Quotes of the day

posted at 10:42 pm on May 10, 2011 by Allahpundit

“As governor, Palin demonstrated many of the qualities we expect in our best leaders. She set aside private concerns for the greater good, forgoing a focus on social issues to confront the great problem plaguing Alaska, its corrupt oil-and-gas politics. She did this in a way that seems wildly out of character today—by cooperating with Democrats and moderate Republicans to raise taxes on Big Business. And she succeeded to a remarkable extent in settling, at least for a time, what had seemed insoluble problems, in the process putting Alaska on a trajectory to financial well-being. Since 2008, Sarah Palin has influenced her party, and the tenor of its politics, perhaps more than any other Republican, but in a way that is almost the antithesis of what she did in Alaska. Had she stayed true to her record, she might have pointed her party in a very different direction…

“While other states reel under staggering deficits, budget cuts, and protests, Alaska has built up a $12 billion surplus, most of it attributable to Palin’s tax. Galvin estimates that it has raised $8 billion more than Murkowski’s tax would have. But given the corruption that plagued the PPT, a better benchmark might be the tax it supplanted — the one put on the books after the Exxon Valdez spill. By that measure, Palin’s major achievement has probably meant the difference between a $12 billion surplus and a deficit.

“What happened to Sarah Palin? How did someone who so effectively dealt with the two great issues vexing Alaska fall from grace so quickly? Anyone looking back at her record can’t help but wonder: How did a popular, reformist governor beloved by Democrats come to embody right-wing resentment?…

“Where true Palinism could be most productively applied is on the issues consuming Washington right now: debt and deficits. Palin’s achievement was to pull Alaska out of a dire, corrupt, enduring systemic crisis and return it to fiscal health and prosperity when many people believed that such a thing was impossible. She did this not by hewing to any ideological extreme but by setting a pragmatic course, applying a rigorous practicality to a set of problems that had seemed impervious to solution. She challenged supposedly inviolable political precepts, and embraced more-nuanced realities: Republicans sometimes must confront powerful business interests; to govern effectively, you have to cooperate with the other side; you sometimes must raise taxes to balance a budget; and doing these things can actually enhance rather than destroy your career, whatever anybody says. True reform — not pandering to the base — established Palin’s broad popularity in Alaska. This approach is sorely absent from most of what happens in Washington these days.”

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“Alas, as [Yuval] Levin suggested might happen and as Green says has happened, Palin came almost immediately to inhabit a different role in the American body politic—not the ‘maverick’ she was chosen to be by the self-proclaimed maverick McCain, but rather as a populist villain-victim (depending on which side you were on). The fault here lay not with her attackers but within her. She embarrassed herself in two interviews, and decided the blame lay not with her own ill-preparedness but with the media that had come after her. Understandably enraged by the misogynistic and practically psychotic attacks on her, she came to embrace her status as a kind of martyr for the social-conservative views that had not been the truly distinguishing features of her meteoric political career up to that moment. She found herself in Harry Truman’s kitchen, and she couldn’t take the heat.

“In some ways, the story of Palin is a story of temptation. Rather than sticking to her guns and deepening her political credentials and her knowledge base, she embraced her celebrity instead. And in doing so, she didn’t defeat her critics and enemies; she capitulated to them. Listen, it’s her life and her fortune and she is free to do what she wishes with it. And there’s no telling what the future holds for anyone in America. But she had and has more raw political talent than anyone I’ve ever seen, and, alas, as phenoms go, it looks like she is headed for a Darryl Strawberry-like playing career.”

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“[W]hile Green’s piece may be a bit more sympathetic than, say, the dishonest sleaze put out by Michael Joseph Gross last September or what’s coming next from Joe McGinnis, it’s just the other end of the same continuum. In every case, Palin is a failure in need of explanation. In some cases that’s semi-thoughtful, if politically slanted as here, and in others it’s Joe McGinnis comparing her to Hitler on national TV. It’s the difference between feeding the dog Kibbles and red meat.

“I had a look over my archives and noticed the number of threats Palin has endured in the last 12 months. Remember the envelope of white powder sent to Dancing with the Stars? How about the death threats she received in the wake of the media’s execrable coverage of her Facebook map? How about the stalker who’d threatened to kill her family and was found by the FBI about 50 miles from her house.

“And that’s just the serious stuff. I’m leaving out all the endless nonsense like the big splash when Sarah Palin’s daughter fixed her hair in Haiti. That was an international news story believe it or not. Ah well, just move on to the next attack. Did you know that Trig isn’t really her baby?! Maybe Joshua Green can write a 3,000 word piece about how Palin, a victim of her own hubris, failed to overcome the Trig-truthers when she had the chance. There’s at least one more Alaska vacation in it for some enterprising journalist.”


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Here is a GOP primary schedule that I saw today. I’m not sure how accurate it is though.

chief on May 10, 2011 at 11:34 PM

chief:Checking my 2012 Election file,correct you are!
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http://www.2012presidentialelectionnews.com/2012-debate-schedule/2011-2012-primary-debate-schedule/

canopfor on May 10, 2011 at 11:41 PM

If fiscal sanity is the road not taken, then the country will be in deep trouble.

Paul-Cincy on May 10, 2011 at 11:26 PM

I figure we have until 2016, if we don’t get our house in order, the republic will fall.

Rebar on May 10, 2011 at 11:42 PM

Yeah, right.

pseudoforce on May 10, 2011 at 11:39 PM

Makes yer bowels go kinda queasy, huh?
If I were Obama, I know I’d be ordering the extra soft and abosrbent kind. Not the newspapers that his supporters have been having to use for the last six months.

And while we’re at it, how bout you send him a message from Detroit? “We’ve run out of toilet paper and stimulus funds”

Key West Reader on May 10, 2011 at 11:44 PM

I figure we have until 2016, if we don’t get our house in order, the republic will fall.

Rebar on May 10, 2011 at 11:42 PM

I joined the Concord Coalition in 1992. I voted for Perot in 1992 because he ran on a balanced budget; and his large vote total led to the 1994 Repub takeover and Clinton tacking to the right. I’ve been concerned about the debt for at least 20 years. So you know how I feel about all this. Incredibly bummed out.

Paul-Cincy on May 10, 2011 at 11:44 PM

I figure we have until 2016, if we don’t get our house in order, the republic will fall.

Rebar on May 10, 2011 at 11:42 PM

Not on our watch.

Key West Reader on May 10, 2011 at 11:45 PM

I figure we have until 2016, if we don’t get our house in order, the republic will fall.

Rebar on May 10, 2011 at 11:42 PM

the republic has already fallen. We ar ein the new fuedalism period. the ruling class considers themselves the new lords and ladies. 2012 will determine if we can get the republic back peacefully or if we accept it.

unseen on May 10, 2011 at 11:46 PM

I figure we have until 2016, if we don’t get our house in order, the republic will fall.

I figure it at about Nov. 2006.

Release the zombies!

bagoh20 on May 10, 2011 at 11:47 PM

Poderhertz used to be a big Palin supporter.

He’s also a HUGE neocon.

The Neocons loved Palin because they thought she was stupid and could be controlled by then.

Palin gave a foreign policy speech that flatly rejected neoconservatism and surprise, surprise, Poderhertz no longer thinks Palin is qualified.

Big surprise.

joshleguern on May 10, 2011 at 11:47 PM

The quality of the challenger only matters in very close elections, like in 2004, when John Kerry lost the Democrats the White House where a younger, more vibrant candidate could have won. The more people saw of Kerry, the more Bush’s favorables/re-elect numbers went up. If unemployment is 8% or higher, Obama will lose. Period. No one has won re-election with unemployment that high since the War. If it is in the 7-8% range he has a shot but only against a very weak candidate. Below that level of unemployment would mean the economy had improved sufficiently that he would probably be re-elected based on the advantages of incumbency, absent some scandal (which is unlikely since he is fellated by those who would uncover such a scandal). Ao basically we can only win with ___________ is pretty much non-sense no matter whom you fill the blank with.

Ted Torgerson on May 10, 2011 at 11:49 PM

Makes yer bowels go kinda queasy, huh?

Key West Reader on May 10, 2011 at 11:44 PM

Yeah, sort of like visiting the day room at the mental hospital.

Cain’s good. He won’t be the nominee in 2012.

pseudoforce on May 10, 2011 at 11:50 PM

Poderhertz used to be a big Palin supporter.

He’s also a HUGE neocon.

The Neocons loved Palin because they thought she was stupid and could be controlled by then.

Palin gave a foreign policy speech that flatly rejected neoconservatism and surprise, surprise, Poderhertz no longer thinks Palin is qualified.

Big surprise.

joshleguern on May 10, 2011 at 11:47 PM

I believe you may be right on that. Kristol is in the same camp.

KickandSwimMom on May 10, 2011 at 11:50 PM

It’s like Trumpapalooza never even happened.

cynccook on May 10, 2011 at 10:46 PM

Won in one. “Now back to our regularly scheduled broadcast…”

John the Libertarian on May 10, 2011 at 11:51 PM

chief:Checking my 2012 Election file,correct you are!

canopfor on May 10, 2011 at 11:41 PM

Thanks canopfor! I saved that link.

chief on May 10, 2011 at 11:52 PM

She embarrassed herself in two interviews, and decided the blame lay not with her own ill-preparedness but with the media that had come after her. Understandably enraged by the misogynistic and practically psychotic attacks on her, she came to embrace her status as a kind of martyr for the social-conservative views that had not been the truly distinguishing features of her meteoric political career up to that moment.

This is the problem I have had with Palin…her acceptance of the martyr, victim role. I don’t believe she embarrassed herself in the Charlie gibson interview at all. I think that interview was heavily edited to show her in the worst light possible. The Couric interview, however, she screwed up. She even admitted she screwed up. While I understand her flippant attitude to the questions she was being asked, they were hardly “gotcha” questions. You have to remember, Palin was an unknown. No one knew who she was or what she was about. Asking her questions to get an idea of how she thinks and how she forms her opinions in not an out of bounds line of questioning. And like I said, she admitted she screwed up…she even wrote about it in her book that she screwed up. So why she now plays the victim of Couric’s liberal “gotcha” questions is beyond me and she has lost credibility with me because of it.

Palin needs to stop whining about the media and suck it up. Yes, they are unfair to her. Yes, they are cruel to her. But she needs to let others fight that battle for her. A perfect example of this would be the Wonkette fiasco a couple of weeks ago when they were horribly cruel to her son. Many, many, many people came out to defend her and criticize Wonkette (to the point that they apologized). Palin was silent on the issue. To my knowledge, she never responded and never even acknowledged the posting at all. She let others fight the battle for her and she won.

We, rightfully, make fun of Obama when he whines about Fox News, Rush, Beck, etc and laugh at how thin-skinned he is and we talk about how small he looks when he is whining about the media. Well, Palin looks small when she does it as well. She is sometimes her own worst enemy.

I’m hoping the Wonkette ordeal is a new strategy she implements. She still has enough supporters who will come to her defense and she needs to let them fight the battles for her. She needs to stop playing the victim and stop making snarky comments about the media – especially Couric. If I were her, I wouldn’t ever mention Couric’s name because I wouldn’t want to remind people of how horrible I was in that interview.

ramrants on May 10, 2011 at 11:52 PM

From the left, writing in the Atlantic, Joshua Green is pretty sure that Palin is a loser because she steers too far to the right. Green notes Palin enjoyed her greatest success by being a moderate. That does not explain how she was able to single-handedly move John McCain’s poll numbers past those of Barack Obama for two weeks until the economic collapse of 2008 moved them back. Nor does it explain how Palin was able to influence the 2010 election so thoroughly.
From the right, Jim Geraghty suggests in National Review that there is a kind of Palin fatigue going on in the country. Palin and her family have popped up in the media so many times, and in situations that have been unedifying, that fewer and fewer people can imagine her as commander in chief.

The first explanation is just silly; otherwise, no conservative would ever prosper in American politics. The second explanation gets close to the truth, but leaves out the fact that a lot of media coverage has been vicious to the point of parody. When one is accused of being complicit in the almost murder of a popular US congresswoman, one has a big problem with the media.

But the poll numbers are what they are. Palin suffers from a large number of people who think her ill and who declare that they will never vote for her for president under any circumstances. Fortunately there is a cure if Palin has the will to take it.

The cure is called a campaign. Far worse poll numbers than Palin’s have been turned around by a good campaign with public speeches, good advertising, and solid debate performances. One could predict that if she decided to run, a lot of people would find themselves reevaluating their negative judgment of Palin and wondering who this woman is and why she doesn’t resemble the Sarah Palin described by the media.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/8046183/right_left_analyses_of_polls_miss_the.html?cat=9

unseen on May 10, 2011 at 11:52 PM

If unemployment is 8% or higher, Obama will lose. Period.

Ted Torgerson on May 10, 2011 at 11:49 PM

I’m not so sure. If the GOP throws up a milquetoast, Obama’s going to be re-elected. The “a baloney sandwich can run against Obama in 2012 and win” way of thinking is a grave error.

pseudoforce on May 10, 2011 at 11:52 PM

Big surprise.

joshleguern on May 10, 2011 at 11:47 PM

what most people ar enot talkign about is that Palin rejected the NEW World Order of the bush/clinton/Bush/Obama worldview. She returned to Reagan’s foreign policy outlook.

So yeah the no borders/open borders/one world government people will not like that at all.

unseen on May 10, 2011 at 11:54 PM

Palin needs to stop whining about the media and suck it up. Yes, they are unfair to her. Yes, they are cruel to her. But she needs to let others fight that battle for her.

ramrants on May 10, 2011 at 11:52 PM

Really? And who would that be, exactly? Bloggers? It’s for sure there were precious few within the GOP who ever came to her defense. Most of them were gleefully piling on.

pseudoforce on May 10, 2011 at 11:54 PM

Most of them were gleefully piling on.

pseudoforce on May 10, 2011 at 11:54 PM

Starting to agree with that. She is the mom who tells you to get the hell out of bed and get ready for school, if you don’t she’ll drop you off at the school in your pjs.

Limerick on May 10, 2011 at 11:57 PM

Fortunately there is a cure if Palin has the will to take it.

The cure is called a campaign. Far worse poll numbers than Palin’s have been turned around by a good campaign with public speeches, good advertising, and solid debate performances. One could predict that if she decided to run, a lot of people would find themselves reevaluating their negative judgment of Palin and wondering who this woman is and why she doesn’t resemble the Sarah Palin described by the media.

unseen on May 10, 2011 at 11:52 PM

Yep. And it’s that campaign that the GOP leadership is fighting to avoid. Hence the multitude of flavors-of-the-month.

pseudoforce on May 10, 2011 at 11:58 PM

This is the problem I have had with Palin…her acceptance of the martyr, victim role.

ramrants on May 10, 2011 at 11:52 PM

I can’t point to any moment where she was comfortable with or even accepting of herself in the role of victim. It doesn’t suit her at all. I am glad she’s growing in her understanding of the highest-level public relations/public exposure that she’s in. She said getting involved in the Kathy Griffin spat was a mistake, and she’s learned from that. She learned from the Couric interview. She keeps learning. Her rough edges are slowly being sanded off.

To be in a victim role, you overlook your own mistakes and shortcomings, and I don’t see that in her at all. Watching her it’s evident to me she holds the reins of power to her own life, come what may, accepting the good and the bad.

Paul-Cincy on May 10, 2011 at 11:59 PM

She’s not running. If you were Bristol Palin and you knew your mother was running for POTUS would you sign up for a stupid reality show where you could inadvertently embarrass your mother and cost her the election?

Would you?

NickDeringer on May 10, 2011 at 11:21 PM

So far, “Sarah Palin’s Alaska” was a nice, fun show that didn’t embarrass anyone (except, perhaps, Kate Gosselin), and Bristol did a fine job on “Dancing With The Stars.”

Why do you keep acting like every time a Palin gets involved in a TV project it’s going to turn into “Jersey Shore”?

Kensington on May 11, 2011 at 12:00 AM

ramrants on May 10, 2011 at 11:52 PM

The Wonkette response was a change. Even dems came out and said they were wrong…How many, and how loud, did ANY GOP official/potential POTUS candidate/thought leader come to Palin’s defense after the Tucson shootings? That is the norm…

Gohawgs on May 11, 2011 at 12:00 AM

Of course, presidential campaigns are really comparisons between two or more candidates. Palin does not have to metaphorically walk on water. She just has to be better, first than the other Republicans, then than
Barack Obama. She has it within her to do both if she wants to

^this this is what the pundits, the commentors, the bloggers don’t understand. For 2 years Palin has been held up to the “perfect” candidate and her few flaws have been picked on, highlighted, rehashed to no end. However in a primary she will not be held up the “the perfect” she will be held up to the Mitts and the Mitchs and the Cains and the bachmanns and and the Newts. and in that race Palin will be judged. This of course is why the gop establishment doesn’t even want her to run because they know to judge her not on the “perfect” but on the also rans she will clean their freaking clock…

unseen on May 11, 2011 at 12:02 AM

The Wonkette response was a change. Even dems came out and said they were wrong…How many, and how loud, did ANY GOP official/potential POTUS candidate/thought leader come to Palin’s defense after the Tucson shootings? That is the norm…

Gohawgs on May 11, 2011 at 12:00 AM

Cain came out for the Trig support but no one came out for the Tucson shooting except huck. I even remember TPaw and Christie piling on.

unseen on May 11, 2011 at 12:03 AM

pseudoforce on May 10, 2011 at 11:52 PM

But you miss the point. Because a re-election campaign is a referendum on the incumbent’s first term, you have a much freer hand to select a nominee with strong policy differences. You don’t need to “appeal to moderates” or “have a truce” because moderates, and low information voters in general, will be casting their ballot for or against Barack Obama, not his opponent. So if you support Palin your argument should be we win with her the same as anyone else, or we lose with her the same as anyone else, depending on the economy over the next 24 months, so why settle for another establishment-blessed inoffensive mediocrity?

Ted Torgerson on May 11, 2011 at 12:03 AM

I’m hoping the Wonkette ordeal is a new strategy she implements. She still has enough supporters who will come to her defense and she needs to let them fight the battles for her. She needs to stop playing the victim and stop making snarky comments about the media – especially Couric. If I were her, I wouldn’t ever mention Couric’s name because I wouldn’t want to remind people of how horrible I was in that interview.

ramrants on May 10, 2011 at 11:52 PM

Congratulations, this has to be the dumbest post of the day. When has Sarah Palin been whining about anything? Palin and her family have been attacked unceasingly for the past 2-1/2 years and she is playing the victim because she is one of few Republicans who has the courage to fight back?

The only time she has mentioned Couric’s departure from CBS is when she has been asked in interviews.

“If I were her” … if Sarah Palin were you she’d probably be working the drive-thru window at McDonald’s rather than being one of the leading voices in the conservative movement.

bw222 on May 11, 2011 at 12:04 AM

“What happened to Sarah Palin? How did someone who so effectively dealt with the two great issues vexing Alaska fall from grace so quickly? Anyone looking back at her record can’t help but wonder: How did a popular, reformist governor beloved by Democrats come to embody right-wing resentment?…

Because Barack Obama set loose his media puppets to lie about her on a 24/7 basis.

And because the GOP idiots who had put McSame at the head of a campaign didn’t want to admit they were idiots who had the ticket order reversed.

Palin became a convenient scapegoat and focus point for both the Obama Party and the Republican establishment.

Which is why she needs to run and knock both of them flat.

northdallasthirty on May 11, 2011 at 12:04 AM

Palin became a convenient scapegoat and focus point for both the Obama Party and the Republican establishment.

Which is why she needs to run and knock both of them flat.

northdallasthirty on May 11, 2011 at 12:04 AM

Very true. I’d love to see that. It remains to be seen if it will happen in 2012.

pseudoforce on May 11, 2011 at 12:07 AM

If unemployment is 8% or higher, Obama will lose. Period.

Ted Torgerson on May 10, 2011 at 11:49 PM

I’m not so sure. If the GOP throws up a milquetoast, Obama’s going to be re-elected. The “a baloney sandwich can run against Obama in 2012 and win” way of thinking is a grave error.

pseudoforce on May 10, 2011 at 11:52 PM

Agree. The people who think Obama is a sure loser remind me of Michael Moore who had spent millions to defeat “Booosh” and was so convinced of his success that after W was re-elected, Moore went into seclusion for weeks.

I agree with Ann Coulter – give us Romney, Romney will lose. I don’t even think after 35 years of Republican domination in Texas, being successful in every state-wide election, that Mittens would be a sure-bet here.

Marcus on May 11, 2011 at 12:09 AM

Which candidate do you trust to actually try to reign in spending, fight both parties over entitlements, & fight for energy independence?

Sarah Palin.

I trust her, because her record proves that I can.

portlandon on May 11, 2011 at 12:09 AM

One result that may surprise people, given how the mainstream media often paints Palin as someone who would have a narrow base of support should she run for the GOP nomination, was that, according to Gallup, ‘despite her strong Tea Party connections, Palin receives as much support from liberal/moderate Republicans as she does from conservative Republicans, 15% vs. 13%. Also, there is little differentiation in preferences for her by region, ranging from 12% in the West and Midwest to 14% in the South and 16% in the East.’

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=43416

Palin has broad support across the entire nation even in the East. she will be a national candidate unlike huck or mitt.

unseen on May 11, 2011 at 12:10 AM

Someone needs to hold Obama’s feet to the fire of all his failures.

The media will demonize whoever tries.

Palin ot T-Paw or West or even Romney.

I’m hoping someone dares to expose this Affirmative Action liar and incompetent and purely political weasel for the fool and fraud and fark-up he is.

They will win if they do.

profitsbeard on May 11, 2011 at 12:10 AM

Cain came out for the Trig support but no one came out for the Tucson shooting except huck. I even remember TPaw and Christie piling on.

unseen on May 11, 2011 at 12:03 AM

A lot of the spineless jellyfish in the GOP were even accepting the premise: “Well it’s true that our rhetoric has become divisive and loaded with violent imagery…” All to win that independent and moderate vote, I guess.

pseudoforce on May 11, 2011 at 12:10 AM

Here you will find out who you are, where you live, who you live with, what you earn; what you do for a living, your political affiliation and your hobbies. Courtesty of …..?

Key West Reader on May 10, 2011 at 10:49 PM

P.S. There is an opt out feature.

Opt out.

Key West Reader on May 10, 2011 at 10:50 PM

Doesn’t matter if you do, as Spokeo is only one of dozens of such sites on the internet, that compiles information about you from multiple sources.

It’s a losing battle.

JannyMae on May 11, 2011 at 12:12 AM

Christie’s “common sense” gun legislation remarks after the Tucson horror put my eraser on his name on the list of maybes. It smelled so Yankee. Sorry Yankees, but it did.

Limerick on May 11, 2011 at 12:13 AM

She’s not running. If you were Bristol Palin and you knew your mother was running for POTUS would you sign up for a stupid reality show where you could inadvertently embarrass your mother and cost her the election?

Would you?

NickDeringer on May 10, 2011 at 11:21 PM

You forgot to click your red ruby heels three times and say, “I wish it were true! I wish it were true! I wish it were true!”

powerpro on May 11, 2011 at 12:14 AM

NickDeringer on May 10, 2011 at 11:21 PM

Rappers inciting violence won’t sink Barry any more than a reality show will sink Sarah Palin.

SouthernGent on May 11, 2011 at 12:17 AM

The ease with which Obama will probably be defeated is not a source of comfort to me. It means we might just be going off the cliff a little more slowly if we don’t give a sh!t who takes his place. We don’t need strategery to defeat Obama. We need strategery to figure out how in the bloody blue waffle we’re going to save our republic.

gryphon202 on May 11, 2011 at 12:18 AM

The Wonkette response was a change. Even dems came out and said they were wrong…How many, and how loud, did ANY GOP official/potential POTUS candidate/thought leader come to Palin’s defense after the Tucson shootings? That is the norm…

Gohawgs on May 11, 2011 at 12:00 AM

This.

The answer would be none. Pawlenty even piled on with a weak ass comment about gun sights not being his style. Essentially admitting that the target map played a role in the shootings.

I think Mike Pence and Rudy Giuliani were the only two political figures to actually defend Palin. The pundits were also absent until they could scream anti-semitism about her video response.

Also, remember that millions of Americans were also blamed for the Tucson shootings along with Palin.

These GOP politicians and pundits remained silent while the left accused these citizens of committing accessory to murder.

It was rather pathetic.

chief on May 11, 2011 at 12:21 AM

Fortunately there is a cure if Palin has the will to take it.

The cure is called a campaign.

unseen on May 10, 2011 at 11:52 PM

Yep. And it’s that campaign that the GOP leadership is fighting to avoid. Hence the multitude of flavors-of-the-month.

pseudoforce on May 10, 2011 at 11:58 PM

…and that campaign is what I am waiting for…

/can’t wait to say “told you so…” to the ignoramuses around me.

ornery_independent on May 11, 2011 at 12:23 AM

Ted Torgerson on May 10, 2011 at 11:49 PM

well the election will be a judgement on Obama it is not a sure thing. You must also give the voters a different horse going in a different direction or the voter will stay on they horse that brought them. Esp if things are really bad. They ar enot going to switch for a Dem light candidate. They will vote for Obama in that case and hope he corrects himself.

If however the candidate offers the voters a change and a different direction they will vote out Obama. After all of the voter is rejecting Obama they ar enot rejecting just him personally but alsow his policies. And incumbant election is not an election of the lesser of two evils. That was a 2008 or a 2000 type of election. If Kerry would have offered the USA a different direction in 2004 he would have one but it was just more of the same big government crap bush was offering.

Clinton offered a different way in 1992. Dole offered Clinton lite in 1996.

unseen on May 11, 2011 at 12:24 AM

The answer would be none. Pawlenty even piled on with a weak ass comment about gun sights not being his style. Essentially admitting implying that the target map played a role in the shootings.

chief on May 11, 2011 at 12:21 AM

Just by way of clarification, Chief.

gryphon202 on May 11, 2011 at 12:24 AM

can’t wait to say “told you so…” to the ignoramuses around me.

ornery_independent on May 11, 2011 at 12:23 AM

I just want to see my republic resotred and the thieves go to jail.

unseen on May 11, 2011 at 12:24 AM

Dole offered Clinton lite in 1996.

unseen on May 11, 2011 at 12:24 AM

Dole hit the wall because by 1996 the voting public thought Germany bombed Pearl Harbor.

Limerick on May 11, 2011 at 12:26 AM

It was rather pathetic.

chief on May 11, 2011 at 12:21 AM

huck defended both the Tea Party and Palin so I give him props on that. about the only good thing I have to say about the man besides he is better than Mitt.

unseen on May 11, 2011 at 12:26 AM

This is the problem I have had with Palin…her acceptance of the martyr, victim role.

ramrants on May 10, 2011 at 11:52 PM

To say this, to really believe it, requires suspension of independent thought; it requires a slavery to Narrative. It signifies a loss of connection with the objective world. For this really is the ultimate in moral inversion.

No human being in modern time has been as comparably attacked by the elitist culture. During this time her lifestyle has been one of prodigious variety and constructiveness of output, and almost unfailing cheerfulness. I suspect it is the confounding fact that she did not sink into self-pitying victimhood that so outrages her persecutors.

rrpjr on May 11, 2011 at 12:26 AM

This is the problem I have had with Palin…her acceptance of the martyr, victim role.

ramrants on May 10, 2011 at 11:52 PM

To say this, to really believe it, requires suspension of independent thought; it requires a slavery to Narrative. It signifies a loss of connection with the objective world. For this really is the ultimate in moral inversion.

No human being in modern time has been as comparably attacked by the elitist culture. During this time her lifestyle has been one of prodigious variety and constructiveness of output, and almost unfailing cheerfulness. I suspect it is the confounding fact that she did not sink into self-pitying victimhood that so outrages her persecutors.

rrpjr on May 11, 2011 at 12:26 AM

I’m beginning to believe that as a nation we are well-and-truly doomed. I remain in the fray not because I’m concerned for my fellow Americans so much anymore. It’s getting harder and harder to understand why we don’t deserve another four years of Obama. The only thing that makes sense anymore is to look out for #1, cause I know I don’t deserve another four years of Obama. That’s about the only thing that makes sense to me anymore.

gryphon202 on May 11, 2011 at 12:31 AM

The pundits were also absent until they could scream anti-semitism about her video response.

chief on May 11, 2011 at 12:21 AM

Stupid Jennifer Rubin is still harping on the “blood libel” thing to this day. Too bad she is a transparent hack and everyone can see what she’s doing.

steebo77 on May 11, 2011 at 12:32 AM

Stupid Jennifer Rubin is still harping on the “blood libel” thing to this day. Too bad she is a transparent hack and everyone can see what she’s doing.

steebo77 on May 11, 2011 at 12:32 AM

Everyone except the other “conservatives” who are still harping on Palin for it. Doomed, I tell you — we are doomed.

gryphon202 on May 11, 2011 at 12:32 AM

Palin has about a 97% “known name”

Mitch has about 34% How many millions would it take Mitch to get his name known by 5% more or 10% more. Obama has a 100% known name. It would take weeks and 100′s of millions to get a Mitch or a Chrisite known to the voters and all that time you will have the press defining you faster than the nominee can define themselves.

Palin has taken the last 3 years to get and keep her name in the mix. By doing so she has saved herslef and her future campaign 100′s of million in expensive ad buys. Now she can instead use that money to drive policy discussions and a positive uplifiting campaign theme. Do not underestimate this fact.

In a Kutz piece this weekend. He stated that the news coverage of Palin has been worth between $66 million in NOv, DEc and Jan and $33 million in MAr/apr period.

Does anyone think Mitch can get that tpye of news coverage or exposure 2 years out form an election?

unseen on May 11, 2011 at 12:34 AM

Does anyone think Mitch can get that tpye of news coverage or exposure 2 years out form an election?

unseen on May 11, 2011 at 12:34 AM

It’s the news coverage and exposure that makes Palin unelectable, rube.

/PalinHaters

gryphon202 on May 11, 2011 at 12:35 AM

we are doomed.

gryphon202 on May 11, 2011 at 12:32 AM

Not yet. This isn’t 1858. The real players are still in the chess game. If she runs she runs. Same with Huck. We’ll either have the most lively primaries in recent memory or it will be a Dukakis sideshow. Either way we have to let them play it out.

Limerick on May 11, 2011 at 12:36 AM

huck defended both the Tea Party and Palin so I give him props on that. about the only good thing I have to say about the man besides he is better than Mitt.

unseen on May 11, 2011 at 12:26 AM

Yeah, I saw your post about Huckabee after I had posted. I do remember Huckabee defending the Tea Party and Governor Palin.

The only good thing to say about Huckabee? Obviously you missed this stirring tribute.

Whisper words of wisdom Huck A Beeee!!!

chief on May 11, 2011 at 12:37 AM

Not yet. This isn’t 1858. The real players are still in the chess game. If she runs she runs. Same with Huck. We’ll either have the most lively primaries in recent memory or it will be a Dukakis sideshow. Either way we have to let them play it out.

Limerick on May 11, 2011 at 12:36 AM

Your optimism is encouraging, but I’m beginning to really wonder if a principled Palin staying on the straight-and-narrow is even enough to save our republic now. :-(

gryphon202 on May 11, 2011 at 12:39 AM

It’s the news coverage and exposure that makes Palin unelectable, rube.

/PalinHaters

gryphon202 on May 11, 2011 at 12:35 AM

Yeah I know I know….still Palin drives a newscycle even when the media and fox have issues a blackout and stated she is who must not be named…..It only impacted her coverage by half.

unseen on May 11, 2011 at 12:39 AM

To say this, to really believe it, requires suspension of independent thought; it requires a slavery to Narrative. It signifies a loss of connection with the objective world. For this really is the ultimate in moral inversion.

No human being in modern time has been as comparably attacked by the elitist culture. During this time her lifestyle has been one of prodigious variety and constructiveness of output, and almost unfailing cheerfulness. I suspect it is the confounding fact that she did not sink into self-pitying victimhood that so outrages her persecutors.

rrpjr on May 11, 2011 at 12:26 AM

It’s also one of the reasons why I’m pretty confident she’ll run.

She is the anti-victim.

I think that, based on what I’ve seen of her character, she’d perceive not running as quitting and letting the leftist media and the establishment get their wish.

And quitting is anathema to Sarah Palin.

When she struggles, she doesn’t give up. She doesn’t role over and play dead and she doesn’t dissolve into self pity.

She finds higher ground so she can take out her target.

And she fires off several rounds…with a smile and a joyful spirit.

powerpro on May 11, 2011 at 12:39 AM

Your optimism is encouraging, but I’m beginning to really wonder if a principled Palin staying on the straight-and-narrow is even enough to save our republic now. :-(

gryphon202 on May 11, 2011 at 12:39 AM

ther eis nothing to save. Palin’s job will be rebuiilding it. the republic died about 23 years ago when the New World Order replaced it.

unseen on May 11, 2011 at 12:41 AM

ther eis nothing to save. Palin’s job will be rebuiilding it. the republic died about 23 years ago when the New World Order replaced it.

unseen on May 11, 2011 at 12:41 AM

That wouldn’t take another Reagan, my friend. It would take a George Washington. And I don’t know if Palin has it in her.

gryphon202 on May 11, 2011 at 12:44 AM

so now what? we have grudging respect for Palin from the Atlantic and JPod? Sounds to me that there’s a little bit of blame the victim and a strong dash of relief.

Now we can mourn the “loss” of a true reformer and get back to the business of partisan haggling over who gets what part of the spoils.

At this point, I don’t see how O loses. If Rs are lucky they’ll get the Senate…but it won’t mean much..Barry will have the apparatus to work around the legislative branch…and soon enough will be able to appoint new SCOTUS judges.

So soon enough the Permanent Democrat Majority project will be complete (what O calls “post-partisan”)

r keller on May 11, 2011 at 12:45 AM

I wonder if all the gop governors that are running combined can equal Palin’s $12 billion surplus….Let’s see Mitch, Mitt, TPaw,christieJohnston hmmm nope not even close.

unseen on May 11, 2011 at 12:46 AM

The question of the day is…

In 8 months will we have fire in the belly, or fire in the esophagus?

Barry is beatable, but not by the RNC.

Limerick on May 11, 2011 at 12:46 AM

So soon enough the Permanent Democrat Majority project will be complete (what O calls “post-partisan”)

r keller on May 11, 2011 at 12:45 AM

I think you give O way too much credit for supposedly being able to get the American people to ignore his record.

The media =/= the American people.

gryphon202 on May 11, 2011 at 12:47 AM

That wouldn’t take another Reagan, my friend. It would take a George Washington. And I don’t know if Palin has it in her.

gryphon202 on May 11, 2011 at 12:44 AM

true to some extant but unlike washington and Franklin and Paine, jefferson etc ….Palin doesn’t have to reinvent the wheel. she just has to replace the flat.

unseen on May 11, 2011 at 12:48 AM

So they point out Palin’s great record in Alaska, but the lesson to learn from it is NOT that Palin did a great job as governor, or that she’s not a fire-breathing far-right extremist, but … “look how far she’s fallen from grace.”

It’s not possible to please such people, and not wise to try.

There Goes The Neighborhood on May 11, 2011 at 12:50 AM

It’s not possible to please such people, and not wise to try.

There Goes The Neighborhood on May 11, 2011 at 12:50 AM

I take the personal insults a little, well, personally.

gryphon202 on May 11, 2011 at 12:53 AM

Well look at it from Palin’s POV. She has made millions, her family’s future is secure, Trig will have the best care, 3 years ago she was facing bankruptcy. Bristol is secure for life. Why not run?

unseen on May 11, 2011 at 12:55 AM

Palin was not the presidential candidate in 2008, that was mccain. yet practically every news outlet tried their damndest to vette her as if she were to be the president. they didn’t dog mccain or obama or clinton in the same manner, and she is still standing. mccain was done before some dope put him in the race, and clinton is a secretary answering obama’s phone at 3am.

how many votes did mccain get in addition because of Palin?

mydogwonthunt on May 11, 2011 at 12:56 AM

The best paypack Palin can give to the press is to run and FORCe them to cover her for another 10 years. ROFL….can you imagine Walters and mitchell having to cover a POTUS Palin daily in a somewhat respectful way………what sweet sweet justice that would be..

unseen on May 11, 2011 at 12:58 AM

how many votes did mccain get in addition because of Palin?

mydogwonthunt on May 11, 2011 at 12:56 AM

That’s like asking how many licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop. The world may never know.

gryphon202 on May 11, 2011 at 12:58 AM

When Sarah Turned Left.

If only Sarah Palin had stayed with her left of center values.

But that’s like crossing the line on the highway and eventually will lead into a traffic accident. But Sarah Palin is no accident, despite the claims of being thinned skinned. Which I would direct you to Obama prickly skin, when he responds to sniping of his policies. You can practically see his veins.

Sarah as a loose undisciplined knavish self-centered vixen, that spends more time looking in the mirror asking whose the fairest of them all. Complete liberal tripe.

I read Verum Serum’s piece earlier today and thought, this, again, is the left’s playbook on how to “distract” us from their effort to tell us who we should be considering. Who is our Savior from pharaoh Barry? Their answer is not Sarah, no…. and that’s what frightens them so much.

Kini on May 11, 2011 at 12:59 AM

The question of the day is…

In 8 months will we have fire in the belly, or fire in the esophagus?

Barry is beatable, but not by the RNC.

Limerick on May 11, 2011 at 12:46 AM

Limerick:Spoken words of wisdom,from the Great State of
Texas,Sarah is a Fighter,has Combat Experience,
Politically.And on that highlight,I bid,you Lim,
a great night,

GoodNight,from North of da border!:)

canopfor on May 11, 2011 at 12:59 AM

I, for one, will do a happy dance and perhaps rejoice with some of you here on the day that Sarah officially announces.

On the night of her primary win I expect people to come out of their houses on my block to celebrate.

And on the night she wins the election, I expect my entire town to converge in our city parks in jubilation.

The American people see Zero’s intent and purposeful efforts to destroy us. We are not going to let that happen.

Neither will Sarah.

Godspeed, Sarah Palin. I cannot wait.

Opinionator on May 11, 2011 at 1:01 AM

That’s like asking how many licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop. The world may never know.

I would actually say all of the votes were because of her

mydogwonthunt on May 11, 2011 at 1:01 AM

I think you give O way too much credit for supposedly being able to get the American people to ignore his record.

The media =/= the American people.

gryphon202 on May 11, 2011 at 12:47 AM

well, yeah…i hope you’re right…but of course it’s not just O, it is the Dim machine. I’d be a happier camper if I could see a path to victory. We have to have someone who 1. wins the primaries 2. doesn’t alienate conservatives so much that they stay home 3. can’t be made into a buffoon by the media so that indies wouldn’t touch the person.

The dims will get their base up and try to suppress the R base by any means possible

Besides all that, there is incumbency..having the office. He looks presidential. He has carried the weight of the world on his shoulders for four years (yeah, yeah, I know)

r keller on May 11, 2011 at 1:03 AM

For those wondering why she has not announced yet, there are some important dates coming up soon… for up to 2 years from leaving office, the trolls and jerks in Alaska can still file frivolous ethics complaints… both her and Bristol have trademarks filed and being approved for their names (which should be interesting once she starts running – could she sue people for using her name for profit or gain??)…. too early to start yet since there is no competition yet… maybe late June or July???

PhilipJames on May 11, 2011 at 1:04 AM

mccain got his votes because he was republican.
he got all of the votes he did because of Palin.

mydogwonthunt on May 11, 2011 at 1:04 AM

…At this point, I don’t see how O loses…

r keller on May 11, 2011 at 12:45 AM

Can you see $5.00 gas? $6.00?

Can you see 9%, 10% unemployment?

Can you see 10% inflation?

Can you see a recovered housing market?

Can you see a rebounded economy?

Cuz if you can see any of that, I don’t see how you see the Chicago Jesus winning.

ornery_independent on May 11, 2011 at 1:04 AM

That’s like asking how many licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop. The world may never know.

gryphon202 on May 11, 2011 at 12:58 AM

exit polls show that 60% of the voters rated Palin has a factor in thier vote

total votes for the 2008 elections were
129,391,711 times .60 = 77,635,026 called Palin a factor out of that 56% voted for McCain or 43,475,614

McCain got a total of 59,934,814 votes

or 72% of the McCain voters said that Palin was a factor in their vote.

unseen on May 11, 2011 at 1:07 AM

I, for one, will do a happy dance and perhaps rejoice with some of you here on the day that Sarah officially announces.

On the night of her primary win I expect people to come out of their houses on my block to celebrate.

And on the night she wins the election, I expect my entire town to converge in our city parks in jubilation.

The American people see Zero’s intent and purposeful efforts to destroy us. We are not going to let that happen.

Neither will Sarah.

Godspeed, Sarah Palin. I cannot wait.

Opinionator on May 11, 2011 at 1:01 AM

Help make it happen.

Think of the joy you’ll feel when you know you didn’t just support her from afar, but instead you played an active part in what’s to come. :)

powerpro on May 11, 2011 at 1:07 AM

Cuz if you can see any of that, I don’t see how you see the Chicago Jesus winning.

all of these things you ask about are already here, except for 6 dollar gas.
in fact, most of your estimates are low.

mydogwonthunt on May 11, 2011 at 1:07 AM

Besides all that, there is incumbency..having the office. He looks presidential. He has carried the weight of the world on his shoulders for four years (yeah, yeah, I know)

r keller on May 11, 2011 at 1:03 AM

He lies his azz off, and folks don’t like liars, especially when it costs them money. I mean, did you see him today? What a pathetic dishonest speech, and in Texas of all places. I wonder where the crowd was bussed in from.

ornery_independent on May 11, 2011 at 1:09 AM

No matter how many hit pieces with sooo much wishcasting the GOP Elites and the Hatefilled Left put out on Palin…if she runs I’ll vote, donate and volunteer for her…and she’ll win.

I’m just a middle class, wife, mother, Christian, conservative, college educated, professional woman who completely identifies with Palin because her values are my values. My husband supports her as well… so to hell with “our” enemies…

CCRWM on May 11, 2011 at 1:10 AM

I don’t see how you see the Chicago Jesus winning.

ornery_independent on May 11, 2011 at 1:04 AM

Mitt and/or mitch

unseen on May 11, 2011 at 1:10 AM

all of these things you ask about are already here, except for 6 dollar gas.
in fact, most of your estimates are low.

mydogwonthunt on May 11, 2011 at 1:07 AM

Well, I am a conservative, after all ;)

ornery_independent on May 11, 2011 at 1:12 AM

When Sarah Turned Left.

If only Sarah Palin had stayed with her left of center values.

Sarah as a loose undisciplined knavish self-centered vixen, that spends more time looking in the mirror asking whose the fairest of them all. Complete liberal tripe.

I read Verum Serum’s piece earlier today and thought, this, again, is the left’s playbook on how to “distract” us from their effort to tell us who we should be considering. Who is our Savior from pharaoh Barry? Their answer is not Sarah, no…. and that’s what frightens them so much.

Kini on May 11, 2011 at 1:13 AM

powerpro on May 11, 2011 at 1:07 AM

The minute I am able to regain/replace my 75% in lost business and earnings in the last year due to Zero, I will move mountains for Sarah. Now I’m trying to save my home.

I have never worked on a campaign in my life. The closest I’ve ever come to involvement in politics was being a precinct judge.

I will, however, do everything possible to help Sarah. It is that important. Our republic is at stake.

Opinionator on May 11, 2011 at 1:14 AM

It’s funny they decide now, after she’s taken some hits and learned from uneven responses, that she’s “thin-skinned”. She’s got a much thicker skin now than she did in 2008. She’s not going to make the same mistakes the second time.

alwaysfiredup on May 11, 2011 at 1:17 AM

42,699,264 voters said Palin was not a factor in their vote.

33,383,061 Obama votes said Palin was a factor in their vote.

or in other words for those that said Palin was a factor in their vote Palin brought in 10,092,552 more votes than she cost McCain.

unseen on May 11, 2011 at 1:18 AM

The minute I am able to regain/replace my 75% in lost business and earnings in the last year due to Zero, I will move mountains for Sarah. Now I’m trying to save my home.

I have never worked on a campaign in my life. The closest I’ve ever come to involvement in politics was being a precinct judge.

I will, however, do everything possible to help Sarah. It is that important. Our republic is at stake.

Opinionator on May 11, 2011 at 1:14 AM

That’s cool.

We’ll look forward to having you on board too.

If you or anyone here is from Tennessee, let me know!

powerpro on May 11, 2011 at 1:20 AM

Sarah as a loose undisciplined knavish self-centered vixen, that spends more time looking in the mirror asking whose the fairest of them all. Complete liberal tripe.

as opposed to barry, the magi . . . clean, articulate, creased pants, starched collars, eating of arugala, speaks like a cracker, unless he wants to pull one over on the brotherz and sistaz . . .

mydogwonthunt on May 11, 2011 at 1:21 AM

exit polls show that 60% of the voters rated Palin has a factor in thier vote

total votes for the 2008 elections were
129,391,711 times .60 = 77,635,026 called Palin a factor out of that 56% voted for McCain or 43,475,614

McCain got a total of 59,934,814 votes

or 72% of the McCain voters said that Palin was a factor in their vote.

unseen on May 11, 2011 at 1:07 AM

Well you know what I think about polls. ;)

gryphon202 on May 11, 2011 at 1:22 AM

or in other words for those that said Palin was a factor in their vote Palin brought in 10,092,552 more votes than she cost McCain.

unseen on May 11, 2011 at 1:18 AM

Which works out to about 7.82% of the vote. I do believe that is the biggest amount any VP has impacted a race in the history of the USA.

unseen on May 11, 2011 at 1:22 AM

Well you know what I think about polls. ;)

gryphon202 on May 11, 2011 at 1:22 AM

yeah same here but next to the election exit polls are some of the most accurate.

unseen on May 11, 2011 at 1:25 AM

powerpro on May 11, 2011 at 1:20 AM

Thanks, pro.

And likewise, if anyone is in northern Idaho/eastern WA, please let me know!

Opinionator on May 11, 2011 at 1:25 AM

Besides all that, there is incumbency..having the office. He looks presidential. He has carried the weight of the world on his shoulders for four years (yeah, yeah, I know)

r keller on May 11, 2011 at 1:03 AM

He looks presidential? Really? Are you sh!tting me? Barack Hussein Soetoro-Obama has screwed up everything he’s touched with the possibile exception of the Bin Laden operation, and even there he only got Bin Laden by following the same Bush 43 policies on counterterrorism that he dissed. No offense, but you’re living proof that Obama’s most significant damage to our republic may be how low he’s set the bar for “better than Obama.”

gryphon202 on May 11, 2011 at 1:25 AM

I do believe that is the biggest amount any VP has impacted a race in the history of the USA.

unseen on May 11, 2011 at 1:22 AM

well at least since we changed the document and ran a POTUS/VP on the same ticket….

unseen on May 11, 2011 at 1:26 AM

Which works out to about 7.82% of the vote. I do believe that is the biggest amount any VP has impacted a race in the history of the USA.

unseen on May 11, 2011 at 1:22 AM

i would say that everyone that voted for barry could not have cared in the least who was on the republican ticket.

i would also say that mccain got all of his votes because of Sarah Palin.

mydogwonthunt on May 11, 2011 at 1:26 AM

the msm was concerned that mccain might not make it through a 4 year term, so they thought Palin WOULD BE PRESIDENT.

mydogwonthunt on May 11, 2011 at 1:29 AM

canopfor on May 11, 2011 at 12:59 AM

bud, you know that offer of beer and brauts is always open.

Night folks. Either way Allah will get all the clicks he can get out of a Palin screenshot. Right up to election day.

Limerick on May 11, 2011 at 1:29 AM

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