Pawlenty: “We need to quit worrying about bus tours”

posted at 6:30 pm on May 27, 2011 by Tina Korbe

Republican presidential hopeful and former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty doesn’t care whether former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin decides to run for president — but he wishes everybody else would stop speculating about it.

GOP presidential candidate Tim Pawlenty said Friday that people should be less worried about Sarah Palin’s political future and more concerned about debating the issues.

Pawlenty was asked about his lagging poll numbers and whether he thinks Palin (R), the former Alaska governor, will enter the field, considering her upcoming nationwide bus tour.

“Who knows? I don’t know if she’s running or not,” Pawlenty said on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” during a campaign stop in New York City. “We need to quit worrying about polls and bus tours and get onto the issue of how we’re going to fix the country and get the country back on track.”

It’s too bad that Pawlenty’s not really in a position to say what he said without coming off as threatened — because he does have a point. Personality and presence won’t solve our nation’s problems — and every time a reporter questions a candidate about another presidential potential, the public misses a chance to learn a little more about the candidates’ actual positions. But substantive policy solutions alone won’t win the presidency, either. Who wants to eat cake with no icing?


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Governor Sarah Palin today accepted the recommendation of the Creamery Board to look at options to transition the Mat Maid Dairy into the private sector. The decision comes following a 10-week evaluation of the state’s oldest dairy by the Creamery Board and an appointed task force. Governor Palin replaced the Creamery Board earlier in the summer after Mat Maid executives announced the dairy would shut down without evaluating the consequences the closure would have had on the state’s dairy industry. The new board was charged with taking a fresh look at Mat Maid’s operations while cutting costs and increasing sales. Non-critical expenses were immediately cut in an effort to temporarily bring Matanuska Maid to a break-even point without using outside funds. “I applaud the hard work by the members of the Creamery Board and the task force,” said Governor Palin. “Because of recent market forces that are beyond our control, including the soaring price of outside milk, I agree with the board’s decision to look at other options for Mat Maid. “Continuing operations through the summer has put us in a better position to attract potential buyers. Privatizing Mat Maid will provide our local farmers with options, something they didn’t have three months ago, so I am please to accept the Board’s recommendation.”

steebo77 on May 28, 2011 at 4:07 AM

Gohawgs on May 28, 2011 at 4:02 AM

His explanation was weak sauce. True, not granting the pardon won’t prevent the guy from committing future crimes. But it can prevent him from opening a day care center which was the reason the pardon was requested and granted to begin with. At the very least it betrays poor political instincts.

Kataklysmic on May 28, 2011 at 4:09 AM

In August 2007, the Alaska Board of Agriculture and Conservation announced its decision to privatize Matanuska Maid Dairy, a state-run dairy enterprise. The 71-year old dairy was a private cooperative until 1985, when the state bought it out of bankruptcy. Over the past two years, Mat Maid has lost nearly $700,000. According to Board member Kristin Cole, the dairy should have been privatized a long-time ago as it “was never intended that the state be the owner of this asset long-term.”

steebo77 on May 28, 2011 at 4:09 AM

Hey Gohawgs, Yeah I forgot about that, they wouldn’t use that against him, would they? Another one’s gone, and another one’s gone, another one bites the dust!

bigmike on May 28, 2011 at 4:11 AM

AshleyTKing’s objection is the frigging dairy farm? So, Daniels runs billion dollar deficits while Bush budget director, Pawlenty supported cap n trade schemes but they are good decent picks for him but he objects to the horrible record of Palin because of the dairy farm? Unbelievable.

promachus on May 28, 2011 at 4:40 AM

bigmike on May 28, 2011 at 4:11 AM

At this point, I’m more concerned with his support for Cap & Tax/Man made global warming (his commercial w/Napolitano) followed by his change of heart/principle/policy before running for elected office (POTUS). Now, he’s added to his Mitt like floppery by announcing his wish to phase out ethanol subsidies after having signed legislation in MN to double (10-20) the mandated level of ethanol in gasoline beginning in ’13.

Gohawgs on May 28, 2011 at 4:40 AM

promachus on May 28, 2011 at 4:40 AM

Oops…slow down

Gohawgs on May 28, 2011 at 4:41 AM

Kataklysmic on May 28, 2011 at 3:34 AM

This is simply desperation on his part. Not courage. he’s going nowhere and this is hail mary but it’s not going to save him. if he loses Iowa, where’s he gonna gain?

promachus on May 28, 2011 at 4:44 AM

Gohawgs on May 28, 2011 at 4:41 AM

uh why?

promachus on May 28, 2011 at 4:45 AM

So , Wait, Pawlenty went on a bus tour BEFORE Palin? Hmmmm… I don’t believe anyone noticed. Maybe he should issue a press release or s”thing when he does stuff like that, or , I don’t know take a hostage or s’thing!

bigmike on May 28, 2011 at 4:45 AM

uh why?

promachus on May 28, 2011 at 4:45 AM

Because I forgot that RIF…I misread your post as Pawlenty was Bush’s OMB guy…

Gohawgs on May 28, 2011 at 4:49 AM

bigmike on May 28, 2011 at 4:45 AM

No silly he just cut clippings of all his various travels to primary states and named them Truth tour now that Sarah’s going on a bus. I tell you he’s gonna wear naughty monkeys next.

promachus on May 28, 2011 at 4:50 AM

Mitt tries out new attire ala AlBore circa 2000…Pawlenty tries to reinvent himself as a firebrand complete with statements that contradict his earlier actions as Gov. of MN…

Gohawgs on May 28, 2011 at 4:52 AM

Gohawgs on May 28, 2011 at 4:49 AM

That guy was on record supporting Daniels and Pawlenty. But he objects to a frigging dairy farm.

promachus on May 28, 2011 at 4:54 AM

I’m pretty sure Pawlenty’s problem is “lack of traction”, hell, Romney is brave enough to steal his lunch in Iowa. T-Paw’s got nothing happening for him.

bigmike on May 28, 2011 at 4:54 AM

bigmike on May 28, 2011 at 4:54 AM

Truth. Romney’s going to Iowa. That was what the subsidy pander was about. As long as he was not playing in Iowa, I was not worried about him. Now he’s getting to be a nuisance. If he wins Iowa, he wins NH, there’s no stopping him.

promachus on May 28, 2011 at 4:59 AM

Actually, all kidding aside, T-Paw should grow a mustache, it would boost his profile and set him apart from Romney. I’m not saying it to be funny or demeaning. Mitt has the perfect hair, and T-Paw can’t beat there , so grow a mustache Tim.

bigmike on May 28, 2011 at 5:02 AM

Romney has no evangelical cred in Iowa, he spent $10 million in Iowa in 2008 and got almost nothing from Iowa, meanwhile Palin is going to wind up in NH.

bigmike on May 28, 2011 at 5:06 AM

promachus on May 28, 2011 at 4:54 AM

He’s more anti-Palin than he is FOR anyone…

Gohawgs on May 28, 2011 at 5:07 AM

bigmike on May 28, 2011 at 5:02 AM

Mirror, Mirror

Gohawgs on May 28, 2011 at 5:11 AM

Yeah Ashley’s main thing is to kick Palin on all threads.

bigmike on May 28, 2011 at 5:16 AM

Yeah, Spock with a goatee, heh. T-Paw’s eyebrows don’t stand out so a mustache might help his face.

bigmike on May 28, 2011 at 5:20 AM

Old T-Paw just proved Rush’s wisdom (about the left.) They’ll always tell you what they fear…and it seems that the ruling-class right fears her even more. Picking on Sarah is the least fruitful way to get her many voters on your side when the chips are down. It’s a sure sign of this guys lack of judgement – unless, heh, heh, he’s going for his cloned friends – the RINO vote?

Don L on May 28, 2011 at 7:35 AM

annoyinglittletwerp on May 28, 2011 at 1:42 AM

Yes. I remember when it was much more respectful. I have committed to myself not to be part of the p[roblem.

csdeven on May 28, 2011 at 7:42 AM

And I appreciate your service, and the service of your sons.

John the Libertarian on May 28, 2011 at 2:31 AM

Thank you. I will pass that on.

csdeven on May 28, 2011 at 7:43 AM

It is curious that he is trying to poach her territory and not Romney’s. Wonder why.

promachus on May 27, 2011 at 6:41 PM

Perhaps -just perhaps, he’s in there to take her out?
I trust no one (except Sarah – honest, integrity, character, open moral consistency, love of country, couragous, and willing to take the cheap shots and beat the cheap shot tossers.

She’s been hit so hard and so often by the left and the right-but she’s still there up near the top.She makes the “comeback kid” look like a rank amature, and the pundits and media fools, for thinking she’s not running.

Don L on May 28, 2011 at 7:49 AM

“We need to quit worrying about polls and bus tours and get onto the issue of how we’re going to fix the country and get the country back on track.”

Pawlenty is in the right on this one. The media obsession, most notably with Palin, but even with any potential Republican challenger to Obama, is sickening…it’s almost like they’re sizing up the competition with baited breath, at the ready to do volunteer campaign work for the incumbent love-child of theirs.

Get the country back on track? T-Paw, you’re so quaint & adorable! Like they even give a flying fark about the ‘country’.

RepubChica on May 28, 2011 at 8:01 AM

This story has several twists and turns…

Gohawgs on May 28, 2011 at 4:02 AM

OMG – HE IS DONE !

What are these people thinking, and they want to be President? Same with Huck who released Maurice Clemmons and thousands of others (which I believe is the REAL reason he didn’t run)

You know hwat Sarah would do to a sex offender? Put antlers and a fur coat on him and release him into the wild on the first day of Moose-hunting season.

stenwin77 on May 28, 2011 at 8:22 AM

The 2 candidates that I believe have the best shot getting the Republican nomination as of now are T-Paw and Palin. If Palin decides not to run, then we are left with Romney possibly getting the nomination. I think T-Paw and Palin could both very well be the anti-Romney. Romney embodies the Republican establishment.

camtheman7 on May 28, 2011 at 8:24 AM

You can always find some form of dirt on a candidate if that’s all you’re looking for.
The media is going to slime whoever the republican nominee is, even if it not Sarah Palin.

camtheman7 on May 28, 2011 at 8:25 AM

This story has more than 900 comments. It has us talking and debating.

camtheman7 on May 28, 2011 at 8:25 AM

“We need to quit worrying about polls and bus tours and get onto the issue of how we’re going to fix the country and get the country back on track.”

T-Paw? The lady on the bus tour can multitask. Just sayin’…

Fallon on May 28, 2011 at 8:27 AM

annoyinglittletwerp on May 28, 2011 at 1:42 AM

Yes. I remember when it was much more respectful. I have committed to myself not to be part of the p[roblem.

csdeven on May 28, 2011 at 7:42 AM
Many of us have a difficult time respecting idiots.

Amjean on May 28, 2011 at 8:27 AM

Can’t we all just get along.

camtheman7 on May 28, 2011 at 8:31 AM

Why can’t we be friends?
Why can’t we be friends?
Why can’t we be friends?
Why can’t we be friends?

I seen you ’round for a long long time
I really ‘membered you when you drink my wine

Why can’t we be friends?
Why can’t we be friends?
Why can’t we be friends?
Why can’t we be friends?

I seen you walkin’ down in Chinatown
I called you but you could not look around

Why can’t we be friends?
Why can’t we be friends?
Why can’t we be friends?
Why can’t we be friends?

I bring my money to the welfare line
I see you standing in it every time

Why can’t we be friends?
Why can’t we be friends?
Why can’t we be friends?
Why can’t we be friends?

The color of your skin don’t matter to me
As long as we can live in harmony

Why can’t we be friends?
Why can’t we be friends?
Why can’t we be friends?
Why can’t we be friends?

I’d kinda like to be the President
so I can show you how your money’s spent

Why can’t we be friends?
Why can’t we be friends?
Why can’t we be friends?
Why can’t we be friends?

Sometimes I don’t speak too bright
but yet I know what I’m talking about

Why can’t we be friends?
Why can’t we be friends?
Why can’t we be friends?
Why can’t we be friends?

I know you’re working for the CIA
they wouldn’t have you in the Mafia

Why can’t we be friends?
Why can’t we be friends?
Why can’t we be friends?
Why can’t we be friends?

Why can’t we be friends?
Why can’t we be friends?
Why can’t we be friends?
Why can’t we be friends?

Why can’t we be friends?
Why can’t we be friends?
Why can’t we be friends?
Why can’t we be friends?

Why can’t we be friends?
Why can’t we be friends?
Why can’t we be friends?
Why can’t we be friends?

Why can’t we be friends?
Why can’t we be friends?
Why can’t we be friends?

camtheman7 on May 28, 2011 at 8:35 AM

My take.

kingsjester on May 28, 2011 at 8:35 AM

stebo77 – thanks for all the info on Alaska you have posted on this thread. Very helpful.

stenwin77 on May 28, 2011 at 8:36 AM

Good grief! Don’t any of these guys have their own self-confident self-made image of themselves, in other words a healthy ego?

Why are they feel so damn threatened by Palin? Is the beautiful woman syndrome?

Jeeeeepers creepers..!!

Somebody better give them their balls back, or they will have to be admitted when Palin comes riding into the race!!

Mcguyver on May 28, 2011 at 8:37 AM

My take.

kingsjester on May 28, 2011 at 8:35 AM

Good stuff. Having a “Truth Tour” or whatever himself, you’d think he wouldn’t be so ready to knock others. It could be frustration coupled with some foot-in mouth syndrome.

littleguy on May 28, 2011 at 8:46 AM

When he sees her numbers after she announces, he’ll find himself under her bus. New guys keep asking that question, ‘what do you think about this or that candidate entering the race’, if you asked me I’d say NO not her, I can’t win now. Too much niceness goin’ on.

Kissmygrits on May 28, 2011 at 9:00 AM

Just read something funny at C4P …..

Does Timmy’s response remind you of Jan Brady ???

Marsha, Marsh, Marsha ……. LMFAO

Jerome Horwitz on May 28, 2011 at 9:09 AM

Really, 941? We can’t push this puppy over 1,000 posts?

Just kidding, Happy Memorial Day Weekend! Stay safe!

Fallon on May 28, 2011 at 10:23 AM

Many of us have a difficult time respecting idiots.

Amjean on May 28, 2011 at 8:27 AM

Actually, most of the people who act disrespectful toward others are having a hard time respecting themselves. Like I have explained in the past, what we all say is a glimpse into who we are and what we find important. For example, in my case it is clear that it is important to me to have respectful conversations about passionate issues. Others find it important to use filthy language, personal insults, and demeaning accusations while discussing passionate issues. The latter example shows a complete lack of respect for themselves.

csdeven on May 28, 2011 at 12:18 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on May 28, 2011 at 1:42 AM

Yes. I remember when it was much more respectful. I have committed to myself not to be part of the p[roblem.

csdeven on May 28, 2011 at 7:42 AM
Many of us have a difficult time respecting idiots.

Amjean on May 28, 2011 at 8:27 AM

The trolls or ABPs come on here acting like immature brats, sling poo all over the place and then complain about the lack of “civil discourse” when they get their faces rubbed in it…

CCRWM on May 28, 2011 at 1:13 PM

Also, I don’t understand your objection to the sales tax in general. Wasilla, as the largest city in the Mat-Su Valley, has lots of out-of-towners coming in to shop, dine, etc. This means they use its infrastructure. Shouldn’t they pay SOMETHING towards its upkeep?

steebo77 on May 28, 2011 at 2:41 AM

Yes while she reduced the property tax 75%, she didn’t totally eliminate it, that came later.

I don’t have any specific qualms about sales tax per se, only that it’s a bit disingenuous to mention that Wasilla has no property tax, and then neglect to mention that it is one of the few municipalities in Alaska with its own sales tax, and its own Motor Vehicle Registration Tax.

It’s painting Palin as if she ran the town as some kind of cost cutting fiscal conservative, when in fact the opposite is the case. It has been previously mentioned that the budget in Wasilla increased due to debt service on voter-approved bonds. The faithful Hotair Palin commentariat are not feeling that everything is so copacetic in places like California and New York where high government spending is also voter approved. but when Palin does it, it’s okay.

Also, it wasn’t just debt service that increased. Outlays for government salaries increased 61% during Palin’s terms in office there.

As far as the sales tax: what infrastructure are the out-of-towners using? The shopping, dining etc. itself is private development. Most of the roads that they use to get there are probably State-owned. The water and sewer is paid for by the property owners.

The real reason for the sales tax: Palin is a populist, not a conservative. Her fiscal philosophy in Wasilla: reduce or eliminate the property tax, institute a sales tax, and at the same time hike government spending. The residents of Wasilla get their cake and eat it too, since a good chunk of the increased government expenditures will be paid for by out-of-towners, while the Wasilla residents own taxes stay roughly the same. Since Alaska is a big place with few places to shop, and retailers in the modern day locate based on the synergy of being in proximity to other retailers, and use vehicle traffic volumes as a prime factor in locating their businesses, Wasilla had a locational advantage in getting retailers to locate there, and comparative disadvantage of a sales tax is not enough to scare them off, especially when there’s no competition in neighboring areas (also the low or absent property tax will always attract developers, who are happy to let their Average Joe customers pay for improvements with the sales tax.)

The problem is: there’s no out-of-towners at the National level to pay for increased government expenditures (unless you want to raise the tariffs and duties). The have-your-cake-and eat-it-too fiscal philosophy that Palin used in her terms as mayor and her half-term as governor, won’t work at the national level. At this level, she faces reality, either she cuts government, increases taxes, or prints money (which she’s already come out against.) The USA doesn’t have out of town shoppers to pay for its services.

Dreadnought on May 28, 2011 at 1:30 PM

Yes while she reduced the property tax 75%, she didn’t totally eliminate it, that came later.

I don’t have any specific qualms about sales tax per se, only that it’s a bit disingenuous to mention that Wasilla has no property tax, and then neglect to mention that it is one of the few municipalities in Alaska with its own sales tax, and its own Motor Vehicle Registration Tax.

You think I mentioned the property tax elimination because I thought it portrayed Palin in a positive light? No, I mentioned it because I was speaking to the current state of Wasilla’s finances. If they have no property tax, and only a 2% sales tax and motor vehicle registration tax (that originated from the Borough, not the City, and was offset by a reduction in personal property tax), and there is no talk of raising any taxes at the moment, I would say the City is in pretty good financial straits.

It’s painting Palin as if she ran the town as some kind of cost cutting fiscal conservative, when in fact the opposite is the case. It has been previously mentioned that the budget in Wasilla increased due to debt service on voter-approved bonds. The faithful Hotair Palin commentariat are not feeling that everything is so copacetic in places like California and New York where high government spending is also voter approved. but when Palin does it, it’s okay.

That is a willful distortion of her record. I could cite numerous example of expenses Palin cut during her 7 years as mayor. As far as the bonds and debt service, this was a VOTER-INITIATED debt issuance and capital project. Which was paid off in 9 years without any difficulty for the City’s finances. I work a lot with municipalities on debt issuance and investment of bond proceeds, and I have to say, what they did in Wasilla is the model of responsible debt issuance.

Also, it wasn’t just debt service that increased. Outlays for government salaries increased 61% during Palin’s terms in office there.

Which is not at all surprising, given that Wasilla was the fastest growing city in the state.

As far as the sales tax: what infrastructure are the out-of-towners using? The shopping, dining etc. itself is private development. Most of the roads that they use to get there are probably State-owned. The water and sewer is paid for by the property owners.

Roads (Wasilla does have its own roads), police department, etc. All of the above.

The real reason for the sales tax: Palin is a populist, not a conservative. Her fiscal philosophy in Wasilla: reduce or eliminate the property tax,

Is it bad to reduce personal property taxes? As an offset to the Borough’s creation of the MVR tax (which partially flows to Wasilla)? How is that not conservative?

institute a sales tax,

The sales tax was 2% when Palin took office. She instituted nothing. In 2002 the voters raised the sales tax to 2.5% on their own. To say Palin “instituted a sales tax” is a gross mischaracterization.

and at the same time hike government spending.

Which is what you have to do when your City is growing, especially when it is growing faster than any other in the state. Did you know that revenues to the City increased more than spending did during Palin’s tenure as Mayor? Over the 7 fiscal years for which she was responsible, she averaged an annual surplus of roughly $80,000. She left the City more than half a million more in the black.

The residents of Wasilla get their cake and eat it too, since a good chunk of the increased government expenditures will be paid for by out-of-towners, while the Wasilla residents own taxes stay roughly the same. Since Alaska is a big place with few places to shop, and retailers in the modern day locate based on the synergy of being in proximity to other retailers, and use vehicle traffic volumes as a prime factor in locating their businesses, Wasilla had a locational advantage in getting retailers to locate there, and comparative disadvantage of a sales tax is not enough to scare them off, especially when there’s no competition in neighboring areas (also the low or absent property tax will always attract developers, who are happy to let their Average Joe customers pay for improvements with the sales tax.)

Wow. Sounds like Wasilla has an amazingly pro-growth philosophy and tax-structure!

The problem is: there’s no out-of-towners at the National level to pay for increased government expenditures (unless you want to raise the tariffs and duties). The have-your-cake-and eat-it-too fiscal philosophy that Palin used in her terms as mayor and her half-term as governor, won’t work at the national level. At this level, she faces reality, either she cuts government, increases taxes, or prints money (which she’s already come out against.) The USA doesn’t have out of town shoppers to pay for its services.

Dreadnought on May 28, 2011 at 1:30 PM

“Have-your-cake-and-eat-it-too” fiscal policy? Seriously? Palin left the City with sounder finances than when she was elected. It had grown incredibly, attracted lots of new businesses, and established itself as commercial hub for the entire Valley. Also, it had no police department, which Palin managed to organize. The City was lacking a lot of basic services in 1996 when Palin took over. Of course spending would increase (But I note again that revenue also increased more than spending – and as a result of growth, not tax hikes).

Of course Wasilla isn’t the federal government. It doesn’t have an income tax either. It also doesn’t run entitlement programs like Social Security and Medicare. It also doesn’t print its own money. What is even the point of your attempt at comparison?

steebo77 on May 28, 2011 at 1:57 PM

The trolls or ABPs come on here acting like immature brats, sling poo all over the place and then complain about the lack of “civil discourse” when they get their faces rubbed in it…

CCRWM on May 28, 2011 at 1:13 PM

Step back a second and read what you just wrote as if an ABP wrote it.

That is what I see when people write that stuff. I do not see the person you are insulting in a negative light.

csdeven on May 28, 2011 at 1:57 PM

“Have-your-cake-and-eat-it-too” fiscal policy? Seriously? Palin left the City with sounder finances than when she was elected. It had grown incredibly, attracted lots of new businesses, and established itself as commercial hub for the entire Valley. Also, it had no police department, which Palin managed to organize. The City was lacking a lot of basic services in 1996 when Palin took over. Of course spending would increase (But I note again that revenue also increased more than spending – and as a result of growth, not tax hikes).

Of course Wasilla isn’t the federal government. It doesn’t have an income tax either. It also doesn’t run entitlement programs like Social Security and Medicare. It also doesn’t print its own money. What is even the point of your attempt at comparison?

steebo77 on May 28, 2011 at 1:57 PM

The police department was established in 1993, before Palin became Mayor.

Again, the point is, Palin didn’t govern Wasilla as a fiscal conservative. Yes, the place grew in population by 30% but government expenditures on salaries increased by 61%, hardly the mark of a fiscal conservative.

Palin’s successor as mayor, Dianne Keller, said that: “the process for running the city of Wasilla is probably much like the process for running our country.”

Sorry, Mayor Keller, but it’s a lot different.

Dreadnought on May 28, 2011 at 2:09 PM

camtheman7 on May 28, 2011 at 8:35 AM

I have a deep loathing for any song that pronounces Mah-FEE-uh Mah-FYE-ay so that it’ll rhyme with See-AYE-ay.
*hiss*

annoyinglittletwerp on May 28, 2011 at 2:58 PM

The new board was charged with taking a fresh look at Mat Maid’s operations while cutting costs and increasing sales. Non-critical expenses were immediately cut in an effort to temporarily bring Matanuska Maid to a break-even point without using outside funds.

steebo77 on May 28, 2011 at 4:07 AM

Yes, but it was and has not been followed through and the state subsides continue to this day. There is a tradition, dating back to the early 1980s in Alaska, of state-sponsored enterprises that fail massively: fish processing plant, coal power plant, the dairy. The reason this happens is the oil revenues have covered these losses. Soon, with the rickety pipeline reaching its obsolescence this wasteful practice will come to an end.

Bottom line: The state should just stay clear of the private sector.

AshleyTKing on May 28, 2011 at 6:11 PM

This is what happens when presidential candidates start trying to figure out who they should be to appeal to the voters. If who you are isn’t good enough, you shouldn’t be in the office. Be who you are and stop trying to alienate Palin supporters you dumbarse. You cannot win without us.

Immolate on May 28, 2011 at 7:55 PM

The reason this happens is the oil revenues have covered these losses. Soon, with the rickety pipeline reaching its obsolescence this wasteful practice will come to an end.

AshleyTKing on May 28, 2011 at 6:11 PM

No kidding? How soon is ‘soon’? I wonder if that was an added factor to Palin leaving office.

Uncle Sams Nephew on May 30, 2011 at 5:02 PM

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