Quotes of the day

posted at 10:40 pm on May 12, 2011 by Allahpundit

“The debate is unlikely ever to be settled. But multiple U.S. intelligence officials told Reuters the real breakthrough that led to bin Laden came from a mysterious CIA detainee named Hassan Ghul. Ghul, who was not captured until 2004 at the earliest, was not subjected to waterboarding, the CIA’s roughest and most controversial interrogation technique. It had already been phased out by the time he was captured. But two U.S. officials acknowledged he may well have been subjected to other coercive CIA tactics, possibly including stress positions, sleep deprivation and being slammed into a wall.

“It was Ghul, the officials said, who after years of tantalizing hints from other detainees finally provided the information that prompted the CIA to focus intensely on finding Abu Ahmed al Kuwaiti, pseudonym for the courier who would lead them to bin Laden…

“Leaving Ghul aside, it remains unclear whether the brutal interrogations — which Obama banned upon taking office — were effective or not.

“The available facts, bolstered by evidence from secret Guantanamo detainee files made public by the WikiLeaks organization, suggest that some of the first information U.S. intelligence received about Abu Ahmed al Kuwaiti surfaced in 2002, when the harshest elements of the CIA interrogation program were still in force.”

***
“Three of Osama bin Laden’s wives have been interrogated by U.S. intelligence officers under the supervision of Pakistani’s intelligence service, according to sources in both governments.

“The women — who were all interviewed together — were ‘hostile’ toward the Americans, according to a senior Pakistani government official with direct knowledge of the post-bin Laden investigation and two senior U.S. officials with direct knowledge of the matter. The eldest of the three wives spoke for the group…

“All three officials said that the interrogation didn’t yield much new information, while adding that it was early in the process.”

***
“Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who calls himself the mastermind of the attacks in which planes crashed into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, seemed to be busy conjuring up many plots before his capture, according to the documents. Telling interrogators that al Qaeda had planned to create a ‘nuclear hell storm,’ Mohammed gave up a chilling laundry list of attacks in the works…

“Faris also was crucial to Mohammed’s plan to destroy the Brooklyn Bridge by cutting the suspension cables, according to the documents…

“Al Qaeda abandoned the plan, calling the weather ‘too hot,’ meaning there was too much security on the bridge for the plan to go forward. But Kelly said the plan to cut the cables, using special blowtorches, could have been implemented if an attacker had gotten into a security room where the cables are anchored…

“And in the category of failed plots, the documents say the self-proclaimed enemy of the United States noted that because he did not hit the White House during September 11 attacks, as he planned, he would ‘somehow try to attack the White House again one day, due to its symbolic value to America.’

***
“I asked CIA Director Leon Panetta for the facts, and he told me the following: The trail to bin Laden did not begin with a disclosure from Khalid Sheik Mohammed, who was waterboarded 183 times. The first mention of Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti — the nickname of the al-Qaeda courier who ultimately led us to bin Laden — as well as a description of him as an important member of al-Qaeda, came from a detainee held in another country, who we believe was not tortured. None of the three detainees who were waterboarded provided Abu Ahmed’s real name, his whereabouts or an accurate description of his role in al-Qaeda.

“In fact, the use of ‘enhanced interrogation techniques’ on Khalid Sheik Mohammed produced false and misleading information. He specifically told his interrogators that Abu Ahmed had moved to Peshawar, got married and ceased his role as an al-Qaeda facilitator — none of which was true. According to the staff of the Senate intelligence committee, the best intelligence gained from a CIA detainee — information describing Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti’s real role in al-Qaeda and his true relationship to bin Laden — was obtained through standard, noncoercive means…

“As we debate how the United States can best influence the course of the Arab Spring, can’t we all agree that the most obvious thing we can do is stand as an example of a nation that holds an individual’s human rights as superior to the will of the majority or the wishes of government?”


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“The women — who were all interviewed together —…”

Ummmmmmmmmmmm…

… That is NOT how you obtain information.

Seven Percent Solution on May 12, 2011 at 10:44 PM

“The women — who were all interviewed together — were ‘hostile’ toward the Americans, according to a senior Pakistani government official with direct knowledge of the post-bin Laden investigation and two senior U.S. officials with direct knowledge of the matter. The eldest of the three wives spoke for the group…

2 words: Water.Board.

SouthernGent on May 12, 2011 at 10:45 PM

John McCain, CNN’s favorite Republican.

NickDeringer on May 12, 2011 at 10:46 PM

Dear Johnny Mac:

Go away.

You are the GOP Dukakis.

Just go away.

Bruno Strozek on May 12, 2011 at 10:47 PM

Obama did one thing right so far… He gave Osama the ultmate tour of water-boarding.

RalphyBoy on May 12, 2011 at 10:49 PM

The reason EIT’s don’t work is that the ones it is used on know we aren’t going to do them any real harm. They do not fear us.

darwin-t on May 12, 2011 at 10:52 PM

In short, who’s going to be the palooka?
Luckily, you’ve already got him, a candidate who’s tanned, rested, tested, and ready to lose. A man who’s seen both sides now, who’s experienced the E-ticket ride from the heights of media adulation to the depths of ignominious and disgraceful defeat and up again. A hero for our times, who’s fought back from the electoral disaster of 2008 to resume his rightful place among the Talking Heads Elect. The man to whom you owe absolutely nothing for your transient victories in the midterms. The man who, more than anybody else, gave us the glorious reign of the Emperor Hussein.

The man who never saw an aisle he didn’t want to reach across, even if he has to regenerate a new limb or two every few weeks. The fighter pilot with the common touch, who has so many houses, thanks to his rich second wife, that he can’t remember how many there are. A man of peace who never met a war he didn’t want to start, especially if we can bomb the bastards into submission without getting shot down. A man of such political bravery that he’s willing to attack his own side wherever and whenever it’s expedient. A man who takes a licking, likes it, and keeps on licking.

Ladies and gentlemen and Republicans, I give you John McCain.

cynccook on May 12, 2011 at 10:52 PM

“But multiple U.S. intelligence officials told Reuters…”

Hmmm, who to believe, Cheney and Leon Panetta or Reuters’ anonymous sources

elfman on May 12, 2011 at 10:54 PM

can’t we all agree that the most obvious thing we can do is stand as an example of a nation that holds an individual’s human rights as superior to the will of the majority or the wishes of government?”

How did McCain feel about the killing of bin Laden? Which would lead us to the question that’s been asked a lot lately: how is waterboarding reprehensible, but extrajudicially putting two slugs into a guy’s head isn’t?

pseudoforce on May 12, 2011 at 10:55 PM

Anyone see anything about the reward money? I recall Clinton had ‘no comment’ shortly after Osama’s termination but I haven;t seen anything since.

lexhamfox on May 12, 2011 at 10:57 PM

Which would lead us to the question that’s been asked a lot lately: how is waterboarding reprehensible, but extrajudicially putting two slugs into a guy’s head isn’t?

pseudoforce on May 12, 2011 at 10:55 PM

He didn’t surrender.

lexhamfox on May 12, 2011 at 10:58 PM

“The Greatest Story Never Told The Same Way Twice”

Rovin on May 12, 2011 at 10:58 PM

It’s one thing to give honorable service to your country and be a hero, giving up nothing to your enemy while captured and tortured when you could’ve easily secured your release. Quite another to let that experience color your views of what should or should not be done with new enemies who pledge in their prayers each day the destruction of your country and the death of you and your family. Get over it, McCain, and smell the coffee.

TXUS on May 12, 2011 at 11:01 PM

Which would lead us to the question that’s been asked a lot lately: how is waterboarding reprehensible, but extrajudicially putting two slugs into a guy’s head isn’t?

pseudoforce on May 12, 2011 at 10:55 PM

The difference is the party affiliation of the resident of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

darwin-t on May 12, 2011 at 11:01 PM

Which would lead us to the question that’s been asked a lot lately: how is waterboarding reprehensible, but extrajudicially putting two slugs into a guy’s head isn’t?

pseudoforce on May 12, 2011 at 10:55 PM

He didn’t surrender.

lexhamfox on May 12, 2011 at 10:58 PM

But he was unarmed. Let cops do the same thing in a crack house and let’s see how the libs react.

pseudoforce on May 12, 2011 at 11:02 PM

McCain’s two prime constituants seem to be illegal combatants and illegal aliens.

What a stupid f*** this guy is.

Really Right on May 12, 2011 at 11:08 PM

Torture works. Not every time in every situation but it does work. You can attempt to BS your interrogators but you know they are going to ask you things they already know to see if you are lying.

Human nature being what it is, you break down mentally and realize that telling the truth is the easiest way to make the pain stop. Believe it or not, it is hard to lie convincingly when you are under tremendous mental stress.

From what I have read it worked on McCain. He can make his moral argument against it but he is being dishonest when he claims it is not effective.

echosyst on May 12, 2011 at 11:08 PM

“Fight, Fight, Fight with me friends.”——John McCains horrible acceptance speech.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK-HFCId8_M&feature=youtube_gdata_player

If I never hear or see the “you have nothing to fear from an Obama Presidency” Senator from Arizona I’ll be happy!

PappyD61 on May 12, 2011 at 11:13 PM

But he was unarmed. Let cops do the same thing in a crack house and let’s see how the libs react.

pseudoforce on May 12, 2011 at 11:02 PM

There were 3000+ soles packed into the shell casing of the bullet that was pointing at Usama. It’s difficult to keep that much pressure from releasing.

Electrongod on May 12, 2011 at 11:16 PM

sole = soul

Electrongod on May 12, 2011 at 11:18 PM

We would be so much better off if McCain would just act his age and retire.

GaltBlvnAtty on May 12, 2011 at 11:18 PM

Is John McCain quoting the Leon Panetta that said this:

We had multiple series of sources that provided information with regards to this situation… clearly some of it came from detainees [and] they used these enhanced interrogation techniques against some of those detainees.”

Source: http://dailycaller.com/2011/05/03/torturous-evasions/

That Leon Panetta?

drewwerd on May 12, 2011 at 11:18 PM

There were 3000+ soles packed into the shell casing of the bullet that was pointing at Usama. It’s difficult to keep that much pressure from releasing.

Electrongod on May 12, 2011 at 11:16 PM

That’s a bunch of shoes.

darwin-t on May 12, 2011 at 11:19 PM

That’s a bunch of shoes.

darwin-t on May 12, 2011 at 11:19 PM

:) My bad.

Electrongod on May 12, 2011 at 11:20 PM

John McCain’s experiences in a N. Vietnamese prison camp actually disqualify him from ever being POTUS. In a crunch he’d never be able to do the things necessary to keep America safe.

Darvin Dowdy on May 12, 2011 at 11:22 PM

McCain creeps me out.

wheelgun on May 12, 2011 at 11:22 PM

:) My bad.

Electrongod on May 12, 2011 at 11:20 PM

I knew what you meant, I’m just a smart a-s.

darwin-t on May 12, 2011 at 11:25 PM

San Diego area High Tech High rescinded an invite to Barak Obama to give the commencement speech because the students analyzed the “birth certificate” and concluded it was forged (they were initially attempting to confirm authenticity). A snippet:

Schooled! High Tech High Students Expose Flaws in Obama’s Long Form Birth Certificate, Rescind Invitation for President to Speak at Commencement

“You don’t really have to look further than the child’s name,” says Bhangoo. “The way the ‘r’ in ‘Barack’ differs in all sorts of ways from the rest of the letters, the way the green background fades away around certain parts of ‘Hussein’ and ‘Obama.’ It’s a Photoshop job, and not even a particularly careful one. We did a little followup work and found a death certificate for a Herbert Harrison O’Brien from the same hospital, dated August 5, 1961. The date of birth on that death certificate is given as August 4, same as little Barack Hussein Obama. But the funny thing is, there’s no corresponding birth certificate for baby Herbert. Where did it go? And why doesn’t Obama’s mother sign his birth certificate until August 7, three days after her son is born? By then, we were too depressed to dig any deeper.”

Mutnodjmet on May 12, 2011 at 11:30 PM

McUgh

NY Conservative on May 12, 2011 at 11:32 PM

There were 3000+ soles packed into the shell casing of the bullet that was pointing at Usama. It’s difficult to keep that much pressure from releasing.

Electrongod on May 12, 2011 at 11:16 PM

That’s a bunch of shoes.

darwin-t on May 12, 2011 at 11:19 PM

Dubya would’ve ducked it. (Sorry, couldn’t resist.)

pseudoforce on May 12, 2011 at 11:36 PM

A part of me is happy that Mc@&#$! wasn’t President…for Palin’s sake. Palin would be like Clinton today. Looking at Dear Leader and thinkin’..WTF?

Electrongod on May 12, 2011 at 11:37 PM

““In fact, the use of ‘enhanced interrogation techniques’ on Khalid Sheik Mohammed produced false and misleading information…”

They weren’t doing it right…

(slight content warning)

/

Seven Percent Solution on May 12, 2011 at 11:39 PM

If I never hear or see the “you have nothing to fear from an Obama Presidency” Senator from Arizona I’ll be happy!

PappyD61 on May 12, 2011 at 11:13 PM

I will never, never forgive John McCain for that 2008 campaign. I will always blame him for having Obama in the Oval Office.

He was a courageous, unselfish soldier…but a terrible, horrific campaigner.
If I NEVER hear “my friends” from him again, I’ll die a happy person.

tencole on May 12, 2011 at 11:42 PM

The Justice Department better not let those women walk away with a slap on the wrist. They knowingly aided and abetted an international fugitive for almost a decade. They should all spend the rest of their lives in a supermax prison.

Mike Honcho on May 12, 2011 at 11:45 PM

McCain. I can’t believe I ever voted for him. Almost as if he senses when the Donks need some extra help.

hawkdriver on May 12, 2011 at 11:59 PM

McCain. I can’t believe I ever voted for him. Almost as if he senses when the Donks need some extra help.

hawkdriver on May 12, 2011 at 11:59 PM

Spot on.

Bruno Strozek on May 13, 2011 at 12:04 AM

Actually, I think the Dims ask him. Leon calls him up and says listen we need some cover (and maybe need to change our story a little) on the “torture” meme…and he says…How can I help?

r keller on May 13, 2011 at 12:08 AM

I’m just a smart a-s.

darwin-t on May 12, 2011 at 11:25 PM

That’s why no one ever sends a donkey to college. No one likes a smart a-s.

John the Libertarian on May 13, 2011 at 12:13 AM

I’m so sick of this guy. Why doesn’t he go away?

Mirimichi on May 13, 2011 at 12:19 AM

Why do they keep insisting on the “Arab Spring”?

Where is it?

Schadenfreude on May 13, 2011 at 12:20 AM

Name one people who are free, due to Obama (please don’t list the Black Panthers).

Schadenfreude on May 13, 2011 at 12:21 AM

McCain is incontinent, in the pants and in the mouth.

Schadenfreude on May 13, 2011 at 12:22 AM

You know John, even if you believed this to be true, why help the other party by saying it?Just shut up and go away….

sandee on May 13, 2011 at 12:23 AM

Family visitations for Gitmo.

Winning the Future (WtF) baby!

Schadenfreude on May 13, 2011 at 12:24 AM

I’m so sick of this guy. Why doesn’t he go away?

Mirimichi on May 13, 2011 at 12:19 AM

Because everyone in Arizona (and on Hot Air) said JD Hayworth was too weird or something or too Conservative or a crook or something. Never heard the particulars, but they said he couldn’t win and McCain would be better.

Anyway, even if McCain had lost the election, he’d still have come back to help out his liberal buddies when they really needed it. He’s voting like a Republican at least.

hawkdriver on May 13, 2011 at 12:25 AM

Liberals are really stupid people or charlatans who think themselves geniuses. Conservatives are stupid, ignorant, smart, or indifferent. There is a huge difference.

pat on May 13, 2011 at 12:27 AM

TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 113C > § 2340

§ 2340. Definitions
How Current is This?
As used in this chapter—
(1) “torture” means an act committed by a person acting under the color of law specifically intended to inflict severe physical or mental pain or suffering (other than pain or suffering incidental to lawful sanctions) upon another person within his custody or physical control;
(2) “severe mental pain or suffering” means the prolonged mental harm caused by or resulting from—
(A) the intentional infliction or threatened infliction of severe physical pain or suffering;
(B) the administration or application, or threatened administration or application, of mind-altering substances or other procedures calculated to disrupt profoundly the senses or the personality;
(C) the threat of imminent death; or
(D) the threat that another person will imminently be subjected to death, severe physical pain or suffering, or the administration or application of mind-altering substances or other procedures calculated to disrupt profoundly the senses or personality; and
(3) “United States” means the several States of the United States, the District of Columbia, and the commonwealths, territories, and possessions of the United States.

Conspicuously absent, the term, water boarding.
Words like severe and profound, yes. But for who?
We can set up a horse shoe ambush and watch as the enemy with no chance of escape, terrified out of their minds, run around in circles until they’re shredded, but we can’t scare or intimidate or disorient the hardened global terrorist to save American lives?

With all due respect to John, which is immense in this issue, he is understandably biased, to the ninth degree.

If such a thing as a time machine existed, there’s thousands who would water board to save their now lost loved ones, with no remorse.

That’s the thing, its a fine principle until innocent people get hurt.
Or, saved.

Speakup on May 13, 2011 at 12:29 AM

I’m more sick of these self-launching ads and the lag in load time on Hot Air. Thanks, Salem!

John the Libertarian on May 13, 2011 at 12:30 AM

Herman Cain on Bill Bennet today, the guy is the real deal.

commodore on May 13, 2011 at 12:33 AM

I’m more sick of these self-launching ads and the lag in load time on Hot Air. Thanks, Salem!

John the Libertarian on May 13, 2011 at 12:30 AM

Foxfire has tools to kill them. I tried it and it works but Foxfire makes it impossible to log into military accounts like AKO. It does work though.

hawkdriver on May 13, 2011 at 12:33 AM

Herman Cain on Bill Bennet today, the guy is the real deal.

commodore on May 13, 2011 at 12:33 AM

I like Herman Cain. I’m not sure who I’m throw my support behind if we had to pick today, but so far, I just really like Cain.

hawkdriver on May 13, 2011 at 12:35 AM

OT – president Gutsybama got hammered, by Krauthammer.

The El Paso speech is notable not for breaking any new ground on immigration but for perfectly illustrating Obama’s political style: the professorial, almost therapeutic, invitation to civil discourse, wrapped around the basest of rhetorical devices — charges of malice compounded with accusations of bad faith. “They’ll never be satisfied,” said Obama about border control. “And I understand that. That’s politics.”

How understanding. The other side plays “politics,” Obama acts in the public interest. Their eyes are on poll numbers, political power, the next election; Obama’s rest fixedly on the little children.

Schadenfreude on May 13, 2011 at 12:36 AM

who “I’d” …

hawkdriver on May 13, 2011 at 12:36 AM

John McCain is the Leopold “Butters” Stoch of politics.

amynorw on May 13, 2011 at 12:36 AM

John the Libertarian on May 13, 2011 at 12:30 AM

Some security software has popup blockers that work well, you just copy the url and paste it in the add list.

Kaspersky is one.

Speakup on May 13, 2011 at 12:38 AM

But he was unarmed. Let cops do the same thing in a crack house and let’s see how the libs react.

pseudoforce on May 12, 2011 at 11:02 PM

Bin Laden was a known dangerous terrorist, not a crack dealer.

His compound could have been wired to explode, killing all.

“Unarmed” is something you cannot determine with terrorists whose aim is to sucker you into a false sense of security and then kill you.

It was not an LA or NY crackhouse.

The SEALs are not cops.

This was not a felony investigation, but a military operation against a self-admitted war criminal.

Caution by the troops is paramount for their survival when confronting a dangerous terrorist.

They acted prudently and Bin Laden is better off consigned to Hell.

Your line of reasoning is unreasonable.

profitsbeard on May 13, 2011 at 12:44 AM

Your line of reasoning is unreasonable.

profitsbeard on May 13, 2011 at 12:44 AM

Sure, being the lib — or maybe moderate (same thing) line of reasoning. Good grief, the statement wasn’t that complicated.

pseudoforce on May 13, 2011 at 12:57 AM

Considering his years as a POW, it is easy to understand Sen. McCain desire to separate his countries procedures from those he was subjected to but he goes too far. I’m not really sure who he’s trying to convince.

Cindy Munford on May 13, 2011 at 1:00 AM

country’s procedures. So sorry.

Cindy Munford on May 13, 2011 at 1:08 AM

Considering his years as a POW, it is easy to understand Sen. McCain desire to separate his countries procedures from those he was subjected to but he goes too far. I’m not really sure who he’s trying to convince.

Cindy Munford on May 13, 2011 at 1:00 AM

Well said. I feel for his time as a POW, but really, what was done to him is not anything remotely close to what we do to these guys.

hawkdriver on May 13, 2011 at 1:13 AM

John Sidney McCain III (Capt, USN (Ret)) suffers from PTSD due to the living hell he experienced in Viet Nam.

EVERYTHING is colored by that experience. End of discussion.

In the SAME manner as a victim of child/adolescent long term sexual abuse may take years or even DECADES to realize that sex is not bad/evil simply because someone used it as a form of power or control over them so too does McCain view ANY rough interrogation through his own torture lens.

I make both these statements from real factual experience: that of my own struggles with PTSD and those of the woman I care so very much for’s long slow recovery from a horrible childhood upbringing by pieces of garbage that don’t qualify as parents.

Senator McCain I value our respect for human life and human decency as much as the next man. But if it is a choice between the life of my girlfriend (secretary at a high profile armory) , my step-mother(DIA), or my best friend (US Army Enlisted) who is heading to the battlefield yet again versus that of a suspected terrorist being psychologically screwed up for a little while- I will ALWAYS pick the lives of those I love, those AMERICANS I care for, over the health and well being of a hadji sh!t-head that wants to take them from this Earth.

SgtSVJones on May 13, 2011 at 1:25 AM

SgtSVJones on May 13, 2011 at 1:25 AM

Also well said.

hawkdriver on May 13, 2011 at 1:29 AM

Mutnodjmet on May 12, 2011 at 11:30 PM

The link goes to a fake news site.

alwaysfiredup on May 13, 2011 at 1:41 AM

I’m going to have to be a LOT more careful about coming here if ads keep auto-playing! It’s especially frustrating because you never know which ad it is, and the mute button does not work! In this case, it was an airwick commercial right under the Micheal Savage ad, just above the facebook widget.

I’m dead certain, Ed, that you spec ‘no auto-play’ to your agencies, but I figure you need to know when an advertiser is cheating.

I hope I don’t have to conclude that HA is not safe for being on a client site or a sleeping family. I have to come to your site to get the HA feed link for clients, but will have to stop putting HA in feeds for my clients if it’s getting other folks at work in trouble.

ElRonaldo on May 13, 2011 at 1:41 AM

Hell, skip waterboarding and go right to snakes, spiders, and rats – before being buried alive in a coffin for a few hours.

Then more snakes, spiders and rats.

And if that doesn’t work, put them in a 10 feet deep latrine actively used by our troops for a week or so.

CIA – call me for more ideas.

fred5678 on May 13, 2011 at 2:38 AM

I actually had a fake virus alert pop up on here yesterday as well as 2 audio ads on this thread come on at the same time. Annoying as hell!! Make it stop!!

tbear44 on May 13, 2011 at 3:01 AM

What’s with the multiple auto play ads????

Gohawgs on May 13, 2011 at 3:48 AM

One solution to the auto play ads is to mute the computer’s speakers before loggin onto HA…

Gohawgs on May 13, 2011 at 4:00 AM

What’s with the multiple auto play ads????

Gohawgs on May 13, 2011 at 3:48 AM

Get Firefox 4.0 and add Adblock…

OmahaConservative on May 13, 2011 at 4:42 AM

Mornin’ OC…

I have both kinds of music OS, IE and Firefox…I usually open up IE out of habit…

Gohawgs on May 13, 2011 at 4:50 AM

Mornin…
I only open IE for the updates.

OmahaConservative on May 13, 2011 at 4:53 AM

How’s Omaha? Last workday this week, then you can sleep an hour or so later…

Gohawgs on May 13, 2011 at 5:00 AM

Gohawgs on May 13, 2011 at 3:48 AM

One at a time is bad enough, but having an echo is beyond annoying… I don’t want to have to mute my speakers before coming to HA since I’d be doing that off and on *all* day, lol!

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on May 13, 2011 at 5:05 AM

Gohawgs on May 13, 2011 at 5:00 AM

Cold. 50 degrees. I have a ten AM funeral Saturday morning in Red Oak IA. No sleeping in for me…

OmahaConservative on May 13, 2011 at 5:09 AM

Aslans Girl on May 13, 2011 at 5:05 AM

Yep, it took awhile for me to figure out that the same two ads were running at different spots on the page…

Gohawgs on May 13, 2011 at 5:14 AM

OmahaConservative on May 13, 2011 at 5:09 AM

Sorry to hear about the funeral. Hope it doesn’t rain…

Gohawgs on May 13, 2011 at 5:16 AM

Yep, it took awhile for me to figure out that the same two ads were running at different spots on the page…

Gohawgs on May 13, 2011 at 5:14 AM

Sounds annoying!

Sorry to hear about the funeral. Hope it doesn’t rain…

Gohawgs on May 13, 2011 at 5:16 AM

I think it is supposed to…

OmahaConservative on May 13, 2011 at 5:20 AM

It was annoying and I blame Ed and his jet lag…

Gohawgs on May 13, 2011 at 5:27 AM

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on May 13, 2011 at 5:05 AM

This ain’t your MM’s Hot Air any longer…

OmahaConservative on May 13, 2011 at 5:28 AM

Dear Johnny Mac:

Go away.

You are the GOP Dukakis.

Just go away.

Bruno Strozek on May 12, 2011 at 10:47 PM

Naw, he’s not the GOP Dukakis. Dukakis never crashed his tank.

Don L on May 13, 2011 at 6:05 AM

“The women — who were all interviewed together —…”

Interrogation 101. You don’t interview people as a group.

JellyToast on May 13, 2011 at 6:19 AM

Jelly heh-I was just about to post the same thing. If that is true then that is pathetic.

“As we debate how the United States can best influence the course of the Arab Spring, can’t we all agree that the most obvious thing we can do is stand as an example of a nation that holds an individual’s human rights as superior to the will of the majority or the wishes of government?”

So we will just go in and shoot them in the head.

Maybe we can start right now at GITMO?/sarc

CWforFreedom on May 13, 2011 at 6:41 AM

Three of Osama bin Laden’s wives have been interrogated by U.S. intelligence officers under the supervision of Pakistani’s intelligence service, according to sources in both governments.

The women — who were all interviewed together

Kid gloves will not yield results.

With women of certain cultures, it may sometimes be useful to conduct interviews in tandem in order to maximize the effect of shame. Usually those sessions start with making the subject disrobe herself so as to immediately induce the subliminal feeling, and set the stage for the remainder of the session- and more importantly for the rest of her life when recalling the interview, that she willing submitted herself to the impending, sure to be uncomfortable, process.

Somehow I doubt they they referred to the time tested information extraction techniques of the Pyle doctrine.

Alden Pyle on May 13, 2011 at 7:00 AM

mccain

*grumble, grumble, grumble*

cmsinaz on May 13, 2011 at 7:10 AM

hawkdriver on May 13, 2011 at 1:13 AM

agree HD

cmsinaz on May 13, 2011 at 7:11 AM

If McCain were POTUS we’d still be negotiating with “our friendsh the Pakistanis” trying to get permission to conduct the raid. And of course it’d be too late. Bin Laden would be long gone. DD

Darvin Dowdy on May 13, 2011 at 7:21 AM

“What are you prepared to do?!”
- Jimmy Malone, Treasury Agent, Chicago

Hening on May 13, 2011 at 7:47 AM

Mukasey fires back at McCain:
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/267149/mukasey-fires-back-mccain-andrew-c-mccarthy

onlineanalyst on May 13, 2011 at 7:55 AM

John McCain seems to have acquired Meghan McCain disease: Say anything to get your mug on TV.

ctmom on May 13, 2011 at 8:18 AM

Mornin…
I only open IE for the updates.

OmahaConservative on May 13, 2011 at 4:53 AM

That’s the only thing it’s needed for.

slickwillie2001 on May 13, 2011 at 8:22 AM

Muslims believe the devil sleeps in your nose at night.
They have a ritual for washing the devil out of their nostrils in the morning.
I would imagine KSM has a lot of devil in his nose.
One would think waterboarding might help with the whole purification process and be applauded by all.

Disturb the Universe on May 13, 2011 at 8:26 AM

he would ‘somehow try to attack the White House again one day, due to its symbolic value to America.’

Considering the current occupant of the White House, I’d say this ship has sailed.

CantCureStupid on May 13, 2011 at 8:48 AM

“As we debate how the United States can best influence the course of the Arab Spring, can’t we all agree that the most obvious thing we can do is stand as an example of a nation that holds an individual’s human rights as superior to the will of the majority or the wishes of government?”

Baloney. Arabs, no matter what side of the ‘Arab Spring’ they’re fighting on, don’t give a crunchy fig about an individual’s human rights. They’re all about power. They respect, and respond to, power. Things like an individual’s human rights isn’t going to stop them in their tracks and make them think. So, no, we can’t all agree that the most obvious thing to do is get squishy with Arabs on a concept that about 10 or 11 centuries ahead of them – at best.

joejm65 on May 13, 2011 at 8:52 AM

Has anyone ever asked this American hating rhino why he hates this country so much. Was it because of what happened to him in the war. He made the decision to go into the military or does he blame America for that as well.

pwb on May 13, 2011 at 9:19 AM

“The women — who were all interviewed together — were ‘hostile’ toward the Americans, according to a senior Pakistani government official with direct knowledge of the post-bin Laden investigation and two senior U.S. officials with direct knowledge of the matter. The eldest of the three wives spoke for the group…

2 words: Water.Board. Retention.

SouthernGent on May 12, 2011 at 10:45 PM

FIFY

(sorry, ladies, I couldn’t resist. Standing by for incoming)

TugboatPhil on May 13, 2011 at 9:33 AM

Liberal morality rules while a Democrat is President:

Water boarding under Repub: Evil

Two in the head from close range while unarmed & in undies under Dem: Heroic

Loud sounds, sleep deprivation, etc under Repub: Evil

Being blown to bits by a hellfire missile fired from a drone under Dem: Courageous

Gitmo under Repub: Evil, illegal torture chamber

Gitmo under Dem: Where? What? Huh?

Liberalism is a mental disorder that’s going to destroy much of the Western World if not stopped.

TheBigOldDog on May 13, 2011 at 11:32 AM

As bad as Obama is (every time McCain talks I think) America did not make that big a mistake

pwb on May 13, 2011 at 9:20 PM