Obama to Congress: It’s time for you to pass a resolution supporting the mission in Libya

posted at 8:46 pm on May 20, 2011 by Allahpundit

So the War Powers Act won’t be Raptured after all. Or will it?

Facing criticism from Congress that authority for U.S. military action in Libya is about to expire under the War Powers Act, President Obama asked congressional leaders late Friday for a resolution of support for continuing the military involvement.

“It has always been my view that it is better to take military action, even in limited actions such as this, with congressional engagement, consultation and support,” Obama wrote in a letter to the Democratic and Republican leaders of the House and Senate. “Congressional action in support of the mission would underline the U.S. commitment to this remarkable international effort.”…

From the political left, Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) has said he would seek to put a resolution before the House next week “to force a vote on our adventure in Libya and to attempt to bring Congress to a realization of the serious erosion of constitutional authority.”

Needless to say, no, it hasn’t “always” been his view that military action is better with congressional engagement. If that were true, Hillary wouldn’t have told Congress to get bent at the beginning of the mission when War Powers concerns were first raised. It is, however, a smart play for him to bless the idea of a resolution now. After all, had he not sent this letter, he would have been in a bad spot if Kucinich somehow managed to force a floor vote. To see why, read this withering op-ed by law profs Bruce Ackerman and Oona Hathaway from a few days ago comparing him — unfavorably — to the dreaded Bushitler in his contempt for Congress in matters of war. Sample quote: “If nothing happens, history will say that the War Powers Act was condemned to a quiet death by a president who had solemnly pledged, on the campaign trail, to put an end to indiscriminate warmaking.” Each day that passed with O failing to seek authorization of the mission would have fed that narrative, and any thwarted attempts by Kucinich or Rand Paul or whoever else to get Congress to take it up while Obama stood silent would have fed it twice over.

So today, at long last, Obama finally checked the box: Now that he’s on record as pretending that he reeeeeally wants a congressional vote on this, the onus is completely on Reid and Boehner to deal with it. Which, of course, they don’t want to do; the Libya mission is way too open-ended and ancillary to U.S. security interests for the average congresscritter to want to firmly commit to it or against it. For all the attention devoted online to Obama’s power grab in this case, it’s just as much a story about Congress’s gutless cession of power in refusing to take this matter up on its own initiative. In fact, at last check, even people like Kerry and McCain who are willing to vote on a resolution might not make it a full-blown official authorization of the mission under the War Powers Act. They might do something lesser, like a “statement of support” for the mission that leaves them a bit of wiggle room if things go to hell in Libya and then suddenly they have to pretend like they never really said they supported it. They’re such babies.

And by the way, note that in O’s letter he never says that he needs Congress’s support, just that it’s always better to have it. He’s still a skeptic of the War Powers Act, in other words; he simply doesn’t want a legal battle over it if he can help it, since that would mean bad press for months. His new argument for why the WPA (still) doesn’t apply to the Libya mission is that we’re merely “supporting” NATO and military action is “intermittent,” so the 60-day clock isn’t really running right now. What happens if we move back into a more proactive role military and the fighting becomes less intermittent? Only The One’s legal team knows. In lieu of an exit question, I’ll leave you with this parting though: Imagine what the media coverage of this episode would have looked like under Bush.


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Question:

What exactly is the mission?

DeathB4Tyranny on May 20, 2011 at 8:49 PM

WTF

Electrongod on May 20, 2011 at 8:51 PM

From the political left, Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) has said he would seek to put a resolution before the House next week “to force a vote on our adventure in Libya and to attempt to bring Congress to a realization of the serious erosion of constitutional authority.”

Everytime Kucinich opens his pie hole, I hear ““Children of the Sun” by Billy Thorpe.

It’s the ONLY way I can tolerate him.

Roy Rogers on May 20, 2011 at 8:51 PM

Imagine what the media coverage of this episode would have looked like under Bush

If Bush would have pulled this after the Dems won in ’06 he would have been impeached.

Kataklysmic on May 20, 2011 at 8:51 PM

War criminal.

Aquateen Hungerforce on May 20, 2011 at 8:55 PM

Question:

What exactly is the mission?

DeathB4Tyranny on May 20, 2011 at 8:49 PM

Reelection.

the_nile on May 20, 2011 at 8:59 PM

Sam Cooke sang a singhttp://”>song about The Zero years ago

As he fails and flails he may be singing it to his supporters as he begs for votes in 2012.

The lyrics:

What a Wonderful World This Would Be of Sam Cooke

What a wonderful world this would be

Don’t know much about history
Don’t know much biology
Don’t know much about a science book
Don’t know much about the French I took

But I do know that I love you
And I know that if you love me too
What a wonderful world this would be

Don’t know much about geography
Don’t know much trigonomitry
Don’t know much about algebra
Don’t know what a slide rule is for

But I do know one and one is two
And if this one could be with you
What a wonderful world this would be

Now I don’t claim, to be an A-student
But I’m trying to be
For maybe by being an A-student, baby
I could win your love for me

Don’t know much about history
Don’t know much biology
Don’t know much about a science book
Don’t know much about the French I took

History?Biology?.
Science book?.
French I took? Yeah:

But I do know one and one is two
And if this one could be with you ?

What a wonderful world this would be.

http://www.the-lyrics-site.com/show-lyrics.php?lid=20898&artist=Sam+Cooke&title=What+a+Wonderful+World+This+Would+Be

Cody1991 on May 20, 2011 at 9:00 PM

Oops….. here’s the link for Sam singing Barry’s Song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enzHD7qWDnsa href=”http://”>sing

Cody1991 on May 20, 2011 at 9:02 PM

Harry ponders MackDaddy’s request.

davidk on May 20, 2011 at 9:03 PM

Take it to the floor now. Lets have the vote. Stop putting the issue off

offroadaz on May 20, 2011 at 9:04 PM

So Caesar wants the Roman Senate to endorse the action he’s going to do anyway.

rbj on May 20, 2011 at 9:04 PM

Can we impeach him yet?

Fortunata on May 20, 2011 at 9:05 PM

too late. already unconstitutional.

CWforFreedom on May 20, 2011 at 9:09 PM

Where’s Gen. James Mattoon Scott when we actually need him?

JimP on May 20, 2011 at 9:09 PM

In lieu of an exit question, I’ll leave you with this parting though: Imagine what the media coverage of this episode would have looked like under Bush.

Time for another presidential assassination movie?

Tell me again, Obama is, or is not, a Constitutional lawyer?

Kini on May 20, 2011 at 9:10 PM

Congress to Obama: STFU.

Ward Cleaver on May 20, 2011 at 9:12 PM

Tell me again, Obama is, or is not, a Constitutional lawyer?

Kini on May 20, 2011 at 9:10 PM

Yep…so is Crr6.
Enough said.

Electrongod on May 20, 2011 at 9:12 PM

Question:

What exactly is the mission?

DeathB4Tyranny on May 20, 2011 at 8:49 PM

It is rumored that Ronald McDonald is hiding out there. They will not rest unti they get that dangerous criminal! / sarc

I figure that is why the lobs are so deathly quiet about war mongering Obama. Right?

bluemarlin on May 20, 2011 at 9:12 PM

just say no

pedestrian on May 20, 2011 at 9:13 PM

-Mr. President, you should really get congress’s approval.

“Yeah whatever.”

-Sir, you may get hammered for this next year.

“Ok fine. Sweet baby Mohammed but congress can be a pain in my azz.”

Bishop on May 20, 2011 at 9:14 PM

It isn’t that they lie that’s surprising, it’s that they do it without the slightest hint of embarassment or evidence of conscience. Then again they kill off babies without a conscience either.

No wonder they insist that God not be allowed in the pulic square.

Don L on May 20, 2011 at 9:14 PM

days, not weeks…

equanimous on May 20, 2011 at 9:15 PM

It would be interesting if Congress tells PBHO to shove it, and then see what he does after.

The pretzelizing rationalization of the MSM ho’s in support if PBHO kept the war going would almost be pay-per-view worthy.

Bishop on May 20, 2011 at 9:17 PM

Time for another presidential assassination movie?

Tell me again, Obama is, or is not, a Constitutional lawyer?

Kini on May 20, 2011 at 9:10 PM

I will take, he stayed in a Holiday Inn Express the night before he made that claim for $2,000, Alex!

Constitutional lawyer needs to at least pick up some Cliff’s notes at least, what a farce he is.

bluemarlin on May 20, 2011 at 9:17 PM

days, not weeks…

equanimous on May 20, 2011 at 9:15 PM

Less then 1 trimester.
That sounds better, no?
/

Electrongod on May 20, 2011 at 9:17 PM

We would (rightly) think Libya was at war with us if they were doing 1/1000 the hostilities to us that we are doing to them. Of course it is war. A small war for us, but no less real.

G. Charles on May 20, 2011 at 9:17 PM

On the other hand, the GOP asked for this. They are enablers of Obama the liar.

One of them actually spoke the truth and called Obama on his big lie. Then, in the worst possible move -he caves under pressure from his own party and apologized. They just don’t deserve any power either.

Don L on May 20, 2011 at 9:19 PM

One question only: What’s the exit strategy?

Don L on May 20, 2011 at 9:21 PM

bluemarlin on May 20, 2011 at 9:12 PM

ROTFL. Ronald McDonald indeed.

JimP on May 20, 2011 at 9:28 PM

Wow. If a Republican president thumbed his nose at congress the socialist media shills would be screaming. hell they screamed and lied WITH the authorization.

dogsoldier on May 20, 2011 at 9:29 PM

I thought this was only going to last a couple of days!/

Imagine what the media coverage of this episode would have looked like under Bush

If Bush would have pulled this after the Dems won in ’06 he would have been impeached.

Kataklysmic on May 20, 2011 at 8:51 PM

Absolutely.

INC on May 20, 2011 at 9:31 PM

This is a Progressive Joke I bet!!

canopfor on May 20, 2011 at 9:38 PM

Where’s Cindy Sheehan and Code Pink?…. I thought so…

sandee on May 20, 2011 at 9:43 PM

Boehner absolutely has to say “no”, and defund it.

Rebar on May 20, 2011 at 9:44 PM

We need impeachment!

tinkerthinker on May 20, 2011 at 9:44 PM

ENSIGN, HUTCHISON RESOLUTION DECLARES LIBYA NOT IN OUR NATIONAL INTEREST
Apr 14, 2011
**************

Washington, D.C. – Senators John Ensign (R-NV) and Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX) today introduced a resolution that would declare that the United States has no vital interest in Libya. The resolution would also assert that Congress has not authorized military force in the region, contrary to what the Administration says.

“As the situation in Libya has played out, I have been asking questions of this Administration as to what our role is and will be in the region,” said Sen. Ensign. “These questions have not been adequately addressed by either President Obama or his cabinet members. For this reason and because the Senate has yet to fully debate this issue, I believe that the Senate needs to pass this resolution declaring that our country has no vital interest in Libya so that we can get our servicemen and -women out of there once and for all.”

“The president should never commit our military forces to battle unless there is a vital national security interest at stake and without authorization from Congress. The conflict in Libya does not meet this test,” said Sen. Hutchison. “With our forces providing the leadership for combat operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, our NATO allies and the Arab league, which do have vital interests in Libya, should bear the major share of the costs and the burden for future operations there.”

The resolution does three things:

declares that there is no vital U.S.-American interest in Libya; states that Congress has not authorized military power in the region; declares that the NATO allies and Arab nations that do have a vital interest in the region should step up their military and financial contributions. Passage of this resolution by the Senate would express its disapproval of the handling of this intervention and serve as a warning against deeper military involvement in a conflict that does not affect our vital interests.

http://hutchison.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=538

canopfor on May 20, 2011 at 9:44 PM

If our involvement is so little that it doesn’t need Congressional approval, then it won’t be missed when we yank it, right?

windbag on May 20, 2011 at 9:45 PM

What happens if Congress gives this resolution a unanimous vote of ‘present’?

PeterPotamus on May 20, 2011 at 9:49 PM

Press Releases Media
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April 14, 2011
ENSIGN, HUTCHISON RESOLUTION DECLARES LIBYA NOT IN OUR NATIONAL INTEREST
********************
********************

Washington, D.C. –Senators John Ensign (R-NV) and Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX) today introduced a resolution that would declare that the United States has no vital interest in Libya. The resolution would also assert that Congress has not authorized military force in the region, contrary to what the Administration says.

“As the situation in Libya has played out, I have been asking questions of this Administration as to what our role is and will be in the region,” said Ensign. “These questions have not been adequately addressed by either President Obama or his cabinet members. For this reason and because the Senate has yet to fully debate this issue, I believe that the Senate needs to pass this resolution declaring that our country has no vital interest in Libya so that we can get our servicemen and –women out of there once and for all.”

“The president should never commit our military forces to battle unless there is a vital national security interest at stake and without authorization from Congress. The conflict in Libya does not meet this test,” said Sen. Hutchison. “With our forces providing the leadership for combat operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, our NATO allies and the Arab league, which do have vital interests in Libya, should bear the major share of the costs and the burden for future operations there.”

The resolution does three things: declares that there is no vital U.S.-American interest in Libya; states that Congress has not authorized military power in the region; declares that the NATO allies and Arab nations that do have a vital interest in the region step up their military and financial contributions. Passage of this resolution by the Senate would express its disapproval of the handling of this intervention and serve as a warning against deeper military involvement in a conflict that does not affect our vital interests.

To read Senator Ensign and Senator Hutchison’s Resolution,
—*click here.
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112TH CONGRESS
1ST SESSION S. RES. ll
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Expressing the sense of the Senate that it is not in the vital interests
of the United States to intervene militarily in Libya, calling on NATO
to ensure that member states dedicate the resources necessary to ensure
that objectives as outlined in United Nations Resolutions 1970 and
1973 are accomplished, and to urge members of the Arab League who
have yet to participate in operations over Libya to provide additional
military and financial assistance.
===================================

The (PDF)is a SECURE DOCUMENT,you have too click on the
link,to access it,I copy/pasted a bit above!

*click here.

Press Releases
April 14, 2011
ENSIGN, HUTCHISON RESOLUTION DECLARES LIBYA NOT IN OUR NATIONAL INTEREST
******************

http://ensign.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Media.PressReleases&ContentRecord_id=55bfb410-0527-a803-1132-20fd6ee53faa

canopfor on May 20, 2011 at 9:52 PM

But you are so awesome that you should just be able to say something and it is so.

/hate him

carbon_footprint on May 20, 2011 at 10:11 PM

Everytime Kucinich opens his pie hole, I hear ““Children of the Sun” by Billy Thorpe.

It’s the ONLY way I can tolerate him.

Roy Rogers on May 20, 2011 at 8:51 PM

OMG! That’s awesome! Love the song. Used to play it in the middle of the night with the lights out when I was in high school. One of my favs.

nukemhill on May 20, 2011 at 10:15 PM

According to Drudge, Zero has told congress to fuggetaboutit.
Doesn’t need any permission.

pambi on May 20, 2011 at 10:18 PM

According to Drudge, Zero has told congress to fuggetaboutit.
Doesn’t need any permission.

pambi on May 20, 2011 at 10:18 PM

pambi:Yup,I caught that.Its surreal!

canopfor on May 20, 2011 at 10:26 PM

Start impeachment hearings in days not weeks.

Fallon on May 20, 2011 at 10:46 PM

Code Pink, calling Code Pink….hahahahaha! Where are those foolish pacifist babes now? Home cooking a meal for their husband I assume….

right2bright on May 20, 2011 at 10:46 PM

Here’s the quote:

“Since April 4,” the president wrote, “U.S. participation has consisted of: (1) non-kinetic support to the NATO-led operation, including intelligence, logistical support, and search and rescue assistance; (2) aircraft that have assisted in the suppression and destruction of air defenses in support of the no-fly zone; and (3) since April 23, precision strikes by unmanned aerial vehicles against a limited set of clearly defined targets in support of the NATO-led coalition’s efforts.”

So….. what 0bama is saying is that the U.S. IS providing materials and aircraft missions that are destroying air defenses.

So:

1. Destroying Qaddafi’s air defenses is an act of war, as long as Qaddafi has not been legally deposed by the Libyan citizenry.

2. 0bama is committing the U.S. to an Act of War each time a U.S bomb falls.

3. 0bama makes the excuse that the U.S. actions fall under the aegis and responsibility of higher powers,as in the U.N and NATO.

And so, he is negating the War Powers Act by saying, essentially, that the U.S. is not at war because it is a subcontractor to other political organizations, specifically the U.N and NATO.

THIS IS A COMPLETE SURRENDER OF AMERICAN SOVEREIGNTY!

I would seriously like to see a debate right here, right now, between Barack 0bama and George Washington.

What 0bama is doing here is an unprecendented, precedent-setting, surrender of American sovereignty and, to be blunt, a whoring out of the American military….

This president is pure poison.

While we are watching American Idol and Dancing With the Stars, he is dismantling America.

I may take flack for this, but 0bama’s steady, inexorable violation of American norm after American norm, accompanied by political passivity on the part of the opposition, reminds me of the political progress of a 20th-century politician named A. Hitler. There – I said it – but the transgressive nature of the 0bama administration invites serious comparisons, devoid of hyperbole.

cane_loader on May 21, 2011 at 12:38 AM

Question:

What exactly is the mission?

DeathB4Tyranny on May 20, 2011 at 8:49 PM

He’ll tell us later, if it works

I may take flack for this, but 0bama’s steady, inexorable violation of American norm after American norm, accompanied by political passivity on the part of the opposition, reminds me of the political progress of a 20th-century politician named A. Hitler. There – I said it – but the transgressive nature of the 0bama administration invites serious comparisons, devoid of hyperbole.

cane_loader on May 21, 2011 at 12:38 AM

I have been thinking this a lot. His people wont prosecute voter intimiation. He wouldnt call up FEMA for the oil spill, but they wouldn’t let reporters in to view some coastal areas. He appoints a shadow cabinet paid by unknown funding and not approved by Congress. He sues a state trying to get Federal law enforced. He promotes a gigantic bill written outside Congress, which Congressmen must read after they vote on it. He imposes a moratorium on drilling which a judge strikes down, to no avail. He portions out to his friends or to those who will give him something in return, exemptions from laws he imposes on everyone else. His vote buying deals in the WH were blatantly corrupt, with entire states being given exemption from a law, if the Senator will vote to impose the law on other states.

When Hitler moved outside the law he had many opponents but he had one big friend, the press. I was impressed by a man whose father had been involved in a plot to kill hitler. This man, asked about the press on the Hitler era, said it was amazing how little the press criticized Hitler’s improper actions. Much has been written of those days, but missing from the narrative is the passivity of the press

The story of Hitler was not the Wehrmacht or the S.S. but the silence of those who wanted him at any cost

entagor on May 21, 2011 at 2:13 AM

Waitaminit waitaminit waitaminit here, AP. Go read the Constitution. Obama has laid waste to the Constitution itself. The sole authority to declare war and commit troops sits with the House. The POTUS absolutely may not do it himself.

The War Powers Act provided an unconstitutional figleaf that allowed the POTUS to commit troops in three cases, first a declaration of war (House), statutory action (House and Senate), or a direct attack on the US which made it impractical for the House to meet and act. None of those three events took place.

If Obama breaks the War Powers Act he also breaks the Constitution and should be kicked out of office forthwith. He should have been under impeachment 60 days ago. He should be now. I don’t give a foop if the Senate will not convict on the House’s impeachment. It MUST happen. Otherwise the Constitution is dead. And maybe the horse might learn to sing and the Senate might convict.

I also note that every member of our troops involved in Libya is following purely illegal orders.

{^_^}

herself on May 21, 2011 at 8:30 AM

Question:

What exactly is the mission?

DeathB4Tyranny on May 20, 2011 at 8:49 PM

Racist!

TugboatPhil on May 21, 2011 at 9:01 AM

Poor Barry, found to be a hypocrite once again!

GarandFan on May 21, 2011 at 9:37 AM

“So today, at long last, Obama finally checked the box: Now that he’s on record as pretending that he reeeeeally wants a congressional vote on this, the onus is completely on Reid and Boehner to deal with it. ”

ABC news has a completely opposite take on the letter and they are saying he is telling congress he does not need their permission.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2011/05/white-house-on-war-powers-deadline-limited-us-role-in-libya-means-no-need-to-get-congressional-autho.html

In an effort to satisfy those arguing he needs to seek congressional authorization to continue US military activity in accordance with the War Powers Resolution, President Obama wrote a letter to congressional leaders this afternoon suggesting that the role is now so “limited” he does not need to seek congressional approval.

JeffinSac on May 21, 2011 at 9:38 AM

“So today, at long last, Obama finally checked the box: Now that he’s on record as pretending that he reeeeeally wants a congressional vote on this, the onus is completely on Reid and Boehner to deal with it. ”

ABC news has a completely opposite take on the letter and they are saying he is telling congress he does not need their permission.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2011/05/white-house-on-war-powers-deadline-limited-us-role-in-libya-means-no-need-to-get-congressional-autho.html

In an effort to satisfy those arguing he needs to seek congressional authorization to continue US military activity in accordance with the War Powers Resolution, President Obama wrote a letter to congressional leaders this afternoon suggesting that the role is now so “limited” he does not need to seek congressional approval.

JeffinSac on May 21, 2011 at 9:38 AM

What 0bama is doing here is an unprecendented, precedent-setting, surrender of American sovereignty and, to be blunt, a whoring out of the American military….

This president is pure poison.

While we are watching American Idol and Dancing With the Stars, he is dismantling America.

cane_loader on May 21, 2011 at 12:38 AM

+1000. And it wouldn’t surprise me in the least if Bambi and Moochelle danced their little tootsies off on Stars before the 2012 election.

panem et circenses

GrannyDee on May 21, 2011 at 12:15 PM

“Children of The Sun”? I prefer Billy Thorpe’s “East of Eden’s Gate”. One of the great crank up your speakers tracks ever.

L.N. Smithee on May 21, 2011 at 12:29 PM

What exactly is the mission?

DeathB4Tyranny on May 20, 2011 at 8:49 PM

Who knows, and who cares? It’s another Middle Eastern occupation that’ll backfire on us.

Uncle Sams Nephew on May 22, 2011 at 12:57 PM