Then there are the people who just shrug their shoulders and point out that they give tours to the site of the atomic bomb tests, north of Las Vegas.

Yoop on May 11, 2011 at 2:34 PM

That to me, is so hilarious.
BTW-I confess IDK about the waste’s properties that they’re talking about here.
Can someone comment on that?
What kind of waste, contamination, etc are we really talking about here?
Just bcs something is ‘radioactive’ doesn’t mean it’s bad.
So what’s really the deal with this stuff they were storing there?

Obama: Shut down the only currently viable waste repository and ended any plans to build new nuclear power plants for the foreseeable future.

Obama’s support of nuclear power is all lip service and illusion and no substance. His goal is to send us into the next ice age by orchestrating an end to cheap and abundant energy. He really meant it when he said that energy costs would necessarily skyrocket under his leadership, because that is the master plan. Science has nothing to do with it. Logic has nothing to do with it. Economics has nothing to do with it. It is simply a blind devotion to radical environmentalism that has been burned into his progressive brain by liberal educators.

I’m shocked, shocked I tell you!.

Of course the Republicans will never adequately investigate the ongoing criminal enterprise that is the Obama Administration because it wouldn’t look nice.

Poll: Obama ahead in six key states

Bad news is bad news, even this early.

Nearly Nobody on May 11, 2011 at 12:05 PM

Never accept polls at face value. The methodology here is completely flawed, so the conclusions drawn are erroneous and misleading.

Poll: Obama ahead in six key states

Bad news is bad news, even this early.

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IS THIS kinda like the headline on DRUDGE today which reads:

OBAMA HITS 60% APPROVAL!!!*

*(ap poll sample skews to democrats by 17 points)…
http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/266932/latest-ap-poll-sample-skews-democrats-17-points

. Most of the active volcanism has shifted to the northwest as the subduction zone off of Oregon and Washington became the dominate active structure acting as a ‘rock melter’.

Well that would be the FIRST time in history that heat melted rock.

/rosie

So basically then Obama is a political whore on this one.

Badger40 on May 11, 2011 at 2:21 PM

Obama is a Democrat, so that is a given. But then again, so is Reid.

There are a lot of people in Nevada who are against using Yucca Mountain as a repository. A good number of them were stirred up by outside sources.

Then there are the people who just shrug their shoulders and point out that they give tours to the site of the atomic bomb tests, north of Las Vegas.

If you were to place the repository in Yellowstone, and if the mega-volcano blew it’s top, the dispersal of the hot waste would hardly be noticed, when considered in the light of the total dispersion of rock dust. ;-)

Yoop on May 11, 2011 at 1:56 PM

Thanks for the info.
It’s always good to get the facts.
So basically then Obama is a political whore on this one.
And there’s no real reason to waste everything that’s been done so far.

Hey Yoop?
You out there?
What’s your professional opinion on Yucca Mountain?

Badger40 on May 11, 2011 at 12:37 PM

Quaternary volcanism.
I think there’s probably better options for nuclear waste in the world than Yucca Mntn.

Badger40 on May 11, 2011 at 12:40 PM

Ah, yep, here I be.

When Yucca Mountain was started up as a project a couple of the mining engineers I had worked with took jobs out there. Later a number of other engineers that I had contact with cycled in and out of that project as consultants. I was aware of some of the technical issues because of those connections.

I also spent some time beating the desert west and east of there during the last big gold rush in Nevada in the 80′s. I am familiar with the stability of the rock type and the rock mechanics of the openings.

My opinion is that Yucca Mountain was a reasonable site. One thing people seem to fail to consider, beyond the stability of the region, is the potential impact on the water table. That problem is minimal there when compared to other potential sites.

Although there is always some small chance of a resurgence of volcanism in that area of the basin and range, I wouldn’t put that very high on the list as a problem. Most of the active volcanism has shifted to the northwest as the subduction zone off of Oregon and Washington became the dominate active structure acting as a ‘rock melter’.

A potential problem does exist when considering future seismic events of the type experienced in the basin and range region. Historically they have been decreasing in intensity as the major active structures migrated westward to California. Opening configuration and ground support was designed to address that issue.

There are areas within the stable craton that could be considered and would lessen the chance of problems associated with seismic events and volcanic events. In the plains, east of the Rockies, is the best area as far as stability is concerned. But, then the consideration of the potential impact on water tables and vast regional aquifers is significant. No way you would sell a repository in those areas.

If you were to place the repository in Yellowstone, and if the mega-volcano blew it’s top, the dispersal of the hot waste would hardly be noticed, when considered in the light of the total dispersion of rock dust. ;-)

Then Mr. Hahvahd shut down Yucca Mountain based on… nothing. First he killed gas, now electricity. Does he expect to power the world with the rainbows he shoots out of his tush?

Breeder Reactors (invented by the USA) and successor technologies ….like most of the rest of the world does!!!

landlines on May 11, 2011 at 12:51 PM

What does a breeder reactor breed?

A breeder reactor is a nuclear reactor that generates more fissile material in fuel than it consumes

Breeders aren’t the solution.

Badger40 on May 11, 2011 at 12:37 PM

You must also consider the form of the material that would be stored there. Unlike the pools at power plants where the fuel is stored now, at Yucca it would processed into a stable storage form like this. Vitrification is actually pretty cool mostly because it’s not leachable, thereby protecting the ground water. (But we’re not supposed to talk about solutions for that.)

If the concerns are geological, meaning that Yucca is susceptible to earthquakes and such, then the site is probably nearly perfect for storing exceptionally dangerous stuff. Suppose the cave collapses in an earthquake. Oooooo…..bad joojoo, eh? Nope. In the sealed caskets, the stuff would be just as stable as it was before, and now nearly impossible to steal without a huge mining operation.

Another option is to drill way, way down into a subducting tectonic plate, drop the waste in, then seal the hole. In a million years or so, the stuff returns “to the fire from whence it came”.

Obama administration rushed to protect Harry Reid for his re-election campaign last year, at the risk of the nuclear-power industry and taxpayers

David Horowitz, among others, points out that when it comes to a choice between country and party, international leftists always put party ahead of country. They are socialists first, and Americans second.

They’re also the enemy within.

Think of the cost savings of not having to buy or feed the alligators in that proposed moat! Dump the waste in strips along the border and put up signs saying,”If you enter, you WILL die!”

(My apologies to Jerry Pournelle: http://www.larryniven.net/stories/roentgen.shtml )

“Several DOE officials told us that they had never seen such a large program with so much pressure to close down so quickly,”

There’s that nagging little voice again in my head. The one that says,

“Obama want’s America to fail.”

Go away little voice! I won’t believe in conspiracies!

This stupidity, driven by the anti-nuke wing of the Democrat party, causes us to pay forever for storing nuclear waste, rather than renewing and recycling it using Breeder Reactors (invented by the USA) and successor technologies ….like most of the rest of the world does!!!

angryed on May 11, 2011 at 12:43 PM

excellent question….