Just a reminder: World to end in a few hours

posted at 5:26 pm on May 20, 2011 by Allahpundit

The Rapture is upon us, and yet I blog on. Looking ahead to tonight’s schedule, I’ll have something on the debt-ceiling fight at around the time the first huge quake is shattering the continental United States, and then, later, an item on Mitch Daniels’s health-care plan just as “the Beast” is first being spotted in the night sky. We’ll also have a post about Palin hinting at a presidential run, but Ed and Tina may end up being Raptured before they can get to it. If so, that one’s on me too. Damn — I hate working late on Friday.

Needless to say, as a confirmed unbeliever, I’ll be here for the duration of the Tribulations, so if you guys have any loose ends you need me to tie up on your behalfs, leave ‘em in the comments. I’ll try to get to all of them, but realistically, there’ll be other priorities for awhile. Don’t feel bad for me, though. In the end, it was all worth it.

The hour doth approacheth: 2 a.m. Eastern time, 11 p.m. Pacific.

The end of the world will be at exactly 6 p.m. on May 21, 2011, says Camping, who along with his organization, Family Radio, are behind those billboards across the country forecasting the Rapture this Saturday. The Rapture, the Last Days, Armageddon and the Final Days of Judgment are all interchangeable. It’s when God will destroy the Earth to show his love for humanity.

Is that Eastern Standard or Pacific Standard Time?

Neither, says Camping, whom I interviewed recently for my online news show TYT Now. The Rapture is at 6 p.m. on May 21, 2011, where ever it’s 6 p.m. first, with the “fantastically big” world-ending event taking place on a time zone by time zone basis.

That means we can expect the Rapture to start when it hits 6 p.m. at the International Dateline at 180 Longitude — roughly the between Pago Pago, American Samoa, and Nuku’alofa, Tonga. We’ll know it’s Judgment Day because there will be an earthquake of previously unprecedented magnitude, Camping predicts.

So, according to these calculations, the Rapture will actually begin like a rolling brown out across the globe at 11 p.m. PST on Friday, May 20th.

I’m curious to see how Camping explains the not-so-grim reality of continued existence come Sunday. The Millerites were famously greatly disappointed, but there’s no shortage of models to emulate when it comes to coping with an apocalyptic fizzle. Presumably he’ll say that he “miscalculated” by adding numbers from the Old Testament plus the gospels plus Revelation but forgetting to carry the two or whatever, and that the real doomsday is actually scheduled for the distant, distant future. All well and good for him, but what about the poor saps who bought it hook, line, and sinker?

The three teenagers have been struggling to make sense of their shifting world, which started changing nearly two years ago when their mother, Abby Haddad Carson, left her job as a nurse to “sound the trumpet” on mission trips with her husband, Robert, handing out tracts. They stopped working on their house and saving for college…

“My mom has told me directly that I’m not going to get into heaven,” Grace Haddad, 16, said. “At first it was really upsetting, but it’s what she honestly believes.”…

While Ms. Haddad Carson has quit her job, her husband still works as an engineer for the federal Energy Department. But the children worry that there may not be enough money for college. They also have typical teenage angst — embarrassing parents — only amplified…

The children, however, have found something to giggle over. “She’ll say, ‘You need to clean up your room,’” Grace said. “And I’ll say, ‘Mom, it doesn’t matter, if the world’s going to end!’”

I’m tempted to say that the kids should be able to sue Camping for tuition if it turns out mom and dad emptied their bank account in anticipation of the Big Day, but once we start blaming third parties for poor parenting, we’re well on our way to banning Happy Meals. A better solution, I think, is charity. Coming soon, hopefully: The “Yeah, Our Parents Fell For It” Scholarship Fund.

I’ll leave you with this Live Science piece assessing the economic and scientific consequences of suddenly losing 200 million people to the Rapture. Before you ask, yes, of course they devote some space to climate change. Exit question: How many GOP candidates will be gone by tomorrow? Will Obama get to run unopposed? See, guys — this is why we need more atheists in politics.

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First I hear the Oblama is the messiah, and now this. I can’t take it anymore!

tbear44 on May 21, 2011 at 7:15 AM

Camping is a charlatan, i.e. a false prophet. People won’t be laughing though when the real harpazo occurs.

zoyclem on May 21, 2011 at 7:19 AM

Camping is a charlatan, i.e. a false prophet. People won’t be laughing though when the real harpazo occurs.

zoyclem on May 21, 2011 at 7:19

When that happens they gonna have to raise my azz from the dead.

tbear44 on May 21, 2011 at 7:31 AM

Camping is a charlatan, i.e. a false prophet. People won’t be laughing though when the real harpazo occurs.

zoyclem on May 21, 2011 at 7:19

This delusional belief continues I see. Nothing can kill it.

keep the change on May 21, 2011 at 7:43 AM

This delusional belief continues I see. Nothing can kill it.

keep the change on May 21, 2011 at 7:43 AM

Aw, pipe down with the meme building. Not a single Christian here believed this–not a one. The fact that it did not happen does NOT refute all of Christianity.

Grace_is_sufficient on May 21, 2011 at 8:01 AM

Good times and bum times, I’ve seen them all
And, my dear, I’m still here
Plush velvet sometimes
Sometimes just pretzels and beer, but I’m here

I’ve stuffed the dailies in my shoes
Strummed ukuleles, sung the blues
Seen all my dreams disappear but I’m here.
I’ve slept in shanties, guest of the W.P.A., but I’m here
Danced in my scanties
Three bucks a night was the pay, but I’m here

I’ve stood on bread lines with the best
Watched while the headlines did the rest
In the depression was I depressed?
Nowhere near, I met a big financier and I’m here

I’ve been through Gandhi, Windsor and Wally’s affair, and I’m here
Amos ‘n’ Andy, Mah-jongg and platinum hair, and I’m here
I got through Abie’s, Irish Rose, Five Dionne babies, Major Bowes
Had heebie-jeebies for Beebe’s, Bathysphere
I got through Shirley Temple, and I’m here

I’ve gotten through Herbert and J. Edgar Hoover
Gee, that was fun and a half
When you’ve been through Herbert and J. Edgar Hoover
Anything else is a laugh

I’ve been through Reno, I’ve been through Beverly Hills, and I’m here.
Reefers and vino, rest cures, religion and pills, and I’m here
Been called a ‘Pinko’, commie tool, got through it stinko by my pool
I should’ve gone to an acting school, that seems clear
Still someone said, “She’s sincere”, so I’m here

Black sable one day, next day it goes into hock, but I’m here
Top billing Monday, Tuesday, you’re touring in stock, but I’m here
First you’re another sloe-eyed vamp
Then someone’s mother, then you’re camp
Then you career from career to career
I’m almost through my memoirs, and I’m here

I’ve gotten through, “Hey, lady, aren’t you whoozis?
Wow, what a looker you were”
Or better yet, “Sorry, I thought you were whoozis
Whatever happened to her?”

Good times and bum times, I’ve seen ‘em all
And, my dear, I’m still here
Flush velvet sometimes
Sometimes just pretzels and beer, but I’m here

I’ve run the gamut, A to Z
Three cheers and dammit, C’est la vie
I got through all of last year, and I’m here
Lord knows, at least I was there, and I’m here
Look who’s here, I’m still here

rickyricardo on May 21, 2011 at 8:08 AM

Did I miss it?

Bee on May 21, 2011 at 8:09 AM

Aw, pipe down with the meme building. Not a single Christian here believed this–not a one. The fact that it did not happen does NOT refute all of Christianity.

Grace_is_sufficient on May 21, 2011 at 8:01 AM

Absolutely correct.

Bee on May 21, 2011 at 8:11 AM

This delusional belief continues I see. Nothing can kill it.

keep the change on May 21, 2011 at 7:43 AM

Oh…I think the delusions will pass, chum. Truth will prevail in the end.

zoyclem on May 21, 2011 at 8:25 AM

Just talked to a friend in Australia and she is still there. Is that a good thing?

tbear44 on May 21, 2011 at 4:14 AM

I don’t wanna lose our Crux Australis!!!/

ProudPalinFan on May 21, 2011 at 8:35 AM

This delusional belief continues I see. Nothing can kill it.

keep the change on May 21, 2011 at 7:43 AM

That Obama is our Saviour and he’s for Hope and Change? Yep I see the same thing; hope that yesterday’s smackdown did some damage.

Bibi’s FB page was swarmed with Thank You’s from all over the world. Does that mean anything? Now if Danon would’ve been on the meeting instead I bet the smackdown would’ve been worse.

That’s the gentleman that gave the private tour to the Palins.

ProudPalinFan on May 21, 2011 at 8:39 AM

With the week I just had, this rapture is starting to look appealing…Happy End of the World…

RedSoxNation on May 21, 2011 at 8:50 AM

What are the odds some of the HotAir commenters are believers in the Rapture…anyone????

RedSoxNation on May 21, 2011 at 8:52 AM

I’ll have something on the debt-ceiling fight at around the time the first huge quake is shattering the continental United States, and then, later, an item on Mitch Daniels’s health-care plan just as “the Beast” is first being spotted in the night sky.

Michelle Obama is doing a fly-over of NYC?

AZCoyote on May 21, 2011 at 9:03 AM

You’re working on Saturday? Other than the headlines and QOTD?

Cindy Munford on May 21, 2011 at 9:12 AM

On the bright side, I won’t have to mow the lawn today!

GarandFan on May 21, 2011 at 9:33 AM

Apparently Camping missed the part in the Bible where the Rapture will be in “a moment, in a twinkling of an eye” and when Jesus said that only God the Father knew when it was going to be. That is unless Camping is God the Father and I doubt that highly!

flytier on May 21, 2011 at 9:36 AM

At 5:50, I’m heading to a bakery.

TimBuk3 on May 21, 2011 at 9:47 AM

flytier on May 21, 2011 at 9:36 AM
He also missed (as do most) a the part about 144,000 virgin men from 12 Jewish tribes.

notalemon on May 21, 2011 at 9:49 AM

So how come you are all still here?Only got a second …..byeeeeeeeee

sandee on May 21, 2011 at 9:51 AM

Well, I’m still here. Either I’m in trouble or someone got the damn Rapture time wrong again…

catmman on May 21, 2011 at 9:54 AM

ummm………

maybe they meant the END of the day on the 21st…………

so we got about another 14 hours on the east coast…..time to BBQ and have a few last beers……..

se ya tomorrow or maybe on the other side. ;o)

RealMc on May 21, 2011 at 9:59 AM

way OT but anyone know if the Herman Cain announcement rally will be streamed online?

offroadaz on May 21, 2011 at 10:13 AM

offroadaz on May 21, 2011 at 10:13 AM

http://www.livestream.com/thehermancain

Looks like it will be carried there… ^^^
A must-watch, here, unless hubby changes our plans.

pambi on May 21, 2011 at 10:21 AM

Great, thanks!

offroadaz on May 21, 2011 at 10:21 AM

Bee on May 21, 2011 at 8:11 AM

It’s like Koresh… you take an incalculably small number of people who believe something and project the generic on the whole (i.e. Koresh was using the Bible, therefore all Bible interpretation is nutty and unreliable).

This time the group exacerbated the problem by buying billboards, etc.

There was no shortage of false prophets in Israel and no shortage of false Messiahs before the Lord came. This will always be true. Paul warns us of “false apostles” who preach “another Jesus” and “another gospel”. He warns that Satan’s ministers are “the ministers of righteousness.” That is, false apostles are found in pulpits wearing religious garb and not in heroin dens.

I don’t hold the The Rapture eschatology, but almost all Christians hold to a return of the Lord is some manner. To that end, I feel sorry for those who hold to the Rapture as this will soil their theology without cause (i.e. it’s not their fault Camping went date setting).

As I continue to write and teach and say, Bible study must be, in the end, intensely individual (as all search for truth must be in any field). That was the driving force behind my allegorical novel for kids. Whatever you believe you must make it your own.

So for those fellow Christians trusting in the merits of Christ alone who hold to the Rapture, I hope nobody dismisses you because of nuts like Camping. I don’t agree with that interpretation, but most of you hold forth the finality of the cross and the sufficiency of grace… and for that I am grateful.

mankai on May 21, 2011 at 10:36 AM

As I continue to write and teach and say, Bible study must be, in the end, intensely individual

Uh, that’s Camping’s problem. He was not bound by anything that went before him, or any authority over him, when he went on his speculative spree. People like you and him have no restraints on their imaginations and feel free to let whatever pops into their heads be the touchstone of Christian orthodoxy.

(as all search for truth must be in any field). mankai on May 21, 2011 at 10:36 AM

Christian theology is not just “any field.” But leaving that aside, your method would be to start at scratch in any field of endeavor as if there were no established truths, re-invent the wheel, and then if it suits you, proclaim it to be truth.

This is how cults get started.

Akzed on May 21, 2011 at 11:01 AM

**looks around**

Well..? is it over yet? anyone? Bueller/

ted c on May 21, 2011 at 11:11 AM

This is how cults get started.

Akzed on May 21, 2011 at 11:01 AM

Yeah, there would be no cults if everyone made his theology and search personal. Camping is an example of the dangers of handing one’s brain over to a “leader.” Camping would be sitting in his house alone looking for earthquakes if people took their responsibility to “seek” and find seriously.

I am in zero danger of ever being a cult because I don’t buy that anyone has any other special, secret powers that nobody else has.

The Popes and bishops claim exalted powers of understanding and need I quote the scores of horrific doctrines they have professed as absolute truth over the centuries?

“Study to show YOURSELF approved unto GOD.”

mankai on May 21, 2011 at 11:17 AM

Hey!!! Who knew? You can post comments from Heaven!

I’m having a great time, wish you were here!!!

Much better than advertised!!!!!

petunia on May 21, 2011 at 11:38 AM

If I’m not mistaken, Australia is still here….

George_Canada on May 21, 2011 at 11:40 AM

I do get why this kind of stuff makes people incredibly skeptical about all religion.

All I can say is, put your trust in God, not the arm of any man.

And to any who may feel betrayed by this… Camping is a man.

God did not sanction this.

Turn off the radio, and get on your knees for yourself.

petunia on May 21, 2011 at 11:41 AM

According to what I’ve read, The Rapture is supposed to start at 6:00pm EDT (yes, there were specific as to what time zone). At that moment, earthquakes will begin and will move towards the West, swallowing up the earth.

Allah, can we have an open thread for The Rapture? Pretty please?? ;)

Shiny_Tiara on May 21, 2011 at 11:52 AM

Anyone who wakes up on May 22nd should, if they are true believers, renounce their faith.

rickyricardo on May 20, 2011 at 9:58 PM

Why? I don’t get it. What is the basis in reason for this?

anuts on May 21, 2011 at 11:53 AM

Camping is a charlatan, i.e. a false prophet. People won’t be laughing though when the real harpazo occurs.

zoyclem on May 21, 2011 at 7:19 AM

I’ll do my laughing now since the stories given by all the variant delusions are farcical. Cultists should not attempt putting dates on their prognostications since their track record is pretty bad.

Annar on May 21, 2011 at 12:00 PM

anuts on May 21, 2011 at 11:53 AM

Don’t feed the troll. His statement is stupid and a logical fallacy.

The application here should be: if you were holding Camping to have some insight nobody else has, you should renounce him and his methodology (and even that doesn’t include the theology of the Rapture, Camping isn’t integral to it – I don’t hold to it, but Camping doesn’t have authority over it).

mankai on May 21, 2011 at 12:03 PM

way OT but anyone know if the Herman Cain announcement rally will be streamed online?

offroadaz on May 21, 2011 at 10:13 AM

Herman Cain will be making his official announcment live on CSPAN in about 30 min at NOON est.

Video here:

http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN/

commodore on May 21, 2011 at 11:35 AM

Elisa on May 21, 2011 at 12:10 PM

I’ll do my laughing now since the stories given by all the variant delusions are farcical. Cultists should not attempt putting dates on their prognostications since their track record is pretty bad.

Annar on May 21, 2011 at 12:00 PM

I think those who fell for this, are a step ahead of you.

You have closed off your heart, you are unwilling to trust at all.

When Christ does come, the people who put their faith in this event, will accept him, even if he is not what they expect, because they are willing to give their hearts and their pride in an attempt to know God.

There is no pursuit more noble than to seek a communion with the divine. I feel sorry for them and I pray they will keep looking.

So in my humble opinion, in the scoreboard of Eternity they get a point, and you do not because you fail to even try.

God looks on the heart, not the outward appearance. They made their hearts ready to receive. I think that must count for something.

petunia on May 21, 2011 at 12:14 PM

need I quote the scores of horrific doctrines they have professed as absolute truth over the centuries?
mankai on May 21, 2011 at 11:17 AM

Please do.

As I continue to write and teach and say, Bible study must be, in the end, intensely individual (as all search for truth must be in any field). That was the driving force behind my allegorical novel for kids. Whatever you believe you must make it your own.
mankai on May 21, 2011 at 10:36 AM

I’m going to have to disagree, as both Scripture and Tradition do.

Understanding this first, that no prophecy of scripture is made by private interpretation. ~2Peter1:20

As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are certain things hard to be understood, which the unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, to their own destruction. ~2Peter3:16

And Philip running thither, heard him reading the prophet Isaias. And he said: Thinkest thou that thou understandest what thou readest? 31 Who said: And how can I, unless some man shew me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him. ~Acts 8:30-31

And not for them only do I pray, but for them also who through their word shall believe in me; 21 That they all may be one, as thou, Father, in me, and I in thee; that they also may be one in us; that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. ~John 17: 20-21

Whosoever, therefore, comes and teaches you all these things that have been said before, receive him. But if the teacher himself turns and teaches another doctrine to the destruction of this, hear him not. ~The Didache (The Teaching of the Twelve Apostles. around 60 AD)

And seek out day by day the faces of the saints, in order that you may rest upon their words. ~The Didache

Indeed, I would not believe in the gospel myself if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so” (Against the Letter of Mani Called ‘The Foundation’ 5:6).~ Saint Augustine

While we all hold the individual responsibility for educating ourselves, it is through the Church that we get the guidance to know the Truth. If I study and come up with some false belief, even if I believe it firmly, it is still false. Jesus built His Church with an appointed shepherd whom he named Rock, aka Peter to ‘feed’ his ‘sheep’ when He was no longer on earth, and gave him the authority to loose and bind and to teach. Only that would insure the possibility of unity that Jesus desires, as we can see from the many varied personal interpretations of Sacred Scripture, and disunity that it has wrought in the thousands of individual sects. “Let them be one…that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.” No wonder there are so many unbelievers. :(

And more specific to the thread:

For in the last days false prophets and corrupters shall be multiplied, and the sheep shall be turned into wolves, and love shall be turned into hate; for when lawlessness increases, they shall hate and persecute and betray one another, and then shall appear the world-deceiver as Son of God, and shall do signs and wonders, and the earth shall be delivered into his hands, and he shall do iniquitous things which have never yet come to pass since the beginning. Then shall the creation of men come into the fire of trial, and many shall be made to stumble and shall perish; but those who endure in their faith shall be saved from under the curse itself. And then shall appear the signs of the truth: first, the sign of an outspreading in heaven, then the sign of the sound of the trumpet. And third, the resurrection of the dead — yet not of all, but as it is said: “The Lord shall come and all His saints with Him.” Then shall the world see the Lord coming upon the clouds of heaven. ~The Didache

Clearly, the apostles didn’t believe or expect a pre-trib rapture.

pannw on May 21, 2011 at 12:28 PM

Obooba better hope the Rapture’s tonight or he cold end up in the hoosegow.

I think Libya was a distraction from this.

Akzed on May 21, 2011 at 12:50 PM

I’m ready when the time comes. It just wasn’t today – so far.

gbear on May 21, 2011 at 12:53 PM

What angers me about this whole thing is how so many people are using this as an excuse to mock all Christians (*cough, cough, Allahpundit*). I swear my Facebook news feed this week was nothing but nasty, snarky comments about how stupid Christians are. It shows a side of my friends that I’ve always known was there, but was able to avoid until now. Yuck.

Glad I follow a belief system that promotes respect. Thank God.

Animator Girl on May 21, 2011 at 1:02 PM

We still have until 1800, right?
So what do you suppose Christ is doing up there right now?
If I were he, I’d be having a few beers.
And then show up half in the bag for the big moment.

“Hey everybody, it’s great to be back!”
“I just flew in from Heaven.
And boy are my arms tired.”

justltl on May 21, 2011 at 1:09 PM

pannw on May 21, 2011 at 12:28 PM

Why should I believe you when you hold to a belief that teaches you that you are incapable of understanding the Bible and that you must “submit will and INTELLECT” to a tiny group of men on all matters of faith and morals?

Understanding this first, that no prophecy of scripture is made by private interpretation. ~2Peter1:20

This only means that the prophets didn’t invent their own prophesies. had you not ignored the context, you’d have seen that. The next verse: “For prophecy never had its origin in the human will, but prophets, though human, spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.”

It has nothing to do with studying for oneself… as Paul commands in 2 Tim 2:25

Please do.

For starters… I guess you believe that RCism should be “the religion of the state to the exclusion of all other forms of worship” -Puis IX

“liberty of conscience is madness”… – Gregory XVI

“Since it is completely senseless and inappropriate to be in a situation where Christian piety allows the Jews (whose guilt – all of their own doing – has condemned them to eternal slavery) access to our society and even to live among us…”

Furthermore, in each and every state, territory and domain in which they are living, they will have only one synagogue, in its customary location, and they will construct no other new ones, nor can they own buildings. Furthermore, all of their synagogues, besides the one allowed, are to be destroyed and demolished. And the properties, which they currently own, they must sell to Christians within a period of time to be determined by the magistrates themselves.”

“Moreover, concerning the matter that Jews should be recognizable everywhere: [to this end] men must wear a hat, women, indeed, some other evident sign, yellow in color, that must not be concealed or covered by any means, and must be tightly affixed [sewn]; and furthermore, they can not be absolved or excused from the obligation to wear the hat or other emblem of this type to any extent whatever and under any pretext whatsoever of their rank or prominence or of their ability to tolerate [this] adversity, either by a chamberlain of the Church, clerics of an apostolic court, or their superiors, or by legates of the Holy See or their immediate subordinates.”

“And they [Jews] may not presume in any way to play, eat or fraternize with Christians.”

Only Catholics can worship God.
Gregory XVI

If anyone prays with heretics, he is a heretic.
-St. Agatho I

Only Catholics can be Christians.
-Pius VI

Heretics are sons of the Devil.
-Clement I

If anyone does not condemn heretics, let him be anathema.
-Vigilius

It [the Church] firmly believes, professes, and proclaims that those not living within the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics cannot become participants in eternal life, but will depart ‘into everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels’ [Matt. 25:41], unless before the end of life the same have been added to the flock. – Eugene IV

“We hear that you forbid torture as contrary to the laws of your land. But no state law can override canon law, our law. Therefore I command you at once to submit those men to torture. – Pope Clement V’s rebuke of King Edward II

It is heresy to say: salvation is open to Muslims.
-Gregory XVI

But the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator. In the first place amongst these there are the Mohamedans, who, professing to hold the faith of Abraham, along with us adore the one and merciful God, who on the last day will judge mankind. Vat 2 and CCC

etc…

mankai on May 21, 2011 at 1:11 PM

I was left behind. So was everyone else around me. Looks like we were all bad. Thank heaven for second chances.

unclesmrgol on May 21, 2011 at 1:12 PM

This “end of the world” will never happen because the Earth has not gotten the proper permits from the EPA

J_Crater on May 21, 2011 at 1:13 PM

What are the odds some of the HotAir commenters are believers in the Rapture…anyone????

RedSoxNation on May 21, 2011 at 8:52 AM

Most evangelicals, including myself, believe in the Rapture.

However, most of us also believe Camping is a total whackjob, and laughed at his pathetic 05/21/11 “prediction”.

Norwegian on May 21, 2011 at 1:16 PM

When Christ does come, the people who put their faith in this event, will accept him, even if he is not what they expect, because they are willing to give their hearts and their pride in an attempt to know God.

There is no pursuit more noble than to seek a communion with the divine. I feel sorry for them and I pray they will keep looking.

So in my humble opinion, in the scoreboard of Eternity they get a point, and you do not because you fail to even try.

God looks on the heart, not the outward appearance. They made their hearts ready to receive. I think that must count for something.

petunia on May 21, 2011 at 12:14 PM

What you say requires religious faith which, in my opinion, is nothing more than the suspension of critical thinking in matters of ultimate concern. The priest, minister, mullah or other ‘holy’ sorts do not know in any real sense that what they preach is true. Had the Pope been born in Saudi Arabia he’d be a good Wahabbi muslim and, without a doubt, the same would be true for you. You would be waiting for the prophet Christ to come back in the end times with the Mahdi to stamp out the last of the infidels.

Annar on May 21, 2011 at 1:24 PM

Acts 17:11 “The Breans were more noble than the thessalonicans for they searched the scriptures daily whether these things [Paul's preaching] were so.”

Idiots, they should have just trusted that Paul was authoritative on his own!

/sarc

;)

mankai on May 21, 2011 at 1:25 PM

Understanding this first, that no prophecy of scripture is made by private interpretation. ~2Peter1:20

This only means that the prophets didn’t invent their own prophesies. had you not ignored the context, you’d have seen that. The next verse: “For prophecy never had its origin in the human will, but prophets, though human, spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.”

Your following words only serve to emphasize the first few words. When you attempt on your own to interpret the words of God, you become your own prophet, and you construct your own God.

Sometimes the words mean exactly what they appear to mean, and in this case, they concern the private interpretation of scripture. For another case, see Acts 8:30-31, which is yet another caution against private interpretation:

Then Philip ran up to the chariot and heard the man reading Isaiah the prophet. “Do you understand what you are reading?” Philip asked.

“How can I,” he said, “unless someone explains it to me?” So he invited Philip to come up and sit with him.

You man fancy yourself better than the man, but are you?

As for the rest of your stuff, there is this:

“I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven”

The power to bind is there, but the Church no longer uses it — it uses only the power to loose.

As for your feeling about Catholics, I have already shaken the dust of your words from my sandals.

unclesmrgol on May 21, 2011 at 1:26 PM

So there are still people, even on Hotair, who still believe in this rapture stuff. They still believe that people will get sucked up into the sky while everyone else grinds their teeth.

The only thing that separates these _____ from Camping’s ______ is that Camping put a date on it. But the psychology is the same, as is the perverted values system that has no problem believing in such grandiose, self-serving fantasies.

keep the change on May 21, 2011 at 1:35 PM

Anyone who wakes up on May 22nd should, if they are true believers, renounce their faith.
rickyricardo on May 20, 2011 at 9:58 PM

Anyone who woke up the on the day after the Piltdown Man was revealed as a hoax should have, if they were true believers of evolution, renounced their faith in evolutionary science.

spaninq on May 21, 2011 at 1:38 PM

“Hey, great crowd here tonight.” “Anyone from Cleveland?” “Over there, folks, let’s given ‘em a hand.”

“Hey, so, a Jewish couple has a son who is a holy terror. When he gets to be of age, he’s kicked out of every school they put him in. Finally desperate, the father goes to the Rabbi for advice and the Rabbi says put him in the Catholic school. Shocked, the father asks if the Rabbi sure. “Yes” is the reply, so the father takes him to the nuns and leaves.

An hour goes by, then two hours, lunch time and finally at three the son comes in says “Good afternoon Papa, good afternoon Mama,” goes to the table and starts on his homework. The father is amazed and finally ask why he stayed in school all day and why he is behaving so well. His son looks up and says “Papa when you left, the Mother Superior told me that they did not allow rowdy boys, then she took me to my room. Papa they mean business! They’ve got a Jew nailed on a Cross in every room!”

justltl on May 21, 2011 at 1:44 PM

“So a rabbi, a priest and a minister are standing in front of my old man on Judgement Day. He turns to Me and says, “What is this, some kind of joke?”

justltl on May 21, 2011 at 2:21 PM

justltl on May 21, 2011 at 1:44 PM

The old jokes are the best.

A priest, a minister and a rabbi want to see who’s the best at their work. They decide that each shall go into the woods, find a bear, and attempt to convert it.

Later they get together. The priest begins: “I found a bear up in a tree, and I said a Mass for him and sprinkled him with holy water to baptize him. Next week he will have his First Holy Communion.”

“I found a bear fishing by the stream,” says the minister, “and preached the Word of the Lord. The bear was so desirous of being saved that he told me to baptize him. He will be entering the seminary next week.”

They both look down at the rabbi, who is lying on a gurney in a body cast. “Looking back,” he says, “maybe I shouldn’t have started on my bear David with the bris.”

unclesmrgol on May 21, 2011 at 2:32 PM

“Amateur.”
 
- Anthropogenic global warming alarmists

rogerb on May 21, 2011 at 3:10 PM

It shows a side of my friends that I’ve always known was there, but was able to avoid until now.

Hint, they aren’t really your friends. Just saying.

PakviRoti on May 21, 2011 at 4:03 PM

If this Rapture doesn’t get started soon, my rental Ferrari demolition derby last night wasn’t as fun as I thought.

rjl1999 on May 21, 2011 at 4:42 PM

And then shall appear the signs of the truth: first, the sign of an outspreading in heaven, then the sign of the sound of the trumpet. And third, the resurrection of the dead — yet not of all, but as it is said: “The Lord shall come and all His saints with Him.” Then shall the world see the Lord coming upon the clouds of heaven. ~The Didache

Clearly, the apostles didn’t believe or expect a pre-trib rapture.

pannw on May 21, 2011 at 12:28 PM

Whenever I think of a pre or post Tribulation and Rapture, I think of my deceased mom, coming back…that’d be a sight to see; to hear her, touch her, anything!!!

This has been quite a week we can all agree, but I am quite happy; dunno when or where, but I have a good idea of how it’s gonna happen. My sis called me and I told her about (Kini’s) joke of spreading clothes on the street as if raptured-see if my nephew does that-she joked that his bedroom is raptured all the time, since he leaves clothes everywhere.

“Precisely I was heading in that direction”. Mr. PPF can’t get enough of it too, re: 6:00 PM. I asked him what would he do or think if the three of us were gone and he’s left behind: 1-That’d be kinda difficult to explain to an attorney, 2-Snoopy dance j/k

ProudPalinFan on May 21, 2011 at 4:51 PM

The only thing that separates these _____ from Camping’s ______ is that Camping put a date on it. But the psychology is the same, as is the perverted values system that has no problem believing in such grandiose, self-serving fantasies.

keep the change on May 21, 2011 at 1:35 PM

At least with such a value system, a well defined set of good behavior gets rewarded and well defined set of evil behavior gets punished. It’s a value system we could wish upon our own society. If you don’t agree with it, well, you can write your letter in support of Goodwin Liu over on another post.

As for the time and date, the incentive is always to live as if the time and date were minutes hence.

unclesmrgol on May 21, 2011 at 4:54 PM

Well, if the world is going to end we should strive to look our best.

;-)

Yakko77 on May 20, 2011 at 7:08 PM

I’ll have the kids watch Animaniacs…got a whole season here. My two favorites: “Survey Ladies” and “Chairman Of The Bored” (voiceover by Ben Stein)

ProudPalinFan on May 21, 2011 at 4:57 PM

Check out Drudge: “World Ends–Film at 11:00″ Hilarious!

ProudPalinFan on May 21, 2011 at 4:58 PM

Hmmm… still alive. I guess someone needs to explain themselves to the masses!

upinak on May 21, 2011 at 4:58 PM

Maybe, it already happened but nobody made the first cut.

Fallon on May 21, 2011 at 5:49 PM

There was a prediction, & a few people believed it, yet with the media frenzy you’d think there were millions of people duped. But when millions of people ARE duped by false predictions, the media refuse to cover those events.
‎1) The Obama Administration said that unless they got their gigantic “stimulus” bill, the unemployment rate might go over 8%, but if they got it, the unemployment rate would go down. They got it, & unemployment has been way above 8% ever since.
2) Just as all of the doomsday predictions of the 70s (overpopulation demise of hundreds of millions of people, ice age) have failed, so have the modern mainstream science prophets who have been predicting doom for “Mother Earth” because of global warming: temps have been stable for a decade.

itsnotaboutme on May 21, 2011 at 6:49 PM

So there are still people, even on Hotair, who still believe in this rapture stuff. They still believe that people will get sucked up into the sky while everyone else grinds their teeth.

The only thing that separates these _____ from Camping’s ______ is that Camping put a date on it. But the psychology is the same, as is the perverted values system that has no problem believing in such grandiose, self-serving fantasies.

keep the change on May 21, 2011 at 1:35 PM

I don’t really have a dog in this fight since I’m agnostic, but I have been amazed my whole adult life at how many if not most atheists are self-righteous, condescending jerks.

stvnscott on May 21, 2011 at 7:03 PM

10-9-9-7-6-5-4-3-2-1-0 Time to start a new religious group.

MaiDee on May 21, 2011 at 7:27 PM

I’m glad the world didn’t end-otherwise I would be getting a first paycheck from Wally World. That would totally suck.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 21, 2011 at 7:40 PM

mankai on May 21, 2011 at 1:11 PM

:) You claim I have taken scripture out of context and yet you seem to ignore huge portions all together. You do not address the others, but instead, accuse me of being a mindless lemming, when really, I have investigated and continue to seek the truth, only to learn, like so many converts/reverts to Catholicism, (Marcus Grodi, Scott Hahn, Fr. Longenecker, Francis Beckwith, David Currie, Thomas Howard, Stephen K. Ray, and on…) that the more I learn of scripture (which admittedly I’ve only just started doing in the past few years), the more it proves the Church. Things like “This is my body…” and the response that “this is a hard saying; who can hear it?” Jesus meant what He said, just as He did when He said “Thou art Peter…” I am grateful to a couple of those converts for their books and the Catholic Scripture Study that Dr. Hahn has produced. I have learned much, but know I have so much more to learn.

Further, I do not claim to have studied every word every pope has ever spoken or written, so since you did not include particular encyclicals etc. that these things come from, I don’t know in what context they were presented, ie as ex cathedra, etc… I do know that I have never heard or been taught to believe most of this as ‘doctrine’, and in any case, unclesmrgol makes a good point on the whole loosing and binding, though I think the Church still uses her binding power in new circumstances such as ESCR. Also, the fact that a man such as Pope Paul VI, (liberal and weak though he was in matters of the Liturgy, with his associations-Rembert Weakland…) promulgated the prophetic encyclical Humanae Vitae, further proves to me Christ’s promise that He will be with the Church always and the gates of hell will not prevail, as if I needed more proof than Jesus’ own words.

Regardless, I’m not going to argue that there have not been members of the church, including popes who have done and said unkind, even wicked things. Denying that would be dishonest and foolish, as we all know history is full of them. Peter, himself denied Christ, three times! And yet Jesus still gave him the specific instruction to, “Feed my sheep.” And He told Peter three times! One of Jesus’ own apostles, Judas, betrayed him! So, if anyone is looking for perfection in all of the members of the church, even in her popes, they are ignoring the lessons from Jesus while He was on earth to teach them. Catholics don’t ignore this. We know they are not perfect. We also know there is a difference between actual Church doctrine/infallible teaching/ex cathedra, and prudential judgment pronouncements made by bishops and popes. Torture, whether a King was instructed to use it by a pope or not, is not a doctrine of the Church. Just as in 100 years, someone might be arguing that pro-Iraq war Catholics were heretics because the Church was against the War in Iraq since Pope John Paul II said it was wrong. While he cautioned against it, and felt personally that it was the wrong thing to do, it was not an ex cathedra directive that was binding on all Catholics, or like Pope Benedict’s caution on Harry Potter (not condemnation). These are matters of prudential judgment, that while we can not completely disregard the pope’s views, we can take them and use our informed conscience to come to a different opinion. On the other hand, the Holy Trinity, the Real Presence, Immaculate Conception, intrinsic evil of abortion, etc…are doctrines binding on all Catholics. I embrace them fully.

There are a number of good books and sites that explain the Church and why she is the biblical Church founded by Christ, but you seem to be more interested in searching out gotcha moments from history to attack the Church, than openly searching for the truth and seeking the unity that Jesus desires. Pity… Peace to you anyway.

justltl on May 21, 2011 at 1:44 PM

hahahah…that is one of my favorites!

unclesmrgol on May 21, 2011 at 2:32 PM

Oooooo…yikes…

itsnotaboutme on May 21, 2011 at 6:49 PM

Amen!

pannw on May 21, 2011 at 8:08 PM

The rapture is mentioned a number of times in the Bible but Jesus was very clear that no one would know the day or the hour. Good call because life would grind to a complete stop if we knew for certain the time of his return. This passage is from the fourth chapter of First Thessalonians.

But we do not want you to be uninformed, brethren, about those who are asleep, so that you will not grieve as do the rest who have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who have fallen asleep in Jesus. For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord. Therefore comfort one another with these words.

So the rapture itself is scriptural but the only question is when it will occur. The world “ends” when you die so that’s the one event we all need to be concerned about.

Mojave Mark on May 22, 2011 at 10:33 AM

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pambi on May 22, 2011 at 2:44 PM

See, guys — this is why we need more atheists in politics.

Like Hitler, Stalin, Mao…? Body count not high enough for you, Allah, or just not real up on statistics?

See guys – this is why we need more intelligent “conservatives”.

DrRansom on May 23, 2011 at 3:18 PM

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