Quotes of the day

posted at 8:30 pm on May 22, 2011 by Allahpundit

“Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s associates were satisfied by US President Barack Obama’s clarifications during his address to pro-Israel lobby AIPAC in Washington, Sunday…

“One of the associates told Ynet that the speech was ‘befitting,’ and that they were particularly pleased with Obama clarifications about considering the 1967 borders as the basis for peace talks between Israel and the Palestinians, but not necessarily as the final ones.”

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[S]ome Israeli media also asked if Netanyahu himself stoked an air of crisis.

Contrary to impressions that he was surprised by Obama’s speech [at the State Department on Thursday], reports on Sunday confirmed he was told over 24 hours ahead of time that Obama would propose a Palestinian state based on 1967 borders, and had called Washington to try to get the president to change his mind and his text — without success.

When Obama went ahead, Netanyahu, who was about to board his flight to Washington, issued a strong statement rejecting the suggestion. Officials seemed taken aback and an aide, asked if Netanyahu had been forewarned, said: ‘No comment.’…

“In radio interviews on Sunday, … Israeli ambassador to Washington Michael Oren on Sunday confirmed that Netanyahu was informed in advance. Asked by Israel Army Radio, ‘Why create a crisis?,’ Oren said: ‘We do not feel that there is a crisis. There are differences.’”

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“George Mitchell, who stepped down as the Obama administration’s special envoy to the Middle East last week, said Sunday that President Obama’s call to base Israeli-Palestinian peace talks on pre-1967 borders is not a threat to Israel…

“‘A major objective of this initiative, among others, is to prevent a disaster for Israel from occurring at the United Nations General Assembly in September, when the Palestinians have said they will see a unilateral declaration of statehood,’ Mitchell said. “The president spoke out strongly against that. We oppose it. And the way to prevent that from occurring is to provide an alternative in direct negotiation that would foreclose or make not necessary that option.’”

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“Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu must accept U.S. President Obama’s vision for Mideast peace if talks with the Palestinian Authority are to resume, chief Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat said on Sunday…

“Speaking to the Kuwaiti news agency KUNA on Sunday, Erekat said that an Israeli acceptance of Obama’s guidelines was essential if stalled negotiations were to resume, saying that as far as the Palestinians were concerned peace talks ‘actually aim at realizing this [Obamas'] objective, the establishment of the independent Palestinian state with these borders, along with swap of territories.’”

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“It’s no secret that Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas plans to lobby the U.N. General Assembly this September for a resolution that will predetermine the results of any Israeli-Palestinian negotiations on borders. He made clear in a New York Times op-ed this week that he will insist that member states recognize a Palestinian state on 1967 lines, meaning Israel’s boundaries before the Six Day War.

“Unfortunately, even President Barack Obama appears to have been influenced by this thinking. He asserted in a speech Thursday that Israel’s future borders with a Palestinian state ‘should be based on the 1967 lines,’ a position he tried to offset by offering ‘mutually agreed land swaps.’ Mr. Abbas has said many times that any land swaps would be minuscule

“If the borders between Israel and the Palestinians need to be negotiated, then what are the implications of a U.N. General Assembly resolution that states up front that those borders must be the 1967 lines? Some commentators assert that all Mr. Abbas wants to do is strengthen his hand in future negotiations with Israel, and that this does not contradict a negotiated peace. But is that really true? Why should Mr. Abbas ever negotiate with Israel if he can rely on the automatic majority of Third World countries at the U.N. General Assembly to back his positions on other points that are in dispute, like the future of Jerusalem, the refugee question, and security?”

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“That was a deeply unwise speech Obama just gave to AIPAC. The president did not ask himself the first question of political speechmaking: Why am I saying this? Instead he surrendered to his personal exasperation with Benjamin Netanyahu, and escalated a confrontation he had every reason to de-ecalate.

“The president did not merely restate his view on the 1967 lines. He added extra emphasis on a worrying point that was implicit in his big Thursday speech on the Middle East: that the future Palestinian state will have exclusive responsibility for security arrangements within its territory. So, if a rocket is fired at Israel from the West Bank, it will be the security forces of the Palestinian state that will deal with it – or not. If Hezbollah intrudes into the West Bank it will be the security forces of the Palestinian state that will react – or not. And since those security forces are to be non-militarized, they may well lack the means even if they have the will.

“The speech left me wondering: if the president is prepared to state now, in advance, that he has a view on the territorial outcome of negotiations, why won’t he state now, in advance, that he has a view on Palestinian refugee claims? Why won’t he state a view in advance on the non-division of Jerusalem? The thing most important to the Palestinians is now the official position of the Obama administration. The concerns of Israel have either been rejected in advance (security within the future West Bank Palestinian state) or else left for negotiation.”

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“Now, it was my reference to the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps that received the lion’s share of the attention. And since my position has been misrepresented several times, let me reaffirm what ’1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps’ means.

“By definition, it means that the parties themselves – Israelis and Palestinians – will negotiate a border that is different than the one that existed on June 4, 1967. It is a well known formula to all who have worked on this issue for a generation. It allows the parties themselves to account for the changes that have taken place over the last forty-four years, including the new demographic realities on the ground and the needs of both sides. The ultimate goal is two states for two peoples. Israel as a Jewish state and the homeland for the Jewish people, and the state of Palestine as the homeland for the Palestinian people; each state enjoying self-determination, mutual recognition, and peace.

“If there’s a controversy, then, it’s not based in substance.”

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His inner-muslim can’t overcome the Jooooos pulling those puppet strings!11!!

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SouthernGent on May 22, 2011 at 8:34 PM

backpedal backpedal back back back.

jeesh how predictable and they sucked it up.

djohn669 on May 22, 2011 at 8:35 PM

weasel…
words, just words

golfmann on May 22, 2011 at 8:41 PM

it means that the parties themselves – Israelis and Palestinians – will negotiate a border that is different than the one that existed on June 4, 1967

Idjit doesn’t seem to know that there was no border on June 4, 1967. There was an armistice line, and that is a very different thing from a border. Why the he!! doesn’t he learn a little history before he starts telling other countries what to do?!

ProfessorMiao on May 22, 2011 at 8:41 PM

Bibi is all class. He slaps Obama around like the amateur he is in a live press conference and then gives him cover. I’m sure he’s well aware that’s a courtesy that wouldn’t have been extended to him had roles been reversed.

Kataklysmic on May 22, 2011 at 8:41 PM

“One of the associates told Ynet that the speech was ‘befitting,’ and that they were particularly pleased with Obama clarifications…”

And….all is forgiven. The Jews can vote Dem with a clear conscience again.

In related news, battered women all across America went back to their abusers because “he promised he would change.”

Kafir on May 22, 2011 at 8:42 PM

This could be the epic OOTYear.
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Off topic:
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See the Jazz Shaw Mitch Daniel’s thread to see some troll-zapping.
nottakingsides is our newest vocal troll.

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2011 at 8:42 PM

Are we ever going to see that Rashid Khalidi/Barack Obama party tape that the LA Times has suppressed?

Fallon on May 22, 2011 at 8:43 PM

The solution to the Middle East problem has never been to take the two state Solution. THe best solution is to help the Palistinians reintigrate into other existing arab countries.

The US and Israel could help offer funds to relocate them. This has been done many times before in history.

Peace will come to the Middle East when the Palistinian state passes into history.

William Amos on May 22, 2011 at 8:44 PM

Someone acted stupidly.
Obama had a beer summit with his inner self.

Electrongod on May 22, 2011 at 8:46 PM

Peace will come to the Middle East when the Palistinian state passes into history.

William Amos on May 22, 2011 at 8:44 PM

Rope ‘em up like the animals they are and ship ‘em back to Jordan where they belong…

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2011 at 8:46 PM

And O’Bama heads to Ireland…

d1carter on May 22, 2011 at 8:48 PM

Peace will come to the Middle East when the Palistinian state passes into history.

William Amos on May 22, 2011 at 8:44 PM
Rope ‘em up like the animals they are and ship ‘em back to Jordan where they belong…

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2011 at 8:46 PM

Yes to both. Take Gaza. Take the West Bank. Let the so-called “Palestinians” live in Jordan or elsewhere.

predator on May 22, 2011 at 8:53 PM

And O’Bama heads to Ireland…

d1carter on May 22, 2011 at 8:48 PM

Why of course! Have you seen some of the golf courses there?

predator on May 22, 2011 at 8:54 PM

Someone acted stupidly.
Obama had a beer summit with his inner self.

Electrongod on May 22, 2011 at 8:46 PM

And he learned how to do this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_FzgtLVzbI

P. Monk on May 22, 2011 at 9:04 PM

0Bama is a danger and traitor to the American way of life. Unlike Superman, he hasn’t recanted…

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2011 at 9:06 PM

An inveterate liar, Obama. A flapping-lipped whore of the first order. No offense to liars or whores.

TXUS on May 22, 2011 at 9:06 PM

TXUS on May 22, 2011 at 9:06 PM

liars or whores not offended…

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2011 at 9:11 PM

What’s the over/under on the hours before he has to issue an clarification of his AIPAC speech. Moon walker in Chief.

Hummer53 on May 22, 2011 at 9:12 PM

Yesterday and today proved again that some groups of people are just insanely stupid. May they and progeny suffer directly from Obama’s destruction. They will believe, vote and pay for him. They deserve such destruction in full.

Schadenfreude on May 22, 2011 at 9:13 PM

Obama is channeling his inner Helen Thomas.

profitsbeard on May 22, 2011 at 9:13 PM

Lets review Hopey’s track record,on Bi Bi,and so far,
its Changey,who is disrespecting Isreal,and Bi Bi,who
represents Isreal!

As the so-called Leader of the Free World,BeSmirchment,
and DeBaucherization of Bi Bi,whatever the slight,is a
slap to Isreals face!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Binyamin Netanyahu humiliated after Barack Obama ‘dumped him for dinner’
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Posted by Gabrielle Cusumano on Thursday, March 25, 2010 4:57:21 PM
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{Netanyahua] a key ally to be left to his own devices while the President withdraws to have dinner in private

Binyamin Netanyahu humiliated after Barack Obama ‘dumped him for dinner’Binyamin
ahttp://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article7076431.ece

For a head of state to visit the White House and not pose for photographers is rare. For a key ally to be left to his own devices while the President withdraws to have dinner in private was, until this week, unheard of.

Yet that is how Binyamin Netanyahu was treated by President Obama on Tuesday night, according to Israeli reports on a trip seen in Jerusalem tonight as a disastrous humiliation.

After failing to extract a written promise of concessions on Jewish settlements, Mr Obama walked out of his meeting with Mr Netanyahu but invited him to stay at the White House, consult with advisors and “let me know if there is anything new”, a US congressman who spoke to the Prime Minister said today.

“It was awful,” the congressman said. One Israeli newspaper called the meeting “a hazing in stages”, poisoned by such mistrust that the Israeli delegation eventually left rather than risk being eavesdropped on a White House phone line. Another said that the Prime Minister had received “the treatment reserved for the President of Equatorial Guinea”.
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More At Times Online at: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article7076431.ece

http://gabriellecusumano.blogtownhall.com/?tag=Barack%20Obama

canopfor on May 22, 2011 at 9:15 PM

Note to Bibi…

“Don’t trust Obowma…

… He will fu%k you.

Just look at what he has done to the United States of America…”

Seven Percent Solution on May 22, 2011 at 9:17 PM

Obama is channeling his inner Helen Thomas.

profitsbeard on May 22, 2011 at 9:13 PM

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2011 at 9:17 PM

Based on Obama’s past associates, I’m not gonna take his word that he is a friend of Israel. So far his actions speak louder anyways. This is not his first flip/flop either.

..
O/T… Huge tornado hits Joplin MO. Prayers to the folks of Joplin. Hospital was hit. Any HotAir folks from the area???

kringeesmom on May 22, 2011 at 9:17 PM

Considering that Obama regularly says things without the slightest thought as to whether he actually means them or not, the “we are still friends with Israel” might as well been the recipe for enchiladas. Obama showed who his friends were by giving them the nod to do as they please to Israel without concern of the US aiding one of her most important allies.

I am just incredibly ashamed that since he is Prez, at the moment this is officially how the US treats her allies.

miConsevative on May 22, 2011 at 9:19 PM

A flapping-lipped whore of the first order. No offense to liars or whores.

TXUS on May 22, 2011 at 9:06 PM

Hmmmm….flapping-lipped whore….might like to try me some.

NO NOT Obama!!!! Some hot stuff ifn’ ya know what I mean.

P. Monk on May 22, 2011 at 9:23 PM

Timeline
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1948

1948 – The real cause of the present Palestinian refugee problem was the wave of Moslem and anti-Israel fanaticism which swept the Arab world after the creation of the state of Israel in 1948. The return of the Palestinians to their former homes became impossible …
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1967

1967 – The Jordanian Government has repeatedly insisted that it speaks for the Palestinians living in Jordan and for those in the West Bank of the Jordan River , which occupied by Israel in 1967. Israel, too, contends that the problems of the Palestinians are to be …
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http://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8#q=The+real+history+and+problem+with+the+Palestinians&hl=en&sa=G&rlz=1R2GGLL_en&biw=1440&bih=785&prmd=ivns&tbs=tl:1&tbo=u&ei=d7XZTZOpJ8n00gHJo8X8Aw&oi=timeline_result&ct=title&resnum=11&ved=0CGIQ5wIwCg&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=14b98b0e996df92b

canopfor on May 22, 2011 at 9:24 PM

I am just incredibly ashamed that since he is Prez, at the moment this is officially how the US treats her allies.

miConsevative on May 22, 2011 at 9:19 PM

I am appalled by how he treats all of our allies. What kind of BS will he serve the queen at lunch tomorrow?

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2011 at 9:24 PM

O/T… Huge tornado hits Joplin MO. Prayers to the folks of Joplin. Hospital was hit. Any HotAir folks from the area???

kringeesmom on May 22, 2011 at 9:17 PM

I’ve got folks south of there. Anderson in MacDonald County. Haven’t heard anything from them.

predator on May 22, 2011 at 9:24 PM

kringeesmom on May 22, 2011 at 9:17 PM

Prayers ascending…

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2011 at 9:26 PM

Obama is channeling his inner Helen Thomas.

profitsbeard on May 22, 2011 at 9:13 PM

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2011 at 9:17 PM

I clicked and my antivirus program reacted faster then I did. We both where racing for the “Exit” button.
My eye sight will return to normal shortly.

Electrongod on May 22, 2011 at 9:27 PM

My eye sight will return to normal shortly.

Electrongod on May 22, 2011 at 9:27 PM

Relax.
Use the eye bleach…

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2011 at 9:30 PM

miConsevative on May 22, 2011 at 9:19 PM

mmmmm enchiladas… with sour cream and spanish rice and refried beans w/cheese melted on top…. now I am not just mad, I am hungry.

kringeesmom on May 22, 2011 at 9:31 PM

Lines of Defence!
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Israel’s Requirement for Defensible Borders
Maj.-Gen. (res.) Yaakov Amidror
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Israel’s struggle for “defensible borders” is unique in international diplomacy. It emanates from both the special legal and strategic circumstances that Israel faced in the aftermath of the 1967 Six-Day War, when the Israel Defense Forces captured the West Bank and other territories in a war of self-defense. The previous armistice line of 1949 that separated the Israeli and Jordanian armies was only a military boundary and not a permanent political border, according to the armistice agreement itself. The Jordanian occupation of the West Bank occurred in conjunction with its illegal invasion of the State of Israel in 1948. In fact, Jordanian sovereignty in the West Bank was not recognized by a single Arab state. This provided the background for UN Security Council Resolution 242 of November 1967 which concluded that Israel would need “secure and recognized boundaries” that would necessarily be different from the 1967 lines. The previous status quo was not to be restored. In diplomatic shorthand, President George W. Bush stated on April 14, 2004, that Israel had a right to “defensible borders,” in order to convey the same point.
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Yitzhak Rabin, in his last appearance in the Knesset, said:
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“We will not return to the lines of June 4, 1967 – the security border for defending the State of Israel will be in the Jordan Valley, in the widest sense of that concept.” In 1980 he determined: “Our evacuation of the West Bank would create the greatest threat we can possibly face.”
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Former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger has emphasized
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that Israel needs defensible borders and that Israel must not be pressured to withdraw to the 1967 lines.
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Summary
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Looking at the question of Israel’s borders strictly from a professional military standpoint, a withdrawal to the 1967 lines will put Israel in a grave situation for the following reasons:

Israel will not have the ability to defend itself against a conventional military threat should it materialize in the future; given the current state of the Middle East, no one can promise that such a threat will not materialize.

Israel’s ability to prevent the destruction of its national infrastructure in the event of a missile attack will decline greatly, and its second-strike capability will significantly diminish.

Because of these two weaknesses, the chances will increase that Israel’s adversaries will decide to exercise their capacity to attack, in one of those two ways or in a combination of both.

With respect to terrorism, when facing curved-trajectory weapons – from mortars to rocket fire – the distance of a future border from essential areas of vital Israeli infrastructure is a critical factor affecting the success of such attacks against Israel. Moreover, to prevent other terrorist attacks against Israel, security zones add a critical element to any security fence in order to make it effective against infiltration.

The importance of geography and defensible borders has been voiced by leading international figures from different political camps. During a conversation with former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, when the Barak government was contemplating a full withdrawal to the 1967 lines (with minor adjustments), I explained that the Israeli government hoped to rely on international guarantees and U.S. backing.

Kissinger responded lividly
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that he tells everyone that
Israel needs defensible borders and he adds that Israel must not be pressured to withdraw to the 1967 lines – and then Israel considers such a withdrawal and relies on guarantees. He explained that South Vietnam had international guarantees from twenty countries. Yet when North Vietnam invaded South Vietnam, no country took Kissinger’s telephone calls. His implication was clear: do not rely on guarantees and risk withdrawing to the 1967 lines.
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Without Israeli control of the relevant territory east of the 1967 line, there is no way the Israel Defense Forces can prevent the firing of rockets and mortars from the hills dominating Ben-Gurion International Airport. One mortar shell per week in its vicinity will be enough to stop air transport completely.
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http://www.defensibleborders.org/amidror.htm

canopfor on May 22, 2011 at 9:32 PM

kringeesmom on May 22, 2011 at 9:31 PM

Now that there sounds good. I just had boring steak and potatoes with gravy…

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2011 at 9:33 PM

mmmmm enchiladas… with sour cream and spanish rice and refried beans w/cheese melted on top…. now I am not just mad, I am hungry.

kringeesmom on May 22, 2011 at 9:31 PM

Well, thanks a lot for that. *heads to kitchen to heat up some goulash*

predator on May 22, 2011 at 9:34 PM

miConsevative on May 22, 2011 at 9:19 PM
mmmmm enchiladas… with sour cream and spanish rice and refried beans w/cheese melted on top…. now I am not just mad, I am hungry.

kringeesmom on May 22, 2011 at 9:31 PM

kringeesmom:Just freaggin terrific,and here I am eating
speggetti,and tea…haha:)

canopfor on May 22, 2011 at 9:36 PM

Relax.
Use the eye bleach…

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2011 at 9:30 PM

:)

Electrongod on May 22, 2011 at 9:37 PM

O/T
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Live Storm Tracking
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canopfor on May 22, 2011 at 9:37 PM

Well, thanks a lot for that. *heads to kitchen to heat up some goulash*

predator on May 22, 2011 at 9:34 PM

I mixed two wedges of softened ‘Laughing Cow’-a brand of light cheese-with some salsa and have a delicious dressing for my Romaine salad.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 22, 2011 at 9:38 PM

Well, thanks a lot for that. *heads to kitchen to heat up some goulash*

predator on May 22, 2011 at 9:34 PM

The only time I got slapped across the face by mom was when I told her to box up that goulash sh!t and send it to starving Africans. I got sent to bed without supper, and the next day they had pork chops while I had to eat cold leftover goulash.
I was eight and never sassed her like that again…

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2011 at 9:38 PM

Now that there sounds good. I just had boring steak and potatoes with gravy…

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2011 at 9:33 PM

And you feed me Helen Thomas beaver tail stew. It just doesn’t seem right.

P. Monk on May 22, 2011 at 9:39 PM

canopfor on May 22, 2011 at 9:37 PM

Please let it hit West Texas.
we REALLY need the rain.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 22, 2011 at 9:39 PM

mmmmm enchiladas… with sour cream and spanish rice and refried beans w/cheese melted on top…. now I am not just mad, I am hungry.

kringeesmom on May 22, 2011 at 9:31 PM

Exactly. At least if he woulda said that rather than the bald-faced “Israel is my friend” lie Bibi would have had an idea what to order in when Obama snubbed him for dinner because he’s a petty little warthog.

miConsevative on May 22, 2011 at 9:39 PM

My eye sight will return to normal shortly.

Electrongod on May 22, 2011 at 9:27 PM

Relax.
Use the eye bleach

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2011 at 9:30 PM

profitsbeard on May 22, 2011 at 9:40 PM

Israel’s Pre-1967 Borders(Map)
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http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Peace/borders.htm

canopfor on May 22, 2011 at 9:40 PM

Yes We Can!… Convicted Islamist Who Threatened “South Park” Creators Was Obama Campaign Worker

http://conservativeblogscentral.blogspot.com/2011/05/yes-we-can-convicted-islamist-who.html

Nearly Nobody on May 22, 2011 at 9:41 PM

I was eight and never sassed her like that again…

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2011 at 9:38 PM

So were you just being brash? Or was the goulash really trash?

I use salsa in mine-lots of it.

predator on May 22, 2011 at 9:41 PM

Well, you ‘et off Badger40′s grill, I di’nt..
I am a midwestern clinger.

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2011 at 9:42 PM

“If there’s a controversy, then, it’s not based in substance.”

Horse crap.

HalJordan on May 22, 2011 at 9:42 PM

We will hold the Palestians accountable says the Chicago Jesus..I’m still trying to quit laughing!..:)

Dire Straits on May 22, 2011 at 9:42 PM

predator on May 22, 2011 at 9:41 PM

No Triple Crown Winner this year!..:(

Dire Straits on May 22, 2011 at 9:43 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on May 22, 2011 at 9:38 PM

And the main course is?

predator on May 22, 2011 at 9:43 PM

The only time I got slapped across the face by mom was when I told her to box up that goulash sh!t and send it to starving Africans. I got sent to bed without supper, and the next day they had pork chops while I had to eat cold leftover goulash.
I was eight and never sassed her like that again…

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2011 at 9:38 PM

I had a similar experience over some goulashy dish, mom brought it to the table and dad asked, “What the hell do you call that, mystery meat? She left for two days leaving us to fend for our selves. I do not recall a similar criticism since.

P. Monk on May 22, 2011 at 9:44 PM

So were you just being brash? Or was the goulash really trash?

I use salsa in mine-lots of it.

predator on May 22, 2011 at 9:41 PM

Ma’ was a plain label Iowegian farm gal who never heard of salsa and she hated mushrooms…
We got plain food and raw milk.

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2011 at 9:44 PM

Seeems to have a Mao glitch thingy,heres another site!

Ugh!
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Israel’s Pre-1967 Borders(Map)

http://www.iris.org.il/borders.htm

canopfor on May 22, 2011 at 9:45 PM

No Triple Crown Winner this year!..:(

Dire Straits on May 22, 2011 at 9:43 PM

Very sad. He was too far back early on–just had too much to do in the stretch.

And to top it off, if Animal Kingdom gets his nose in front at the wire, yours truly pockets over $3000.

predator on May 22, 2011 at 9:46 PM

Israel’s Pre-1967 Borders(Map)
=================================

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Peace/borders.htm

canopfor on May 22, 2011 at 9:40 PM

When the Israelis finally controlled all of Jerusalem in ’67 they ‘discovered’ that the Jordanian had been paving roads…with Jewish tombstones.
The Nazi’s used to do the same thing when they took over an area.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 22, 2011 at 9:46 PM

profitsbeard on May 22, 2011 at 9:40 PM

Ah, I am not going to be tricked again.
Darn, I clicked.

Better.

Electrongod on May 22, 2011 at 9:46 PM

O/T… Huge tornado hits Joplin MO. Prayers to the folks of Joplin. Hospital was hit. Any HotAir folks from the area???

kringeesmom on May 22, 2011 at 9:17 PM

Hubby has business associates in Joplin. It looks like the entire town took a direct hit. At least 24 dead, please pray for the town.

Fallon on May 22, 2011 at 9:48 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on May 22, 2011 at 9:38 PM

And the main course is?

predator on May 22, 2011 at 9:43 PM

It was an onion, and Swiss chicken burger from Sam’s Club.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 22, 2011 at 9:48 PM

predator on May 22, 2011 at 9:41 PM
No Triple Crown Winner this year!..:(

Dire Straits on May 22, 2011 at 9:43 PM

Dire Straits:Yup,sooo close,theres next year!

I blame Nancy Pelosi’s fluttering Botox
eye lids,that has caused a slight wind,
and slowed down,Animal Kingdom!:)
(sarc).

canopfor on May 22, 2011 at 9:49 PM

She left for two days leaving us to fend for our selves. I do not recall a similar criticism since.

P. Monk on May 22, 2011 at 9:44 PM

We ate boiled eggs, toast and Kessler for dinner when that happened.

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2011 at 9:50 PM

According to the UK Telegraph the other day, the reason that O’s speech was delayed was that Bibi had learned shortly beforehand that ObaMao planned to insert the 1967 borders tidbit into it. He supposedly had a heated conversation with Hillary Clinton about this insertion, but O went ahead with his planned speech anyway.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/8527226/Benjamin-Netanyahu-rebukes-Barack-Obama-over-1967-plan.html

ObaMao may try to walk back his intent by blaming the “misunderstanding” on the media, but he fools no one. ObaMao was being deliberately, audaciously provocative. He underestimated the more skilled Netanyahy, who schooled him soundly. ObaMao gave his own dog whistle to the Arabs, who certainly understood O’s speech, as did Netanyahu.

We have a punk in the White House.

onlineanalyst on May 22, 2011 at 9:52 PM

The President proved two very telling things, he’s willing to kiss anyone’s hiney for votes and he fully intends to ram his ideology down the throats those same people who’s hiney he just kissed.

He’s determined to continue having the power to ram more of his vision down our throats and now that includes his fear of alienating the non Jews at the UN who he needs to vote for his true calling, his international agenda, while President of the world at the United Nations.

Will he need Jews there? Or even after he’s reelected?
Will we matter? At all?

I said that the United States believes that negotiations should result in two states, with permanent Palestinian borders with Israel, Jordan, and Egypt, and permanent Israeli borders with Palestine. The borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps, so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states. The Palestinian people must have the right to govern themselves, and reach their potential, in a sovereign and contiguous state.

Speakup on May 22, 2011 at 9:52 PM

We ate boiled eggs, toast and Kessler for dinner when that happened.

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2011 at 9:50 PM

I especially liked the cheap whiskey…
My sis and brothers abstained.

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2011 at 9:54 PM

Key passages of the Telegraph piece by Tony Harden:

Mr Netanyahu’s anger was compounded by the fact that he had been taken by surprise, learning the contents of Mr Obama’s Thursday speech about the future of the Middle East just a few hours before it was delivered.

During a furious phone call to Hillary Clinton, the US secretary of state, shortly before the speech, Mr Netanyahu stated that American backing for a state based on the borders that existed before Israel’s Six-Day war of 1967 with Egypt, Syria and Jordan was unacceptable.

Mr Obama’s speech was delayed for 25 minutes as a result but the US president did not bow to Mr Netanyahu’s demands.

Although Mr Obama also spoke of land swaps that would allow Israel to annex some Jewish settlements in the West Bank, Mr Netanyahu said the proposal would leave Israel “indefensible”.

His aides went further. “There is a feeling that Washington does not understand the reality, Washington does not understand what we face,” one official accompanying Mr Netanyahu to the United States said.

American officials were dismayed that a speech they intended to be remembered for its high-minded embrace of human rights in the Middle East had immediately been embroiled in controversy as a result of Mr Netanyahu’s incandescent reaction

They pointed to a November 2009 statement by Mrs Clinton which included almost identical language to that used by Mr Obama on Thursday.

Mr Netanyahu said he would use the trip to demand that his host recant and abide by a commitment made by President George W Bush in 2004 acknowledging that a return to 1967 borders was “unrealistic”.

onlineanalyst on May 22, 2011 at 9:55 PM

Has there ever been a worse, epic failure as POTUS???
Jimmuh the wabbit boy anyone?
Who is worse?

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2011 at 9:58 PM

predator on May 22, 2011 at 9:41 PM
No Triple Crown Winner this year!..:(

Dire Straits on May 22, 2011 at 9:43 PM

Dire Straits:Yup,sooo close,theres next year!

I blame Nancy Pelosi’s fluttering Botox
eye lids,that has caused a slight wind,
and slowed down,Animal Kingdom!:)
(sarc).

canopfor on May 22, 2011 at 9:49 PM

Connections for both Shackeford and Animal Kingdom say they are 50-50 to run in The Belmont. Dialed In also. Nehro (second in the Derby) skipped The Preakness to point for The Belmont.

predator on May 22, 2011 at 9:59 PM

He supposedly had a heated conversation with Hillary Clinton about this insertion, but O went ahead with his planned speech anyway.

The “he” in the sentence above referred to Bibi in a telephone conversation with Hillary.

onlineanalyst on May 22, 2011 at 9:59 PM

Has there ever been a worse, epic failure as POTUS???
Jimmuh the wabbit boy anyone?
Who is worse?

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2011 at 9:58 PM

In the racing game we would call that a dead heat–for last.

predator on May 22, 2011 at 10:00 PM

O/T,Man,my heart goes out.
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MASSIVE TORNADO HITS HOSPITAL IN JOPLIN MISSOURI
May 22 2011
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu7B4FMKIPQ&feature=youtu.be

canopfor on May 22, 2011 at 10:00 PM

O/T
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Joplin, Missouri (64801) Radar
Latest Base Reflectivity RADAR Loop
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http://www.rssweather.com/zipcode/64801/local_base_radar.php

canopfor on May 22, 2011 at 10:04 PM

So PBHO didn’t mean it then or he didn’t mean it now, or he meant it then or he meant it now, or…*scratches head*…

Bishop on May 22, 2011 at 10:06 PM

Jerry & Craig Rivers are azzwipes…

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2011 at 10:09 PM

So is Mark Fuhrman…

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2011 at 10:11 PM

What is accidental-death-by-mom?

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2011 at 10:13 PM

Yeah… and the Devil often appears as a finely dressed Man.

hmmm….

ooonaughtykitty on May 22, 2011 at 10:13 PM

Just curious, how many states do the Palestinian people need?

If Jordan wasn’t enough, what makes anyone think any other compromise could possibly work?

clement on May 22, 2011 at 10:16 PM

What is accidental-death-by-mom?

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2011 at 10:13 PM

It’s “I meant to give her just enough cloroform to keep her asleep until I was done partying and othersiwe bein’ a ho, but I overdid it.”

predator on May 22, 2011 at 10:16 PM

Just curious, how many states do the Palestinian people need?

They should have 57, just like we do–PBHO.

predator on May 22, 2011 at 10:18 PM

It’s “I meant to give her just enough cloroform to keep her asleep until I was done partying and othersiwe bein’ a ho, but I overdid it.”

predator on May 22, 2011 at 10:16 PM

What a nasty mother.
She should be put down like the female dog she is…

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2011 at 10:19 PM

I was just thinking earlier today, you know, Obama needs to get out there more and make more speeches.

Can’t even enjoy a Sunday without this loaf of siht.

carbon_footprint on May 22, 2011 at 10:22 PM

What a nasty mother.
She should be put down like the female dog she is…

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2011 at 10:19 PM

She deserves nothing but the worst, that’s for sure.

predator on May 22, 2011 at 10:22 PM

canopfor on May 22, 2011 at 9:37 PM

Please let it hit West Texas.
we REALLY need the rain.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 22, 2011 at 9:39 PM

annoyinglittletwerp:I’ll do a rain dance for ya,btw,good
gawd,its been a horrific month,and still
ongoing,in Tornado Alley thingy!

I think,were going to get nailed shortly
!:)
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http://www.wunderground.com/radar/radblast.asp?zoommode=pan&prevzoom=zoom&num=1&frame=0&delay=15&scale=1.000&noclutter=0&ID=APX&type=N0R&showstorms=10&lat=0&lon=0&label=you&map.x=400&map.y=240&scale=1.000&centerx=400&centery=240&showlabels=1&rainsnow=0&lightning=0&lerror=20&num_stns_min=2&num_stns_max=9999&avg_off=9999&smooth=0

canopfor on May 22, 2011 at 10:24 PM

Can’t even enjoy a Sunday without this loaf of siht.

carbon_footprint on May 22, 2011 at 10:22 PM

I had FNC on this morning and saw that jug-ears was getting ready to give another speech, and I thought,”What a great time to put on some tunes and do my spring bug spraying around the house and exterior.”

predator on May 22, 2011 at 10:24 PM

Scott Johnson of powerlineblog links a great live-blogging of O’s speech to AIPAC:
http://www.yourish.com/2011/05/22/14344

onlineanalyst on May 22, 2011 at 10:25 PM

She deserves nothing but the worst, that’s for sure.

predator on May 22, 2011 at 10:22 PM

I’d call her a b!tch, but my late and loving mother wouldn’t like that.

OmahaConservative on May 22, 2011 at 10:25 PM

Please let it hit West Texas.
we REALLY need the rain.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 22, 2011 at 9:39 PM

We in east central Ill-annoy will gladly share with our brothers and sisters from west Texas.

predator on May 22, 2011 at 10:26 PM

Just curious, how many states do the Palestinian people need?

Just one: The State of Perpetual Target Practice.

Uncle Sams Nephew on May 22, 2011 at 10:27 PM

May God comfort the citizens of Joplin, Missouri. And please, Lord, remember that Obama’s view of Israel is not that of the majority of Americans.

kingsjester on May 22, 2011 at 10:31 PM

“Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu must accept U.S. President Obama’s vision for Mideast peace if talks with the Palestinian Authority are to resume, chief Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat said on Sunday…

i don’t think so…

cmsinaz on May 22, 2011 at 10:32 PM

Pawlenty Announces Candidacy a Day Early

On the eve of his own planned campaign announcement, Tim Pawlenty released an Internet video declaring that he is running for president because he — unlike President Obama — has the courage to face America’s challenges.

In another slickly produced video that has become a hallmark of his campaign, Mr. Pawlenty, the former Republican governor of Minnesota, confirmed Sunday night that he would officially begin his bid for his party’s nomination in Iowa on Monday.

steebo77 on May 22, 2011 at 10:32 PM

canopfor on May 22, 2011 at 9:40 PM

When the Israelis finally controlled all of Jerusalem in ’67 they ‘discovered’ that the Jordanian had been paving roads…with Jewish tombstones.
The Nazi’s used to do the same thing when they took over an area.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 22, 2011 at 9:46 PM

annoyinglittletwerp:It makes one sick,what these Jihadys
have done,and still are, to Israel!

Imagine a Muslim World Caliphate,

a HELL ON EARTH:)

canopfor on May 22, 2011 at 10:36 PM

May God comfort the citizens of Joplin, Missouri. And please, Lord, remember that Obama’s view of Israel is not that of the majority of Americans.

kingsjester on May 22, 2011 at 10:31 PM

kingsjester:Amen on both:)

canopfor on May 22, 2011 at 10:38 PM

“Obama backpedaling, looking up, he’s at the warning track- OOOOOH! HE HIT THE WALL! THE BALL ROLLS FREE! THAT’S GONNA LEAVE A MARK!”

SuperCool on May 22, 2011 at 10:40 PM

canopfor on May 22, 2011 at 9:49 PM

Connections for both Shackeford and Animal Kingdom say they are 50-50 to run in The Belmont. Dialed In also. Nehro (second in the Derby) skipped The Preakness to point for The Belmont.

predator on May 22, 2011 at 9:59 PM

predator:Interesting,thanks!:)

canopfor on May 22, 2011 at 10:41 PM

Imagine a Muslim World Caliphate,

a HELL ON EARTH:)

canopfor on May 22, 2011 at 10:36 PM

I’m certain that I speak for many when I say that I WILL NOT SUBMIT!

annoyinglittletwerp on May 22, 2011 at 10:41 PM

Boy, I’d hate to be an Israeli and hear this from Obama:

But even as we do all that’s necessary to ensure Israel’s security, even as we are clear-eyed about the difficult challenges before us, and even as we pledge to stand by Israel through whatever tough days lie ahead, I hope we do not give up on that vision of peace. For if history teaches us anything, if the story of Israel teaches us anything, it is that with courage and resolve, progress is possible. Peace is possible.

The Talmud teaches us that, “So long as a person still has life, they should never abandon faith.” And that lesson seems especially fitting today.

For so long as there are those across the Middle East and beyond who are standing up for the legitimate rights and freedoms which have been denied by their governments, the United States will never abandon our support for those rights that are universal.

And so long as there are those who long for a better future, we will never abandon our pursuit of a just and lasting peace that ends this conflict with two states living side by side in peace and security. This is not idealism; it is not naïveté.

Sounds to me that he’s totally prepared to have Israel take the brunt of the sacrifice. (from Althouse)

r keller on May 22, 2011 at 10:43 PM

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