Ron Paul: The US will end up occupying Pakistan

posted at 3:22 pm on May 18, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

Via the Daily Caller, consider this a palate cleanser for the afternoon.  Ron Paul appeared on Morning Joe this morning and tangled a bit with Mike Barnicle on the MSNBC show over the Obama administration’s handling of Pakistan.  If you think the moment of highest irony comes at the one-minute mark when the Congressman who plays footsie with Truthers like Alex Jones talks dismissively of “conspiracy theorists,” stay tuned.  That’s just the irony warm-up:

“I see the whole thing as a mess,” he said. “And I think that we are going to be in Pakistan. I think that’s the next occupation, and I fear it. I think it’s ridiculous, and I think our foreign policy is such we don’t need to be doing this. So when I talk about doing it differently, I talk about in the context of our foreign policy and not in the fact of whether or not we should have gotten him. As a matter of fact, I voted for the first authority. I think what’s the real tragedy is that we didn’t get him 10 years ago when we could have and should have. But yet we now have spent $1 trillion. We’ve lost 5,000 people, our soldiers, in fighting two wars that had nothing to do with bin Laden. And to me, we have to reassess the foreign policy just like we have to reassess our economic policies here.”

Later in the segment, “Morning Joe” co-host Willie Geist asked if Paul had any information an actual invasion was in the work. Paul said he didn’t but based it on the past four decades of American foreign policy.

“No – just because I look at what has happened in the past 30 or 40 years of all the unintended consequences and what we have done and how we are spreading and how we are spreading in the attitudes that has been pervasive in our government for the past 10 years that we have this obligation to spread our goodness and protect our financial interests,” Paul said. “And right now Pakistan is a big problem. And the people there, we have created a civil war there. And the fact that we go over there and we violate their security and the people rebel against the government because they see their government as being a puppet of the American government, so it’s total chaos, and I am afraid — I hope I’m absolutely wrong — but I’m afraid we will be in Pakistan trying to occupy that country, and it will probably be very unsuccessful.”

Nor is this the only conspiracy theory that Paul spins in this segment. Two minutes after dismissing conspiracy theorists, Paul states that he doesn’t believe the account from the White House on when Osama bin Laden was killed, when they got the DNA, and asks if anyone at MSNBC has any information on it. “But — that’s a conspiracy theory!” the panel says, sounding shocked, shocked! that Paul might float such a notion. Don’t stop there, though, because Paul then explains the factual basis of his prediction that the US will occupy a nation of over 140 million people, armed with nuclear weapons.

And to think that some people don’t take his presidential bid seriously …


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I hear Ben finally found his navel.

viking01 on March 15, 2013 at 8:47 AM

…with Slow Joe Biden’s help, of course.

viking01 on March 15, 2013 at 8:48 AM

Welcome to the Celebrity States of America.

Surely if Rome or Greece had technology this is what it would have been like near the end.

PappyD61 on March 15, 2013 at 8:49 AM

So Ben is a fake Democrat then,who knew.

docflash on March 15, 2013 at 8:52 AM

ARGO EFF YOURSELF!

ToddPA on March 15, 2013 at 8:56 AM

Someone claiming that a Hollywood film produced by a well know Hollywood liberal is somehow a subliminal CIA operation is hilarious, and insane.

The reality is that a great deal of what Hollywood cranks out is not-so-subliminal not-so-subtle leftist, liberal, and Dem propaganda.

One of the most obvious examples… In how many Hollywood films produced in the last decade did the bad guy running a shadowy right-wing extralegal conspiracy within the US government — note there is never, ever a shadowy left-wing extralegal conspiracy within the US government — feature an actor who was made to look a lot like Dick Cheney?

farsighted on March 15, 2013 at 9:00 AM

In an interview on Barrett’s radio show, Honegger said the point of Argo was to stoke Americans’ fear of Iran, and, by swaying public opinion, lay the groundwork for a military campaign there.

So by that theory, the Japanese should have been very afraid after the release of Pearl Harbor. Fortunately for them virtually nobody saw it.

Happy Nomad on March 15, 2013 at 9:01 AM

Kevin Barrett is a real nut. He’s always accusing people of everything and filing false complaints with the police and courts.

Blake on March 15, 2013 at 9:03 AM

Out of curiosity, is making a film that is a covert operation illegal? Is trying “to stoke Americans’ fear of Iran, and, by swaying public opinion, lay the groundwork for a military campaign there” actually a crime? I think it would be great if some pighumping muslim wants to start offing liberal actors because of these claims.

Flange on March 15, 2013 at 9:10 AM

Writing for Iranian state news agency PressTV on Wednesday, Kevin Barrett

Annnnnnnd I stopped reading his quote right there….

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on March 15, 2013 at 9:13 AM

You built this, Hollywood.

Own it.

MNHawk on March 15, 2013 at 9:13 AM

Art imitating the CIA.

Kool Aid is a heck of a drug.

locomotivebreath1901 on March 15, 2013 at 9:13 AM

Ben Affleck … secret agent?

“John Fn Kerry …… secret agent!”

is more believable. If you have to make stuff up, be more convincing.

Sir Napsalot on March 15, 2013 at 9:15 AM

Kevin Barrett, making Alex Jones look sane and rational.

rbj on March 15, 2013 at 9:18 AM

And don’t forget in Bounce, Ben exchanges plane tickets to steal his ex-girlfriend away from “the enemy”. And Ben must have sabotaged the plane don’t cha know.

Rovin on March 15, 2013 at 9:19 AM

Both of these guys are prominent 9/11 truther nuts. Barrett it’s a raging anti-semite.

JamesB on March 15, 2013 at 9:23 AM

Writing for Iranian state news agency PressTV on Wednesday…

In other words, Kevin Barrett is a media prostitute who will write anything for a buck. Reminds me of how CNN people stayed in Baghdad that time to get “the opposing view” or something, practically being a propaganda arm for Saddam.

Liam on March 15, 2013 at 9:30 AM

Liam on March 15, 2013 at 9:30 AM

Peter Arnett could not be reached for a comment.

Rovin on March 15, 2013 at 9:39 AM

George Clooney… ER doctor?

Wheel a fully ventilated and leaking from every porthole crack dealer in front of him then see how quickly he runs about and gasps “Miss Scarlett! Miss Scarlett!”

viking01 on March 15, 2013 at 9:48 AM

Affleck’s involvement in the film Pearl Harbor, arguing that he wanted to prepare America to fight a war in the Middle East, a film which has … no connections to the Middle East at all.

No connection to the ME and none to reality either. One line that stood out to me in that movie was when Affleck and Hartnett are flying in their P-40s. Affleck radios Hartnett and tells him “This is real time!” A phrase that would have had no meaning in the 1940s. About the only thing worth watching in that movie is Kate Beckinsale walking across the tarmac in a red dress. Well that and when Cuba Gooding Jr. strafes the hell out of that other U.S. ship when the Japanese plane flew between them.

Oldnuke on March 15, 2013 at 10:02 AM

Surely they must have strong opinions on Showtime’s “Homeland”.

It sounds like she needs to take lithium with a turkey baster.

tru2tx on March 15, 2013 at 10:05 AM

Guns of the Patriots….Liquid….Lah-Leh-Luh-Leh-Loh….Metal Gear….

DethMetalCookieMonst on March 15, 2013 at 10:14 AM

Did he ever get out of grade school?

ultracon on March 15, 2013 at 10:35 AM

Daredevil was a great movie.

mythicknight on March 15, 2013 at 10:45 AM

Wow, Ben Affleck, first he ponders a run for the Senate and then he changes his mind and settles for a covert agent position at the CIA.

What an awesome life he lives.

NapaConservative on March 15, 2013 at 11:09 AM

Don’t know if this is true. Don’t really care. To be in denial of the possibility of truth would be to believe that John Wayne and Humphrey Bogart were not fighting the “Japs” and the “Nazi’s” in the 1930′s before we entered WWII.

jpcpt03 on March 15, 2013 at 11:09 AM

Writing for Iranian state news agency PressTV on Wednesday, Kevin Barrett

Annnnnnnd I stopped reading his quote right there….

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on March 15, 2013 at 9:13 AM

Oh, darn! You got there first.

Actually, I was thinking I would stop at “PressTV.” But good one!! Heh.

Trochilus on March 15, 2013 at 11:19 AM

…a lot of people use drugs…huh?

KOOLAID2 on March 15, 2013 at 11:39 AM

If Ben is Boris then who is Natasha?

Limerick on March 15, 2013 at 11:52 AM

I would think “Gigli” was the bomb that the US planned to smuggle through the US Embassy into the Iranian parliament. :-D

ScoopPC11 on March 15, 2013 at 4:15 PM

I watched the Town just two days ago. It was written and directed by Ben Affleck. He tried to make a bank robbing, women using cop killer into a guy you were supposed to route for in the end. I wanted to punch Ben in the face after watching that movie.

Ben and Matt are really to scary guys wrapped up in pretty packages.

KMav on March 15, 2013 at 5:16 PM

Gigli – Er … um … hey, there’s just no explanation for this one.

A couple of uses:

1. Need a deserted location for a face-to-face meeting with a contact? A theater just “happens” to be playing Gigli.
2. Need a foolproof way to smuggle information? Burn it to a Gigli DVD.

malclave on March 15, 2013 at 7:16 PM