Mixed results from latest Gallup polling on abortion

posted at 2:55 pm on May 23, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

Gallup has polled on abortion for decades, ever since Roe v Wade overturned state bans on the procedure.  Two years ago, Gallup f0und that the pro-life position had taken a majority for the first time (51/42), but retreated somewhat in 2010 to a narrow 47/45 plurality.  Their latest poll, released today, gives the pro-choice position a plurality edge for the first time in three years:

Americans are closely divided between those calling themselves “pro-choice” and those who are “pro-life,” now 49% and 45%, respectively, in Gallup’s 2011 update on U.S. abortion attitudes. This is similar to a year ago, when 45% were “pro-choice” and 47% “pro-life.” However, it is the first time since 2008 that the “pro-choice” position has had the numerical advantage on this Gallup trend.

However, a majority still believes abortion to be morally wrong:

Gallup’s 2011 Values and Beliefs survey, conducted May 5-8, finds a bit more public agreement about the morality of abortion. Just over half of Americans, 51%, believe abortion is “morally wrong,” while 39% say it is “morally acceptable.” Americans’ views on this have been fairly steady since 2002, except for 2006, when they were evenly divided.

That has been true for almost the entire polling series.  Only in three years over the past ten has a majority failed to support the morally-wrong position (2001, 2006, and 2008).  Despite that, in most years since the 1975 start of the polling series, a majority supports legalized abortion “under certain circumstances.”  The position of legal under all circumstances has never had more than 34% support in almost four decades of polling, and it around the historical average this year at 27%.  Those supporting the position of making abortion illegal under all circumstances hit its historical high in this poll, but that’s only 22%.

The American populace seems to still be in flux on this question, but LifeNews puts a positive spin on it:

By a 24 percent margin, 61-37 percent, Americans take the pro-life view that abortions should either be legal under no circumstances or legal only under a few circumstances. Although Gallup doesn’t specify those “few” circumstances, polling data has consistently shown that, when asked about cases such as rape,  incest, or the life of the mother, a majority of Americans want all or almost all abortions made illegal — leaving only life of the mother or rape and incest as the exceptions.

“Americans are rather conservative in their stance on abortion, with 61% now preferring that abortion be legal in only a few circumstances or no circumstances. By contrast, 37% want abortion legal in all or most circumstances,” Gallup analyst Lydia Saad writes. “Over the past two decades, Americans have consistently leaned toward believing abortion should be legal in only a few or no circumstances, although less so in the mid-1990s than since about 1997, when combined support for these has averaged close to 60%.”

In fact, Gallup polling shows that, since 1994, a majority of Americans have held a pro-life view wanting all or almost all abortions made illegal — and that pro-life view has strengthened with an average of 60 percent of Americans saying that over the years.

The changes this year look like they could be classified as statistical noise.  However, after the 2009 result, the pro-life movement thought they had started to build momentum.  This poll suggests that more hard work is ahead before that becomes the case.

Update: My friend Steve Ertelt from Life News responds:

I believe the momentum has indeed shifted towards the pro-life side – though it’s actually more accurate to say that the momentum has always been on the pro-life side. Both the Gallup poll and polling data from other sources have shown for the last 20 years that most Americans oppose most abortions. Nothing’s really changed in that regard despite minor hiccups one way or the other in the numbers.
Looking at the current Gallup poll, its not correct to say the momentum has shifted against the pro-life side, if anything, the momentum has grown. The self-description of pro-life versus pro-choice is a misnomer as the terms have become confused and misleading to many people. Anecdotally, I had a good friend at church recently tell me she has always thought of herself as pro-choice. When asked to give details about her position on abortion, it’s clear she completely and totally opposes it. She’s clearly pro-life and doesn’t realize that’s the case and the Gallup poll makes that apparently, especially for the 10 percent of people 18-34 (including my friend) who can’t say whether they are pro-life or pro-choice on abortion despite the issues remaining the same their entire life.

The Gallup poll itself makes it clear that, on the morally wrong and legal/illegal questions, Americans have held remarkably stable views opposing all or most abortions. In fact, comparing the current poll to the previous poll shows the number of Americans who want all or most abortions illegal has increased 5 percent, and the number wanting all or most legal has dropped 2 percent even as the pro-life/pro-choice numbers flip-flopped. That’s a 7 percent pro-life shift from 2009-2010 in actual abortion views in terms of legality versus apparent abortion views based on PR/debate language (pro-life vs. pro-choice).

The actual versus perceived momentum is the key here also in terms of what is happening in the real world.
The drive to de-fund Planned Parenthood is one result of the real-world shift in momentum on the pro-life side. In years’ past, the pro-life side lost the vote by wide margins – if a vote was even taken because the expectation of a landslide defeat. The House has its biggest pro-life majority following the 2010 elections and, for the first time since Roe, the House approved cutting off taxpayer funding for Planned Parenthood. A change of hands in the Senate and White House next year could easily make that bill law. States are also passing record numbers of pro-life bills on all sorts of issues and by lopsided majorities in some cases.

The extensive exposes’ of Planned Parenthood by Live Action, the horror stories like Kermit Gosnell’s, and the buildup in opposition to Planned Parenthood like never seen before is a manifestation of the shift in pro-life opinion. And with Americans favoring the prohibition of abortion by a massive 61-37 percentage point margin, it’s no wonder there’s so much movement. And it sets up 2012 as a battle for the heart and soul of the Supreme Court that is very likely one vote away from overturning Roe and beginning the movement to legally protect women and unborn children from abortion.


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Y’all still don’t know how to do this properly.

lorien1973 on May 23, 2011 at 2:56 PM

Still trying to figure out why, other than to justify a polling company’s existence, these polls get released all the time. 62% of people are sick and tired of all these policy polls. There, I did one myself…and it is probably just as credible.

search4truth on May 23, 2011 at 3:00 PM

I was in the barn last night & found the dried dead husks of 4 little kittens, not more than a week old.
Then I found the survivor of the litter, healthy, with no mother in sight & the little guy was crawling into the dangerous open.
So I tucked him away safely in an old piece of torn blanket & left him for mom to find.
Too bad the victims of abortion don’t get such care.

Badger40 on May 23, 2011 at 3:02 PM

62% of people are sick and tired of all these policy polls. There, I did one myself…and it is probably just as credible.

search4truth on May 23, 2011 at 3:00 PM

LOL!
You are so right.
Would that America & her politicians make just one decision on where to stand without having to consult a ‘poll’.

Badger40 on May 23, 2011 at 3:03 PM

Maybe this was helped along by that spectacle of those anti-Roman collars honoring the master leader of the culture of death at Notre Dame?

Then again, maybe because the GOP has zipped up it’s pro-life briefcase in favor of those fiscal conservatives who want abortion?

Then there’s that open signal from a top candidate -let’s hide the social issue for a while.(God won’t mind, waiting will He,while we take care of the important thing -money?)

Don L on May 23, 2011 at 3:03 PM

The American populace seems to still be in flux on this question, but LifeNews puts a positive spin on it:

If you look at the actual Gallup poll, it says this about that 61% number:

Since 1994, Gallup has also asked those who think abortion should be legal under certain circumstances to say whether it should be legal in “most” or “only a few” circumstances. On this basis, Americans are rather conservative in their stance on abortion, with 61% now preferring that abortion be legal in only a few circumstances or no circumstances. By contrast, 37% want abortion legal in all or most circumstances.

Isn’t that 61% just of those who answered “abortion should be legal under certain circumstances” to a previous question, not everyone who took the survey?

Tom_Shipley on May 23, 2011 at 3:04 PM

Gallup: 61 Percent Say All or Most Abortions Should Be Illegal

Bullhead on May 23, 2011 at 3:04 PM

Always appreciate your analyses of the polls, Ed. The final poll numbers they churn out are only part of the story. Thanks for taking the time!

miConsevative on May 23, 2011 at 3:10 PM

Again, my comment from the Headlines: Isn’t it funny how *all of a sudden* as the GOP is trying to look for a nominee to get behind, all of these polls come out about conservative issues, showing them polling poorly?

Almost as if someone is trying to define “electable” in a leftward direction while there is still time to do so…..?

Sekhmet on May 23, 2011 at 3:18 PM

Why is it that these ‘cook the book’ polls ALWAYS come out in an attempt to influence primary voters and candidates?

Gallup has reached total FRAUD levels in non-election year polling. EVERY poll Gallup runs that requires NO VERIFICATION results in liberal causes winning by large margins!

What Gallup is trying to do is to push pro-life positions off of the next election slate as OBAMA is pro-abortion.

Freddy on May 23, 2011 at 3:18 PM

Abortion supporters will decline over the long term, because killing offspring does that. It will take generations though.

The future belongs to the womb, not the tomb.

spec_ops_mateo on May 23, 2011 at 3:21 PM

The slaughter of innocents is murder…
Period.

OmahaConservative on May 23, 2011 at 3:23 PM

Abortions…?

… Have at it.

Just don’t you dare get circumcised…!!!

/

Seven Percent Solution on May 23, 2011 at 3:25 PM

Gallup: 61 Percent Say All or Most Abortions Should Be Illegal

Bullhead on May 23, 2011 at 3:04 PM

Yeah, that should end abortions.

rickyricardo on May 23, 2011 at 3:27 PM

leaving only life of the mother or rape and incest as the exceptions.

 
And these “exceptions” are somewhere around 1%-3% of total abortions. A group forces acceptance of all abortions and claims they’re merely protecting this ~3%.
 
Now think of the same pro-abortion party’s views on firearms-
A similar percentage of privately owned guns (1%-3%) make up the majority of gun crimes, but we must ban all private ownership of firearms.
 
Amazing, isn’t it?

rogerb on May 23, 2011 at 3:29 PM

Forever remain mindful that Gallup is a push poll organization for the DNC. I’m surprised they’ve taken a break from pure Obama damage control though as referenced by an earlier post this indeed is Gallup trying to shore up Gallup’s beloved Obama’s political stance.

viking01 on May 23, 2011 at 3:32 PM

Almost as if someone is trying to define “electable” in a leftward direction while there is still time to do so…..?

Sekhmet on May 23, 2011 at 3:18 PM

They don’t think it’s inappropriate to fantasize about the vast right wing conspiracy, but when the right poses this kind of question, everybody goes ape crap.

Amazing, isn’t it?

rogerb on May 23, 2011 at 3:29 PM

No more am I shocked by their barbarity.

Badger40 on May 23, 2011 at 3:33 PM

Funny. Them pulling this issue out so early shows desperation aplenty. They have the race card and the only “don’t let the government get involved” issue they have. Abortion is the only way to keep Republicans out of the White House. I think this time it won’t work. Americans do vote with their wallets…I’m mostly ProChoice,mostly because of not wanting government control on most things. I never vote that way, as I find Communism the most abhorant evil. They get their way, and abortion will be the least of the Fundies on the Right’s problems. I watched GATTACA on cable the other night, and that certainly is possible with an authoritarian form of govt. Gore Vidal was a peach too. Minus massive voter fraud, I think the Commies are done….

adamsmith on May 23, 2011 at 3:35 PM

Abortions…?

… Have at it.

Just don’t you dare get circumcised…!!!

/

Seven Percent Solution on May 23, 2011 at 3:25 PM

Dude, I think you’ve got some San Francisco on your shoe. I hope it comes out in the wash.

hillbillyjim on May 23, 2011 at 3:38 PM

Don’t think of protecting life as “government control” rather think of it as protecting due process and “To secure the Blessings of Liberty to Ourselves and Our Posterity” for the citizenry regardless of geographical location or statge of physical development. That’s what the Constitution was and is for and the Supreme Court’s duty to protect including from monsters like Blackmun in their midst.

viking01 on May 23, 2011 at 3:43 PM

. I hope it comes out in the wash.

hillbillyjim on May 23, 2011 at 3:38 PM

Some stink never goes away…

Badger40 on May 23, 2011 at 3:43 PM

rogerb on May 23, 2011 at 3:29 PM

Amazing and horrible. It’s the Big Lie, isn’t it? I cannot believe how persistent that little bit of misinformation has been in swaying opinion.

Bee on May 23, 2011 at 3:44 PM

Earth to Gallup: no, the pendulum-like support of abortion is not going to make BIG NOOZ anytime soon. Quit spamming us with worthless polls.

Uncle Sams Nephew on May 23, 2011 at 3:45 PM

Why not televise a partial birth abortion followed by a sonogram of an “in the womb” abortion…

… then take the fricken poll?

Seven Percent Solution on May 23, 2011 at 3:46 PM

When Row v Wade created from mysterious penumbras from emanations (whatever you want can be found in emanations from penumbras) the numbers were 79% of all Americas were against any form of abortion.

How comfortable we get with killing innocent life. I understand Nazi Germany so much better now.

Don L on May 23, 2011 at 3:50 PM

So the baby killers are gaining ground? We’ve got deviant anal sex taught to our middle schoolers, young girls brought to kill their unborn children behind their parents back, high schoolers rallied against America, in America’s schools. Wow, things are looking up if you’re a democrat, or the devil.

frizzbee on May 23, 2011 at 3:50 PM

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/journals/3711005.pdf
 
There’s the study where the percentages are broken down, btw. Page five of the document.
 
Hint: 95%+ = poor planning and/or convenience. You know, normal “don’t want to be punished with a baby” sort of things.

rogerb on May 23, 2011 at 3:53 PM

Why not televise a partial birth abortion followed by a sonogram of an “in the womb” abortion…”

Because the same media that screamed out loud for years that it was only fetal tissue – went bonkers the last time they talked about doing it. It is the most censored item on public TV or the print press today. They fear it being shown because once would do it in for good, when little junior starts crying, why are they tearing that liitle baby’s arms and legs off mommy?

Don L on May 23, 2011 at 3:54 PM

Why not televise a partial birth abortion followed by a sonogram of an “in the womb” abortion…

… then take the fricken poll?

Seven Percent Solution on May 23, 2011 at 3:46 PM

If they can show all the garbage they do on TV now, I don’t see why this would be a problem.
Someone should do it.

Badger40 on May 23, 2011 at 3:58 PM

Still trying to figure out why, other than to justify a polling company’s existence, these polls get released all the time. 62% of people are sick and tired of all these policy polls. There, I did one myself…and it is probably just as credible.

search4truth on May 23, 2011 at 3:00 PM

82.731% of all statistics posted on the Internet are made up and have false levels of precision.

OBQuiet on May 23, 2011 at 4:00 PM

4D ultra-sound …

tarpon on May 23, 2011 at 4:09 PM

We’ve got deviant anal sex taught to our middle schoolers, young girls brought to kill their unborn children behind their parents back…

frizzbee on May 23, 2011 at 3:50 PM

Wouldn’t that first concept you seem so upset about help decrease the number of abortions?

MadisonConservative on May 23, 2011 at 4:12 PM

We’ve got deviant anal sex taught to our middle schoolers, young girls brought to kill their unborn children behind their parents back…

frizzbee on May 23, 2011 at 3:50 PM

Wouldn’t that first concept you seem so upset about help decrease the number of abortions?

MadisonConservative on May 23, 2011 at 4:12 PM

Sooo…..

Your operating theory here is what?… That teaching deviant anal sex in middle school is desirable because it would reduce unwanted pregnancies or something?

Um, not one of your better arguments Maddie.

hillbillyjim on May 23, 2011 at 4:20 PM

An inquiry: at what point have we, as a society, determined that life ends (death)? Legally and/or medically.

anuts on May 23, 2011 at 4:20 PM

Once Roe gets overturned, and with one more nominee it could, the abortion debate is going to be a lot more muted. The pro-life states will get their ban finally and CA/NY et al can keep the abortion train going. I could see the GOP at the federal level banning second and third trimester abortions, and over time hope the cultural of the whole country changes for the first trimester.

IR-MN on May 23, 2011 at 4:23 PM

An inquiry: at what point have we, as a society, determined that life ends (death)? Legally and/or medically.

anuts on May 23, 2011 at 4:20 PM

Better to ask that on a left-leaning forum; they’re the experts on “settled science” or so it seems…

hillbillyjim on May 23, 2011 at 4:27 PM

We’ve got deviant anal sex taught to our middle schoolers, young girls brought to kill their unborn children behind their parents back…

frizzbee on May 23, 2011 at 3:50 PM
Wouldn’t that first concept you seem so upset about help decrease the number of abortions?

MadisonConservative on May 23, 2011 at 4:12 PM

Someone else posting under your name MadCon?
Bcs that is major suckage right there.
LAME.

Badger40 on May 23, 2011 at 4:34 PM

hillbillyjim on May 23, 2011 at 4:20 PM

I was referring to the act itself, not the teaching of it to middle schoolers.

MadisonConservative on May 23, 2011 at 5:19 PM

I was referring to the act itself, not the teaching of it to middle schoolers.

MadisonConservative on May 23, 2011 at 5:19 PM

Sooo…. now I must deal with the fact that you see the act of deviant anal sex as preventative to unwanted pregnancy? That doesn’t sound right.

hillbillyjim on May 23, 2011 at 5:25 PM

Sooo…. now I must deal with the fact that you see the act of deviant anal sex as preventative to unwanted pregnancy? That doesn’t sound right.

hillbillyjim on May 23, 2011 at 5:25 PM

Call it deviant all you want. Call oral sex deviant if you like. Doesn’t change the fact that they help avoid pregnancy.

MadisonConservative on May 23, 2011 at 5:28 PM

Sooo…. now I must deal with the fact that you see the act of deviant anal sex as preventative to unwanted pregnancy? That doesn’t sound right.

hillbillyjim on May 23, 2011 at 5:25 PM

Depends on if you think anal sex is deviant.

Some heterosexual couples do opt for that during more fertile times and/or in lieu of birth control because, you know, you..um….can’t get pregnant that way.

Bee on May 23, 2011 at 5:31 PM

Depends on if you think anal sex is deviant.

Some heterosexual couples do opt for that during more fertile times and/or in lieu of birth control because, you know, you..um….can’t get pregnant that way.

Bee on May 23, 2011 at 5:31 PM

Where’s Jenfidel when we need her?

MadisonConservative on May 23, 2011 at 5:34 PM

MadisonConservative on May 23, 2011 at 5:28 PM

You know, for tradition’s sake we really should be asterisking pretty much everything we’re saying here. haha.

Bee on May 23, 2011 at 5:34 PM

MadisonConservative on May 23, 2011 at 5:28 PM

We really have to stop doing that. :D

Bee on May 23, 2011 at 5:36 PM

Sooo…. now I must deal with the fact that you see the act of deviant anal sex as preventative to unwanted pregnancy? That doesn’t sound right.

hillbillyjim on May 23, 2011 at 5:25 PM

Call it deviant all you want. Call oral sex deviant if you like. Doesn’t change the fact that they help avoid pregnancy.

MadisonConservative on May 23, 2011 at 5:28 PM

Never mind that you’re not making sense; I will defer to your obvious expertise.

(For your clarification, I’m pretty sure that when frizzbee referred to “deviant anal sex taught to our middle-schoolers”, he was referencing the “fisting” kerfluffle a while back involving one of Ojugears’ appointees. If you’re saying that THAT helps avoid pregnancy, then I am at a loss for words that are printable.)

hillbillyjim on May 23, 2011 at 5:37 PM

Ooops. Meant:

Where’s Jenfidel when we need her?

MadisonConservative on May 23, 2011 at 5:34 PM

Annnnyway.

Bee on May 23, 2011 at 5:37 PM

he was referencing the “fisting” kerfluffle a while back involving one of Ojugears’ appointees. If you’re saying that THAT helps avoid pregnancy, then I am at a loss for words that are printable.)

hillbillyjim on May 23, 2011 at 5:37 PM

Yeah, that’s child exploitation/abuse. I’m pretty sure that MC has forcefully denounced that in the past.

Bee on May 23, 2011 at 5:40 PM

Yeah, that’s child exploitation/abuse. I’m pretty sure that MC has forcefully denounced that in the past.

Bee on May 23, 2011 at 5:40 PM

I’m pretty sure I shouldn’t have to.

MadisonConservative on May 23, 2011 at 5:50 PM

Yeah, that’s child exploitation/abuse. I’m pretty sure that MC has forcefully denounced that in the past.

Bee on May 23, 2011 at 5:40 PM

My entire point was that Maddie jumped the gun with his 4:12 post. I guess he read frizzbee’s post differently than did I.

hillbillyjim on May 23, 2011 at 5:51 PM

My entire point was that Maddie jumped the gun with his 4:12 post. I guess he read frizzbee’s post differently than did I.

hillbillyjim on May 23, 2011 at 5:51 PM

Or maybe…just maybe…you read my post differently than it was intended.

I guess, though, that would require benefit of the doubt that I’m not in favor of child abuse. Judging by how the conversation went in the headlines threat about this, it appears that no benefit of the doubt on anything is given if you don’t fully agree with some people.

MadisonConservative on May 23, 2011 at 5:54 PM

Or maybe…just maybe…you read my post differently than it was intended.

I guess, though, that would require benefit of the doubt that I’m not in favor of child abuse. Judging by how the conversation went in the headlines threat about this, it appears that no benefit of the doubt on anything is given if you don’t fully agree with some people.

MadisonConservative on May 23, 2011 at 5:54 PM

That’s always a possibility, although in this case I’m pretty sure it was you who jumped to the wrong conclusion.

Your idiotic strawman that if I disagree with you on a point then I am accusing you of child abuse is absurd, so I won’t dignify it further.

I don’t know anything about a headline thread, so leave me out of that. I know what I read on this thread and what I responded to, as it is above in black and white.

You aren’t a very good sport are you, Maddie?

hillbillyjim on May 23, 2011 at 5:59 PM

Just over half of Americans, 51%, believe abortion is “morally wrong,” while 39% say it is “morally acceptable.” Americans’ views on this have been fairly steady since 2002, except for 2006, when they were evenly divided.

I can understand women of all ages and inclinations, even without current societal recrimination, not wanting to be “burdened” by an unwanted pregnancy. But for the life of me, how can they pretend killing their unborn child is MORAL? It’s expedient, it’s quick, it’s pretty cheap, they think it’s safe … but MORAL?

Do these 39% know the definition of the word? I. Don’t. Think. So. I have more respect for the expedient than for those who distort morality to excuse their behavior.

This self-deception and excuse making is stunning.

marybel on May 23, 2011 at 6:01 PM

Your idiotic strawman that if I disagree with you on a point then I am accusing you of child abuse is absurd, so I won’t dignify it further.

hillbillyjim on May 23, 2011 at 5:59 PM

I referred to the Headlines thread, which this is not. Yet, you took the comment as directed at you, despite your roaring contention that you had no part of it. What was that about idiocy and jumping the gun?

MadisonConservative on May 23, 2011 at 6:07 PM

My entire point was that Maddie jumped the gun with his 4:12 post. I guess he read frizzbee’s post differently than did I.

hillbillyjim on May 23, 2011 at 5:51 PM

Or maybe…just maybe…you read my post differently than it was intended.

I guess, though, that would require benefit of the doubt that I’m not in favor of child abuse. Judging by how the conversation went in the headlines threat about this, it appears that no benefit of the doubt on anything is given if you don’t fully agree with some people.

MadisonConservative on May 23, 2011 at 5:54 PM

I referred to the Headlines thread, which this is not. Yet, you took the comment as directed at you, despite your roaring contention that you had no part of it. What was that about idiocy and jumping the gun?

MadisonConservative on May 23, 2011 at 6:07 PM

Silly me.

hillbillyjim on May 23, 2011 at 6:17 PM

What was that about idiocy and jumping the gun?

MadisonConservative on May 23, 2011 at 6:07 PM

That was especially for you, because you’re special.

hillbillyjim on May 23, 2011 at 6:18 PM

despite your roaring contention that you had no part of it.

Comedy gold. bronze.

Roaring contention? What does a roaring contention look like, exactly? Let’s look and see:

I don’t know anything about a headline thread, so leave me out of that.

Ah. So that’s what a ROARING contention looks like. Good information, Madlock.

It does my heart good knowing that the world is now safe from roaring contentions.

hillbillyjim on May 23, 2011 at 6:33 PM

Hey Maddie, can I borrow that for a blog name?

Roaring Contentions.

It’s got a certain ring to it, no?

Yeah, it is rather weak.

Nevermind.

hillbillyjim on May 23, 2011 at 6:45 PM

We’ve got deviant anal sex taught to our middle schoolers, young girls brought to kill their unborn children behind their parents back…

frizzbee on May 23, 2011 at 3:50 PM

Wouldn’t that first concept you seem so upset about help decrease the number of abortions?

MadisonConservative on May 23, 2011 at 4:12 PM

What exactly about teaching even deviant sex to middle schoolers makes you think that sex would become less common?

If teaching about anal sex leads to a 40% increase in anal sex and a 20% increase in vaginal sex, then teaching about anal sex made abortion more likely, not less.

And that’s being generous. Because even though anal sex doesn’t result in pregnancy directly, it does result in greater numbers of STDs, because it is inherently unhealthy. Which, again, probably makes abortion more likely, not less.

tom on May 23, 2011 at 7:25 PM

tom on May 23, 2011 at 7:25 PM

You’ve got to be aware of the first principle of the Green Room.

It goes something like this:

I’m Madison Conservative and I’m always right; even if I’m wrong, I’m still right because I’m Madison Conservative and I say so. So there. Nanner nanner nanner.

And Stuff.

hillbillyjim on May 23, 2011 at 8:56 PM

Lefty blogger Peter Rugg recommends castration for a republican congressman, then gives out his home address! http://bit.ly/m2VTr4

boru on May 23, 2011 at 9:37 PM

hillbillyjim on May 23, 2011 at 8:56 PM

I must have missed those rules. I wish I were always right!

MC admits when he’s wrong, he’s got a great heart, is a solid conservative, a loyal friend, and a patriot. When you post on a site for as long as he has (and certainly others), you’re bound to disagree with people. Take some time to read what he says and I’m sure you’ll find more in common with him than otherwise.

Bee on May 23, 2011 at 10:22 PM

Bee on May 23, 2011 at 10:22 PM

Been there; done that.

Maddie’s a good dude; he just can’t NOT get the last word on most occasions.

I’m too hard-headed to say “uncle” unless I know I’m wrong.

That is all.

hillbillyjim on May 23, 2011 at 11:56 PM