Video: Hey, who’s up for banning Hot Air? Update: Video fixed

posted at 4:12 pm on May 26, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

And Instapundit, and Drudge Report, and pretty much anything with Andrew Breitbart’s name on it, too.  The Media Research Center indulged in a little experiment on the support for free speech in Georgetown by having Joe Schoffstall walk around with a petition to ban conservative “hate sites” like the aforementioned and yours truly.  Joe discovers that the young people he approached think free speech is great, but not as cool as, say, sports:

“There has to be some control,” one young woman says. “I mean, freedom of speech is good, but, there is a certain modicum of control — I mean, look at the Tea Party.” Yeah, look at that freedom of assembly and freedom of political speech that garnered so much support that Republicans won more new seats in a midterm election than either party had in 72 years. We have to control that kind of thing! I particularly liked the one woman who signed the petition because sites like ours “cause a lot of debate.” Oh, heavens, no! Not debate! Why, then one might have to actually pay attention and think for one’s self!

Most common reaction to the question, “What do you think of the First Amendment?” was “I think it’s great, but ….” Maybe Georgetown should consider remedial Civics and American History classes.


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Good Lord. We’re doomed. And those people are allowed to vote?

BacaDog on May 26, 2011 at 4:15 PM

Since 1920 and 1971.

Kralizec on May 26, 2011 at 5:20 PM

Free speech for me but not for thee.

csdeven on May 26, 2011 at 5:20 PM

Ah, the snuggly safety of low-risk, peer group opinion and convention.

These people are all young and relatively unchallenged by life. Many of them have not yet formed their own ideas and opinions. They are parroting what they know will be socially acceptable and that’s all they know how to do.

And the reason this idiocy is considered low-risk, group opinion is because it’s what they’ve been spoon fed by the media, the Daily Show, faux “rebel” pop culture, and their leftist professors. They will never face an intellectual challenge to that at Georgetown or any other major university.

Django on May 26, 2011 at 5:23 PM

I miss that show…even I got a kick out of “girls on trampolines”! lol

JetBoy on May 26, 2011 at 4:57 PM

The little kid talking smack to people on the street is a comedy classic.

Django on May 26, 2011 at 5:28 PM

Django on May 26, 2011 at 5:23 PM

When they get their first job and have to pay their own way for about 5 years usually wises them up.

csdeven on May 26, 2011 at 5:28 PM

That Dumbing Down America thing really worked!

itsacookbook on May 26, 2011 at 5:32 PM

Oh yes, an informed populace is so dangerous to those in Washington!

GFW on May 26, 2011 at 5:32 PM

The little kid talking smack to people on the street is a comedy classic.

Django on May 26, 2011 at 5:28 PM

Oh, yeah! That was Andy Milonakis (spelling?) if I remember…he was like 20 or so, but looked like he was 14. One time he had a beer stand on the street corner….sold quite a few!

JetBoy on May 26, 2011 at 5:33 PM

I’d laugh if it weren’t so frightening.

John the Libertarian on May 26, 2011 at 5:33 PM

Obama and his comrades should be delighted to see how well the 50 year+ plan to fundamentally transform America through indoctrination is going.

Just wondering – do any Anglo-Saxons or people of European ancestry go to Georgetown or have they been affirmative-actioned out of existence at that campus? Or perhaps non “minority” students weren’t so eager to censor political speech and didn’t make it into the video?

Buy Danish on May 26, 2011 at 5:34 PM

You know what? I will sign. Because I’m a retard. And now I’m late for my next Poli Sci class….

MNHawk on May 26, 2011 at 5:36 PM

Hot Air is a commercial enterprise hosted by a private company therefore …

Commerce clause!

Too easy. Now where’s my JD and a spot in the FCC?

chimney sweep on May 26, 2011 at 5:37 PM

If these young fools really want their access to information on the internet to be censored, perhaps they should move to China where they are experts at censorship.

Georgetown University needs to re-evaluate its admissions criteria immediately!

wren on May 26, 2011 at 5:38 PM

a certain modicum of control

Kenosha Kid on May 26, 2011 at 5:39 PM

Coincidence this hits on the same day the latest Iowahawk column about people who pursue useless majors that leave them dumber than when they went into college.

MNHawk on May 26, 2011 at 5:41 PM

Obama and his comrades should be delighted to see how well the 50 year+ plan to fundamentally transform America through indoctrination is going.

Just wondering – do any Anglo-Saxons or people of European ancestry go to Georgetown or have they been affirmative-actioned out of existence at that campus? Or perhaps non “minority” students weren’t so eager to censor political speech and didn’t make it into the video?

Buy Danish on May 26, 2011 at 5:34 PM

As I mentioned earlier – their Law School rating (around 75 now) is equally tracked to their AA program that has been in full effect for 20+ years now.

My uncle, a successful lawyer who graduated from G-Town 2nd – stopped sending his $$$ around the late 80′s, because he claimed “I am not funding mediocrity…”

Odie1941 on May 26, 2011 at 5:43 PM

Georgetown University needs to re-evaluate its admissions criteria immediately!
wren on May 26, 2011 at 5:38 PM

One would think that descendants of people who had to endure Mao’s Glorious Revolution would be particularly sensitive to preserving the First Amendment, civility or no civility. Sadly I think that too many of them still hold some affection for the Little Red Book – perhaps out of cultural pride, or perhaps because they were targeted by ‘educators’.

Buy Danish on May 26, 2011 at 5:49 PM

The first ones against the wall.

CurtZHP on May 26, 2011 at 5:51 PM

The school indoctrination is so painfully obvious in this video.

Rambotito on May 26, 2011 at 4:24 PM

No, they thought that way long before they got there. That’s why they went to a Liberal college such as Georgetown. Also, there are millions of Libtards who think the same thing who have never set foot in a college.

You can’t get “indoctrinated” just by showing up to classes for a few years. Cynical, know-it-all young folks aren’t simply going to buy what their teacher says unless they are predisposed to share in the same beliefs anyway.

Dr. ZhivBlago on May 26, 2011 at 5:52 PM

The best to shut liberals up is to defeat them. Wisconsin’s been mighty quiet lately.

SouthernGent on May 26, 2011 at 5:52 PM

People still think government mandated vaccines don’t have side effects SNARK. I thought college kids were supposed to rebel against the establishment not shill for it.

Dr Evil on May 26, 2011 at 5:57 PM

$50,000 a year gets you this????

Oil Can on May 26, 2011 at 5:58 PM

So long as it doesn’t affect THEIR free speech, all is right with the world….right? Or is that left? *sigh*

Is that crr6? LOL

capejasmine on May 26, 2011 at 6:00 PM

That one dude with the sunglasses says I think free speech is great but if you’re spreading dumb stuff it should be banned….like totally.

angryed on May 26, 2011 at 6:00 PM

In all fairness I think if you went to a bible camp and asked should pro-choice websites be banned you’d probably get some kids saying yes. Lots of dumb asses on both sides.

angryed on May 26, 2011 at 6:04 PM

Higher education,huh?

ohiobabe on May 26, 2011 at 6:10 PM

*facedesk*

Yakko77 on May 26, 2011 at 6:15 PM

Objection! Counsel is leading the witnesses.

ncborn on May 26, 2011 at 6:17 PM

I think the idiotic statements these college kids make reflects well what they are ingesting from the far left web sites. By their own admission they are the one’s spreading ignorance and hate.

P.S. Where are some solid examples of hate and violence coming from the Tea Party?!

Irenaeus on May 26, 2011 at 6:21 PM

My liberal relatives all think the Drudge “blog” should be banned. When I point out that he is a news aggregator that gathers from a wide spectrum of MSM and alternative media sites, they just shrug and say he should not be able to carry “lies like from Rush Limbaugh and blogs”.

When I ask if that applies to NBC, ABC, CNN, etc., they say “Of course not!”

When I ask “How about if they lie too?”, I get an uncomprehending stare or an eye-roling smirk.

Yeah, Thanksgiving does kind of suck, why do you ask?

drunyan8315 on May 26, 2011 at 6:29 PM

Have any of these sheeple ever been to a Tea Party rally or do they just eat up the BS on MSLSD?!?!

Yakko77 on May 26, 2011 at 6:29 PM

I hear there is some kind of poll that indicates Fox News viewers become progressively more “ignorant” the longer they watch.

I wonder how you poll for ignorance. I’m guessing that conservative views=”ignorance”.

disa on May 26, 2011 at 5:06 PM

Perhaps they failed to answer a number of questions on … the Royal Wedding or the Schwarzenegger controversy … or whatever the mainstream jam the news with, avoiding the gun-walking scandal or real economic analysis.

Axeman on May 26, 2011 at 6:32 PM

These dopers should have been first asked to name the First Amendment. That might have filtered out the government K-12 victims.

slickwillie2001 on May 26, 2011 at 6:41 PM

13 years of K-12 incarceration gets you this. It’s disgusting to watch.

Mojave Mark on May 26, 2011 at 6:48 PM

They wouldn’t get the same response from MY 3 young adults, none of whom are in college. They can actually think for themselves and not parrot politician talking points.

They are also well-versed in the Constitution.

Common Sense on May 26, 2011 at 6:52 PM

Conscientious stupidity in action.

nico on May 26, 2011 at 7:01 PM

I wonder how you poll for ignorance?

disa on May 26, 2011 at 5:06 PM

You just simply post a blog related to anything Sarah Palin…..

….and Viola! out comes ignorance..!!

Mcguyver on May 26, 2011 at 7:04 PM

I’ve seen stupid before, but wow.
What was that saying about opening your mouth and removing all doubt?

gordo on May 26, 2011 at 7:13 PM

Q: “What do you think of the First Amendment?”

A: “I think it’s great.”

Tzetzes on May 26, 2011 at 7:29 PM

Buy Danish on May 26, 2011 at 5:34 PM

Only about a century off. The desire to control and indoctrinate students actually started with Horace Mann and the Boston Day School movement.

chemman on May 26, 2011 at 7:32 PM

dumb rapture believers, oh wait…………

rob verdi on May 26, 2011 at 7:43 PM

Correct me if my memory is shot, but when I was young it would have been offensive to a liberal to infringe on free speech.

Saltysam on May 26, 2011 at 7:57 PM

Democrats and the media are working hard to keep young people dumbed down. Apparently Soros has spent his money well.

Imagine if young people, the gullible ones, ever caught wind of reality?

BruthaMan on May 26, 2011 at 8:20 PM

Only about a century off. The desire to control and indoctrinate students actually started with Horace Mann and the Boston Day School movement.
chemman on May 26, 2011 at 7:32 PM

Yes, but they’re dead. I’m talking about living, breathing ‘progressives’.

Buy Danish on May 26, 2011 at 8:23 PM

Correct me if my memory is shot, but when I was young it would have been offensive to a liberal to infringe on free speech.

I was in college in the early 70s, and all the Leftist were just as contemptuous of free speech as they are now. Most of the liberals too, if asked about conservatives.

To be fair, this is comparable to the public at large, which is also confused about freedom of speech. Someone does this kind of “man in the street” thing every few years and the result is always just as disturbing.

YehuditTX on May 26, 2011 at 8:31 PM

I would love to know what administration and teaching staff think of this.

Cindy Munford on May 26, 2011 at 8:31 PM

One reason why I’ve yet to get my Bachelor’s.
Only having an Associate’s degree is kind of odd in this day and age (or so one is led to believe) but being stuck in the socialist echo chamber for two more years is less than desirable.
Debt and less demand for a degree also factor in of course.

Grayson on May 26, 2011 at 8:37 PM

In all fairness I think if you went to a bible camp and asked should pro-choice websites be banned you’d probably get some kids saying yes. Lots of dumb asses on both sides.

angryed on May 26, 2011 at 6:04 PM

A major university should not be the equivalent of religious training intended to implant and increase faith. American colleges were intended to be places of free inquiry and informed reason, not hothouses for dishonest left wing cranks.

Django on May 26, 2011 at 8:49 PM

I had to switch this off about halfway through.

My God, what STUPID people. They don’t even HAVE opinions. It’s not that they’re lefties, they really don’t even know. They practically had to be cajoled into making any kind of response. I bet if another guy came along 5 minutes later and tried to get them to sign a petition to reverse that petition, and fed them a few really positive lines about freedom of speech, they’d do a 180.

The real story hear is how perfectly manipulable these people are. Their educations have not taught them to think.

dkmonroe on May 26, 2011 at 8:57 PM

Good Lord. We’re doomed. And those people are allowed to vote?

BacaDog on May 26, 2011 at 4:15 PM

It gets worse. They’re also allowed to reproduce.

manwithblackhat on May 26, 2011 at 9:21 PM

A major university should not be the equivalent of religious training intended to implant and increase faith …

Django on May 26, 2011 at 8:49 PM

Actually, that is precisely the raison d’etre of a Catholic university, which in the process does indeed allow for “free inquiry and informed reason.”

manwithblackhat on May 26, 2011 at 9:24 PM

And, neo communists haven’t been running our education system for the last forty years?

Speakup on May 26, 2011 at 9:31 PM

That is actually depressing. Little commie drones.

Southernblogger on May 26, 2011 at 9:33 PM

Actually, that is precisely the raison d’etre of a Catholic university, which in the process does indeed allow for “free inquiry and informed reason.”

manwithblackhat on May 26, 2011 at 9:24 PM

And yet Georgetown is failing on both counts. In any case, a university should not engage in political indoctrination in the manner of a bible class.

Django on May 26, 2011 at 9:35 PM

Good Lord. We’re doomed. And those people are allowed to vote?

BacaDog on May 26, 2011 at 4:15 PM

It gets worse. They’re also allowed to reproduce.

manwithblackhat on May 26, 2011 at 9:21 PM

It’s even worse than that: they get paid thousands for every one of their hump dumplings, many of them taxpayer dollars. And that’s assuming that none of them or their kids becomes a welfare leech.

Anyone up for stopping gov’t subsidizing of reproduction already?

Uncle Sams Nephew on May 26, 2011 at 9:38 PM

This is the future????

I wonder how the young lady who thinks there should be limits on all the Amendments would limit this one:

Amendment 13: Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Or this one:

Amendment 15: The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.

Or this:

Amendment 19: The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.

Or this:

Amendment 26: The right of citizens of the United States, who are eighteen years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of age.

I wonder if she even knows about these.

SukieTawdry on May 26, 2011 at 10:19 PM

Good Lord. We’re doomed. And those people are allowed to vote?

BacaDog on May 26, 2011 at 4:15 PM

It gets worse. They’re also allowed to reproduce.

manwithblackhat on May 26, 2011 at 9:21 PM

AND we’re subsidizing their education (one way or another).

SukieTawdry on May 26, 2011 at 10:24 PM

Wow. These people are as ready as they’ll ever be to enter The Matrix.

dissent555 on May 26, 2011 at 11:03 PM

There was so much intellectual stammering going on I could barely make out what they were saying.

Sharke on May 26, 2011 at 11:28 PM

It would seem that Georgetown has a high fascist density.

HalJordan on May 27, 2011 at 12:25 AM

Color me totally unimpressed with this MRC gag.

So they got a few undergrads to sign a petition that was shoved in their faces by a pushy guy walking around with a camera. Wow.

When I was in college I would have probably signed a petition to outlaw animal shelters or invade China just to get that moron petition gatherer out of my face. Yet this is what passes for “intrepid conservative journalism.” Bravo.

BocaJuniors on May 27, 2011 at 1:56 AM

BocaJuniors on May 27, 2011 at 1:56 AM

“Proud” Georgetown grad are you?

MNHawk on May 27, 2011 at 7:11 AM

“Conservatives see if people want them to shut up already, people say yes..” would be a more accurate headline.

Drudge has this as “liberals want to ban conservative websites”, forgetting to mention the whole thing is a setup by some MRC tool.

triple on May 27, 2011 at 7:58 AM

Good Lord. We’re doomed.

And those people are allowed to vote?

I think this quote sums up how fed up I am with republicans.

They’ll shame you for disrespecting the first amendment – but then they’ll wonder aloud why people they disagree with are allowed to vote.

Voting is a right too, isn’t it? But I guess it’s not as important.

It’s hypocrisy at it’s finest.

triple on May 27, 2011 at 8:02 AM

Here’s a bit of advice to Poli Sci types, Georgetown grads, and grads with any worthless major.

Don’t let evil Republicans bait you into signing a petition to ban web sites. That way you won’t have to go onto those web sites and look like a fool, saying that people didn’t see and hear, what they saw and heard.

MNHawk on May 27, 2011 at 8:05 AM

http://studentaccounts.georgetown.edu/information/tuitionandfees/1112listing.html

For a mere $41,000 per year, your child too can have that prestigious Poli Sci degree, able to scoop that bag of fries side by side with the best the world has to offer.

Just sign on the dotted line.

MNHawk on May 27, 2011 at 8:09 AM

Voting is a right too, isn’t it? But I guess it’s not as important.

It’s hypocrisy at it’s finest.

triple on May 27, 2011 at 8:02 AM

Voting is a great right, but….
/libslacker

Axeman on May 27, 2011 at 8:24 AM

Good Lord. We’re doomed. And those people are allowed to vote?

BacaDog on May 26, 2011 at 4:15 PM

Not only can they vote but they can reproduce too.

abcurtis on May 27, 2011 at 8:35 AM

Go right at them – challenge them. Will they also ban the leftist MSM -the alphabets, that cable left? No? Then the case is closed.

They want us to bring marshmallows to their nuke war amd all we do is say tsk, tsk, that’s not fair -like little children who get beat up and bullied on the playground.

Take the fight to them, every time, everywhere.
Tell them every time they try these children’s games just how mentally and transparently corrupt they are.

For gosh sakes -learn the first rule of combat – don’t react to them – don’t give them the answer they’ll use against youu. Put them on the defense – reverse the blitzkreig – have plenty of sneak attacks ready and when you get them on the run -unconditional surrender. Banishment from the kingdom of freedom loving peoples.

Don L on May 27, 2011 at 9:05 AM

Seems the left is so artificial with their ideologies. They fight for free speech if it fits the left.
Free speech for Islam and censorship for evangelicals.

seven on May 27, 2011 at 9:20 AM

I mean, look at the Tea Party.

Yup. Infinitely worse than those neo-bolshevik unionists in Wisconsin who shut down gub’mint schools for days on end to threaten lawmakers and vandalize the state capital in order to extort money from the tax payers.

No wonder there’s a higher education bubble about to burst. Too many morons.

locomotivebreath1901 on May 27, 2011 at 9:39 AM

A little secret revealed: Students who attended college or the University, even those more reknowned and worshipped Universities, such as Georgetown, Yale, Harvard, Columbia, Stanford, Oxford, Cambridge, MIT, and so forth, are not really always so smart as people think, nor are they as well informed or aware as people think.

They clearly are living in a little bubble, having undergone their entire life being indoctrinated with leftist propaganda, including that of entitlement, preferential treatment, racism, bigotry, condescension, vindictiveness, wealth redistribution, irresponsibility, and perpetual outrage. Many, if not most, of all students today have been raised in day care, then preschool and kindergarten, and raised by baby sitters, etc., then, while in school, they are baby sat by predominently leftist NEA school teachers who have been indoctrinated in the aforementioned and regurgitate the same.

It is no surprise that students will sign a petition based on a lack of information, or ignorance, or misinformation, or misguided motivations, prejudging Conservatives, the Tea Party, et al, as mean, violent, racist, hate filled, etc. In truth the Tea Party is among the most honorable, well behaved, most respectful, clean movements, and anong the most Constitutionally sound movements in the history of mankind, yet, due to lies, lack of research, hatred, prejudice, racism, bigotry, and socialist-communist influence in the media, education, and the entertainment industry, the three legs which hold up the stool of propaganda which most US citizens are exposed to, many students, and graduates as well, betray their ignorance and sign petitions, or join in character assassination and censorship, harassment, and false accusations against Conservatives, etc.

It is a sickness, a mental disease.

William2006 on May 27, 2011 at 10:59 AM

Congratulations, Ed! The left hates you.

You have most definitely made your mark in the world.

Squiggy on May 27, 2011 at 12:35 PM

I think this quote sums up how fed up I am with republicans.

They’ll shame you for disrespecting the first amendment – but then they’ll wonder aloud why people they disagree with are allowed to vote.

Voting is a right too, isn’t it? But I guess it’s not as important.

It’s hypocrisy at it’s finest.

triple on May 27, 2011 at 8:02 AM

At the risk of feeding a troll, the reason commenters here groan about these students voting has nothing to do with differences of opinion and everything to do with their blatant ignorance of basic Constitutional understanding. As is attributed to the leftist philosopher Voltaire, “I may disagree with what you say but I will fight to the death for your right to say it.” Freedom of speech, assembly and religion means allowing said actions even when and especially because one may disagree with it. These Georgetown Socialists don’t seem to grasp that simple concept that forms the very foundation of our society. That is what has us shaking our heads in disbelief…

Ace ODale on May 27, 2011 at 2:42 PM

“Proud” Georgetown grad are you?

MNHawk on May 27, 2011 at 7:11 AM

Nope.

“Conservatives see if people want them to shut up already, people say yes..” would be a more accurate headline.

triple on May 27, 2011 at 7:58 AM

Exactly.

BocaJuniors on May 27, 2011 at 3:48 PM

Axiomatic thinking at Georgetown is not a bug, it’s a feature.

Immolate on May 27, 2011 at 5:09 PM

Free speech for me but not for thee.

csdeven on May 26, 2011 at 5:20 PM

You believe in freedom of speech for communists because what they say is true. You do not believe in freedom of speech for fascists because what they say is a lie.

John Howard Lawson, one of the “Hollywood Ten”, head of the Hollywood division of the Communist Party USA and the cell’s cultural manager.

JimC on May 27, 2011 at 11:25 PM

I wonder if these people actually listen to themselves talk?

Nah, never mind. Of course, they don’t.

98ZJUSMC on May 27, 2011 at 11:53 PM

Color me totally unimpressed with this MRC gag.

So they got a few undergrads to sign a petition that was shoved in their faces by a pushy guy walking around with a camera. Wow.

When I was in college I would have probably signed a petition to outlaw animal shelters or invade China just to get that moron petition gatherer out of my face. Yet this is what passes for “intrepid conservative journalism.” Bravo.

BocaJuniors on May 27, 2011 at 1:56 AM

Never heard of saying, “No.” and walking away, huh?

What part confused you? “No” or walking away?

98ZJUSMC on May 28, 2011 at 12:14 AM

My daughter was recently honored at her college’s Scholars Convocation in SOCAL… There was lot of mention of MECHA and these honorees participation with that organization… The student indoc thing is active out here on the left coast as well, we’re just not as ‘tony’ about it as Georgetown is…

Khun Joe on May 28, 2011 at 9:11 AM

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