Scott Brown: Damn, that Romney health-care speech was courageous

posted at 6:27 pm on May 12, 2011 by Allahpundit

Alternate headline: “Scott Brown once again begs tea partiers to primary him.”

“Governor Romney showed a lot of courage today by standing his ground on the reforms he put in place in Massachusetts,” Brown said in a statement. “What he did as governor worked for Massachusetts by getting health insurance to more people.”…

“Now he has laid out his plan for the nation, which unlike ObamaCare does not require a vast expansion of the federal government and a half-trillion dollars in new taxes,” Brown said. “Instead, he would return to the states the power to determine their own healthcare solutions, which is where it belongs.”

This is mainly a case of Brown repaying a political debt. He owes Team Mitt big time for their help, both financial and managerial, in knocking off Coakley to win the Senate special election last year. At a moment when every other Republican in America is groaning over Romney’s speech today — except of course for Pawlenty, who’s privately cackling like the Joker — he’s showing some loyalty. What I don’t get is why he’d go out of his way to say how RomneyCare is working for Massachusetts. It’s one thing to pay lip service to Romney’s alleged courage in defending RomneyCare (in fact, Mitt really had no choice in what he said today), it’s another to tout the alleged virtues of the program. Isn’t this the same guy who shocked the world by winning in the bluest of blue states after Democrats had framed the election as a de facto referendum on ObamaCare? And now he’s implicitly saluting the individual mandate (at the state level, granted) as the cure for what ails us? Mystifying.

Oh well. He’s primary-proof and he knows it. Damn those liberal electorates! For your viewing pleasure, a few more minutes from Romney’s “damn right I’m the man to blame for RomneyCare” mea non-culpa this afternoon. When you’re done, read Avik Roy’s withering response at NRO. Exit quotation: “Mitt Romney just gave a more articulate defense of Obamacare than President Obama ever has.”


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Alternate headline: “Scott Brown once again begs tea partiers to primary him.”

I’m beginning to wish….Super RINO.

cynccook on May 12, 2011 at 6:29 PM

Tim Pawlenty 2012!

terryannonline on May 12, 2011 at 6:32 PM

Tool.

rrpjr on May 12, 2011 at 6:32 PM

Romney 2012!!

hanzblinx on May 12, 2011 at 6:32 PM

Why are all the cute ones so dumb?

Fallon on May 12, 2011 at 6:32 PM

I’m starting to feel like we’re the ones who are out of touch here. Maybe we should just give in and become RINOs too. Stop fighting and embrace the squish within us all…

cynccook on May 12, 2011 at 6:34 PM

RomneyCare works! Just keep throwing money at it!

GarandFan on May 12, 2011 at 6:36 PM

The Handsome Bubble. Warning: Tina Fey and one of the Baldwin’s.

Fallon on May 12, 2011 at 6:38 PM

I’m starting to feel like we’re the ones who are out of touch here. Maybe we should just give in and become RINOs too. Stop fighting and embrace the squish within us all…

cynccook on May 12, 2011 at 6:34 PM

According to petunia, we are the RINOs and they are the true conservatives. Or something like that.

steebo77 on May 12, 2011 at 6:38 PM

RomneyCare works! Just keep throwing FEDERAL money at it!

GarandFan on May 12, 2011 at 6:36 PM

By way of clarification.

gryphon202 on May 12, 2011 at 6:38 PM

Who can watch this Romney fellow and still scoff at Obama’s people thinking they can take Texas this time?

Marcus on May 12, 2011 at 6:40 PM

Alternate headline: “Scott Brown once again begs tea partiers to primary him.”

Can a real conservative win in Massachusetts? Scott Brown may be surprised to learn that the answer is yes. He was perhaps a small step in the right direction. His ideas however, have no real staying power and the people of Massachusetts will remember how he voted (i.e. not how he campaigned). To slightly misquote him, “It’s the people’s seat, not Scott Browns.”

Tommy_G on May 12, 2011 at 6:44 PM

Hottie McAwesome is a stripper idiot…

OmahaConservative on May 12, 2011 at 6:45 PM

Who can watch this Romney fellow and still scoff at Obama’s people thinking they can take Texas this time?

Marcus on May 12, 2011 at 6:40 PM

I can and I do and I am. Texas will go blue will South Dakota does.

gryphon202 on May 12, 2011 at 6:45 PM

According to petunia, we are the RINOs and they are the true conservatives. Or something like that.

steebo77 on May 12, 2011 at 6:38 PM

LOL If she knew how conservative some of us here are, I think she’d run away in horror. That’s right, who’s up for a Conservative cred p!ssing contest?

cynccook on May 12, 2011 at 6:49 PM

just watched Mitt Romney’s much-anticipated speech on healthcare, which was vigorously pre-butted by the Wall Street Journal this morning.

It was a sincere, intelligent, cogent, informed political disaster.

unseen on May 12, 2011 at 6:49 PM

I’m starting to feel like we’re the ones who are out of touch here. Maybe we should just give in and become RINOs too. Stop fighting and embrace the squish within us all…

cynccook on May 12, 2011 at 6:34 PM

Yep…frustratin ain’t it? *sigh*

tencole on May 12, 2011 at 6:50 PM

The essence of Romney’s position is: I stand by my successful healthcare plan in Massachusetts, but ObamaCare is a disaster because it does all of the things that RomneyCare does, just on a national level. So, if I am elected president I will give waivers to states so they can repeat my mistakes if they want to, or, if they are smart, they will reject both my approach and Obama’s.

I don’t think it will work

.
http://blog.american.com/2011/05/romney-obamacare-is-nationalized-romneycare/

unseen on May 12, 2011 at 6:50 PM

Here we go.

The Republicans trying to out Democrat the Democrats.

That always works…

catmman on May 12, 2011 at 6:51 PM

Can Mitt now leave the room and allow the serious adult candidates to debate the course of the Gop.

unseen on May 12, 2011 at 6:53 PM

What this speech shows me is that the results of the 2008 primaires were no fluke.

unseen on May 12, 2011 at 6:54 PM

Looks like some so-called conservative just want poor people to drop dead. They do nothing, don’t want other’s people do something and don’t offer any alternative, any solutions to any problem.

Falz on May 12, 2011 at 6:54 PM

Where’s the naked Meghan McCain Post on Hotair?

I saw it on another site. My vision is just returning to normal.

Oil Can on May 12, 2011 at 6:56 PM

What this speech shows me is that the results of the 2008 primaires were no fluke.

unseen on May 12, 2011 at 6:54 PM

This.

tencole on May 12, 2011 at 6:57 PM

Stupid is as stupid does.

CTSherman on May 12, 2011 at 6:59 PM

Looks like some so-called conservative just want poor people to drop dead. They do nothing, don’t want other’s people do something and don’t offer any alternative, any solutions to any problem.

Falz on May 12, 2011 at 6:54 PM

It’s because we are evil. Try it. You might like the dark side!

sharrukin on May 12, 2011 at 6:59 PM

This is mainly a case of Brown repaying a political debt. He owes Team Mitt big time for their help, both financial and managerial, in knocking off Coakley to win the Senate special election last year.

Well, it was a good enough reason for the Palin supporters when she supported McCain.

rjl1999 on May 12, 2011 at 7:02 PM

This is mainly a case of Brown repaying a political debt. He owes Team Mitt big time for their help…

Well hey….as long as he’s “returning a favor”.

Another hack….great.

Tim_CA on May 12, 2011 at 7:04 PM

I am inclined to agree only because it’s not what most of us wanted to hear. I heard Hugh today trying to explain that the penalty or tax or what ever you want to call it in Massachusetts for failing to buy the government sanctioned health care isn’t the same as Obamacare punishing us for failing to buy its sanctioned health care. It was the first time I had no idea what Hugh was trying say.

jawkneemusic on May 12, 2011 at 7:05 PM

As a resident of the Commonwealth People’s Republic of Massachusetts I can offer a meager defense of Mitt:

1. We had worse options on the table (i.e. single payer) when Romneycare was adopted. And there was a strong sentiment in the state to do something on the issue.

2. We had a budget surplus at the time IIRC. I would have far preferred a tax cut rather than a new entitlement, but unlike Obamacare Mitt wasn’t knowingly spending $ he didn’t have.

3. The price has been far higher than the estimates at the time but most of the inflation we’re seeing in health care is due to Democrats – both the legislature when Romney was Gov & Deval Patrick subsequently.

Special interests are bribing Beacon Hill to get their specialized fields into Romneycare. I have to pay insurance for chiropracty, infertility treatment & podiatry to name a few. Personally I’d prefer to pay less monthly and be insured only for catastrophe and pay most out of pocket if and when I’d need it. Romney did open the door for this sh1t, but he also fought (mostly unsuccessfully) against larding it up.

With all that said there’s no way in he11 he’s getting my primary vote. Too flip-floppy, too disingenuous. (In MA the primary’s the important vote for conservatives – unfortunately the state’s a lock for Obama in 2012.)

beancounter on May 12, 2011 at 7:11 PM

Looks like some so-called conservative just want poor people to drop dead. They do nothing, don’t want other’s people do something and don’t offer any alternative, any solutions to any problem.

Falz on May 12, 2011 at 6:54 PM

There are these neat things called charities, churches, and one’s extended family that have helped out quite nicely since the beginning of time. Thanks for the amusing false dichotomy though: Either we embrace massive government or the bodies of the poor will pile up in the streets!11!!1

Kataklysmic on May 12, 2011 at 7:16 PM

Yeah, that Romney speech was almost as ballsy as taking sixteen hours to decide whether or not to allow SEAL Team Six to take out Osama bin Laden.

COURAGE!!!!!11!11!!!!!1!

Aitch748 on May 12, 2011 at 7:19 PM

Romney = joke
Scott Brown = joke
Fred Thompson = now a joke too.
Ron Paul = joke

and for her support for immigration reform and legal status for tens of millions of illegal immigrants,

Palin = joke. (Gingrich too for the same reason)

Pawlenty, or Bachmann, or Cain.

rightwingyahooo on May 12, 2011 at 7:21 PM

Gutsy…

golfmann on May 12, 2011 at 7:22 PM

rightwingyahooo on May 12, 2011 at 7:21 PM

Come on man, spam the thread with your usual transcript of the O’Reilly interview. You know you want to…

Kataklysmic on May 12, 2011 at 7:24 PM

Because there’s nothing that screams courage like wasting months of campaign time deliberating over how to handle your biggest political liability. This is a no-win situation for Mittens and I’m perfectly fine with it.

Tellingly, Romney’s biggest fan K-Lo at NRO has not posted a reaction yet while her colleagues are unanimously critical.

Terrie on May 12, 2011 at 7:26 PM

First off, I think we’ll wind up with O.care then single payer in about 10 years (once O.care destroys the private sector).

Despite the caterwauling from the anti-Romney people (and no the NRO piece was hardly “withering”), we must try to improve the current situation.

Romney’s main points:

Step 1: Give states the responsibility, flexibility and resources to care for citizens who are poor, uninsured or chronically ill. This reform speaks to the central advantage of our federalist system — that different states will experiment with and settle on the solutions that suit their residents best.

Step 2: Reform the tax code to promote the individual ownership of health insurance. The tax code offers open-ended subsidies for the purchase of insurance through employers. This subsidy is unfair — as it doesn’t apply to insurance purchased on one’s own.

Step 3: Focus federal regulation of health care on making markets work. This means both correcting common failures in insurance markets as well as eliminating counterproductive federal rules.

Step 4: Reform medical liability. We should cap non-economic damages in medical malpractice litigation.

Step 5: Make health care more like a consumer market and less like a government program. This can be done by strengthening health savings accounts that help consumers save for health expenses and choose cost-effective insurance.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/forum/2011-05-11-Romney-on-fixing-health-care_n.htm

Now I would like for people to tell me exactly what they object to in his plan….aside from the fact that he did no apologize for MassCare.

r keller on May 12, 2011 at 7:29 PM

Come on man, spam the thread

Funny, everyone posts whatever they want, no one gets accused of spamming, but when you post clear evidence of a horrible position by a cult favorite, you are auto-accused of spamming.

rightwingyahooo on May 12, 2011 at 7:30 PM

Mitt Romney “I suck but Im all you got so suck it up and vote for me”

William Amos on May 12, 2011 at 7:33 PM

aside from the fact that he did no apologize for MassCare.

It means you can’t trust him, and he refused to accept the consequences for his horrible mistakes.

MassCare is an utter disaster, it has hurt people deeply in that state, for that alone, he should apologize.

He should apologize for robbing their freedom by way of the mandate.

And he shows we cannot trust him, because we know that his principles going forward will be to arrogate, deny, and excuse, rather than cheerfully and instinctively fight for our liberty.

Thats why…

rightwingyahooo on May 12, 2011 at 7:34 PM

no one gets accused of spamming

rightwingyahooo on May 12, 2011 at 7:30 PM

You are spamming because its meaningless crap that has been debunked numerous times and you keep posting the same trash. Its troll behavior and you have no interest in making an argument or learning anything.

sharrukin on May 12, 2011 at 7:38 PM

In a just world, Romney would be effectively disqualified from the R nomination for such a speech, and would shortly end his campaign…

As Palin would be disqualified for her immigration reform position. Ditto Newt. Ditto Paul.

And T Paw should be, for his embrace of cap and trade. But he has renounced it, so let’s give him one more narrow and guarded chance.

Any more statist claptrap and you’re done, T paw. Mind, now…..

If Romney had apologized and truly recanted, he’d be the presumptive nominee right now.

Let’s see Palin come out and renounce her support for immigration reform, and then she can have the nomination.

T-Paw, we are watching you. No nonsense, please. Or we’ll have your stripes as well.

rightwingyahooo on May 12, 2011 at 7:39 PM

You are spamming because its meaningless crap that has been debunked numerous times and you keep posting the same trash. Its troll behavior and you have no interest in making an argument or learning anything.

sharrukin on May 12, 2011 at 7:38 PM

It’s not mindless or trash, it is the clear meaning of her spoken words, and it’s never been debunked, all that’s happened is you freaks have gone to bat for amnesty to defend her.

I have made and won the argument, and it’s you who refuse to read English words, cultist.

rightwingyahooo on May 12, 2011 at 7:40 PM

Where’s the naked Meghan McCain Post on Hotair?

Wait, I need a bigger monitor.

Emperor Norton on May 12, 2011 at 7:42 PM

There should be a fine for posting the Mega-Mac shoulders pic.

It’s like old McCain himself without his shirt on. I vomited too.

rightwingyahooo on May 12, 2011 at 7:45 PM

Well, it was a good enough reason for the Palin supporters when she supported McCain.

rjl1999 on May 12, 2011 at 7:02 PM

Yup. If he dissed him I’d think he was a little disloyal. I can’t bring myself to be too hard on Scott Brown. He is a GOP senator in the People’s Republic of Massachusetts. I would never support him for national office, but he’s the best MA can do.

Now Maine on the other hand…

alwaysfiredup on May 12, 2011 at 7:56 PM

Where’s the naked Meghan McCain Post on Hotair?

Wait, I need a bigger monitor.

Emperor Norton on May 12, 2011 at 7:42 PM

Naked you say….?

Tim_CA on May 12, 2011 at 8:03 PM

Romney is the only adult in the race.

Chudi on May 12, 2011 at 8:18 PM

There’s a feather in your cap, Chud….. Romney’s gonna eject any minute now.

He’s Red Six, and like ol’ Porkins. he can’t hold it.

Eject Red Six!!! Eject!!!!!

I can hold it!!! aaaaahhhhhh! booom…. the not-winning kind.

rightwingyahooo on May 12, 2011 at 8:40 PM

Brown is being a MA republican. I expect nothing less from him.

ladyingray on May 12, 2011 at 8:40 PM

Chudi on May 12, 2011 at 8:18 PM

Mitt needs to leave the room and allow the real deep thinkers to decide how the GOp is going to win next year. Mitt is like the teenage that just wrecked the car. His driving privilages need to be curtailed until he shows enough maturity to handle the responsibility of defeating Obama. So far he has been an epic fail.

unseen on May 12, 2011 at 8:42 PM

I guess Jim Talent doesn’t work for NRO?

All the Republicans are not mocking Romney. Not the ones who took the time to listen or read his plan.

A Conflict of Visions
By Jim Talent
What is the proper role of government in our free society? Two contrasting visions are on display in the differences between Obamacare and the health-care reforms proposed by Gov. Mitt Romney today in Michigan.

Governor Romney is an unabashed American exceptionalist. He believes the perils America currently faces were largely caused by government, and that the dynamic character of American society — its energy, charity, discipline, and willingness to innovate and take risks — will create a better country if freed from the burden imposed by excessive government. President Obama believes in the power of government to mold and improve society. Accordingly, he wants to increase the size, scope, and power of government, especially the federal government in Washington, D.C.

petunia on May 12, 2011 at 8:44 PM

All the Republicans are not mocking Romney

Two out of three ain’t bad.

Emperor Norton on May 12, 2011 at 9:13 PM

Mark Steyn just said “Pawlenty-Bachmann” on Hannity’s show. Not because they are the perfect candidates, not the most conservative, but because they don’t have too much baggage and are conservative enough and can beat little Bammie. Not an endorsement, a prediction.

slickwillie2001 on May 12, 2011 at 9:14 PM

Mark Steyn just said “Pawlenty-Bachmann” on Hannity’s show. Not because they are the perfect candidates, not the most conservative, but because they don’t have too much baggage and are conservative enough and can beat little Bammie. Not an endorsement, a prediction.

slickwillie2001 on May 12, 2011 at 9:14 PM

pretty bad prediction since two people from the same state can’t be on the same ticket. the pundits show they are stupid every time they open their mouths.

unseen on May 12, 2011 at 9:26 PM

Pawlenty, or Bachmann, or Cain.

rightwingyahooo on May 12, 2011 at 7:21 PM

Yes we Cain!!
Take it back 2012!

LoneStarGal on May 12, 2011 at 9:28 PM

slickwillie2001 on May 12, 2011 at 9:14 PM

An amazing guy, Steyn – insanely funny and lethally-informed.

Given the current field……….?

Tim_CA on May 12, 2011 at 9:34 PM

pretty bad prediction since two people from the same state can’t be on the same ticket. the pundits show they are stupid every time they open their mouths.

unseen on May 12, 2011 at 9:26 PM

I’m assuming we’re talking POTUS not the ticket…?

Tim_CA on May 12, 2011 at 9:38 PM

Governor Romney is an unabashed American exceptionalist.

Good for him. So am I.

He believes the perils America currently faces were largely caused by government…

Right. That’s why he engineered the prototype to Obamacare.

rrpjr on May 12, 2011 at 9:48 PM

Mark Steyn just said “Pawlenty-Bachmann” on Hannity’s show.

I’ll buy that for a dollar. Let Michelle move to ND for 8 years….

rightwingyahooo on May 12, 2011 at 9:59 PM

Who is this Scott Brown you speak of?

j_galt on May 12, 2011 at 10:23 PM

It’s not that Brown repaying a favor is the problem, but this is just another in a long line of Democrat-lite moves.

wheelgun on May 12, 2011 at 10:35 PM

Who is this Scott Brown you speak of?

The clown RINO Massachusetts Senator. He believes that photo shopped pictures of OBL, that appeared on the internet, are real.

wraithby on May 12, 2011 at 11:10 PM

I’m assuming we’re talking POTUS not the ticket…?

Tim_CA on May 12, 2011 at 9:38 PM

No, under the Constitution the President and Vice-President have to be from different states. There was a bit of a controversy about that with W and Cheney, with the latter claiming Colorado as his state of residence.

ebrown2 on May 13, 2011 at 7:25 AM