

The Times snarks that, notwithstanding the branded bus she’s riding around in and the obvious campaign implications of a tour that’s destined for New Hampshire, she’s “made it quite clear that she just wants to be left alone.” Which isn’t really true: She’s been chatting with supporters along the way but keeping her interactions with the media scrum that’s following her around to a minimum. Why make a huge press splash by announcing a tour of the country’s major historical sites and then not do any media availabilities or photo ops with local pols along the way? Time’s Jay Newton-Small speculates:

Where does she go next? North –her staff will say nothing more. Political reporters have fanned out from Antietam to Gettysburg on Sunday afternoon in anticipation of her next potential stop. Congratulations, Sarah Palin, you have turned the Washington press corps into a bunch of paparazzi stalking your every move.

As Palin moves up the East Coast, ending her trip in politically important New Hampshire, the press seems poised to follow. I would say Palin’s goal is to torture the “lame stream media,” but there may be more going through her mind. In many ways, it’s a smart ploy. The frustration and time spent looking for Palin, only to have her say next to nothing, is driving the press wild. Even if it yields few stories, Palin still controls her own message by blogging the trip herself, and forcing everyone to check her website to see what she’s saying and where she’s going.

The goal of the road trip seems to be two fold: 1) to bring the attention back to her after months of laying low, and 2) raise money for her political acti0n committee ahead of June’s Federal Election Commission reporting deadline.

Exactly. She needed the media to help put the word out about the bus tour, but once that mission was accomplished, she made SarahPAC a near-exclusive outlet for coverage. The photos of her at the National Archives posted there right now are, in fact, exclusive from what I can tell. It’s very much Palin’s M.O. to want to reach her supporters directly, without any media filter, so that makes sense. And like Newton-Small says, it’s smart politics to elevate SarahPAC’s profile given the prominence of the “Donate” button on the site. (Even the bus tour pop-up that greets you there contains a donation link.) If she’s serious about running, she’ll have to bankroll the campaign through small contributions. Pegging the bus tour to the website now is a shrewd way to nudge her supporters into thinking about that.

Or maybe it’s even more than that:

Sarah Palin’s “One Nation” Bus Tour launched Sunday, but is it an unofficial exploratory phase for a potential 2012 run or is it a Palin family vacation stopping in historic sites in the Northeast? The answer may well be both.

According to a source with knowledge of Palin’s operation and thinking, keep a careful eye on how long the tour lasts, because it is intended as a way to test the presidential waters. If the road trip ends abruptly, it’s a sign she didn’t get the enthusiastic responses she believes she needs to launch a campaign. If the tour heads to regions outside of the Northeast like Iowa and South Carolina that, the source says, is a “big indicator” that Palin will pull the trigger.

If that’s true, that she’s using the tour to gauge grassroots interest in her candidacy, then they must be keeping a close eye on the daily donation take too. It’s a better indicator of enthusiasm than the crowds at the tour stops, needless to say, since it’s immune from bad weather, people having other plans over the holiday, etc. Which brings me to the one aspect of this that I don’t understand: Why not announce her itinerary in advance on the SarahPAC website? Having huge crowds of supporters waiting to meet her at each stop would make for dynamite photo ops, especially in contrast to the palpable lack of excitement surrounding Romney and Pawlenty. Could be she’s worried that announcing the schedule in advance would also bring out the Palin critics, but that’s an unavoidable risk for any pol making a public appearance. Plus, her supporters are famously more devoted than most politicians’; I’d bet cash money that the cheers from local supporters would swamp any boos along the way. Why not give them a heads up?

Update: Another big Palin scoop for RCP, which obviously has an inside track with SarahPAC:

Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin will travel to Iowa next month as part of her nationwide bus tour, two sources with direct knowledge of the plan told RealClearPolitics…

Though Palin has insisted that her “One Nation” bus tour — being kicked off from Washington over the holiday weekend — is intended merely to “highlight America’s foundation,” RCP has learned that the road trip was designed as a test run to find out whether she can execute a decidedly unconventional campaign game plan.

Palin — and especially her husband, Todd — is said to be leaning toward running. But multiple sources said that their foremost remaining concern was whether it would be logistically feasible for their large family to hit the road together for the next several months in a prospective campaign that would rely heavily on bus travel.

The Shushannah Walshe piece that I quoted above also called the bus tour a test run — and said that if it detoured to Iowa, that’d be a “big indicator” that she was in. On the other hand, we already knew that the “Undefeated” movie would debut in Iowa next month; although there was no confirmation that Palin would attend the opening (RCP’s story about the movie claimed “Palin aides have not yet decided whether the former governor will play an active role in the film’s premiere”), it’s no great surprise that she might, in which case it makes sense that the bus tour might end up there. Smoking gun that she’s running or not?


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Do you recall the last time Obama gave a full pc? Or Bush? They’re not that common anymore. Clinton loved them but neither the current nor the former president had much use for them.

alwaysfiredup on May 30, 2011 at 11:50 PM

They both gave real PCs. When they campaigned, they told the media where they be and when. They answered questions and debated successfully enough to be elected.

toliver on May 30, 2011 at 11:57 PM

They answered questions and debated successfully enough to be elected.

toliver on May 30, 2011 at 11:57 PM

Indeed they did. That doesn’t mean their press conferences were particularly good or free-wheeling. That just means they got people to come out and vote for them. Not all voters care much about wonkery.

It also doesn’t mean that Palin won’t give you excatly what you seek…in a campaign.

alwaysfiredup on May 31, 2011 at 12:00 AM

Are these for her alone or for everybody else? I don’t see you clogging Romney threads demanding he go on network shows.

promachus on May 30, 2011 at 11:56 PM

Romney sucks.

toliver on May 31, 2011 at 12:01 AM

Indeed they did. That doesn’t mean their press conferences were particularly good or free-wheeling. That just means they got people to come out and vote for them. Not all voters care much about wonkery.

It also doesn’t mean that Palin won’t give you excatly what you seek…in a campaign.

alwaysfiredup on May 31, 2011 at 12:00 AM

Going to NH and Iowa in a politically painted bus is a campaign. We’ll see what she does.

toliver on May 31, 2011 at 12:03 AM

oh so this is where the ABPP have been hanging out tonight…..

unseen on May 31, 2011 at 12:13 AM

Going to NH and Iowa in a politically painted bus is a campaign. We’ll see what she does.

toliver on May 31, 2011 at 12:03 AM

nah its a public service message….

unseen on May 31, 2011 at 12:14 AM

toliver on May 30, 2011 at 11:57 PM

Private person? Has not declared? She does not have to do jack to please you. Your beloved media is furious. Yet they will hover with helicoptors for hours on end for a carjacker.. But they can’t find her bus.

katy the mean old lady on May 31, 2011 at 12:15 AM

nah its a public service message….

unseen on May 31, 2011 at 12:14 AM

She’s running. Put that in the bank. Prepare your typing fingers for blisters and arthritis.

toliver on May 31, 2011 at 12:16 AM

Private person? Has not declared? She does not have to do jack to please you. Your beloved media is furious. Yet they will hover with helicoptors for hours on end for a carjacker.. But they can’t find her bus.

katy the mean old lady on May 31, 2011 at 12:15 AM

I don’t like the MSM, but one has to deal with them.

You compare a police action with a multi-state campaign? Please.

toliver on May 31, 2011 at 12:19 AM

Oh come on, that was just funny.

AJsDaddie on May 30, 2011 at 9:03 PM

Why?

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 12:19 AM

She’s running. Put that in the bank. Prepare your typing fingers for blisters and arthritis.

toliver on May 31, 2011 at 12:16 AM

nah once she is in most of my time will be walking door to door signing up voters, gotv, phone calls, raisnng money…..

unseen on May 31, 2011 at 12:35 AM

nah once she is in most of my time will be walking door to door signing up voters, gotv, phone calls, raisnng money…..

unseen on May 31, 2011 at 12:35 AM

I will take the torch from you, thank you very much.

promachus on May 31, 2011 at 12:54 AM

Going to NH and Iowa in a politically painted bus is a campaign.
toliver on May 31, 2011 at 12:03 AM

The bus isn’t “politically painted,” unless you think images of the Liberty Bell with a legend that says “One Nation under God” and an image of the Constitution with a large “We the People” are political.
Can’t see that there’s anything about any political party on her bus.

Jenfidel on May 31, 2011 at 1:21 AM

Jenfidel on May 31, 2011 at 1:21 AM

The “Fundamental Restoration” part is pretty political, especially if you listened to the impromptu interview she gave in Gettysburg. That was a pretty strong jab at Teh One.

rmel80 on May 31, 2011 at 3:24 AM

Why not give them a heads up?

BEcause even without a headsup, there’s an immense crowd waiting for her at Gettysburg and other places.

promachus on May 31, 2011 at 3:29 AM

promachus on May 31, 2011 at 3:29 AM

Amazing isn’t it that the question, “Why should she give them a heads up?” hasn’t crossed their mind?

rmel80 on May 31, 2011 at 3:36 AM

The “Fundamental Restoration” part is pretty political, especially if you listened to the impromptu interview she gave in Gettysburg. That was a pretty strong jab at Teh One.

rmel80 on May 31, 2011 at 3:24 AM

It’s not Sarah that’s made the destruction of America political such that it has to be restored, but 0bama.
Let the chips fall where they may and may the best woman win in 2012.

Jenfidel on May 31, 2011 at 3:46 AM

Jenfidel on May 31, 2011 at 3:46 AM

I totally agree. I was just pointing out that the paint job isn’t totally devoid of some politics. Plus, I think that considering how many Americans say that the Obowmao administration is on the “Wrong Track” it is very astute to have included it on the bus. When America sees it they’re likely to think, “yeah, we should be restoring it, not transforming it into something we don’t recognize and don’t want.”

rmel80 on May 31, 2011 at 3:57 AM

I was just pointing out that the paint job isn’t totally devoid of some politics.

rmel80 on May 31, 2011 at 3:57 AM

If we’ve reached the point where the phrases “One Nation…” and “We the people” and the images of the Liberty Bell and Constitution are “political,” where 1 party embraces them and the other does not, we’re going to need quite a lot of Restoration!

Jenfidel on May 31, 2011 at 4:19 AM

My take.

kingsjester on May 31, 2011 at 7:34 AM

Romney sucks.

toliver on May 31, 2011 at 12:01 AM

Indeed. I can’t believe that his supporters have seen the ethanol quote and have stayed course. It’s pathetic.

Levinite on May 31, 2011 at 7:37 AM

The NRO page has a poll: “should Sarah run” … she’s under 40% right now … palinistas, palians and palindrones should get over there and vote!!!

gh on May 31, 2011 at 8:12 AM

NRO home page …

http://www.nationalreview.com/

gh on May 31, 2011 at 8:16 AM

The kids are probably out of school for the summer. Only 2 of them need to go home (AZ?) in Sept to start back. That leaves Trig to be taken care of while Mom campaigns during the summer. Sarah knows what she’s doing.

Kissmygrits on May 31, 2011 at 9:07 AM

ROFL:

The Palin family and a few members of her staff snuck out of their hotel early, leaving their flashy bus behind in the hotel parking lot to give reporters chasing her the impression that she was still readying for the day.

As members of Palin’s advance staff began to roll out luggage to the bus on Tuesday morning, a crush of media and tourists gathered to meet the potential presidential candidate on her way out of the hotel.

But CNN was soon tipped off that Palin was long gone, off to visit the Civil War battlefields and onward toward Philadelphia.

unseen on May 31, 2011 at 9:21 AM

Exactly who announced this bus tour? If Sarah did, she must have known the media would follow her. If she wanted her privacy, why make a big deal out of it to begin with? Is it just to tweak the media? Is it to be overly contrary so her supporters will get all riled up and flood the internet or to donate to her PAC? Is it to test whether she can bypass the media and still get her message out accurately?

I think the reasons she is handling this the way she is a good question to ask.

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 9:44 AM

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 9:44 AM

She is so far above you level in strategic thinking she make syou look like a child….

unseen on May 31, 2011 at 9:47 AM

I think the reasons she is handling this the way she is a good question to ask.

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 9:44 AM

Nice sentence structure. Calm down. Breathe deeply. Enjoy the ride and the strategery.

kingsjester on May 31, 2011 at 9:48 AM

http://www.sarahpac.com/posts/gettysburg-battlefield-gettysburg-pa-5-slash-31-slash-11

I was at that precise spot; there was this nasty black 5 ft. snake slithering under the rocks. I got it on video. It was freakin’ kewl!

There was another family who filmed what I filmed on the camcorder. Thank God that snake didn’t change its mind and stayed hidden – kids would’ve been hurt from jumping off rocks.

ProudPalinFan on May 31, 2011 at 9:54 AM

nah once she is in most of my time will be walking door to door signing up voters, gotv, phone calls, raisnng money…..

unseen on May 31, 2011 at 12:35 AM

*gasp* PALIN OPERATIVE!!!ONE!!1!!

fossten on May 31, 2011 at 9:57 AM

My take.

kingsjester on May 31, 2011 at 7:34 AM

Pretty close! ;)

ProudPalinFan on May 31, 2011 at 10:00 AM

So the disconnect between why she announced her tour and sneaking away so the media doesn’t bother her is……what? Brilliance? Maybe she is doing what Obama did in 2008, being just vague enough so her supporters will assign her motivations? Because we know, as we have seen, that they always assign the most flattering motivations.

If she announced so her fans could follow her around she should have a schedule posted online.

If she wanted to be left alone, she would not have announced.

If she wanted to pi$$ off the media, she would have announced, not posted a schedule, and then sneaked out the back door to avoid them.

Could it be that assigning any kind of motivation, pro or con, is just a sign of being manipulated by her?

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 10:03 AM

ProudPalinFan on May 31, 2011 at 10:00 AM

Thanks. I try:)

kingsjester on May 31, 2011 at 10:05 AM

Nice sentence structure. Calm down. Breathe deeply. Enjoy the ride and the strategery.

kingsjester on May 31, 2011 at 9:48 AM

Enjoy the manipulation.

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 10:05 AM

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 10:03 AM

here bone up on your education:

http://suntzusaid.com/

unseen on May 31, 2011 at 10:08 AM

The NRO page has a poll: “should Sarah run” … she’s under 40% right now … palinistas, palians and palindrones should get over there and vote!!!

gh on May 31, 2011 at 8:12 AM

Stick to inbreeding over here. You have no friends at NRO.

Levinite on May 31, 2011 at 10:08 AM

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 10:03 AM

And , if her itinerary was set in stone, all sorts of nutjobs, like Code Pink, or worse, could grasp the opportunity for their own purposes, media ambushes aside. I seem to recall another politician who went straight to the American people, bypassing the Media, the elite, and the pundits, when he wanted to get his message across unfiltered. What was that guy’s name again? He appeared in movies with a chimp…

kingsjester on May 31, 2011 at 10:08 AM

Enjoy the manipulation.

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 10:05 AM

Enjoy your bitterness. Kleenex?

kingsjester on May 31, 2011 at 10:09 AM

cseven, your concern for conservatives is touching. I’m in tears.

faraway on May 31, 2011 at 10:10 AM

The art of war, then, is governed by five constant factors, to be taken into account in one’s deliberations, when seeking to determine the conditions obtaining in the field. #

These are: (1) The Moral Law; (2) Heaven; (3) Earth; (4) The Commander; (5) Method and discipline. #

The MORAL LAW causes the people to be in complete accord with their ruler, so that they will follow him regardless of their lives, undismayed by any danger. #

HEAVEN signifies night and day, cold and heat, times and seasons. #

EARTH comprises distances, great and small; danger and security; open ground and narrow passes; the chances of life and death. #

The COMMANDER stands for the virtues of wisdom, sincerity, benevolence, courage and strictness. #

By METHOD AND DISCIPLINE are to be understood the marshaling of the army in its proper subdivisions, the graduations of rank among the officers, the maintenance of roads by which supplies may reach the army, and the control of military expenditure. #
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These five heads should be familiar to every general: he who knows them will be victorious; he who knows them not will fail.

unseen on May 31, 2011 at 10:12 AM

kingsjester on May 31, 2011 at 10:08 AM

That still doesn’t explain why she announced it to the media in the first place.

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 10:16 AM

unseen on May 31, 2011 at 10:08 AM

Those who view Sarah as unfavorable are not her enemy.

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 10:18 AM

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 10:16 AM

Why not? It’s her tour and her message. Their spin.

kingsjester on May 31, 2011 at 10:18 AM

That still doesn’t explain why she announced it to the media in the first place.

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 10:16 AM

This obsession you have with Palin is not healthy. We are worried for you. Get some sleep.

faraway on May 31, 2011 at 10:20 AM

That still doesn’t explain why she announced it to the media in the first place.

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 10:16 AM

When did she announce it to the media?

darwin on May 31, 2011 at 10:21 AM

Those who view Sarah as unfavorable are not her enemy.

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 10:18 AM

the vast majority are socialits. so yeah most are her enemy…

unseen on May 31, 2011 at 10:21 AM

Stick to inbreeding over here. You have no friends at NRO.

Levinite on May 31, 2011 at 10:08 AM

funny … poll is now: 50/44/6 (y/n/dc).

NRO is about 50/50 on Palin.

gh on May 31, 2011 at 10:23 AM

Enjoy your bitterness. Kleenex?

kingsjester on May 31, 2011 at 10:09 AM

You should reexamine your assumptions. The skeptics do not feel the opposite level of intensity as the Palin supporters do. She is simply the candidate getting the most play on Hot Air at this time. There are events happening in Libya, Florida, the NBA, MLB, Afghanistan, Hockey, Blago, Yemen, Pakistan, Romney, Perry, Snyder, Paul, etc. that the rest of the world are watching.

The room the oxygen is getting sucked out of by Palin stories is here at Hot Air.

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 10:26 AM

It’s her tour and her message. Their spin.

kingsjester on May 31, 2011 at 10:18 AM

Okay…….why announce if she didn’t want her family to be bothered?

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 10:28 AM

the vast majority are socialits. so yeah most are her enemy…

unseen on May 31, 2011 at 10:21 AM

Then how is she going to convince them to support her in the general election if she is going to disrespect them for the next year and a half?

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 10:29 AM

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 10:26 AM

I don’t know I think people that make common cause with the left wing of this country isn’t really any better than the left wing themselves. I have yet to see you anklebiters give Gov Palin sinmple respect. And treat her like any other politican.

As far as the O2 Mitt was on NBC this mornign. He is hoping that Palin sucks the O2 out of the room so his bomb of an interview goes down the memory hole.

unseen on May 31, 2011 at 10:30 AM

Then how is she going to convince them to support her in the general election if she is going to disrespect them for the next year and a half?

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 10:29 AM

By explaining to the useful idiots how the socialists are using them.

unseen on May 31, 2011 at 10:31 AM

By explaining to the useful idiots how the socialists are using them.

unseen on May 31, 2011 at 10:31 AM

Please start with deven. The poor girl is here trolling 24 hours a day with no sleep, trying to get her man Obama re-elected.

faraway on May 31, 2011 at 10:32 AM

. The skeptics do not feel the opposite level of intensity as the Palin supporters do.

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 10:26 AM

Oh, b.s. You and other Palin-deranged types here hit every Palin thread with dozens and dozens of repetitions of essentially the same post. You went at it for seemingly 24 hours straight recently.

pseudoforce on May 31, 2011 at 10:33 AM

When did she announce it to the media?

darwin on May 31, 2011 at 10:21 AM

I think it was on the 26th. Tim Crawford gave the story to RCP.

Now if she starts complaining about the media attention, well that will cast even more skepticism on her motives.

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 10:34 AM

You should reexamine your assumptions. The skeptics do not feel the opposite level of intensity as the Palin supporters do. She is simply the candidate getting the most play on Hot Air at this time. There are events happening in Libya, Florida, the NBA, MLB, Afghanistan, Hockey, Blago, Yemen, Pakistan, Romney, Perry, Snyder, Paul, etc. that the rest of the world are watching.

The room the oxygen is getting sucked out of by Palin stories is here at Hot Air.

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 10:26 AM

You start with a statement about how you skeptics are above it all and finish with a poorly constructed statement about how the oxygen is being sucked out of HA.

Deflect much?

kingsjester on May 31, 2011 at 10:37 AM

By explaining to the useful idiots how the socialists are using them.

unseen on May 31, 2011 at 10:31 AM

So the socialist voters are only socialist because the media tells them to be? And how exactly are these brainwashed fools going to be convinced listen to one single word Sarah has to say? Is the socialist media going to tell them to go to SarahPAC or Fox news to get the truth?

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 10:38 AM

that will cast even more skepticism on her motives.

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 10:34 AM

Speaking of skepticism…. Concern trolling is very hard to pull off and be believable. You are not very good at it. I give you a solid D-.

faraway on May 31, 2011 at 10:39 AM

I have nothing to add that hasn’t already been said! LOL

Amjean on May 31, 2011 at 10:40 AM

So the socialist voters are only socialist because the media tells them to be? And how exactly are these brainwashed fools going to be convinced listen to one single word Sarah has to say? Is the socialist media going to tell them to go to SarahPAC or Fox news to get the truth?

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 10:38 AM

the same way reagan did. By going around the media gatekeepers. further Palin is making the media look like fools and highlighting their sloppy reporting placing the idea of not to trust the media in their heads.

unseen on May 31, 2011 at 10:41 AM

The room the oxygen is getting sucked out of by Palin stories is here at Hot Air.

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 10:26 AM

So stop sucking.

gh on May 31, 2011 at 10:42 AM

So stop sucking.

gh on May 31, 2011 at 10:42 AM

hehe, winner

faraway on May 31, 2011 at 10:44 AM

The room the oxygen is getting sucked out of by Palin stories is here at Hot Air.

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 10:26 AM

On the other hand, Beckel continued, Palin benefits from a lukewarm reception to the GOP pool of contenders. And she has the ability to attract media cameras like a magnet.

“Do you think Rick Santorum would get this kind of attention?” Beckel asked of the media scrum that has surrounded Palin since she announced her bus tour last week.

“I’m sitting three blocks from where she is, and I feel the air coming out of this room,” Beckel said.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/05/30/palin-swings-national-archives-presidential-plans-remain-mystery/#ixzz1NwQnAFGc

unseen on May 31, 2011 at 10:45 AM

RealClearScott Scott Conroy
Palin says she does NOT support ethanol subsidies.
3 minutes ago

unseen on May 31, 2011 at 10:45 AM

You went at it for seemingly 24 hours straight recently.

pseudoforce on May 31, 2011 at 10:33 AM

Again, just because the Palin supporters are drawn to Sarah threads because of very intense feelings for her, doesn’t mean the skeptics are motivated from an opposite level. It is a mistake to project a level of intensity onto others by comparing them to their own feelings.

If you want to use anecdotal evidence to assign feelings of intensity, I suggest you look to the people who lose their cool and start name calling, insulting, and demeaning fellow commentators. These folks clearly are beyond controlling themselves or are so emotional they don’t care how others perceive them.

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 10:45 AM

gh on May 31, 2011 at 8:16 AM

She’s doing better now.

Akzed on May 31, 2011 at 10:48 AM

Again, just because the Palin supporters are drawn to Sarah threads because of very intense feelings for her, doesn’t mean the skeptics are motivated from an opposite level. It is a mistake to project a level of intensity onto others by comparing them to their own feelings.

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 10:45 AM

No, I gauge it by comment count. You post at least as often as Palinista unseen.

pseudoforce on May 31, 2011 at 10:49 AM

I suggest you look to the people who lose their cool and start name calling, insulting, and demeaning fellow commentators. These folks clearly are beyond controlling themselves or are so emotional they don’t care how others perceive them.

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 10:45 AM

You are so right..

I suggest you look to the people who lose their cool and start name calling, insulting, and demeaning fellow commentators. These folks clearly are beyond controlling themselves or are so emotional they don’t care how others perceive them.

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 10:45 AM

Devoted? Some of your fellow supporters have rushed headlong into deluded. Delusional. Deceived. Dumb.

csdeven on May 26, 2011 at 3:44 PM

No, you’re creepy

csdeven on May 26, 2011 at 3:59 PM

faraway on May 31, 2011 at 10:50 AM

kingsjester on May 31, 2011 at 10:37 AM

The level of excitement by some Palin supporters has increased in intensity when they talk about how no other candidates are being discussed. There are lots of stuff going on outside of Hot Air that should lead them to examine their belief that Hot Air is representative of all political discussion.

This is a blog that operates by charging advertisers. They sell space according to traffic. Palin threads, because of the pro and con Palin comments, are getting more hits than any other subject. So, the more Palin threads the better.

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 10:51 AM

ehh, I meant to paste this also

You moron! These fools are predisposed to embrace conspiracies because they are freaks. They have never met a conspiracy theory they didn’t like.

csdeven on May 26, 2011 at 4:04 PM

We deserve a better class of troll.

faraway on May 31, 2011 at 10:53 AM

No, I gauge it by comment count. You post at least as often as Palinista unseen.

pseudoforce on May 31, 2011 at 10:49 AM

Do you know me? No you do not. The only experiences you have to assign a motivation to me is your own experiences. So you are assigning a level of intensity to me that must be based on your own behavior.

Your assumption ignores the possibility of any other motivation to comment on a Palin thread. Well, I know that other possibilities exist because my motivation is not what you claim it is.

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 10:55 AM

I don’t think I owe anything to the mainstream media.” Sarah Palin announced to Fox news host Greta Van Susteren, who got an exclusive interview while riding on Sarah Palin’s tour bus. ” . . I want them to have to do a little bit of work on a tour like this and that would include not necessarily telling them beforehand where every stop is going to be,” she added, ” . . . the media can figure out where we’re going if they do their investigative work or they’re going to keep, kind of as you put it, going crazy trying to figure out what we’re doing here.”

While in Washington, the New York Times noted that a reporter yelled out, “Sarah, where are you going next?”

She quickly answered, “Mount Vernon.”

When the reporter asked “Now?” she answered, “Yes,” and then added, “You are a reporter, darn you!”

Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2011/05/sarah-palin-media-come-and-get-me?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed#ixzz1NwTQTlVM

I wonder how long it will take the press to figure out how to figure out where Palin is going. I guess they never bothered to ask her those questions…..

unseen on May 31, 2011 at 10:56 AM

the same way reagan did. By going around the media gatekeepers. further Palin is making the media look like fools and highlighting their sloppy reporting placing the idea of not to trust the media in their heads.

unseen on May 31, 2011 at 10:41 AM

Reagan took the LSM head on. He had the ability to get his message through because of his great skills as a communicator.

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 10:57 AM

Sarah’s going on a personel family tour of America in the very same manner that Paul Revere to his horse out for a casual stroll. She’s out to save America from it’s beltway red guard (on the right-Rove, Will, Krauthammer,) and all on the leftist/messiah media.

Sarah the huntress is stalking her quarry while dodging her predators who seem to be “confused” by th efact that she’s not falling into their trap.
The gatekeepers against the citizenry have been emasculated and metrosexualized.

Go Sarah -with the grace of God -go!

Don L on May 31, 2011 at 10:57 AM

The level of excitement by some Palin supporters has increased in intensity when they talk about how no other candidates are being discussed. There are lots of stuff going on outside of Hot Air that should lead them to examine their belief that Hot Air is representative of all political discussion.

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 10:51 AM

You’re right. Palin’s tour and future plans aren’t being discussed as much as Romney and Pawlenty at the moment. Those two are of greater interest right now. Of course.

pseudoforce on May 31, 2011 at 10:58 AM

Do you know me? No you do not. The only experiences you have to assign a motivation to me is your own experiences. So you are assigning a level of intensity to me that must be based on your own behavior.

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 10:55 AM

No, as I said, I base it on the fact that you literally camp out at Palin threads.

pseudoforce on May 31, 2011 at 10:59 AM

No, I gauge it by comment count. You post at least as often as Palinista unseen.

pseudoforce on May 31, 2011 at 10:49 AM

Yeah but I very really post the same crap twice. except when saying Palin is a reaganite……

unseen on May 31, 2011 at 11:00 AM

There are lots of stuff going on outside of Hot Air that should lead them to examine their belief that Hot Air is representative of all political discussion.

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 10:51 AM

Since you are obviously aware of all the ongoing excitement surrounding other potential candidates, perhaps you can provide a few links for our edification? I’d like to have some insight from enthusiastic supporters as to what they see in their men, rather than the constant nagging from PDSers.

littleguy on May 31, 2011 at 11:00 AM

Reagan took the LSM head on. He had the ability to get his message through because of his great skills as a communicator.

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 10:57 AM

Yeah he was calling them lamestream before calling them lamestream was cool……Seems that the level of Palin’s strong support is a great indication of Palin being able to do the same thing.

unseen on May 31, 2011 at 11:02 AM

Ooops. Is Sarah complaining about the media attention she is getting?

Wearing a visor and shorts to greet supporters and tourists outside her hotel, she played it coy when asked whether she would rather not have the press with her: “I think I don’t have a choice,” she said, adding, “We don’t want to disrupt people on their trips and on their vacations and make it chaotic for these good folks.”

She announced the tour and then claims she didn’t have a choice? Is that anything like making herself a lame duck and then complaining she can’t get anything done because she is a lame duck?

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 11:02 AM

She announced the tour and then claims she didn’t have a choice? Is that anything like making herself a lame duck and then complaining she can’t get anything done because she is a lame duck?

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 11:02 AM

The media don’t HAVE to follow her around, do they?

pseudoforce on May 31, 2011 at 11:07 AM

I don’t like the MSM, but one has to deal with them.

Then deal with them on one’s own terms, make them beg and plead to come to you. don’t surrender to their rules or premises. And tweak them whenever you can.

In other words, do what Palin’s been doing.
To just sit down and concede that they are the gatekeeper, when you know they are not going to treat you like they do their favored party – is dumb, and those on the Right to concede to it, deserve to fail as much as Obama does.

the media are not the ultimate keepers of truth, as much as they would like to be.

Sharr on May 31, 2011 at 11:10 AM

Heh, go to my blog (especially trolls!) because they need a refresher on the amount of crowds that she can gather.

ProudPalinFan on May 31, 2011 at 11:10 AM

I don’t like the MSM, but one has to deal with them.
toliver on May 31, 2011 at 12:19 AM

Explain exactly why? The media in this country doesn’t do it’s job anymore. Why should she kowtow to them when she has her own media outlets and is also talking directly to the people? She get’s her message out and let’s people think for themselves without Big Journalism’s spin on everything. It’s pure genius in it’s simplicity.

long_cat on May 31, 2011 at 11:10 AM

She’s doing better now.

Akzed on May 31, 2011 at 10:48 AM

Yup. Didn’t want to take any chances though ;-).

This is a blog that operates by charging advertisers. They sell space according to traffic. Palin threads, because of the pro and con Palin comments, are getting more hits than any other subject. So, the more Palin threads the better.

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 10:51 AM

What is your commission and how can we all get in on the deal ?

gh on May 31, 2011 at 11:11 AM

The media don’t HAVE to follow her around, do they?

pseudoforce on May 31, 2011 at 11:07 AM

She asked for the media scrum and now she is complaining.

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 11:11 AM

She announced the tour and then claims she didn’t have a choice? Is that anything like making herself a lame duck and then complaining she can’t get anything done because she is a lame duck?

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 11:02 AM

ROFL……she has you so messed up doesn’t she.

unseen on May 31, 2011 at 11:12 AM

She asked for the media scrum and now she is complaining.

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 11:11 AM

Please link to where she requested media coverage?

unseen on May 31, 2011 at 11:13 AM

The media don’t HAVE to follow her around, do they?

pseudoforce on May 31, 2011 at 11:07 AM

She asked for the media scrum and now she is complaining.

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 11:11 AM

Really? When did she ask for it? Why don’t the media dog Romney and Pawlenty instead?

pseudoforce on May 31, 2011 at 11:13 AM

No, as I said, I base it on the fact that you literally camp out at Palin threads.

pseudoforce on May 31, 2011 at 10:59 AM

You camp out at Palin threads because you are highly emotionalized to do so. I am not. I comment for other reasons.

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 11:13 AM

The media don’t HAVE to follow her around, do they?

pseudoforce on May 31, 2011 at 11:07 AM

She asked for the media scrum and now she is complaining.

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 11:11 AM

That wasn’t a complaint, it was a joke… dense…

What, she asked to be hounded and lied about? I don’t think so.

Sharr on May 31, 2011 at 11:14 AM

deven, I am truly worried for your health. Look outside. Take a walk. We could pray for you. What God do you pray to?

faraway on May 31, 2011 at 11:14 AM

I comment for other reasons.

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 11:13 AM

Who’s paying you ?

gh on May 31, 2011 at 11:15 AM

You camp out at Palin threads because you are highly emotionalized to do so.

For 24 hours straight? I’ve never been able to do that.

I am not. I comment for other reasons.

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 11:13 AM

What are those reasons, pray tell?

pseudoforce on May 31, 2011 at 11:16 AM

When did she ask for it? Why don’t the media dog Romney and Pawlenty instead?

pseudoforce on May 31, 2011 at 11:13 AM

The second she announced it rather than keep her vacation to herself.

Come on Sarah. If you’re going to basically yell fire in a crowed theater, then take responsibility for it. And if you’re going to make yourself a lame duck governor, then don’t complain because you are a lame duck governor.

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 11:25 AM

The second she announced it rather than keep her vacation to herself.

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 11:25 AM

She announces it on a website and then the media absolutely HAVE to follow her every move? That’s her fault?

pseudoforce on May 31, 2011 at 11:27 AM

Come on Sarah. If you’re going to basically yell fire in a crowed theater, then take responsibility for it. And if you’re going to make yourself a lame duck governor, then don’t complain because you are a lame duck governor.

csdeven on May 31, 2011 at 11:25 AM

SARAH BROKE THE LAW!!!!!!ONE!!!1!!

fossten on May 31, 2011 at 11:29 AM

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