Obama wrong on Israel, says … Harry Reid?

posted at 9:25 am on May 24, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

If Barack Obama got stung by a lecture from Benjamin Netanyahu last week after publicly insisting on using the 1967 borders as a demarcation for a future Palestinian state, at least he expected the leader of Israel to scold him over the demand. He probably didn’t expect one from Harry Reid. Hours after Obama’s attempt to backpedal at AIPAC from Thursday’s speech, Reid denounced even the concept of issuing demands in speeches and declared that only negotiations between the parties could create mutually defensible borders between Israel and a future Palestinian state. Reid even managed to sound angry about it:

The most powerful Democrat in Congress, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), on Monday night publicly rejected President Barack Obama’s decision to use a recent speech to lay out aspects of a potential peace deal between Israel and the Palestinians.

“The place where negotiating will happen must be at the negotiating table – and nowhere else,” Reid declared in a speech to an annual gathering in Washington of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC). “Those negotiations … will not happen – and their terms will not be set – through speeches, or in the streets, or in the media.”

When the Senate leader added, “No one should set premature parameters about borders, about building, or about anything else,” the lights quickly came up on the vast audience and most in the crowd at the Washington Convention Center rose to their feet and applauded.

Wow. Reid usually only musters that kind of passion when declaring America the loser in a war.

The White House refused comment on Reid’s remarks, but they sting. Obama framed his remarks on Thursday as merely a public statement of the principles that have guided American policy on the Israeli-Palestinian peace process for more than a decade, at least, and he’s right about that much. Previous administrations had the good sense to keep that quiet, however, and work on both sides to gain ground (pardon the pun) on an eventual, mutually-acceptable map. Both sides seem to have understood this as well. Now, just as with the earlier fumble on building in Jerusalem, Obama has changed the negotiating dynamic, and not in favor of Israel.

Reid’s speech puts Obama firmly outside of the mainstream on this issue. The White House is finding itself isolated on the fringe and losing the battle of public opinion. If Obama hoped for a game changer with his speech on Thursday, he got one — but not in the way Obama imagined.


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A talking cadaver??? Holy shiite….the zombie apocalypse is upon us!

Where’s my chainsaw?

Bishop on May 24, 2011 at 9:28 AM

Obama makes a habit of laying all his cards on the table before the betting begins.

Greenhorn.

S. Weasel on May 24, 2011 at 9:29 AM

Flash: Ice spotted on surface of Hell.

petefrt on May 24, 2011 at 9:29 AM

“Those negotiations … will not happen – and their terms will not be set – through speeches, or in the streets, or in the media.”

This from a man who declared “The war in Iraq is lost” in a speech on the Senate floor.

Baxter Greene on May 24, 2011 at 9:30 AM

Oh, like in order to save the Jewish Democrat vote, “Good Cop/Bad Cop” wasn’t planned from the beginning.

Marcus on May 24, 2011 at 9:30 AM

Harry must have gotten an earful from his Jewish donors over the weekend…

Del Dolemonte on May 24, 2011 at 9:30 AM

Spin away lsm…..spin away

cmsinaz on May 24, 2011 at 9:31 AM

The most powerful Democrat in Congress, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), on Monday night publicly rejected President Barack Obama’s decision to use a recent speech to lay out aspects of a potential peace deal between Israel and the Palestinians.

Hokey Smokes!

GrannyDee on May 24, 2011 at 9:32 AM

Maybe Reid (D-esperate for Jewish support) should remind Obama “who he is” so his foriegn policy will comport with his ethnic origins.

Western_Civ on May 24, 2011 at 9:34 AM

Second look at Har…..ah, no freaking way!

Doughboy on May 24, 2011 at 9:35 AM

Smoke screen.Obama could outlaw every casino in Vegas and this hack would still back him.

docflash on May 24, 2011 at 9:35 AM

Good grief, am I going to have to say I agree with Harry Reid?
I agree, but why is he saying all this in a speech?

scalleywag on May 24, 2011 at 9:35 AM

Reid’s stance is the counter-balance to Obama who has gone out on the Palestinian Limb. Reid shores up Democrats offended by Obama, keeping the fold of sheeple intact.

Whenever Obama says something, the opposite gets spoken ASAP by his own spokesmen.

maverick muse on May 24, 2011 at 9:36 AM

Wow. No wonder O’bama high tailed it to Ireland!

ctmom on May 24, 2011 at 9:37 AM

Western_Civ

Perhaps so. When Republicans gain the Senate majority, Reid would opt for an international diplomatic ambassador position, retiring from the Senate, launched deeper into international affairs.

maverick muse on May 24, 2011 at 9:38 AM

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

petunia on May 24, 2011 at 9:39 AM

Weeks ago, Reid knew what Obama was going to say and Obama knew what Reid was going to say, while he’s “away”.

Marcus on May 24, 2011 at 9:39 AM

Pinky gets one right.

singlemalt 18 on May 24, 2011 at 9:40 AM

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

petunia on May 24, 2011 at 9:39 AM

Unless its a 24 hr clock…

singlemalt 18 on May 24, 2011 at 9:41 AM

I’m more inclined to believe there is something in it for Harry Reid for him to be able to speak like this…in a speech. There’s always something in it for Harry, that’s his modus operendi!

scalleywag on May 24, 2011 at 9:42 AM

Sorry, but this is just Reid being a whore. If he were speaking at a CAIR convention, he would have criticized Obama for not bullying Israel enough.

A Balrog of Morgoth on May 24, 2011 at 9:44 AM

Comrade Barry dropped a fart-bomb on Israel but shat himself in the process. This one’s gonna stink for a long, long time, Comrade Barry…

joe btfsplk on May 24, 2011 at 9:45 AM

Just read in the daily caller the WH communications team has created a rapid response position for all those attacks on de ar leader

Scared?

cmsinaz on May 24, 2011 at 9:45 AM

Nevada should be ashamed.

wheelgun on May 24, 2011 at 9:46 AM

Maybe Harry just misunderstood Barack’s dialect.

txhsmom on May 24, 2011 at 9:47 AM

He-he. I love it. Our Islamic, Palestinian loving president screwed up big time and the anti-Israel democrats are scrambling to save the powerful Jewish support.

Chessplayer on May 24, 2011 at 9:47 AM

Barack Obama: The “What’s This Button Do?” President.

Patrick S on May 24, 2011 at 9:47 AM

Barack Obama: The “What’s This Button Do?” President.

Patrick S on May 24, 2011 at 9:47 AM

LOL

txhsmom on May 24, 2011 at 9:49 AM

Hilarious. How’s that for the gold at the end of the rainbow, Mr. Leprechaun?

search4truth on May 24, 2011 at 9:50 AM

Reid usually only musters that kind of passion when declaring America the loser in a war.

I don’t know about that. I’ve seen him work himself up to similar heights of passion when speaking about the “rights” of “undocumented Americans” to ignore our immigration laws, employment laws, document fraud laws, tax laws, etc.

AZCoyote on May 24, 2011 at 9:53 AM

“Those negotiations … will not happen – and their terms will not be set – through speeches, or in the streets, or in the media.”

Nor by United Nations meddling as has been done in the past. I would have hoped Harry Reid would have made that clear as well.

fourdeucer on May 24, 2011 at 9:56 AM

Hoping Obama retaliates by saying Yucca Mountain should be open for business.

tomg51 on May 24, 2011 at 9:59 AM

Let’s not forget the passion Dingy shows for federal financial support for Cowboy Poetry festivals.

slickwillie2001 on May 24, 2011 at 10:00 AM

Just caught andrea Mitchell spinning away for dear leader

Pathetic

cmsinaz on May 24, 2011 at 10:00 AM

Barack Obama: The “What’s This Button Do?” President.

Patrick S on May 24, 2011 at 9:47 AM

LOL

txhsmom on May 24, 2011 at 9:49 AM

I’m thinking more along the lines of him as Steve Urkel, as in “Did I do thaaaaaaaat?”

teke184 on May 24, 2011 at 10:00 AM

Bibi solidified his allies, Boehner and Reid, and shouted out to them in his AIPAC speech. Bibi is playing masterful chess and against the novice, O’bama.

beatcanvas on May 24, 2011 at 10:01 AM

I’m thinking more along the lines of him as Steve Urkel, as in “Did I do thaaaaaaaat?”

teke184 on May 24, 2011 at 10:00 AM

I have another vision in my head….”Hey Cletus, watch THIS!”

search4truth on May 24, 2011 at 10:05 AM

Carolyn Glick’s May 24 posting spells out the deliberate provocation that ObaMao set in motion.
http://carolineglick.com/

onlineanalyst on May 24, 2011 at 10:06 AM

I suspect most Dems are pro-Israel about the same way they are pro-life.

paul1149 on May 24, 2011 at 10:07 AM

Barack Obama: The “What’s This Button Do?” President.

Patrick S on May 24, 2011 at 9:47 AM

+1000 Thread-winner!

HomeoftheBrave on May 24, 2011 at 10:08 AM

Just read in the daily caller the WH communications team has created a rapid response position for all those attacks on de ar leader

Scared?

cmsinaz on May 24, 2011 at 9:45 AM

To bad they have to get in spin mode after the fact instead of being prepared and knowing the facts before Obama’s speech writers sent him out there to embarrass the country.

fourdeucer on May 24, 2011 at 10:09 AM

Come on folks. The call came in after AIPAC concerning “fundraising”… Harry asked what he could do for them, they said bash Obama’s plan publically, he did – fundraising intact now.

Rinse and repeat.

Odie1941 on May 24, 2011 at 10:16 AM

Let’s not forget the passion Dingy shows for federal financial support for Cowboy Poetry festivals.

slickwillie2001 on May 24, 2011 at 10:00 AM

In a somewhat related development, the Texas Legislature yesterday passed a Resolution designating Western Swing as the Official State Music of Texas. The campaign was privately funded.

Needless to say this has all of the Stevie Ray Vaughn fans in a snit. But hey, this is Bob Wills we are talking about here!

Del Dolemonte on May 24, 2011 at 10:21 AM

I think my head is going to expl0de: I agree with Harry Reid on something.

But seriously folks… I look at Harry Reid and I think of one thing: T-E-R-M L-I-M-I-T-S

FlatlanderByTheLake on May 24, 2011 at 10:23 AM

Tru dat fourdeucer

cmsinaz on May 24, 2011 at 10:25 AM

Guess “The Community Organizer” is losing his communication skills.

GarandFan on May 24, 2011 at 10:26 AM

What’s more damaging than setting the pre Six Day War lines as the boundaries of Israel/pfakistan, is Obama’s insistence that the West Bank and Gaza (and perhaps Jordan or maybe even Lebanon given the sizable pfakistinian presence there) should have contiguous boundaries. How that could be managed without breaking Israel in two, or more parts, is anybody’s (with a brain) guess.

eaglewingz08 on May 24, 2011 at 10:35 AM

The video is unavailable.

pearson on May 24, 2011 at 10:42 AM

At the height of the Iraq War, V.2, Reid and Pelosi betrayed the troops and the country by declaring defeat. This they did purely to advance their personal and political agendas.

Never forget the treachery of these traitors.

novaculus on May 24, 2011 at 10:46 AM

Moe Green’s ghost must’ve paid Reid a little visit.

TXUS on May 24, 2011 at 10:47 AM

Bibi solidified his allies, Boehner and Reid, and shouted out to them in his AIPAC speech. Bibi is playing masterful chess and against the novice, O’bama.

beatcanvas on May 24, 2011 at 10:01 AM

Interesting point. Israel, unlike the United States, is a parliamentary democracy, where the Prime Minister derives power only from a parliamentary majority. After being blindsided by the American President, he appealed to the American “parliament”: Congress.

Reid is right here–in fact, by broadcasting his intentions to unilaterally restrict Israel’s borders prior to negotiations, Obama overstepped his constitutional authority–since all treaties with foreign nations (including allies) must be ratified by 2/3 of the Senate. By this statement, Reid might be telling Obama that he doesn’t have the votes in the Senate to ratify a treaty which reduces Israel’s land area unacceptably.

Steve Z on May 24, 2011 at 10:52 AM

Well you know what they say about stopped clocks and all…

RocketmanBob on May 24, 2011 at 11:05 AM

Watch what you say Harry… or Michelle may hit you in the other eye too.

Bootleghooch on May 24, 2011 at 11:08 AM

Obama wrong on Israel

(removed superfluous words from headline)

landlines on May 24, 2011 at 11:29 AM

This was so wrong, that it was a no brainer. When even a person like Reid has to backdown the president, it shows just how wrong Obama was.
Obama was so far out of step, that if this was a month before the elections, that alone would have cost him the election…good grief, getting smacked down my Reid…the real problem is that Israel does know exactly what Obama thinks, and they don’t like it.
The voting may not change much, but the flow of cash will be substantially affected.

right2bright on May 24, 2011 at 11:35 AM

…Obama’s insistence that the West Bank and Gaza…should have contiguous boundaries. How that could be managed without breaking Israel in two…
eaglewingz08 on May 24, 2011 at 10:35 AM

Obama will assign a czar, staff, and media consultants to promote research on how to do that using tax breaks and federal grants, and create jobs at the same time to save our economy!
/s

tomg51 on May 24, 2011 at 11:54 AM

Breaking: Obama changes first name to BARUCH.

profitsbeard on May 24, 2011 at 12:00 PM

OK….what am I missing?

WTF is Reid’s motive in this? This man has had his lips surgically attached to little bammies rear-end for 2 1/2 years.

He’s a solid, fringe-left, union-funded @-hole with a fresh re-election under his belt and now he strays from the “Won’s” seat-of the-pants foreign policy?

Someone clue me in….!

Tim_CA on May 24, 2011 at 12:03 PM

But Obama is the One!
His wish is everyone’s command!

Wonder how many times Obama walks in circles in the Oval Office muttering to himself, “They just don’t get it, they just don’t get it. I am the One.”

albill on May 24, 2011 at 12:34 PM

What a surprise, Harry Reid supports neocon policy. Anyone who understands politics should not be surprised.

keep the change on May 24, 2011 at 12:41 PM

Someone clue me in….!

Tim_CA on May 24, 2011 at 12:03 PM

How many Jews do you think live in Nevada? How many own casinos in Nevada? Where does stupid dingy harry get his money? He had to come out against it! He was taken to school this week-end by those in Nevada. Besides, they had to let the Jews know that the dems (even though they’d frog march the Jews to the gas chambers) support Isreal. After all where does all the money come from. Yes, I know a lot of it comes illegally from the middle east, but we can’t let the Jews know that!
I so fear another 4 years of the “o” since he will have no brakes on him and he will be free to do anything he wants with Isreal and America. Pudgy little georgie soros and billy ayers and his wife, and piven will probably take up residences in the white house so they can advise!
How could you Jewish Americans see his treatment of Bibi last time he was in the US and still support this crap in office?
There is an article on drudge about an attorney in chicago who wants everyone to be non partisan about Isreal. Sure, now that they are on the wrong side, they want us to be non partisan. You should read the comments. I hope the tide is turning and Jews realize that conservatives are the only ones standing in the way of the destruction of Israel.
Do we Christians realize what would happen to our holy sites if the muslim brotherhood takes over this part of the world? They would do to them what they did to the large budhas in the middle east.
Wake up before it’s too late for all of us. Vote this guy out of office!

Bambi on May 24, 2011 at 12:59 PM

Kudos to Reid- A great speech end to end!

Rea1ityCheck on May 24, 2011 at 1:00 PM

Just caught andrea Mitchell spinning away for dear leader

Pathetic

cmsinaz on May 24, 2011 at 10:00 AM

I saw Shep doing that last night.

agmartin on May 24, 2011 at 1:02 PM

Just heard a good line from NewsBusters’ Jody Miller:
The President wants Israel to go back to its 1967 borders.
Israel replied that it would comply if the USA went back to its 1958 borders.
Their reasoning: No Hawaii, no citizenship for Obama, no President Obama.

itsnotaboutme on May 24, 2011 at 1:06 PM

You see, Israel has acted stupidly. All we need is a beer summit at Camp David. That oughta do the trick.

Pablo Snooze on May 24, 2011 at 1:26 PM

But I thought our President was simply misunderstood?

/

Angry Dumbo on May 24, 2011 at 1:57 PM

Is Harry showing us something?

Hey! This is the way Reid sunk the challenger in the last election. Just used her weaker remarks against her. It worked with Nevada’s staggering unemployment.

Now we have to figure out a way for someone running for POTUS to come up with more pork programs than our Dear Leader. Maybe trains going everywhere..

Ok, forget it…

IlikedAUH2O on May 24, 2011 at 2:38 PM

So this turned out to be an amateurish mistake in foreign affairs by the WH. I’m shocked, shocked. I also heard part of Bibi speech to the Congress today. He actually sounded prouder of America then Obama ever has.

Fred 2 on May 24, 2011 at 2:56 PM

In a speech at AIPAC?

Telling them what they want to hear.

Isn’t that precious.

franksalterego on May 24, 2011 at 6:41 PM