Hot Air Candidate Approval Results: May Edition

posted at 4:38 pm on May 16, 2011 by Patrick Ishmael

Looks like I wasn’t the only one who had a busy weekend. Huck’s out? Trump’s out? Next month’s full-sized survey should be very, very interesting, and that’s assuming no other candidates leave the field.

Keep in mind this was a Friday vote, so the volume’s a good deal lower than usual. That said, the results:

For the most part the candidates’ approval levels have remained fairly stable when compared to last month.

Different story on the overall vote front, though. The biggest pop in support? Herman Cain, whose support had remained mostly unchanged at Hot Air over the last few months.

Questions? Comments? I haven’t laid out all the data here since, amazingly, some of it’s already out-dated, so if you’re interested in a cross-tab,  tweet me.

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What they don’t get is abdicating ones elected position when the going gets tough and then expecting you to vote them into another elected position that is immensely tougher.

That is easily communicated in a 15 second ad. Fair or unfair, that is what the reps, dems, and MSM will do the second she announces.

csdeven on May 16, 2011 at 6:41 PM

csdeven on May 16, 2011 at 6:35 PM

You again, like certain others, infer that Palin would quit the Presidency if the going got tough. That inference completely disregards the circumstances – that you acknowledge knowing – in Alaska during her term and what the circumstances would be as POTUS.

Gohawgs on May 16, 2011 at 6:45 PM

CS is being pedantic. He says he acknowledges the circumstances, but according to the money quote, she quit because the going got tough when the reality is to stay on would be financial suicide for herself and the State to have a governor MIA due to constant court fights over

personal

lawsuits. It became personal for SP due to Alaska’s own laws which unlike most other States shields their governors from such frivolous suits.

AH_C on May 16, 2011 at 8:29 PM

1) Cain’s national recognition: nearly nonexistent
2) Cain record in elections: 0 – 1
3) Cain’s image: angry (sells well with very angry anti-Obama voters–a small minority–but the American public will not elect an angry person)

itsnotaboutme on May 16, 2011 at 8:30 PM

This won’t convince you, csdeven. Though I suspect it just might make some sense to any lurkers here who are more fair-minded than you.

Aitch748 on May 16, 2011 at 8:22 PM

You are making my point. Did you read that laundry list of explanations you needed to use to convince lurkers? How is Palin going to relate that list in an ad, during a debate, etc? I could spend the next hour asking you to answer each and every question that comes to mind for each of those points. And once you start, I can keep you explaining them until you get tired and do whatever so you do not have to explain any longer. If it isn’t bad enough that those convoluted answers re simply boring, they look suspicious. A “where there is smoke, there is fire” type of attitude.

These are real tactics in down and dirty national politics and the demrats, MSM, and any rep candidates will use them to full advantage.

csdeven on May 16, 2011 at 8:34 PM

Quitting an appointed job verses abdication of an elected position are two entirely different animals. People get that. What they don’t get is abdicating ones elected position when the going gets tough and then expecting you to vote them into another elected position that is immensely tougher.

That is easily communicated in a 15 second ad. Fair or unfair, that is what the reps, dems, and MSM will do the second she announces.

csdeven on May 16, 2011 at 6:41 PM

5-second response: How is resigning from the job of governor different from resigning from the job of Senator? Such as Bob Dole, or a certain first-term junior Senator from Illinois who spent all his time on the campaign trail?

If it didn’t hurt Obama, it’s obviously not the killer issue you think it is.

tom on May 16, 2011 at 8:34 PM

AH_C on May 16, 2011 at 8:29 PM

I know…Yet we’re the ones thread jacking…

Reminds me of PrezHussein…

Gohawgs on May 16, 2011 at 8:36 PM

AH_C on May 16, 2011 at 8:29 PM

And the demrat response will be….”I don’t think the country wants a president that, when he/she knows he/she is not guilty, they cut and run rather than stand and fight for what is right.”.

And the first time Palin references a founding father, the demrat response will be…”I have studied the forefathers and 56 of faced death by hanging for standing for what is right. You ma’am, are no example of the founding fathers”. Or something to that effect.

csdeven on May 16, 2011 at 8:45 PM

5-second response: How is resigning from the job of governor different from resigning from the job of Senator? Such as Bob Dole, or a certain first-term junior Senator from Illinois who spent all his time on the campaign trail?

If it didn’t hurt Obama, it’s obviously not the killer issue you think it is.

tom on May 16, 2011 at 8:34 PM

“I quit to answer a greater call from the country.” “Sarah abdicated to save herself money.”

csdeven on May 16, 2011 at 8:47 PM

I know…Yet we’re the ones thread jacking…

Reminds me of PrezHussein…

Gohawgs on May 16, 2011 at 8:36 PM

Sarah is a perfectly legitimate topic in this thread.

My comments are about Sarah and yours are about me. I am not in the poll, Sarah is.

csdeven on May 16, 2011 at 8:49 PM

My comments are about Sarah and yours are about me. I am not in the poll, Sarah is.

csdeven on May 16, 2011 at 8:49 PM

You flatter yourself…

Gohawgs on May 16, 2011 at 8:58 PM

You are making my point. Did you read that laundry list of explanations you needed to use to convince lurkers? How is Palin going to relate that list in an ad, during a debate, etc? I could spend the next hour asking you to answer each and every question that comes to mind for each of those points. And once you start, I can keep you explaining them until you get tired and do whatever so you do not have to explain any longer. If it isn’t bad enough that those convoluted answers re simply boring, they look suspicious. A “where there is smoke, there is fire” type of attitude.

These are real tactics in down and dirty national politics and the demrats, MSM, and any rep candidates will use them to full advantage.

csdeven on May 16, 2011 at 8:34 PM

In other words, explanations are in and of themselves suspicious. Plus, they don’t fit on a bumper sticker. But “Palin is a pansy who runs at the first whiff of danger” DOES fit on a bumper sticker, so that idea wins.

Plus, you’ve just admitted that you don’t actually care about explanations at all. You’d just keep asking questions until we got tired and walk away, and then snicker that you’d just wasted our time trying to explain something to you.

By the way, if these are just tactics we should expect from the Dems, the MSM, and from other Republicans, then these tactics would be used against anybody, not just Palin. ALL of the potential candidates have weaknesses that probably can’t be explained away with a bumper-sticker slogan, so why are you going on and on and on and on about this ONE candidate and this ONE circumstance in her political life? How do you explain away Cain’s statement that he’d never accept the judicial nomination of a Muslim? Will the Dems, the MSM, and the other Republicans hold their fire here? How about Daniels appointing a judge who ruled very recently that if a police officer wants to enter your house without a warrant, for any reason whatsoever, lawful or not, you MUST stand aside and let him enter? Who would be left? Who is out there that can be the GOP nominee who has NOTHING in his past or in his life or in his career that requires an explanation longer than a bumper-sticker slogan?

By the way, what is the fifteen-second-slogan explanation for Obama’s fecklessness during the Deepwater Horizon oil spill? What is the slogan that explains his refusal to allow drilling for oil in America, when he promotes drilling for oil in Brazil? What is the slogan that explains his utter contempt for Americans upset about our broken immigration system? Or is Palin’s resignation the only thing in politics that requires an explanation that is especially short?

Frankly, if people in this country are so stupid that they cannot grasp anything that takes longer than fifteen seconds to explain, then they shouldn’t be voting at all.

Aitch748 on May 16, 2011 at 9:08 PM

“I quit to answer a greater call from the country.” “Sarah abdicated to save herself money.”

csdeven on May 16, 2011 at 8:47 PM

“I quit to answer a greater call from the country.” This is the sort of slogan you want Palin to provide as an explanation for her resignation? Get out of here, that’s pukeworthy coming from anybody.

Aitch748 on May 16, 2011 at 9:12 PM

My comments are about Sarah and yours are about me. I am not in the poll, Sarah is.

csdeven on May 16, 2011 at 8:49 PM

Your comments aren’t about Sarah Palin. Your comments are about how you believe the voters will react to attacks from her. So in a very real sense, you are missing the mark by the same country mile that you claim the rest of us are.

gryphon202 on May 16, 2011 at 9:13 PM

Frankly, if people in this country are so stupid that they cannot grasp anything that takes longer than fifteen seconds to explain, …….

Aitch748 on May 16, 2011 at 9:08 PM

A certain group is. And they voted in an obvious Marxist in 2008 because he was _____________. (Enter reason here)

csdeven on May 16, 2011 at 9:13 PM

Aitch748 on May 16, 2011 at 9:12 PM

You need to calm down. You didn’t ask that question and clearly didn’t understand the answer. The entire quote is what Obama will say as a response to Tom’s scenario. He asked me to counter his question with a 5 second response. I did.

csdeven on May 16, 2011 at 9:16 PM

And the first time Palin references a founding father, the demrat response will be…”I have studied the forefathers and 56 of faced death by hanging for standing for what is right. You ma’am, are no example of the founding fathers”. Or something to that effect.

csdeven on May 16, 2011 at 8:45 PM

I get it now. You’re an oppo-researcher collecting TPs for Obambi masquerading as a concern troll. Well’ll keep pounding, cuz your supreme leader’s going down no matter which conservative gets the nod.

You can report to your Massa President-Hussein-I-killed-Osama that a RINO in the general is his only hope of a 2nd term.

AH_C on May 16, 2011 at 9:17 PM

Your comments are about how you believe the voters will react to attacks from her. So in a very real sense, you are missing the mark by the same country mile that you claim the rest of us are.

gryphon202 on May 16, 2011 at 9:13 PM

Yes. How certain voters will react to Sarah. Sarah IS in the poll. As a matter of fact, she leads the poll. I don’t see csdeven in the poll at all. Point it out and I’ll discuss me with you. I can see it’s important, so if you can find my name on the poll, I’ll satisfy your need to talk about me.

Fair enough?

csdeven on May 16, 2011 at 9:20 PM

Yes. How certain voters will react to Sarah. Sarah IS in the poll. As a matter of fact, she leads the poll. I don’t see csdeven in the poll at all. Point it out and I’ll discuss me with you. I can see it’s important, so if you can find my name on the poll, I’ll satisfy your need to talk about me.

Fair enough?

csdeven on May 16, 2011 at 9:20 PM

Fair enough if I give you a pass. But I don’t think you’re being as nonjudgmental as you seem to want us to believe you are.

gryphon202 on May 16, 2011 at 9:21 PM

A certain group is. And they voted in an obvious Marxist in 2008 because he was _____________. (Enter reason here)

csdeven on May 16, 2011 at 9:13 PM

The MSM can’t cover up Obama’s record now. I still think it comes down to a simple difference-of-opinion between the Palin supporters and the Palin detractors: Just how powerful will the media narrative actually be? Good thing I don’t let the media pick my candidates for me.

gryphon202 on May 16, 2011 at 9:23 PM

AH_C on May 16, 2011 at 9:17 PM

I am vetting Sarah as a proper candidate for the GOP nomination. I find her political position a very defensive one and therefore she starts from a very weak position. I have made no decision on who I think is the best candidate because the field isn’t not set yet. When I find the the GOP candidates I’ll support, just like in 2006, 2008, and 2010, I wont make it a secret.

I have already eliminated 8 of the persons in this poll. Huckabigot, Trump, and Gingrich before this weeks events.

csdeven on May 16, 2011 at 9:26 PM

The MSM can’t cover up Obama’s record now.

gryphon202 on May 16, 2011 at 9:23 PM

I have zero confidence in that. Maybe they will be fair this time around, but I don’t see any changes in the MSM management that would change their progressive bias.

csdeven on May 16, 2011 at 9:27 PM

But I don’t think you’re being as nonjudgmental as you seem to want us to believe you are.

gryphon202 on May 16, 2011 at 9:21 PM

Well, I know at what level I am making evaluations/judgments about her. Those may not be as clear to you, but it is hard to get that across when these threads almost always devolve into talking about me. I see myself as having a certain set of criteria that I expect from a candidate. I am trying to apply that evenly across the board and believe I am.

csdeven on May 16, 2011 at 9:31 PM

Well, I know at what level I am making evaluations/judgments about her. Those may not be as clear to you, but it is hard to get that across when these threads almost always devolve into talking about me. I see myself as having a certain set of criteria that I expect from a candidate. I am trying to apply that evenly across the board and believe I am.

csdeven on May 16, 2011 at 9:31 PM

So is Palin the only potential candidate who is going to be in trouble because of a “problem” that can’t be “explained away” in fifteen seconds? Or do you see other potential candidates with similar problems?

Aitch748 on May 16, 2011 at 9:42 PM

1) Cain’s national recognition: nearly nonexistent
2) Cain record in elections: 0 – 1
3) Cain’s image: angry (sells well with very angry anti-Obama voters–a small minority–but the American public will not elect an angry person)

itsnotaboutme on May 16, 2011 at 8:30 PM

His name recognition will grow, starting with Republicans who vote in primaries. He is already well known in the Tea Party.

If he gets the nomination, then it doesn’t matter what his name recognition is for the general public now. EVERYONE will know who he is. He will be the Republican nominee and for a change our nominee won’t be some boring stiff guy who thinks it’s his turn. (Obviously this would be the case with Palin and Bachman, as well, and W wasn’t boring.)

More importantly, he will be the guy running against Obama and that alone will get him votes, whether the general public knows him well or not. If they get to know him they will love him.

As to your “angry” comment. I don’t think you’ve seen him talk often. Yes, he expresses our outrage well, but always has a smile and twinkle in his eye. The guy has charisma. Definitely doesn’t come off as “angry.”

As for his not winning the only time he ran for something. He didn’t win the primary for the Senate nomination. He did not lose to the Democrat in a general.

This from Wikepedia:

In 2004, Cain ran for the U.S. Senate in Georgia, pursuing the seat that came open with the retirement of Democrat Zell Miller. Cain sought the Republican nomination, facing congressmen Johnny Isakson and Mac Collins in the primary. Cain and Collins both hoped to deny Isakson a majority on primary day in order to force him into a runoff.[citation needed] Collins tried to paint Cain as a moderate, citing Cain’s support for affirmative action programs, while Cain argued that he was a conservative, noting that he opposed the legality of abortion even in cases of rape and incest. Cain finished second in the primary with 26.2% of the vote, ahead of Collins, who won 20.6%, but because Isakson won 53.2% of the vote, Isakson was able to avoid a runoff

And this from an interview he did:

http://www.theroot.com/views/who-herman-cain?page=0,0

Interviewer: What are the four benchmarks that you’ve already hit?

Herman Cain: I’ll give you two of them. One is the response by activists and grassroots people. I have gotten a strong reception with the Tea Party movement, the citizens’ movement, and a lot of FairTax people are in my corner. The reason I won that straw poll that you referred to is because I have a strong ground game building. That was one of the things we were looking for.

Second, we’ve been able to generate considerable interest on the part of the alternative media. We have an Internet presence that is rivaled only by Sarah Palin, and that is because she is on a popularity road — God bless her, and more power to her. But a lot of people don’t realize that we have ways of measuring how commanding a presence I have with the Internet world. So those are two of our benchmarks that have exceeded our expectations, and we have one more river to cross.

Interviewer: You have a strong ground game, but what reception have you gotten from the Republican establishment? Do you think they’d work with or against you as a candidate?

Herman Cain: I believe they will work with me as I gain momentum. The good news is they have not tried to get in my way or discourage me. When I ran for the United States Senate back in 2004, designated hitters came to me that were part of the Republican establishment, and they tried to talk me out of running. They had already decided who they wanted to be the Republican nominee in Georgia.

The Republicans for a long time have played “Whose Turn Is It.” That’s why they keep losing. I don’t believe in “Whose Turn Is It.” You have to look at what is needed for the party and the country at that particular point in time. But they have not tried to discourage me or create any impediment, and that’s all I ask at this point. Let’s let the power of the people speak.

Elisa on May 16, 2011 at 9:48 PM

1) Cain’s national recognition: nearly nonexistent
2) Cain record in elections: 0 – 1
3) Cain’s image: angry (sells well with very angry anti-Obama voters–a small minority–but the American public will not elect an angry person)

itsnotaboutme on May 16, 2011 at 8:30 PM

His name recognition will grow, starting with Republicans who vote in primaries. He is already well known in the Tea Party.

If he gets the nomination, then it doesn’t matter what his name recognition is for the general public now. EVERYONE will know who he is. He will be the Republican nominee and for a change our nominee won’t be some boring stiff guy who thinks it’s his turn. (Obviously this would be the case with Palin and Bachman, as well, and W wasn’t boring.)

More importantly, he will be the guy running against Obama and that alone will get him votes, whether the general public knows him well or not. If they get to know him they will love him.

As to your “angry” comment. I don’t think you’ve seen him talk often. Yes, he expresses our outrage well, but always has a smile and twinkle in his eye. The guy has charisma. Definitely doesn’t come off as “angry.”

As for his not winning the only time he ran for something. He didn’t win the primary for the Senate nomination. He did not lose to the Democrat in a general.

This from Wikepedia:

In 2004, Cain ran for the U.S. Senate in Georgia, pursuing the seat that came open with the retirement of Democrat Zell Miller. Cain sought the Republican nomination, facing congressmen Johnny Isakson and Mac Collins in the primary. Cain and Collins both hoped to deny Isakson a majority on primary day in order to force him into a runoff.[citation needed] Collins tried to paint Cain as a moderate, citing Cain’s support for affirmative action programs, while Cain argued that he was a conservative, noting that he opposed the legality of abortion even in cases of rape and incest. Cain finished second in the primary with 26.2% of the vote, ahead of Collins, who won 20.6%, but because Isakson won 53.2% of the vote, Isakson was able to avoid a runoff

And this from an interview he did:

http://www.theroot.com/views/who-herman-cain?page=0,0

Interviewer: What are the four benchmarks that you’ve already hit?

Herman Cain: I’ll give you two of them. One is the response by activists and grassroots people. I have gotten a strong reception with the Tea Party movement, the citizens’ movement, and a lot of FairTax people are in my corner. The reason I won that straw poll that you referred to is because I have a strong ground game building. That was one of the things we were looking for.

Second, we’ve been able to generate considerable interest on the part of the alternative media. We have an Internet presence that is rivaled only by Sarah Palin, and that is because she is on a popularity road — God bless her, and more power to her. But a lot of people don’t realize that we have ways of measuring how commanding a presence I have with the Internet world. So those are two of our benchmarks that have exceeded our expectations, and we have one more river to cross.

Interviewer: You have a strong ground game, but what reception have you gotten from the Republican establishment? Do you think they’d work with or against you as a candidate?

Herman Cain: I believe they will work with me as I gain momentum. The good news is they have not tried to get in my way or discourage me. When I ran for the United States Senate back in 2004, designated hitters came to me that were part of the Republican establishment, and they tried to talk me out of running. They had already decided who they wanted to be the Republican nominee in Georgia.

The Republicans for a long time have played “Whose Turn Is It.” That’s why they keep losing. I don’t believe in “Whose Turn Is It.” You have to look at what is needed for the party and the country at that particular point in time. But they have not tried to discourage me or create any impediment, and that’s all I ask at this point. Let’s let the power of the people speak.

Elisa on May 16, 2011 at 9:51 PM

Different story on the overall vote front, though. The biggest pop in support? Herman Cain, whose support had remained mostly unchanged at Hot Air over the last few months.

Yes! The Cain Train is building momentum.

rukiddingme on May 16, 2011 at 9:53 PM

Sorry for the duplicate, I tried to post that 3 times and it didn’t show up. then I got 2.

Elisa on May 16, 2011 at 9:56 PM

I have already eliminated 8 of the persons in this poll. Huckabigot, Trump, and Gingrich before this weeks events.

csdeven on May 16, 2011 at 9:26 PM

You’re not the only one to eliminate the same. So, how is Mitch the “butterknife” going to fair in the ever-so-critical 15 sec soundbite responce to:
1) What did you do to make your wife run away from you?
2) Why did you take the s!ut back?
3) Why does she wear the pants in the house and will she continue to do so in the WH?
4) More stupid irrelevant questions from the BLM, but as you pointed out, the independents are so gullible to the BLM TPs that when he hits the 16 second mark, red flags shoot up.

Oh, BTW, that’s why Schmuckabee bailed out. He knew that not only couldn’t pass the 15-sec test, he can’t even give a coherent answer after 4 years as to why he pardoned unrepentant murderers or why he would be a better, kinder, compassionate nanny bar none.

Wait, I hear a giant sucking sound – why it’s the nobody-but-Hucksters-while-anybody-but-Palinistas frantically looking for a new champion, any champion that can beat 15-seconds.

PS. The MSM tried often to define the narrative for Reagan and he beat them by going over their heads and speaking directly to the people. And we all know Sierra Papa is not up to that task. Right?

Fifteen-schmefteen second test.

AH_C on May 16, 2011 at 10:18 PM

so I see the quitter troll is still around….ROFLMAO nothing like fighting the last war.

unseen on May 16, 2011 at 10:25 PM

Aitch748 on May 16, 2011 at 9:42 PM

Romney, Huntsman, Bachmann, Cain, West,….I see issues with each one that will be problematic. Romney is in the most trouble because of Romneycare, but I am afraid he will appeal to that group which will abandon Obama for a RINO.

csdeven on May 16, 2011 at 11:10 PM

AH_C on May 16, 2011 at 10:18 PM

I don’t know anything about Daniels.

And the MSM didn’t have a love affair going on with Carter. Obama is the embodiment of 40 years of Marxist planning and I don’t see them abandoning him in 2012.

csdeven on May 16, 2011 at 11:15 PM

With just a little due respect to my fellow Hot Airians, I can’t think of anything less meaningful for the GOP primary than a survey of us. Hot Air is so wildly skewed to the least likely candidates it’s like a petri dish for third party threats. 65% of your votes are for Cain, Palin and fringe Libertarian nutjob Ron Paul?

Good grief, dude. Your time would have been better spent getting stoned with Tony Bennett.

Jaibones on May 16, 2011 at 11:34 PM

With just a little due respect to my fellow Hot Airians, I can’t think of anything less meaningful for the GOP primary than a survey of us. Hot Air is so wildly skewed to the least likely candidates it’s like a petri dish for third party threats. 65% of your votes are for Cain, Palin and fringe Libertarian nutjob Ron Paul?

Jaibones on May 16, 2011 at 11:34 PM

Palin’s positive poll numbers among Republicans right now are probably double Pawlenty’s and Daniels’ combined, and you call her “unlikely”?

pseudoforce on May 17, 2011 at 12:23 AM

I see myself as having a certain set of criteria that I expect from a candidate. I am trying to apply that evenly across the board and believe I am.

csdeven on May 16, 2011 at 9:31 PM

Then that is yet another thing that you and I are going to have a difference of opinion on.

gryphon202 on May 17, 2011 at 12:43 AM

I have zero confidence in that. Maybe they will be fair this time around, but I don’t see any changes in the MSM management that would change their progressive bias.

csdeven on May 16, 2011 at 9:27 PM

I didn’t say anything about them being fair. I didn’t say they WON’T cover up Obama’s record. I said they CAN’T. Big difference there. I would expect them to be just as vicious towards any Republican candidate as you think they would be against Palin. It’s just that when it comes to sheer chutzpah, Obama can even make Bill Clinton look like a piker.

gryphon202 on May 17, 2011 at 12:46 AM

palin 2012, boohya

mathewsjw on May 17, 2011 at 5:17 AM

Palin’s positive poll numbers among Republicans right now are probably double Pawlenty’s and Daniels’ combined, and you call her “unlikely”?

pseudoforce on May 17, 2011 at 12:23 AM

Her positives are awful among all voters; she fares worst against Obama in every poll I’ve seen; she’s unannounced — yeah, unlikely.

Jaibones on May 17, 2011 at 6:10 AM

I said they CAN’T.

gryphon202 on May 17, 2011 at 12:46 AM

Who is going to make sure they do? Not themselves. They will simply obfuscate, lie, and not report the facts.

csdeven on May 17, 2011 at 6:17 AM

nothing like fighting the last war.

unseen on May 16, 2011 at 10:25 PM

Just because you claim victory because you can’t defend against her history does not mean the war is over. You lost and are refusing to admit it.

csdeven on May 17, 2011 at 6:19 AM

Politico has a poll out, would you vote for Obama if election was today. He is AHEAD.. Unreal. http://www.politico.com/

reshas1 on May 17, 2011 at 8:55 AM

Politico has a poll out, would you vote for Obama if election was today. He is AHEAD.. Unreal. http://www.politico.com/

reshas1 on May 17, 2011 at 8:55 AM

I hope to heaven that poll is rigged or had really rotten sampling. If that’s truly fair and representative we are HOSED in 2012.

Uncle Sams Nephew on May 17, 2011 at 9:12 AM

One thing about Palin… There will be no new October Surprise on her. Everybody already knows everything about her.

jeffn21 on May 17, 2011 at 9:12 AM

I hope to heaven that poll is rigged or had really rotten sampling. If that’s truly fair and representative we are HOSED in 2012.

Uncle Sams Nephew on May 17, 2011 at 9:12 AM

Well, it is the politico. That would be like assuming a Hot Air Poll is what the final election would look like.

jeffn21 on May 17, 2011 at 9:14 AM

Who is going to make sure they do? Not themselves. They will simply obfuscate, lie, and not report the facts.

csdeven on May 17, 2011 at 6:17 AM

They’ll do all that no matter who the candidate is. But the only thing transparent about this administration and its media bootlickers are the lies. It’s only a question of how many people fall for them this time given the absolutely unprecedented nature of Obama’s power grabs.

gryphon202 on May 17, 2011 at 9:36 AM

Her positives are awful among all voters; she fares worst against Obama in every poll I’ve seen; she’s unannounced — yeah, unlikely.

Jaibones on May 17, 2011 at 6:10 AM

Do you know the significance of July 4, 2011? Beyond the obvious fact that it’s Independence Day?

gryphon202 on May 17, 2011 at 9:37 AM

Do you know the significance of July 4, 2011? Beyond the obvious fact that it’s Independence Day?

gryphon202 on May 17, 2011 at 9:37 AM

Is Palin planning something big that day?

Uncle Sams Nephew on May 17, 2011 at 9:50 AM

nothing like fighting the last war.

unseen on May 16, 2011 at 10:25 PM
Just because you claim victory because you can’t defend against her history does not mean the war is over. You lost and are refusing to admit it.

csdeven on May 17, 2011 at 6:19 AM

All right, she quit to run for President. Obama quit to run for President. What’s the difference?

And remember to answer with a slogan because explanations with more than two sentences are automatically suspect. /

Aitch748 on May 17, 2011 at 10:06 AM

I wish Palin would announce that she’s not running.
TheBlueSite on May 16, 2011 at 4:47 PM

As my grandmother used to say, “Wish in one hand, spit in the other and see which one fills up the fastest!”

Amjean on May 17, 2011 at 10:15 AM

Her positives are awful among all voters; she fares worst against Obama in every poll I’ve seen; she’s unannounced — yeah, unlikely.

Jaibones on May 17, 2011 at 6:10 AM

If Palin is unlikely for the reasons you gave, then just about everyone else who could be running for the GOP is even less likely.

Aitch748 on May 17, 2011 at 10:16 AM

One thing about Palin… There will be no new October Surprise on her. Everybody already knows everything about her.

jeffn21 on May 17, 2011 at 9:12 AM

You can take it to the bank that the left and rino repub
estab will float a big lie about Palin. All the stuff
they have thrown at her already have been lies. Not a truth to be seen.

Amjean on May 17, 2011 at 10:18 AM

All right, she quit to run for President. Obama quit to run for President. What’s the difference?

And remember to answer with a slogan because explanations with more than two sentences are automatically suspect. /

Aitch748 on May 17, 2011 at 10:06 AM

No she didn’t. She abdicated because it got too tough and she wanted to save money.

csdeven on May 17, 2011 at 10:22 AM

No she didn’t. She abdicated because it got too tough and she wanted to save money.

csdeven on May 17, 2011 at 10:22 AM

I guess if by “save money” you mean “not bankrupt her family because she had no other recourse,” you could be right. But then, this is about the narrative, right? Not your own personal feelings? You nonjudgmental little scamp, you!

gryphon202 on May 17, 2011 at 10:24 AM

Is Palin planning something big that day?

Uncle Sams Nephew on May 17, 2011 at 9:50 AM

I don’t have it on authority, but she could be. It is a significant day for Palin, and it will be interesting to me to see how she uses it.

gryphon202 on May 17, 2011 at 10:26 AM

No she didn’t. She abdicated because it got too tough and she wanted to save money.

csdeven on May 17, 2011 at 10:22 AM

Oh really? What happened to “You just need to get the explanation down to fifteen seconds long” and “I’m just trying to be evenhanded about all the GOP hopefuls?”

Hey folks, look at this: We Palin supporters point out that it took only a few months for a few malcontents to use a bad Alaskan law to impose on the governor a debt more than four times the governor’s yearly salary, and this guy summarizes this point as “she quit to save money.” This csdeven guy sounds like a headline writer for Reuters.

Aitch748 on May 17, 2011 at 10:37 AM

Hey folks, look at this: We Palin supporters point out that it took only a few months for a few malcontents to use a bad Alaskan law to impose on the governor a debt more than four times the governor’s yearly salary, and this guy summarizes this point as “she quit to save money.” This csdeven guy sounds like a headline writer for Reuters.

Aitch748 on May 17, 2011 at 10:37 AM

Naw. He isn’t being judgmental at all. He’s just pointing out to us the narrative that Palin will have to overcome, but can’t or something./

gryphon202 on May 17, 2011 at 10:43 AM

Naw. He isn’t being judgmental at all. He’s just pointing out to us the narrative that Palin will have to overcome, but can’t or something./

gryphon202 on May 17, 2011 at 10:43 AM

There is no reason for sarcasm because what you said is exactly right. Except for the part where I said she definitely could not overcome it. I said it would be an uphill battle, almost as hard as it will be for Romney to distance himself from Romneycare.

csdeven on May 17, 2011 at 11:13 AM

Aitch748 on May 17, 2011 at 10:37 AM

Asked and answered several times. She has several reasons why she quit and more explanations to justify the reasons. And those explanations raise more questions. She will spend all her time on the defensive or ignoring it and looking like she has something to hide. This is a well known tactic used by both parties.

But why are you trying to hijack this thread by making this about me?

csdeven on May 17, 2011 at 11:17 AM

But why are you trying to hijack this thread by making this about me?

csdeven on May 17, 2011 at 11:17 AM

Why does honesty seem to be so difficult for you?

gryphon202 on May 17, 2011 at 11:22 AM

There is no reason for sarcasm because what you said is exactly right. Except for the part where I said she definitely could not overcome it. I said it would be an uphill battle, almost as hard as it will be for Romney to distance himself from Romneycare.

csdeven on May 17, 2011 at 11:13 AM

Well I don’t see you tearing down Romney on a daily basis. But maybe I have a selective memory.

gryphon202 on May 17, 2011 at 11:23 AM

Hey folks, look at this: We Palin supporters point out that it took only a few months for a few malcontents to use a bad Alaskan law to impose on the governor a debt more than four times the governor’s yearly salary, and this guy summarizes this point as “she quit to save money.” This csdeven guy sounds like a headline writer for Reuters.

Aitch748 on May 17, 2011 at 10:37 AM

His protestaion to the contray, I think he’s an oppo-researcher for the DNC posing as a concerned conservative…

For cs, it’s never about her positives, rather the ‘negative’ that can’t be condensed into a 15 second come back. If SP runs and then wins, we’ll need a wet-vac to clean up after her/him.

AH_C on May 17, 2011 at 11:24 AM

For cs, it’s never about her positives, rather the ‘negative’ that can’t be condensed into a 15 second come back. If SP runs and then wins, we’ll need a wet-vac to clean up after her/him.

AH_C on May 17, 2011 at 11:24 AM

If SP runs and wins, we’ll never see him around here again.

gryphon202 on May 17, 2011 at 11:26 AM

For cs, it’s never about her positives, rather the ‘negative’ that can’t be condensed into a 15 second come back.

AH_C on May 17, 2011 at 11:24 AM

And when I actually did provide a slogan-level explanation for her stepping down, he just denied it and substituted his own. In the end he’s fixated on the idea of Palin being a miserly wimp.

It’s kind of amazing how Palin’s detractors seem to be drawn again and again to the fact that she stepped down voluntarily when most politicians try to spend their whole lives in office. I guess there’s hardly any other reasons a person could use to justify his distaste for her.

Aitch748 on May 17, 2011 at 11:52 AM

Well I don’t see you tearing down Romney on a daily basis. But maybe I have a selective memory.

gryphon202 on May 17, 2011 at 11:23 AM

The Romney fans don’t defend him. You guys defend Palin, so I respond. Then there are responses to me, and I counter. It is exactly how these discussions are supposed to proceed.

I’m disappointed in the personal insults toward me and the ridiculous accusations etc, but I’ve been on HA since almost the very first day and I get why people start with the insults.

Anyway, as far as Romney is concerned, I supported him over McCain, but voted for McCain in the general. I will do the same in the 2012 general. I have not made my mind up about my choice in the primary. Probably not Sarah, unless I see her effectively counter the issue of her abdication etc. But, we’ll see what happens when the field is complete.

csdeven on May 17, 2011 at 11:53 AM

Aitch748 on May 17, 2011 at 11:52 AM

Those are your excuses and they work for you. But try convincing someone who isn’t interested in Palin to accept those convoluted explanations. It wont be effective.

The difference between Obama and Huntsman resigning and Sarah’s abdication is that they had jobs in the can before they quit. Sarah quit in 2009, got a TV show and still hasn’t announced if she will run. You may be convinced that she always planned on running, and it may be that she has all along. But she DID NOT have a job waiting for her when she quit. That difference is very stark and your assertion that the situations are the same is weak sauce and raises more eyebrows.

csdeven on May 17, 2011 at 11:59 AM

csdeven on May 17, 2011 at 11:53 AM

Your “vetting” is selective…Your offense at being on the receiving end of some adjectives is ironic considering the insults you hurled at some after McCain lost…Mitt was your candidate in ’08 and he QUIT the race because he was soooo far behind…Or, was it because it was costing him too much to stay in???

Gohawgs on May 17, 2011 at 12:06 PM

But, we’ll see what happens when the field is complete.

csdeven on May 17, 2011 at 11:53 AM

So since the field isn’t complete, you don’t know who is electable, but you know who isn’t. And even why. I just don’t get it.

gryphon202 on May 17, 2011 at 12:16 PM

A Congress full of lawyers, not a real successful businessman among them, have made a financial disaster of this nation. It would truly be beneficial to have someone in office who doesn’t have to spend billions of dollars or hold a ‘summit’ to find out how to create jobs. (An dFunny how the President who promised to create jobs is so rabidly loyal to the Union, a group that is seeking to KILL JOBS in SC through a lawsuit against the state simply because it is a ‘Right to Work’ state, a state that believes any man or woman should be able to get a job of their own without 1st being forced to join a union!)

Seeing as how any criticism of Obama (failed) policies has resulted in cries of ‘racism’, I would love to see a ticket of Herman Cain and Michele Bachman, a successful black conservative business man and an intelligent woman. I am sure the Liberals would start out slow but would eventually overcome the challlenge these two would pose to their tactics which involve an extreme lack of civility. Still, I think the two would also offer up a REAL promise of ‘change’, this time for the better.

easyt65 on May 17, 2011 at 12:18 PM

Those are your excuses and they work for you. But try convincing someone who isn’t interested in Palin to accept those convoluted explanations. It wont be effective.

The difference between Obama and Huntsman resigning and Sarah’s abdication is that they had jobs in the can before they quit. Sarah quit in 2009, got a TV show and still hasn’t announced if she will run. You may be convinced that she always planned on running, and it may be that she has all along. But she DID NOT have a job waiting for her when she quit. That difference is very stark and your assertion that the situations are the same is weak sauce and raises more eyebrows.

csdeven on May 17, 2011 at 11:59 AM

Sorry, it takes longer than fifteen seconds to say all that, so YOU FAIL.

Aitch748 on May 17, 2011 at 12:27 PM

Also, you provided an explanation. Explanations are in and of themselves suspect — you said this yourself. FAIL. YOU LOSE.

Aitch748 on May 17, 2011 at 12:39 PM

Her positives are awful among all voters; she fares worst against Obama in every poll I’ve seen; she’s unannounced — yeah, unlikely.

Jaibones on May 17, 2011 at 6:10 AM

And no doubt you’ll still be saying that while Pawlenty and Daniels are still steing in the single digits.

All that matters right now is Republican opinion. Whether Palin runs or not, hopefully there will be enough GOP voters who are willing to look beyond friggin’ Gallup in choosing a candidate. That said, what are Daniels’ favorable ratings among Republicans? And he’s a “serious” one.

pseudoforce on May 17, 2011 at 4:05 PM

* stewing

pseudoforce on May 17, 2011 at 4:06 PM

So since the field isn’t complete, you don’t know who is electable, but you know who isn’t. And even why. I just don’t get it.

gryphon202 on May 17, 2011 at 12:16 PM

The size of the field isn’t important because in the general it comes down to Obama and the GOP nominee. You know for a fact that my comments are in reference to the general election against Obama and not the GOP primary.

csdeven on May 17, 2011 at 7:59 PM

Sorry, it takes longer than fifteen seconds to say all that, so YOU FAIL.

Aitch748 on May 17, 2011 at 12:27 PM

Bwahahahaha!!! Yeah riiiiight. Put a stopwatch on my 11:59 am response. And even including the parts directed to you personally, which would NOT be in a 15 second ad, the time to read it was about 18 seconds! The relevant part takes maybe 10 seconds!

The difference between Obama and Huntsman resigning and Sarah’s abdication is that they had jobs in the can before they quit. Sarah quit in 2009, got a TV show and still hasn’t announced if she will run.

Now maybe if you read it real slow, you could push it to 15 seconds.

I am ready for your next complaint…..

csdeven on May 17, 2011 at 8:10 PM

Also, you provided an explanation. Explanations are in and of themselves suspect — you said this yourself. FAIL. YOU LOSE.

Aitch748 on May 17, 2011 at 12:39 PM

That explanation was for your benefit and you know that.

csdeven on May 17, 2011 at 8:11 PM

The well has been poisoned. Sarah cannot win. Wasting time discussing this and not addressing candidates who could win is what will defeat us in 2012. I like her too but I want a winner. We cannot get rid of Obama if we don’t WIN!!!!

AReadyRepub on May 18, 2011 at 1:49 AM

Where’s Allen West in this poll? West hasn’t said he’s running yet, but neither have others who appear in your poll. There are plenty of people like me who believe West is the right choice for the Republican nominee.

Hermeticus on May 18, 2011 at 9:44 AM

So, Palin/Cain it is then! Glad we finally got that settled for America. Pure Awesome on a sesame seed bun :-)

DaMav on May 18, 2011 at 9:51 AM

I finally read up a little on who the heck Gary Johnson is. Basically he is a libertarian possibly like Ron Paul. He’d be great in charge of the fed, but maybe not as President.

jeffn21 on May 18, 2011 at 1:10 PM

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