Report: Rick Perry thinking of jumping into GOP race

posted at 4:20 pm on May 25, 2011 by Allahpundit

It’d be hard for him to say no. Romney, Pawlenty, and Huntsman will split the centrist vote, so there’s an opportunity on the right for a prominent conservative to swoop in and consolidate the base. That’s what Palin’s going to try to do, leveraging her higher name recognition to swamp Bachmann and Cain in Iowa, but Perry would be a major challenge for her. In fact, given his record on jobs, he may even pull some votes from the centrists.

Coming soon to a debate near you?

With conservatives aching for more choices in the approaching 2012 Republican primary, Perry declined Tuesday to rule out a White House bid during a press conference about a new anti-abortion measure. Also Tuesday, his top strategist told the Tribune that the governor is, naturally, “thinking about it” given the flattering comments made recently by some in the GOP, although he “doesn’t see any change in his direction.”…

The Perry camp is still telegraphing the notion that the default position is not to run, but it’s safe to say they have cracked the door open, at least a little bit, over the last week. Specific wording matters — a lot — in these speculative political matters…

“Obviously, it’s flattering to have everybody, Rush Limbaugh and all these other conservative, right-of-center leaders, talk about you, urging you to think about it, urging you to run, saying they support you. But I don’t see any difference in terms of the governor’s thinking,” [Perry strategist Dave] Carney said.

“I’m sure he’s thinking about it because it’s just human nature when you have Rush Limbaugh spend 20 minutes talking about you and have all these other people mention you, that you don’t sort of think that’s flattering and think about it. But I don’t see any change in his direction, what he’s planning to do.”

That’s not all. Laura Ingraham told Mike Pence on the air this morning that a source in Texas who’s tapped into political circles insists that Perry will announce his candidacy in the coming days. Skip ahead to 2:20 of the clip below to listen. If that’s true, he needs to get in ASAP and ride the buzz for as long as he can before Palin announces and the media stampedes to cover her instead. In fact, he may be thinking that if he jumps in now, it may convince Palin that her path to the nomination is too difficult and that it’s not worth running after all. Granted, that’s highly unlikely given that there’s a candidate-approved Palin movie rolling out in Iowa next month, but he gains nothing by waiting.

Exit question: What does this do for Pawlenty’s chances? T-Paw might be the only “centrist” who ends up campaigning hard in Iowa, so if grassroots conservatives there end up splitting between Perry, Palin, and the dark horses, he could squeak through. On the other hand, Pawlenty’s niche is as the electable “Not Romney” candidate, and once Perry is in, that niche will have two members. What’s the argument for T-Paw then?


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I figured he would run for President of Texas instead.

Raisedbywolves on May 25, 2011 at 5:55 PM

There will never be a border fence anyway.

Why? There already is a partial fence, is there some law of nature that says it can’t be completed?

Jon0815 on May 25, 2011 at 5:55 PM

Rick Perry opposes Arizona’s immigration law:

Governor Rick Perry said such a law “would not be the right direction for Texas” and would distract law enforcement from fighting other crimes.

“I have concerns with portions of the law passed in Arizona and believe it would not be the right direction for Texas.” Associated Press, 4/29/10

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/04/29/texas-governor-arizona-immigration-law-right-texas/

Raisedbywolves on May 25, 2011 at 5:57 PM

samuelrylander on May 25, 2011 at 5:53 PM

Oh, please. He was there wasn’t he? I think that alone is very cool. He didn’t have to attend at all.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on May 25, 2011 at 5:58 PM

I guess that would take Texas off the table for the Dems or does O still think he might have a shot there?! :-)

tims472 on May 25, 2011 at 6:01 PM

Rule Number 1 about selecting a VP: If the VP overshadows the top of the ticket, the ticket loses. Too much attention on the VP inevitably diminishes the candidate at the top of the ticket. Perry could not run with Palin as VP, and I doubt she’d want to play second fiddle to anyone after her 2008 experience (though Palin could probably run with Perry as VP, but that would be a silly decision since they both occupy the same political space). No one already in good standing with the base is going to run with a Christie or West as VP either for the same reason– they would just distract too much from the top of the ticket.

I think Perry would probably go with Rubio. He’ll put a chunk of the Hispanic vote in play and he hails from all-important Florida. He’s a star in the party, but his low-key approach since taking office shows that he won’t upstage the presidential nominee. Rubio is a brilliant politician from what I’ve seen from him so far. He easily could have made himself the media face of the Tea Party, but he declined that role and has focused on building his reputation as a serious thinker who is more concerned with advancing conservative positions through hard work in the Senate rather than media showboating (contrast: Bachmann).

Lawdawg86 on May 25, 2011 at 6:01 PM

but, oh! how I’d adore a Perry/West ticket! I’d just die of sheer happiness if that ever happened, lol!

-Aslan’s Girl

Now you’re talking. For the record, Ryan is pro-amnesty.
Of the 242 Republicans in the House, only five have a lower immigration grade from Numbers USA. Ryan has an F on amnesty and F- on reducing foreign workers and ending chain migration.

Ryan has cosponsored five amnesties, including the misnamed Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act, which was identical to a bill introduced by Ted Kennedy and John McCain and would have granted amnesty to virtually every single illegal alien in the country and massively increased legal immigration. Ryan will never get my vote!

TxAnn56 on May 25, 2011 at 6:04 PM

Another point about how Rubio has positioned himself as the perfect VP candidate: his focus on foreign policy issues since taking office. This is where Governors are usually lacking, and Rubio’s most vocal public statements have been on foreign policy.

Lawdawg86 on May 25, 2011 at 6:07 PM

I guess Romney needs someone in the race to make look less stiff.

terryannonline on May 25, 2011 at 6:08 PM

For the record, Ryan is pro-amnesty.

Of the 242 Republicans in the House, only five have a lower immigration grade from Numbers USA. Ryan has an F on amnesty and F- on reducing foreign workers and ending chain migration.

There goes any support I have had for Ryan up till now.

Lourdes on May 25, 2011 at 6:08 PM

Rule Number 1 about selecting a VP: If the VP overshadows the top of the ticket, the ticket loses. Too much attention on the VP inevitably diminishes the candidate at the top of the ticket.

And that was the problem for the GOP in 1996 and 2008 as well as for the dems in 2004.

ConservativePartyNow on May 25, 2011 at 6:08 PM

“Perry took heat during this year’s Republican primary for backing in-state tuition for illegal immigrants, saying in a debate that the students are on a path to citizenship.”
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/special/immigration/6982707.html

Oh and…
-Chairman of Texans for Gore in 1988
-Backed Dukakis over Bush in 1988
-Backed Mondale over Reagan in 1984
-Backed Carter over Reagan in 1980

I have a hard time trusting a Republican who came over from the Democratic Party after the Reagan Administration. Could be W 2.0 (not a good thing imho)

Raisedbywolves on May 25, 2011 at 6:08 PM

I guess that would take Texas off the table for the Dems or does O still think he might have a shot there?! :-)

tims472 on May 25, 2011 at 6:01 PM

I might be mistaken, and can’t really check it right now, but wasn’t Perry’s last election win pretty close?

pseudoforce on May 25, 2011 at 6:10 PM

I guess Romney needs someone in the race to make look less stiff.

terryannonline on May 25, 2011 at 6:08 PM

So it comes down to a toss up between two phony opportunistic pols who still have their hair.

I don’t know which one is faster to stick their finger into the wind Mitt or Rick” It really is a toss up I wouldn’t describe Perry as a conservative he is establishment down the line he just wants to stay on the right side of the tea party cause the brew is strong down here. Rick Perry is the reason we have the NAFTA Highway.

Dr Evil on May 25, 2011 at 6:13 PM

Perry credentials look solid..:)

Dire Straits on May 25, 2011 at 6:14 PM

I don’t have any problems with Perry and could support him. But let’s face it, this is more ABP stuff. If and when she gets in the race, all bets are off.

pseudoforce on May 25, 2011 at 6:14 PM

I think Perry would probably go with Rubio. He’ll put a chunk of the Hispanic vote in play and he hails from all-important Florida. He’s a star in the party, but his low-key approach since taking office shows that he won’t upstage the presidential nominee. Rubio is a brilliant politician from what I’ve seen from him so far. He easily could have made himself the media face of the Tea Party, but he declined that role and has focused on building his reputation as a serious thinker who is more concerned with advancing conservative positions through hard work in the Senate rather than media showboating (contrast: Bachmann).

Lawdawg86 on May 25, 2011 at 6:01 PM

Ooooh! I have one word for that: brillante!

cynccook on May 25, 2011 at 6:15 PM

There are 2 people and 2 (serious candidates) people period who would go for Obama’s throat and not let go : Perry and Palin. Nominate a political rookie or squish and end up with Dole and McCain 2. My opinion of course.

And Perry won re-elction last year handily. What’s nice about Texas is former Democrat state wide office contenders become trivia question answers.

Marcus on May 25, 2011 at 6:16 PM

PERRY?………A fourth Bush term!

NO NO NO!!!!

PappyD61 on May 25, 2011 at 6:17 PM

Ooooh! I have one word for that: brillante!

cynccook on May 25, 2011 at 6:15 PM

That would be a good ticket!..:)

Dire Straits on May 25, 2011 at 6:17 PM

pseudoforce on May 25, 2011 at 6:14 PM

The world doesn’t revolve around Sarah, sorry to inform you. Funny how you never thought that this could be “anybody but TPAW” or “anybody but Mitt” or “anybody but Newt”, and Heaven forbid that it just might be that people actually LIKE Perry for his own sake; no, it’s ALL about Palin!!11!!

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on May 25, 2011 at 6:19 PM

Lawdawg86 on May 25, 2011 at 6:01 PM

If Perry is going to choose a Floridian, West is the Best!

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on May 25, 2011 at 6:20 PM

If Perry is going to choose a Floridian, West is the Best!

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on May 25, 2011 at 6:20 PM

That would be a very good choice also!..:)

Dire Straits on May 25, 2011 at 6:21 PM

I could see Palin, Perry, Giuliani, Bachmann and McCotter all jumping in in the new few weeks. It’s gonna be wild.

IR-MN on May 25, 2011 at 6:24 PM

If Perry is going to choose a Floridian, West is the Best!

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on May 25, 2011 at 6:20 PM

Shoot, I wish! P.S. Allen West is going to be on CSPAN tomorrow, Thursday.

sicoit on May 25, 2011 at 6:24 PM

I could see Palin, Perry, Giuliani, Bachmann and McCotter all jumping in in the new few weeks. It’s gonna be wild.

IR-MN on May 25, 2011 at 6:24 PM

That would be good!..:)

Dire Straits on May 25, 2011 at 6:25 PM

He looks like W, he talks like W, he governs like W

NO MORE BUSHES!!

Perry is an Open Borders, HPV forcing, Trans Texas Corridor proponent.

We need someone to post a list of positions (like TPaw) that shows his stand 5 years ago and today.

PappyD61 on May 25, 2011 at 6:27 PM

I really don’t know all that much about Perry….it’s something that I’ll have to do my homework on.

Now Perry was already aware of the “Presidential buzz” even during his last Gubernetorial race, and he DID say this prior to his re-election….

“….For me, my intention is obviously to serve out the full four years — whatever distraction might be out there.
Some people would like to distract me by saying Perry is going to Washington. I have no desire to go to Washington, D.C. I don’t know how many times you have say it or how many times you have to prove it, but Washington has no allure to me.”

That seems like a promise to me, but you all can take it for what it’s worth.

http://www.rickperry.org/media-articles/palin-campaign-perry

tencole on May 25, 2011 at 6:27 PM

I heard Perry on the Laura Ingraham show..He is no fan of Obie!..:)

Dire Straits on May 25, 2011 at 6:30 PM

Oh please, is this curveball what you came up with after a whole night’s thinking furiously, Allah?

promachus on May 25, 2011 at 6:30 PM

IR-MN on May 25, 2011 at 6:24 PM

Yes, it’s going to be exciting. I’m looking forward to seeing the kind of support that McCotter and Guiliani get.

sicoit on May 25, 2011 at 6:24 PM

Oooh! Thanks for the tip!

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on May 25, 2011 at 6:31 PM

Heck, I’m thinking of jumping in, lol. *rabble, rabble, whisper, whisper, rabble, rabble*

Fallon on May 25, 2011 at 6:32 PM

I suspect that Palin and Perry are having a private chuckle about him being the new, flavor of the week, ABP candidate.

He will not run; she will. He will support her. Political
strategy should tell her that she doesn’t need Perry as
VP to carry Texas; she is very popular with conservatives
there. When the Bush family (dynasty) trotted out Kay
Bailey Hutchinson to run against him, Perry called up his
good buddy, Palin, to come and campaign with him at his
rally. Thousands showed up. Perry won; Bush in essence
lost. You can bet your ass that Perry will support Palin
for president; and you can also bet your ass that when
natural disasters strike, Palin as president won’t play
childish games by not arranging for federal aid and loans
like Obama did when Texas had the raging wildfires.

Amjean on May 25, 2011 at 6:33 PM

Dire Straits on May 25, 2011 at 6:30 PM

Did you see Perry on Greta last night (or was it the other night)? Definitely NOT a fan of O, lol!

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on May 25, 2011 at 6:33 PM

Where do you get Perry is open borders — he has been fighting Obama to close the borders.

Looks like the bots from other campaigns have hit Hot Air on this thread!

Rick Perry has the support of many of us in this part of the Country.

PhiKapMom on May 25, 2011 at 6:35 PM

Aslans Girl on May 25, 2011 at 6:33 PM

No I missed it!..But from what I have seen/heard you are right!..He is definitely NOT a fan of Obie!..:)

Dire Straits on May 25, 2011 at 6:36 PM

My guess is… all of these “dream” candidates come with their own problems. Perry is another Texas governor… he has much the same problem as Jeb! Bush fatigue… or at least fatigue over arguing about Bush.

Obama ran against Bush in 2008 and he wants the most Bush-like guy he can get. Texas governor… is a big commonality.

petunia on May 25, 2011 at 6:40 PM

I suspect that Palin and Perry are having a private chuckle about him being the new, flavor of the week, ABP candidate.

“…Yesterday’s event was all about proving Rick Perry’s conservative credentials, and showing those Tea Party conservatives that Perry can run with their pack due to his relationship with Palin.
State Senator Dan Patrick who represents the Cypress area (Texas 7th Senatorial District) acted as Emcee of the event and reminded the crowd more than once that this is the most conservative district in the state of Texas, a direct bid to sway those who, at times, question Perry’s conservatism. Patrick also told the crowd Rick Perry would never be afraid to say that Roe v. Wade should “not be the law of the land”.

“…Aside from Perry staff, I saw no one on the floor or in the stands at the arena wearing “Perry” shirts, hats or any other type of memorabilia. I did; however, see several people wearing clothes with a pro-Palin message. One simply read “You Betcha”. A grandmother and granddaughter were adorned in matching white and pink “Team Sarah” shirts. There were many others.”

“…Perry took the microphone first, which at first seemed odd. One would assume the candidate would go last after a rousing introduction by the guest (Palin). However, the line-up was only more evidence of the Perry camp’s shrewdness in organizing the rally. Had Perry have gone after Palin, much of the crowd would have been gone. Sarah had been the draw for the event.”

“…As Palin stepped toward the microphone, Perry said more, but no one could hear it. The response to her was overwhelming. The noise deafening! 7,000 people stomped their feet in unison and roared in approval of Palin.”

http://www.thecypresstimes.com/article/News/Your_News/PALIN_WOWS_EM_AT_PERRY_RALLY_IN_CYPRESS/27581

It’s sounds like it would have to be Palin/Perry. :)

tencole on May 25, 2011 at 6:53 PM

petunia on May 25, 2011 at 6:40 PM

I see your point..BUT I think Obie will have to run on his record and not against Bush!..:)

Dire Straits on May 25, 2011 at 6:56 PM

Rick Perry increased taxes in Texas one billion and increased the size of government by 85%. (see link)

Is that conservative by any standard?

The following is a link to all the extensive factual opposition research that Kay Bailey Hutchinson accumulated and used as campaign commercials against Rick Perry during her run for governor…..: http://www.youtube.com/user/TrickyRicky2010#g/u

Note that that her opposition website: slickrickyperry(dot)com is no longer under her domain, but the (or a) Youtube site is still up.

Here are some quick facts: In the last primary Rick Perry, only received 51% percent of the vote despite Kay Bailey Hutchinson (who got 30% of the vote) having the bailout vote negatives, etc., against her, and, Debra Medina (who got 19% of the vote) having the Glen Beck 9-11 interview bomb-out against her.

We have credible sources confirming that Democrats voted in the primary for Rick Perry because they – erroneously – thought Bill White could beat him in the general. Ofcourse it would’ve taken only 20,000 Democrats to put him over that top in the primary.

Fact #2: Even with Perry’s pro-life vote there are many in churches who despise him coming into their house of worship and do defacto campaigning and soliciting hero worship – a subject of constant consternation among many full time and casual observers.

Fact #3: There are many in the Republican party apparatus that DID NOT VOTE FOR PERRY in the primary…. I should know this because I am a part of that apparatus.

Thus, there is a good chance that he wouldn’t even carry his own state in the primary, a fact that should be patently obvious to rick Perry and company since he hasn’t made any brownie points in this legislation, lots of rhetoric like usual, mind you, but no brownie points, especially considering that he reneged on using the nine (9) billion dollar Rainy Day Funds to “balance” the imbalanced budget, that he himself created by tripling the state’s debt in during his Tenor.

The Tea Parties in Texas are not happy with Governor’s Rick Perry’s reneging on using the Rainy Day fund for balancing the out-of-control tripling-of-the-debt budget that he himself created, and with the debt ceiling fight in Congress, I can confirm to all you that Rick Perry will not get any support from fully 50% of his party’s votershere in Texas.

Unless of course he switches back to being a Democrat, well then he might have a chance….

Heck, that might not be a bad idea, Perry, running as your true colors really depict.

Mcguyver on May 25, 2011 at 7:00 PM

petunia on May 25, 2011 at 6:40 PM

I see your point..BUT I think Obie will have to run on his record and not against Bush!..:)

Dire Straits on May 25, 2011 at 6:56 PM

I hope so. I thought Daniels was too close to Bush, too.

I hope we can run against Obama’s record and not the cultural icon of the “first black president”.

Obama’s current approval numbers have me spooked. The public seems so willing to forgive him everything.

petunia on May 25, 2011 at 7:05 PM

Rick Perry has the support of many of us in this part of the Country.

PhiKapMom on May 25, 2011 at 6:35 PM

Do you live in Texas? Of course not, that is why you don’t know that Perry is all “hat-and-no-cowboy” on the borders as well.

Mcguyver on May 25, 2011 at 7:05 PM

“Perry took heat during this year’s Republican primary for backing in-state tuition for illegal immigrants, saying in a debate that the students are on a path to citizenship.”
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/special/immigration/6982707.html

Raisedbywolves on May 25, 2011 at 6:08 PM

Exactly.

I can assure you that everything you believe that Perry stands for in rhetoric, is simply just that: rhetoric.

Rick Perry is Texas’ version of New York’s Donald Trump combined with Hope, Arkansas’ tough-talking-conservative-democrat Bill Clinton….

All hat and No Cowboy – they name is Rick Perry…

Mcguyver on May 25, 2011 at 7:10 PM

Perry= Texas gov who is soft on illegals. Bush 2.0.

Jon0815 on May 25, 2011 at 7:14 PM

As governor of my state, he showed disturbing leadership in mandating vaccinations for the sexual contracted virus (H-something or another)for elementary girls. However, he did make up for this with his leadership during Hurricane Rita (Katrina’s slutty sister). I like him. I think he would beat Obama with a running mate like Palin or Cain.
Go Perry!

carbon_footprint on May 25, 2011 at 7:14 PM

A fiscal, defense, social, borders conservative who likes to remind people about the 10th Amendment and is a staunch supporter of state rights.

Could it be?

amerpundit on May 25, 2011 at 4:48 PM

Really? That is a surprise for us.

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Palin is polling ahead of Perry in TEXAS.

huckleberryfriend on May 25, 2011 at 4:49 PM

There is no doubt about that.

Conservatives were actually not happy that Palin supported Perry, as without Palin’s support that would’ve gotten us anybody-but-Perry in the primary….which is what this state so deserved.

And before you chime in with: “But Palin’s instinct should be right on about Perry”, let me tell you unequivocally that Palin doesn’t live here, so she doesn’t see Perry’s two-timing, two-stepping circle dance around actually getting the principled conservative job done.

Rick Perry in real life, is in fact an utter embarrassment in comparison to Sarah Palin.

Mcguyver on May 25, 2011 at 7:19 PM

This Fort Worth-ite says Perry/Palin would be a God-send…

UncleFodder on May 25, 2011 at 4:56 PM

That’s a liberal newspaper, what’s your point?

Mcguyver on May 25, 2011 at 7:22 PM

Perry opposes the border fence.

Jon0815 on May 25, 2011 at 4:57 PM

There will never be a border fence anyway.

faraway on May 25, 2011 at 5:35 PM

Right. Making excuses for Perry like the other 50% of Texans.

Mcguyver on May 25, 2011 at 7:24 PM

Y

ou realize Palin will never again be on the bottom of the ticket, right?

sleepy-beans on May 25, 2011 at 5:03 PM

VP should bring in a good number of electoral votes and balance the ticket, which was one problem with McCain choosing Palin (although it turned out well for her eventually). Alaska has what? 5 EVs? and doesn’t balance anything. It’s just good strategy in a crucial year.

Not to mention that there will be such an overlap in their fans that the ticket wouldn’t add voters.

And Palin can do more good campaigning for him than on the ticket.

YehuditTX on May 25, 2011 at 7:39 PM

If Perry is going to choose a Floridian, West is the Best!

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on May 25, 2011 at 6:20 PM

I like West a lot too, but Rubio won a statewide election in Florida; we’re not even sure West will win his first re-election in his district yet. I think that what we all like about West would make him a serious liability as a VP candidate: he is outspoken and not afraid to say controversial things. I respect him for his boldness and I think he can be a great leader in the party (hopefully a candidate for higher office in the future), but he would be too much of a distraction as VP. West and Christie’s in-your-face style could work at the top of the ticket, but it would be a terrible idea to run them as VP’s.

Lawdawg86 on May 25, 2011 at 7:40 PM

1. GOP doesn’t want Palin to run.
2. Knows only a few “Establishment Conservatives” can keep her from running.
3. Get Perry into the race.
4. Palin sits out, Perry runs in Primaries.
5. Perry’s dirt get’s out into public, Romney pounces.
6. Romney wins GOP Nomination by defaul, GOP splits, USA ends before 2012.

MadDogF on May 25, 2011 at 7:46 PM

Rick Perry is no conservative.

wheelgun on May 25, 2011 at 7:51 PM

I figured he would run for President of Texas instead.

Raisedbywolves on May 25, 2011 at 5:55 PM

Texas should be it’s own country. I’d move there. The USA’s future budgets are doomed.

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Palin supports a “pathway to citizenship” which is amnesty lite.

—————————————

He looks like W, he talks like W, he governs like W

NO MORE BUSHES!!

Perry is an Open Borders, HPV forcing, Trans Texas Corridor proponent.

We need someone to post a list of positions (like TPaw) that shows his stand 5 years ago and today.

PappyD61 on May 25, 2011 at 6:27 PM

I’m not that familiar with Perry, but i am skeptical of your assertions. Perry is “pro open borders”????

toliver on May 25, 2011 at 7:58 PM

Romney pounces.
6. Romney wins GOP Nomination by defaul, GOP splits, USA ends before 2012.

MadDogF on May 25, 2011 at 7:46 PM

Gee, why didn’t he “pounce” last time? Rick Perry’s never lost. He has. Plenty.

Marcus on May 25, 2011 at 7:59 PM

He looks like W, he talks like W, he governs like W

NO MORE BUSHES!!

Perry is an Open Borders, HPV forcing, Trans Texas Corridor proponent.

We need someone to post a list of positions (like TPaw) that shows his stand 5 years ago and today.

PappyD61 on May 25, 2011 at 6:27 PM

Whoops, I didn’t quote the whole post.

toliver on May 25, 2011 at 7:59 PM

We’re screwed.

southsideironworks on May 25, 2011 at 8:20 PM

We’re screwed.

southsideironworks on May 25, 2011 at 8:20 PM

What’s wrong with Perry?
He’s done wonders in TX.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 25, 2011 at 8:50 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on May 25, 2011 at 8:50 PM

ALT, you have to share with the rest of the country! :)

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on May 25, 2011 at 8:55 PM

Rick Perry is no conservative.

wheelgun on May 25, 2011 at 7:51 PM

Is Perry claiming to be a Conservative? Just asking.

To my view, the only time this question is significant is when there are claims made by persons who don’t maintain Conservative views, that they claim to be Conservative while holding Liberal views.

And as to a GOP nominee and President, I don’t see too many Conservatives available. Perry is prolife, that’s a big start, he’s pro 2nd Amendment, that’s another big start, he’s pro-industry, pro-’jobs’, more very big starts, he’s eager for national security especially as to borders and border issues, those are very big deals.

Beyond that, all the potential nominees on the Right are “degrees of Conservative” by shades. Importantly, I don’t see too much fibbing about the word, Conservative, taking place, which is important.

The Right has to get organized and stop ripping candidates apart who pose good talent for the White House. In Perry’s case, he ALSO has a charisma that makes him appealing to support, so there’s THAT important quality about him as to the Election.

Lourdes on May 25, 2011 at 8:56 PM

Lourdes on May 25, 2011 at 8:56 PM

He’s also unabashedly pro-Israel which raises him mightily in my estimation.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on May 25, 2011 at 8:58 PM

Perry is an Open Borders…

PappyD61 on May 25, 2011 at 6:27 PM

No, he isn’t that. Just heard him last evening speaking quite intently on the need for increased border security, for much, much more to be done and soon on the border situations. That’s not an ‘open borders’ message.

Lourdes on May 25, 2011 at 8:58 PM

Lourdes on May 25, 2011 at 8:56 PM

He’s also unabashedly pro-Israel which raises him mightily in my estimation.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on May 25, 2011 at 8:58 PM

Yes, and glad to read that about Perry, too.

Lourdes on May 25, 2011 at 8:59 PM

I’ve lived in Texas for most of my 47 years and I’d love to have Rick Perry for President after 4 years of the The Zero.

manofaiki on May 25, 2011 at 9:04 PM

KingGold on May 25, 2011 at 4:51 PM

stop w/ the W bashing. if he could run for a 3rd term he’d beat obama running away. surely you’ve seen how popular the “Miss Me Yet” billboards where?

chasdal on May 25, 2011 at 9:10 PM

Did anybody see Dick Morris on O’Reilly? Conduction his own “polls”. Thank the Lord Dick Morris is 100 percent wrong, 100 percent of the time. Newt double and triple digits over EVERYBODY but Romney? Morris is high.

KUDOS to O’Reilly BTW for telling Morris over and over “No, you’re wrong”. Fatso did not look amused at the end of the interview and wiped the smile from his face.

Marcus on May 25, 2011 at 9:12 PM

Did anybody see Dick Morris on O’Reilly? Conduction his own “polls”. Thank the Lord Dick Morris is 100 percent wrong, 100 percent of the time. Newt double and triple digits over EVERYBODY but Romney? Morris is high.

KUDOS to O’Reilly BTW for telling Morris over and over “No, you’re wrong”. Fatso did not look amused at the end of the interview and wiped the smile from his face.

Marcus on May 25, 2011 at 9:12 PM

Morris really said that?????

toliver on May 25, 2011 at 9:35 PM

“Perry took heat during this year’s Republican primary for backing in-state tuition for illegal immigrants, saying in a debate that the students are on a path to citizenship.”
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/special/immigration/6982707.html

Oh and…
-Chairman of Texans for Gore in 1988
-Backed Dukakis over Bush in 1988
-Backed Mondale over Reagan in 1984
-Backed Carter over Reagan in 1980

I have a hard time trusting a Republican who came over from the Democratic Party after the Reagan Administration. Could be W 2.0 (not a good thing imho)

Raisedbywolves on May 25, 2011 at 6:08 PM

Yeah, those former Democrats like Reagan cannot be trusted to be true Republicans. Once a Dem, always a Dem!

BryanS on May 25, 2011 at 9:45 PM

The thing I do not like about Perry, well not Perry but the structure in which a Texas governor works. He is from a red state and he only has to battle the blue part of the state every two years. Does this really condition a man to best Barney Frank on a daily basis? It doesn’t. And lets face it Bush’s demeanor cost us big time. He steadfastly refused to blunt the relentless assualts from the left. Perry exists in a world that is tipped in his favor. Ask yourself would a Democrat governor been able to repel jobs even if he wanted to? Hell no. Texas’ momentuim is self sustaining, hell I’m applying there right now.

Pawlenty has taken on the left as a conservative governor of a blue state. I prefer his experience over Perry’s. T-Paw may not look exciting but he has bloody knuckles. Perry is a pair of boots and a smile. Been there done that, got the 2006 blowout and Obamacare to prove it (Think about that, had Bush done just a little something in the ideological arena we might not have to dismantle Obamacare. Bush’s inaction set the table for that travesty)

Theworldisnotenough on May 25, 2011 at 9:45 PM

Yeah, those former Democrats like Reagan cannot be trusted to be true Republicans. Once a Dem, always a Dem!

BryanS on May 25, 2011 at 9:45 PM

Reagan was an ideological warrior decades before he became POTUS. Perry has no such resume.

Tell me you trust him on immigration?

Theworldisnotenough on May 25, 2011 at 9:47 PM

Perry is another Texas governor… he has much the same problem as Jeb! Bush fatigue… or at least fatigue over arguing about Bush.

Obama ran against Bush in 2008 and he wants the most Bush-like guy he can get. Texas governor… is a big commonality.

petunia on May 25, 2011 at 6:40 PM

He’s got more problems than being a Bush clone, but you are right he’s from the same stock “good ole boys” Perry isn’t a Conservative but I think he would be happy to take Obama’s current position.

Dr Evil on May 25, 2011 at 9:52 PM

And before you chime in with: “But Palin’s instinct should be right on about Perry”, let me tell you unequivocally that Palin doesn’t live here, so she doesn’t see Perry’s two-timing, two-stepping circle dance around actually getting the principled conservative job done.

Mcguyver on May 25, 2011 at 7:19 PM

To be fair Palin was supporting the Republican candidate for Governor, she is a loyal Republican.

I live in Texas, I tolerate Perry. I don’t have any illusions, he’s a career politician. The upside is if he ran in the general against Obama, the banks would get behind him big time. I don’t think he would have any trouble raising campaign donations.

Dr Evil on May 25, 2011 at 10:00 PM

Reagan was an ideological warrior decades before he became POTUS. Perry has no such resume.

Tell me you trust him on immigration?

Theworldisnotenough on May 25, 2011 at 9:47 PM

Immigration is not a top issue for me, but Reagan also signed onto an amnesty deal. So….

What I don’t like about Perry is he is too much like Bush–only conservative on social issues. I wish we would have a turn at an economic conservative and someone who would at the same time dial back the social issues.

BryanS on May 25, 2011 at 10:06 PM

Dr Evil on May 25, 2011 at 9:52 PM

Than why did Sarah campaign for him? Why are they BFFs?

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on May 25, 2011 at 10:13 PM

Morris really said that?????

toliver on May 25, 2011 at 9:35 PM

Watch the replay. Morris is idiotic. And not smiling the end of the interview. For some reason, he has a (vulgarity) for Newtie Gingrich.

Marcus on May 25, 2011 at 10:16 PM

Rick Perry should run.
He’s a strong conservative who can articulate conservative positions; he’s a leader; he has a successful record in Texas; he is pro-business! Run Rick run!

Mark7788 on May 25, 2011 at 10:23 PM

Good. The more serious, experienced people in the primary the better.

A Romney, Pawlenty, Perry, Cain, & Palin primary battle would be fantastic.

I know everyone has their problems with one or more of those five, but really any one of them could be an effective, competent POTUS.

Harpazo on May 25, 2011 at 10:37 PM

Rick Perry should run.
He’s a strong conservative who can articulate conservative positions; he’s a leader; he has a successful record in Texas; he is pro-business! Run Rick run!

Mark7788 on May 25, 2011 at 10:23 PM

Couldn’t have said it better myself!

TXMomof3 on May 25, 2011 at 10:40 PM

Couldn’t have said it better myself!

TXMomof3 on May 25, 2011 at 10:40 PM

Wow. A voice of the past.

Hey all you folks who say Perry is anti-border fence, he was just on Greta upping his border-security game: he says the fence is useless, gates are always left open, he wants more boots on the ground.

John the Libertarian on May 25, 2011 at 10:44 PM

Do you live in Texas? Of course not, that is why you don’t know that Perry is all “hat-and-no-cowboy” on the borders as well.

Mcguyver on May 25, 2011 at 7:05 PM

Does 36 years of living in Texas count? He would have my vote.

TXMomof3 on May 25, 2011 at 10:47 PM

Dr Evil on May 25, 2011 at 9:52 PM

Than why did Sarah campaign for him? Why are they BFFs?

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on May 25, 2011 at 10:13 PM

He said why.

To be fair Palin was supporting the Republican candidate for Governor, she is a loyal Republican.

Dr Evil on May 25, 2011 at 10:00 PM

Theworldisnotenough on May 25, 2011 at 9:45 PM

That’s a pretty good point about Pawlenty. On the other hand, Palin had Dems and the GOP gunning for her.

Dongemaharu on May 25, 2011 at 10:48 PM

John the Libertarian on May 25, 2011 at 10:44 PM

Nice to see you!

Perry, of all people, knows the damage to the Texas economy done by illegals. What I find interesting is that he is being said to be soft on illegals when last I heard, that ball is in the federal court. As we all know (Arizona), a state and governor can put up a tough law, and it means nothing when the federal government can squash it.

TXMomof3 on May 25, 2011 at 10:51 PM

Dongemaharu on May 25, 2011 at 10:48 PM

He said she campaigned for a fellow Repub, b/c she’s a loyal Repub. But other Palinistas say that they are BFFs and if Perry is such a bad conservative, why would Palin be personal, close friends with him?

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on May 25, 2011 at 11:00 PM

Another point about how Rubio has positioned himself as the perfect VP candidate: his focus on foreign policy issues since taking office. This is where Governors are usually lacking, and Rubio’s most vocal public statements have been on foreign policy.

Lawdawg86 on May 25, 2011 at 6:07 PM

He is for Islamic Great Society Nation Building and for the Libyan “rebels”, that’s his “foreign policy”, and he is NOT a Natural Born American Citizen.

HalJordan on May 25, 2011 at 11:14 PM

@BryanS

I think most people see a huge difference between a Republican who was a Democrat pre-Reagan and a Republican who remained a Democrat throughout the 1980s. If Reagan didn’t make you a Republican, if you were able to support Carter & Mondale vs. Reagan, and Gore & Dukakis vs H.W. Bush, then I have serious questions about whether you have goo judgment or conservative instincts.

Raisedbywolves on May 25, 2011 at 11:17 PM

*good judgment. Blackberry ftw

Raisedbywolves on May 25, 2011 at 11:20 PM

and he is NOT a Natural Born American Citizen.

HalJordan on May 25, 2011 at 11:14 PM

Oh, come on. Yes he is. Just because he isn’t an “Anglo” doesn’t mean he’s not a “natural born citizen”.

pseudoforce on May 25, 2011 at 11:49 PM

He is for Islamic Great Society Nation Building and for the Libyan “rebels”, that’s his “foreign policy”, and he is NOT a Natural Born American Citizen.

HalJordan on May 25, 2011 at 11:14 PM

C’mon Hal, doesn’t protocol require you to demand his Miami birth certificate before you start making dubious constitutional arguments about the natural born citizenship clause?

Lawdawg86 on May 25, 2011 at 11:58 PM

Immigration is not a top issue for me, but Reagan also signed onto an amnesty deal. So….
What I don’t like about Perry is he is too much like Bush–only conservative on social issues. I wish we would have a turn at an economic conservative and someone who would at the same time dial back the social issues.
BryanS on May 25, 2011 at 10:06 PM

The devil is in the details. Bush openly campaigned for amnesty in an attempt to co-opt the latino vote the same way Democrats did it with the black vote. I find that disgusting but it also reveals that it was a power play. Bush wanted the political power from getting 90% of the latino vote. Imagine if he had succeeded? 12-20 million new Republicans votes would make the party completely unaccountable. Inevitably more racial politics would infect the GOP and the same way that Democrats used the federal government to subsidize blacks, the GOP would subsidize latinos. I detested the reign of Sharpton and Jackson I am in no mood to see the reign of Chavez and Lopez.

Do I trust Perry to not travel this path? Not only do I not trust him I think he will do exactly this. I do think he would make a play toward the middle. Enforce E-verify for all federal contract, but stop short of requiring it for any projects that receive federal funds. Throw more agents at the border but stop short of completing the fence but let it chug along slowly. A sharp warning to sanctuary cities but no funds will be withheld. Amnesty activists howl, then he tries to get a coalition to approve a “path to citizenship.” A growing economy would make this even more likely. A growing economy is an eventuality no matter who is in office. I do not trust Perry.

Theworldisnotenough on May 26, 2011 at 12:24 AM

What I find interesting is that he is being said to be soft on illegals when last I heard, that ball is in the federal court.

TXMomof3 on May 25, 2011 at 10:51 PM

Great to see you again, too. I like Perry. A lot. He’s such a federalist he threatened secession when Obama came into office. That’s the sort of mettle I want from my President.

John the Libertarian on May 26, 2011 at 12:29 AM

HalJordan on May 25, 2011 at 11:14 PM

Rubio was born in Florida so save it!

annoyinglittletwerp on May 26, 2011 at 12:58 AM

annoyinglittletwerp on May 26, 2011 at 12:58 AM

I think I’ve dealt with him before. Your parents (maybe back further) have to be born on US soil, or something. Strengthens the argument Obama could have been born in Kansas in front of a hundred witnesses, and he is not a US natural born citizen even then.

Marcus on May 26, 2011 at 1:09 AM

Nice to see you!

TXMomof3 on May 25, 2011 at 10:51 PM

Sorry, TXMom, my post to you was censored. Probably because I was praising Perry for standing tall for suh-sesh-en and State’s rights.

John the Libertarian on May 26, 2011 at 1:40 AM

So many of you people are pathetic. You find something wrong with every candidate. You all sound like you would rather have 4 more of Chairman Obama rather than vote for a republican you don’t agree with 100%. Some of you say “oh no Bush 2.0″ Yeah, well me personally, and every true conservative I know, would kill to have a Bush 2.0 over a Marxist 1.0.

So have fun re-electing your communist funboy

The Notorious G.O.P on May 26, 2011 at 2:18 AM

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