NASA scientist backing climate-change lawsuit against White House?

posted at 12:15 pm on May 10, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

How does the administration that pledged to change the way Washington works handle internal disagreements?  Apparently, they make lawyers rich and tie up the courts.  James Hansen,who runs NASA’s Goddard Institute, is currently backing a lawsuit against the administration for failing to address global warming — and is using teenagers to do it:

By failing to take action against global warming, the federal government has violated its legal obligation to protect the atmosphere as a resource that belongs to everyone, according to a lawsuit filed in federal court last week.

Five of the plaintiffs are teenagers, who have a “profound interest in ensuring our climate remains stable enough to ensure their right to a livable future,” according to the suit filed May 4, which names a number of federal officials — from Lisa Jackson, head of the Environmental Protection Agency, to Robert Gates of the Defense Department — as defendants.

The suit cites climate calculations, and is supported by NASA climate scientist James Hansen, who has a history of speaking out forcefully on the hazards of human-caused global warming. Hansen told LiveScience he had been interested in going to court over the topic in recent years.

It’s for the children! Honestly, what nonsense.  It might make sense if, say, Hansen didn’t already have the President’s ear on policy matters.  Why not just go over to the Oval Office and press Obama for more direct action?  The actual reason is, of course, that Obama can’t deliver on it with a Republican House.  In fact, he couldn’t deliver it with a fully Democratic Congress, mainly because those positions are too extreme for even some in Obama’s own party.

Instead, the radicals want to use the courts to deliver what representative government can’t.  That’s also why some of them want courts to grant nature “human rights.” That would allow activists to flood courts with actions demanding that judges impose policies that legislators refuse to pass, an anti-democratic impulse that would put public policy in the hands of star chambers rather than elected representatives of the people.  And that way, they wouldn’t have to borrow teenagers as plaintiffs, but instead adopt rocks, plants, and rivers.

Perhaps we should take a page from their book and start filing lawsuits on behalf of infants who are going to be saddled with massive debt based on the policies of this administration — or the future unborn against the violence of abortion.  I mean, as long as we’re going to have star chambers …

Update: Hansen doesn’t run NASA; Charles Bolden does.  He runs the Goddard Institute for NASA.  I apologize for the error.


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how inconvenient

hanzblinx on May 10, 2011 at 12:17 PM

punks!

pageram on May 10, 2011 at 12:18 PM

That cheer you heard on Obama’s Inauguration Day was from the American Bar Association.

kingsjester on May 10, 2011 at 12:18 PM

Palm, meet Face!

Face, meet Palm!

pilamaye on May 10, 2011 at 12:18 PM

Hansen was not appointed by Obama to run NASA.

Maj. General Charles Bolden is the NASA Administrator.

Hansen is a NASA climate scientist.

Purple Fury on May 10, 2011 at 12:19 PM

Hansen doesn’t run NASA, Charles Bolden is the Administrator

pecan pie on May 10, 2011 at 12:19 PM

Perhaps we should take a page from their book and start filing lawsuits on behalf of infants who are going to be saddled with massive debt based on the policies of this administration — or the future unborn against the violence of abortion.

How about this. We sue women who had abortions, and abortionists, on behalf of children because they, by aborting children, have increased the financial burden of entitlements for those who were born!

Rocks on May 10, 2011 at 12:20 PM

Well you can say one thing about bho and team, they love to take almost everything they can think of to court for one reason or the other!
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letget on May 10, 2011 at 12:22 PM

NASA used to be such a positive organization. Now NASA is a PR firm for Islam and the promoters of false science. So when do they start offering abortions while in orbit?

Hening on May 10, 2011 at 12:23 PM

Hansen is a NASA climate scientist.

Purple Fury on May 10, 2011 at 12:19 PM

He heads the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies in NYC.

WarEagle01 on May 10, 2011 at 12:23 PM

The Weather Clown has wasted our money for years. Now he doubles down with his nonsense. How many times can a person be wrong before someone realizes he is a liar and incompetent?

pat on May 10, 2011 at 12:23 PM

This is only the beginning. It is going to be a long 19 months, followed by rioting.

Vashta.Nerada on May 10, 2011 at 12:23 PM

Wait? The government is suing the government? And we are paying to defend both sides?

ramrants on May 10, 2011 at 12:23 PM

Isn’t Hansen the one who forgot to carry the 2 or something and made a huge mistake about what year was the hottest on record? And this guy is now the head of NASA?

princetrumpet on May 10, 2011 at 12:25 PM

We’re going to end up with either green totalitarianism that turns human beings into marionettes controlled by bureaucrats, or full-blown civil war.

Aitch748 on May 10, 2011 at 12:25 PM

Okay, he’s not the head of NASA. Still….

princetrumpet on May 10, 2011 at 12:26 PM

And I thought watching Qaddafi fight al-Qaeda was a blast…

elfman on May 10, 2011 at 12:27 PM

What does this have to do with Muslim outreach ?!?
Sorta off message, no ??
Shocked, I tell you !!

pambi on May 10, 2011 at 12:27 PM

Fine. Use NASA’s data up to 1980 to plot 2010′s temperatures/climate in 1000 square acre sections of the entire world.
 
I get to pick 100 sections (and month) at random and without your knowledge. If you’re off by more than one degree or have an incorrect climate condition on more than 5, you lose the case.

rogerb on May 10, 2011 at 12:28 PM

Green communism is like regular communism. Eventually it will collapse because we run out of money to subsidize it.

Blake on May 10, 2011 at 12:28 PM

I’ve made the correction in the article. Thanks to those who pointed it out.

Ed Morrissey on May 10, 2011 at 12:29 PM

This clown also predicted in the mid-80′s that the Lower West Side of Manhattan would be underwater by now.

DocinPA on May 10, 2011 at 12:34 PM

Hansen’s rathole corner of NASA is in NYC, from which they squander tax dollars on their inane pseudoscience as well as running realclimate.org on taxpayer time.

JEM on May 10, 2011 at 12:35 PM

Instead, the radicals want to use the courts to deliver what representative government can’t. That’s also why some of them want courts to grant nature “human rights.”

Given half a chance, they’ll bog down the system with litigation until they bring this country to its knees. It’s not a nuisance they intend, but destruction. And we need to take the threat seriously enough to crush it while we still can.

Perhaps we should take a page from their book and start filing lawsuits on behalf of infants who are going to be saddled with massive debt based on the policies of this administration

Yes, by all means.

petefrt on May 10, 2011 at 12:35 PM

I want to meet these teenage boys about 10-20 years from now, after they’ve tried working for a living, and see what they think of this.

I also want to meet these teenage girls in several years, when their biological clocks are ticking like Big Ben, and environmental regulations forbid them from having kids.

CurtZHP on May 10, 2011 at 12:36 PM

What about our Virginia lawsuit suing the warmingists?

joeindc44 on May 10, 2011 at 12:37 PM

He is losing in the arena of ideas, AGW is taking a real beating, so he uses a bunch of empty-headed and easily led teens and files a lawsuit. The scary part is that he is suing an administration that agrees, so that leads one to wonder just how vigorous the gubment will fight this.

TQM38a on May 10, 2011 at 12:38 PM

rogerb on May 10, 2011 at 12:28 PM

NASA admitted their data was bogus. They put their sensors in locations guaranteed to provide higher readings.

They are no better than the CRU. This is all theater, but for what purpose?

dogsoldier on May 10, 2011 at 12:43 PM

http://www.ClimateDepot.com

Akzed on May 10, 2011 at 12:45 PM

I’ve made the correction in the article. Thanks to those who pointed it out.

Ed Morrissey on May 10, 2011 at 12:29 PM

Careful again, Ed. Not trying to be picky but it’s important that people know who and what this guy is. See the difference between the Goddard Space Flight Center in Maryland (Center Director is Rob Strain) and the Goddard Institute for Space Studies in…New York City!! where he’s the Chief. (sorry, the joke lives on in Texas).

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/home/installations.html

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/about/people/ctrdirectors_col_archive_1.html

http://science.gsfc.nasa.gov/sed/index.cfm?fuseAction=people.orgChart&navOrgCode=610&navTab=nav_about_us

GISS is located at Columbia University in New York City. The institute is a laboratory in the Earth Sciences Division of NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center and a unit of the Columbia University Earth Institute.

pecan pie on May 10, 2011 at 12:46 PM

I thought NASA’s job was to make Muslims feel good about themselves or something. What does this whack think he’s doing?

ted c on May 10, 2011 at 12:47 PM

I think there needs to be some Conservative groups join the Government in defense of current policy, otherwise the Obama Administration will thrown in the towel and lose on purpose, kind of like winning against the Black Panthers and dropping the case.

WoosterOh on May 10, 2011 at 12:49 PM

He is losing in the arena of ideas, AGW is taking a real beating, so he uses a bunch of empty-headed and easily led teens and files a lawsuit. The scary part is that he is suing an administration that agrees, so that leads one to wonder just how vigorous the gubment will fight this.

TQM38a on May 10, 2011 at 12:38 PM

Eric Holder has already conceded

Roy Rogers on May 10, 2011 at 12:49 PM

Five of the plaintiffs are teenagers

The parents of these five should be arrested, flogged, and have their parental rights terminated. No parent with even an ounce of sense would allow this.

Someday these poor kids will have to work for a living– they’re in for a rude awakening.

CantCureStupid on May 10, 2011 at 12:51 PM

If NASA isn’t about space exploration anymore, than close it down completely. It pains me to say that, I really want the constellation program to be funded, but NASA has no business bothering with climate change.

Daemonocracy on May 10, 2011 at 12:54 PM

Time for Meds? NASA scientist James Hansen endorses book which calls for ‘ridding the world of Industrial Civilization’ – Hansen declares author ‘has it right…the system is the problem’

Book proposes ‘razing cities to the ground, blowing up dams and switching off the greenhouse gas emissions machine’

Akzed on May 10, 2011 at 12:54 PM

Wait? The government is suing the government? And we are paying to defend both sides?

ramrants on May 10, 2011 at 12:23 PM

a Cloward-Piven wet dream.

Kenosha Kid on May 10, 2011 at 12:55 PM

It’s for the children! Honestly, what nonsense. It might make sense if, say, Hansen didn’t already have the President’s ear on policy matters. Why not just go over to the Oval Office and press Obama for more direct action?

Obama’s schedule is too crowded to make the time for a B-lister like Hansen.

8am: wakes up
8am-9pm: admires himself in the mirror
9am-10:30am: breakfast while watching video of his 2008 campaign speeches.
10:30am-10:45am: policy briefing.
10:45am-11:00am: Settle fight between Valerie Jarret and Bill Daley.
11:00am-1:00pm: 9 holes of golf
1:00pm-2:00pm: lunch, texting on Blackberry, ritual staff abuse
2:00pm-3:30pm: 9 more holes of golf
3:30pm-5:00pm: Naptime
5:00pm-6:00pm: Mettings with SEIU, other campaign contributors
6:00pm-7:00pm: Dinner, boring Michelle with golf stories.
7:00pm-8:00pm: Meeting with speechwriter, teleprompter operator.
8:00pm-10:00pm: Watch basketball game on ESPN, declares that he’d make a pretty good referee.
10:00pm-10:30pm: Sends mass e-mail reply to cabinet members consisting of “just deal with it yourself, I’m busy”.
10:30pm-10:40pm: “Alone time” with Michelle. You don’t want the details.
10:40pm-11:00pm: Admire self in mirror.
11:00pm-8:00am: Goes to bed.

Hollowpoint on May 10, 2011 at 12:55 PM

Lot’s of Hansen stuff here.

Akzed on May 10, 2011 at 12:57 PM

can we just add NASA to the list of agencies that have outlived their usefulness? I mean, if we’re not going into space anymore…what’s the point to fund these gasbags?

search4truth on May 10, 2011 at 1:04 PM

Update: Hansen doesn’t run NASA; Charles Bolden does.

From the cr@p you get from the LameStream Media, you would get the impression that Hansen runs NASA.

Hansen is not a “scientist”: he is a Global Warmist, who believes AGW religiously no matter what. He has been caught misrepresenting data, falsifying data, and presenting outright lies as facts. No serious person should waste time listening to this fool.

landlines on May 10, 2011 at 1:08 PM

What about our Virginia lawsuit suing the warmingists WARMINGERS?

joeindc44 on May 10, 2011 at 12:37 PM

esnap on May 10, 2011 at 1:10 PM

These people didn’t study real science or attend real classes. They were spoon fed and handpicked regardless of real science know-how. Real scientists are silent due to the fact that they have families to feed. This guy is a two-bit hack and so are the bulk of the eco-radicals in D.C. and around the nation. It’s all about power accumulation and has very little to do with the environment or anyones’ so-called children.

HomeoftheBrave on May 10, 2011 at 1:12 PM

Hansen should be fired

TheBigOldDog on May 10, 2011 at 1:14 PM

This should be a wake up for the Warmists in the GOP presidential race, Pawlenty, Daniels, Huntsman…
What kind of justices would they pick for the court?

cartooner on May 10, 2011 at 1:19 PM

James Hansen: living proof you can be consistently wrong, and get paid well for your results with other people’s money.

Yoop on May 10, 2011 at 1:25 PM

10:30pm-10:40pm: “Alone time” with Michelle. You don’t want the details.

Hollowpoint on May 10, 2011 at 12:55 PM

Picturing Big Foot catching salmon with it’s jaws…

Eychhh!

Roy Rogers on May 10, 2011 at 1:28 PM

I attended a capital markets seminar last week in the D.C. area. One of the lecturers was an economist with a particular expertise in energy policy. He indicated that half of China’s new power plants are coal fired. China is coal hungry, and the U.S. is selling coal to China as fast as we can dig it out of the ground. This economist predicted that as energy prices rise, environmentalists will become irrelevant as the American public embraces every kind of energy and method of resource extraction. He pronounced CO2 emission control DOA.

WordsMatter on May 10, 2011 at 1:30 PM

Five of the plaintiffs are teenagers, who have a “profound interest in ensuring our climate remains stable enough to ensure their right to a livable future,”

Then my teenagers can sue the administration for endangering their financial future with reckless and irresponsible fiscal policies that they will have to pay for.

And their lawsuit will be based on real numbers, not phony, politically influenced computer models that are riddled with confirmation bias and wild assumptions.

RadClown on May 10, 2011 at 1:35 PM

So how much money has Hansen invested in green crap, and how much is he losing without legislation on cap and trade?

It ALWAYS boils down to money. These so called do gooders use people, but only do good when it’s for their own selfish purposes.

capejasmine on May 10, 2011 at 1:39 PM

Hollowpoint on May 10, 2011 at 12:55 PM

LMAO!!!

That probably isn’t far from the truth either. LOL

capejasmine on May 10, 2011 at 1:42 PM

What a lovely story… that has already been edited for scientific inaccuracy.

Carbon dioxide is the most potent greenhouse gas.

Claiming CO2 is the “most potent greenhouse gas” was apparently too much even for the warmists.

Now it’s:

carbon dioxide is ultimately responsible for more warming because it is the most abundant greenhouse gas

CO2 .039%
H2O .4%

Maybe they don’t understand this “climate” thing as well as they claim to?

That or they’re really good at science, but incompetent at questions as to “which number is bigger”?

gekkobear on May 10, 2011 at 1:45 PM

Are these the same kids that are suing the State of Colorado for Global Warming?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1S8h2KmGzQ&feature=player_embedded

Conservative Bambina on May 10, 2011 at 1:57 PM

Instead, the radicals want to use the courts to deliver what representative government can’t.

This isn’t the first time this has been done.

The Kansas City Missouri school districts tried to get more funding and couldn’t get it through the normal legal channels. So, they had someone file a lawsuit (a civil rights violation suit, I believe) saying that the inner-city districts didn’t receive as much money as suburban districts because they were mostly black (racists!).

The courts ruled in favor of the plaintiff (mostly because the defendant in the case, the school district, didn’t bother mounting a defense because they wanted more money). The court stated that the funding had to be increased and the city government was forced to spend money on olympic-sized swimming pools, robotics labs and busing kids in from the suburbs.

20 years later the state-of-the-art facilities have all been sold off, the busing has stopped, and the schools are no better off than they were before, in spite of hundreds of millions of extra dollars being pumped into the district.

JadeNYU on May 10, 2011 at 2:02 PM

Obama’s schedule is too crowded to make the time for a B-lister like Hansen.

8am: wakes up
8am-9pm: admires himself in the mirror
9am-10:30am: breakfast while watching video of his 2008 campaign speeches.
10:30am-10:45am: policy briefing.
10:45am-11:00am: Settle fight between Valerie Jarret and Bill Daley.
11:00am-1:00pm: 9 holes of golf
1:00pm-2:00pm: lunch, texting on Blackberry, ritual staff abuse
2:00pm-3:30pm: 9 more holes of golf
3:30pm-5:00pm: Naptime
5:00pm-6:00pm: Mettings with SEIU, other campaign contributors
6:00pm-7:00pm: Dinner, boring Michelle with golf stories.
7:00pm-8:00pm: Meeting with speechwriter, teleprompter operator.
8:00pm-10:00pm: Watch basketball game on ESPN, declares that he’d make a pretty good referee.
10:00pm-10:30pm: Sends mass e-mail reply to cabinet members consisting of “just deal with it yourself, I’m busy”.
10:30pm-10:40pm: “Alone time” with Michelle. You don’t want the details. Gigantic booty time
10:40pm-11:00pm: Admire self in mirror.
11:00pm-8:00am: Goes to bed.

Hollowpoint on May 10, 2011 at 12:55 PM

esnap on May 10, 2011 at 2:13 PM

James Hansen: living proof you can be consistently wrong, and get paid well for your results with other people’s money.

Yoop on May 10, 2011 at 1:25 PM

I’ve been reading his ‘scientific’ work since 1995.
Even with my measley little BS degree, I can tell the man is full of it.
His ‘work’ is GARBAGE.
I can only imagine that he is probably a lughing stock in the competent scientific community.
And indeed, remember being in college & hearing some of my more prominent professors b!t@hing about what an idiot he was.
I was intrigued by their conversations about AGW back then & so started reading up on in.
A lot of government scientists I have met in all ranges of disciplines turn out to be morons who can’t think their way out of a paperbag.
It must be a prerequisite for government work.

Badger40 on May 10, 2011 at 2:13 PM

JadeNYU on May 10, 2011 at 2:02 PM

Indian schools are pretty much the same thing.
New buildings, etc.
And everything gets routinely vandalized.
What a waste of $$$.

Badger40 on May 10, 2011 at 2:15 PM

Hansen is an academic hack who has made millions of the global warming idiocy.
He was exposed year ago by Richard Lindzen, the nemisis of global warming advocates…but who has now been proven correct.

right2bright on May 10, 2011 at 2:18 PM

Hitler used children as propaganda tools.

Kini on May 10, 2011 at 2:18 PM

Update: Hansen doesn’t run NASA; Charles Bolden does. He runs the Goddard Institute for NASA. I apologize for the error.

To be precise, the Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS), not to be confused with the much more famous Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland, of which GISS is just a tiny part.

I mention this not to be pedantic, but because I suspect a lot of people at NASA don’t care to be associated with Hansen. The fine folks at GSFC do a lot of important work (they manage and control the Hubble Space Telescope, for example) and shouldn’t suffer by association with Hansen.

The NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) is a laboratory in Goddard Space Flight Center’s Earth Sciences Division, which is part of GSFC’s Sciences and Exploration Directorate. The institute was originally established in New York City in May 1961 by Dr. Robert Jastrow to do basic research in space sciences in support of Goddard programs. Much of the institute’s early work involved study of planetary atmospheres using data collected by telescopes and space probes, and in time that led to GISS becoming a leading center of atmospheric modeling and of climate change.

Purple Fury on May 10, 2011 at 2:27 PM

Because what we need is more teenage activists to help save the Earth from climate change mythology.

jjrakman on May 10, 2011 at 2:44 PM

NASA should kick Hansen and his hockey team out of NASA. They give NASA a bad name and likely don’t help NASA get money from Congress.

slickwillie2001 on May 10, 2011 at 2:50 PM

Five of the plaintiffs are teenagers, who have a “profound interest in ensuring our climate remains stable enough to ensure their right to a livable future,”

So can I get five teenagers together and sue the government for fiscal policies and government debt that leave them in indentured servitude for the rest of their lives?

Socratease on May 10, 2011 at 2:52 PM

So can I get five teenagers together and sue the government for fiscal policies and government debt that leave them in indentured servitude for the rest of their lives?

Socratease on May 10, 2011 at 2:52 PM

To be fair, teenagers are way out of their league when it comes to ‘thinking’.
Poor little giblets have no clue how they’re being pawned.

Badger40 on May 10, 2011 at 2:59 PM

CO2 .039%
H2O .4%

Maybe they don’t understand this “climate” thing as well as they claim to?

That or they’re really good at science, but incompetent at questions as to “which number is bigger”?

gekkobear on May 10, 2011 at 1:45 PM

I love it when the “experts” tell us that they can control the earth’s climate via a theory which ignores the oceans, the clouds, and the sun…and focuses on a tiny amount of a gas which historically has never had any causal relationship to climate.

These “experts” assert that we must endure huge taxes, fees, surcharges, and regulations now in order to avoid a “catastrophe” which may or may not materialize decades later. Past predictions of this same catastrophe by the same methods have proved wrong multiple times within the last 50 years.

Such “experts” are called “ignoramouses” or “buffoons” in most other circles…

landlines on May 10, 2011 at 3:44 PM

Hanson is the biggest loser EVER at NASA.

magic kingdom on May 10, 2011 at 3:54 PM

A lot of government scientists I have met in all ranges of disciplines turn out to be morons who can’t think their way out of a paperbag.
It must be a prerequisite for government work.

Badger40 on May 10, 2011 at 2:13 PM

Ah, yep…

Short version of a long story: a bunch of government PhD’s mapped a large area and saw-what-they-expected-to-see.

A couple of us doubters weren’t impressed and said to ourselves “I wonder if…”.

The damn outcrop right in the middle of the bush road was what we were looking for: it wasn’t what they thought it was.

Contains PGE’s, gold and copper, in outcrop. Exact amounts to be determined someday by somebody with more money that we had.

Yoop on May 10, 2011 at 4:32 PM

Teenagers. I assume they’re 18, at least.

Idiots – there will be plenty of air for you airheads, but no jobs.

disa on May 10, 2011 at 5:09 PM

My 9 yo grandson says he doesn’t want to pay for this sh!t.

Kissmygrits on May 10, 2011 at 5:29 PM

Perhaps we should take a page from their book and start filing lawsuits on behalf of infants who are going to be saddled with massive debt based on the policies of this administration —

Good point – almost. The two most consequential problems we have at present are anthropogenic warming and massive debt. These two problems pale in comparison to any other, and will take tremendous courage on the part of many of us in order to begin to tackle.

Of course, mere lawsuits against such massive problems are almost comical in the abstract. What we need is acknowledgement of the problems and pressure on policy makers to take real action. Waiting for legal action to produce any real results will make for a long wait indeed.

Since most people don’t consider AGW or federal debt to be significant problems, don’t look for action on these any time soon.

oakland on May 10, 2011 at 6:11 PM

I love it when the “experts” tell us that they can control the earth’s climate via a theory which ignores the oceans, the clouds, and the sun…and focuses on a tiny amount of a gas which historically has never had any causal relationship to climate.

Climate modelling does consider each of these, to a greater or lesser degree. These major factors in climate are not “ignored”. Only the uninformed can make such a statement.

The “tiny” amount of carbon dioxide gas kept earth’s average temperature well above freezing.

oakland on May 10, 2011 at 6:14 PM

CO2 .039%
H2O .4%

Maybe they don’t understand this “climate” thing as well as they claim to?

That or they’re really good at science, but incompetent at questions as to “which number is bigger”?

gekkobear on May 10, 2011 at 1:45 PM

These facts may be true, but this is not the issue. That’s like saying that caution concerning dioxin exposure unnecessary because its LD-50 is only 0.0000002%.

oakland on May 10, 2011 at 6:22 PM

oakland – you’ve been drinking too much kool-aid.

AGW or whatever you’d care to call it is far, far, far from settled science, the furthest a rational person can go at this point is to say that humans contribute to planetary climate variation but the human contribution is minor.

As for the software models, they model what the modelers (and Hansen’s a pretty crappy programmer) believe, and the models results do not to date correlate with empirical observations. Ergo, there’s a lot more work to be done and what we’ve got to this point is nothing one could remotely base policy on.

JEM on May 10, 2011 at 7:32 PM

JEM on May 10, 2011 at 7:32 PM

No doubt, there is a lot of work to do. Climate modelling is improving all the time.

Nobody from my address said that the science is “settled” (science is never “settled”).

However, the evidence that humans are contributing (and not in a “minor” sense) significantly to global warming and climate change is becoming more and more compelling with the passing of time.

Time for action is now, before severe and irreversible damage occurs. This is prudence.

oakland on May 10, 2011 at 7:36 PM

Human impact on climate is Mann made.

Fighton03 on May 10, 2011 at 8:37 PM

We’re going to end up with either green totalitarianism that turns human beings into marionettes controlled by bureaucrats, or full-blown civil war.

Aitch748 on May 10, 2011 at 12:25 PM

Civil war or a Revolution to defend ourselves and the Constitution if we must. I hate to say it may need to happen and hope it does not ever come to that. I’ll be there if it does. God help us and our Republic.

PalmettoPatriot on May 10, 2011 at 8:49 PM

oakland on May 10, 2011 at 7:36 PM

Oakland as in CA? If so enough said. *g*

PalmettoPatriot on May 10, 2011 at 8:51 PM

NASA still employs Jim Hansen? Seriously?

It is clear to me that NASA has no regard for their own credibility.

underdog on May 10, 2011 at 11:04 PM

Hansen should be running a one box dog kennel in Pt Barrow Alaska. That he is still employed is an embarrassment. Perhaps we should toss NASA into the junk heap of history and let civilian space operations have their head.

{^_^}

herself on May 11, 2011 at 6:02 AM

Time for backwards @$$, third world marxism is now, before severe and irreversible damage occurs to us cultists’ reputations.

FTFY

MNHawk on May 11, 2011 at 7:36 AM

Hansen is a tool, and he’s close to becoming a verb.
Mann already has.

docjohn52 on May 14, 2011 at 4:43 AM