Gallup: For first time, majority of Republicans support third party
posted at 5:09 pm on May 9, 2011 by Allahpundit
Imagine what the numbers will be after the inevitable GOP cave on the debt ceiling.
This is the first time Gallup finds a significantly higher percentage of Republicans than Democrats in favor of a third party. During much of President Bush’s term, the opposite was true, with Democrats more likely to favor the formation of a third party. That gap narrowed in 2007, after the Democrats’ victories in the 2006 midterms, and there has been a minimal difference between the two parties until the current poll.
The increase in Republican support for a third party since 2008 could be an outgrowth of the Tea Party movement, which is closely aligned with the GOP. The poll, which also assessed Americans’ orientation toward the movement, finds 60% of those who identify themselves as Tea Party supporters in favor of a third party, compared with 44% of Tea Party opponents. The opinions of those who say they are neither supporters nor opponents fall in between those of the two groups.
The partisan trend lines are dramatic, especially the GOP’s, but curiously — and despite heavy tea party support for a third party — there’s no corresponding split in ideology. Liberals, moderates, and conservatives are all at either 51 or 52 percent, and support for a third party has declined among all three groups since last year. What gives?

My assumption is that partisan support for a third party should spike when a party is out of power and has nothing to lose by splitting (or flirting with splitting) over ideology. That’s what you’re seeing, I think, in the Democratic trend line from 2003 to 2006: Anti-war liberals were frustrated that their leadership hadn’t done more to check Bush and to convince the public that progressivism is the truth, the light, and the way, so they fantasized about going rogue. Once Democrats took back Congress, they put that aside and focused on influencing the new congressional majority. And indeed, you see a dip from 2006 to 2008, when Pelosi took over and everyone rallied behind their party’s nominee in a presidential election year. Conversely, partisan support for a third party should crater when a party is in power and looking to hold together to preserve its legislative majority — or so I would have guessed. But neither the Democratic nor the Republican trend line follows that prediction. From 2008 to 2010, despite total control of government, Democrats’ support for a third party rose seven points. Republican support for a third party also rose by seven points when they had total control of government from 2003 to 2006; my hunch is that’s because conservatives rallied around Bush after 9/11 and the invasion of Iraq, which artificially depressed third-party support at the beginning of the decade. But check out the numbers from 2010 to 2011, after the great tea party tidal wave: An increase of five points, notwithstanding the fact that Boehner and company now have de facto veto power over the Democratic agenda.
The takeaway here, I assume, is that neither party’s base trusts its leadership much anymore. Republicans are probably irritated at the slow pace of spending cuts after the big GOP victory, especially after Boehner had to come down from his $100 billion pledge in reaching a deal with Obama and Reid. Democrats, meanwhile, were disappointed in Obama’s first two years in office, maybe because of the economy’s sluggishness (the stimulus wasn’t big enough!), maybe because he’s basically been Bush 44 on most counterterrorism matters, or maybe because ObamaCare isn’t quite the single-payer socialist system (yet) that they’ve dreamed about. Granted, their support for a third party cratered after the GOP’s victory in November, but I take it that’s less because of newfound satisfaction with O than from abject terror that the country’s turned against their agenda and therefore they can’t afford to dilute their strength at a precarious moment. And yet, and yet, I can’t reconcile any of that with the stasis in the numbers by ideology. Shouldn’t conservative support for a third party be leaping from disappointment with the House on budgetary matters? In fact, it’s actually dropped slightly since last year. Any theories?
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Our government is a joke, a clown-packed joke. THIS is what all those Americans fought and died for during the Revo War, to create an institution full of retards like Bark and Napolitano? What a waste.
Bishop on April 11, 2013 at 8:45 AM
Cripe
cmsinaz on April 11, 2013 at 8:46 AM
Sequester did not reduce federal spending. It lowered the amount of increase YoY.
And of course the elite will eat well and have their circuses while the peons struggle. That’s the script so what is shocking about it?
I guess rubbing our noses in it does go a bit too far.
platypus on April 11, 2013 at 8:46 AM
Maybe the concept of “next shift” is being upgraded to “Changing Of The Guard”.
pilamaye on April 11, 2013 at 8:47 AM
Well, they’ve got to “blow” something…..
ToddPA on April 11, 2013 at 8:48 AM
And dear leaders budget brings those cuts back in….
Cuts?
cmsinaz on April 11, 2013 at 8:48 AM
The answer is the same as always: because they can. Impunity brings contempt. In a year or two, we will stop pretending to be shocked by such juicy tidbits, and turn into a perfect flock of sheep in anything but appearances.
Archivarix on April 11, 2013 at 8:52 AM
Bishop,
Spot on.
Can you imagine being a youth today that was going to sign up and give up some of the best years of your life, risk death and injury and the hardship of the military life for this?
It is a testimonial to the true greatness of our men/women in service. They continueto serve and love our country in spite of these people undermining the constitution and our lifestyle just so they can push their satanic beliefs on all of us.
acyl72 on April 11, 2013 at 8:52 AM
GAYS / GUNS / AMNESTY.
Today, it’s “GUNS”……….Hot Air Warriors, assume the positions.
Melllllllllllllllt the phonnnnnnnnnnnes!
PappyD61 on April 11, 2013 at 8:52 AM
The order has been cancelled according to Drudge. I guess there are some things even progressives can’t justify.
Naturally Curly on April 11, 2013 at 8:54 AM
Maybe they need the bag-pipers to lead the march of the
redbrown coats, with their 2 billion rounds of hollow-point ammo.Dasher on April 11, 2013 at 8:55 AM
It could be the reason that DHS is able to afford this because the USCIS earns income for the Department.
NorthernCross on April 11, 2013 at 9:00 AM
Meanwhile the Thunderbirds and Blue Angels are grounded.
ErnstBlofeld on April 11, 2013 at 9:01 AM
Nothing shows DHS priorities like a bunch of guys playing agony bags. Canceled or not, just the notion they planned to spend that money in the first place should offend the daylights out of every American.
“Secure the border? What border?”
Liam on April 11, 2013 at 9:06 AM
Interestingly, the photo for this little story is named bagpipes-fatbastard. Can’t get more descriptive than that! BTW, you have to perfect the Scottish brogue rolling “r” for the “tard” part.
ExpressoBold on April 11, 2013 at 9:09 AM
Getting caught’s a b*tch, huh Janet.
petefrt on April 11, 2013 at 9:15 AM
Umm, guys, the notice is a Cancellation of the offer.
Cricket624 on April 11, 2013 at 9:17 AM
oops, should have read the last few posts. Sorry.
Cricket624 on April 11, 2013 at 9:18 AM
Perhaps Big Sis got a call from on high telling her that unless she wants to be on a steady diet of Haggis for the duration of her term in office, she better cancel that order.
pilamaye on April 11, 2013 at 9:18 AM
That, or they are pushing pushing pushing us to snap, and something terrible will happen.
Followed by a governmental iron fist.
/tinfoil hat off
tru2tx on April 11, 2013 at 9:19 AM
I can barely imagine and give great credit to today’s men and women serving in the face of the dopes who are their civilian command. Honestly I also give credit to the normal people who work in the TSA too, they aren’t all groping rejects, some of them really do care about being professional but their high command is a joke.
I served in the military under Reagan and I felt like a million dollars for doing so because the country was one giant promise of success at the time. Sam Kinnison said it best: “This is America! Reagan is President and Clint Eastwood (mayor of Carmel, CA) has his own police force!”
Now? Now it’s like we’re all waiting for something big and doomful to occur, we’re expecting it at least I am.
Bishop on April 11, 2013 at 9:23 AM
Good lord, these Obama shyster politicians are ripping us off as fast as they can spend the money.
rplat on April 11, 2013 at 9:23 AM
HA! Freaking awesome!
Ed, that is priceless! I’m stealing that one.
Patriot Vet on April 11, 2013 at 9:25 AM
Well FWIW, that’s a few less windbags in DC.
lynncgb on April 11, 2013 at 9:31 AM
DHS is a slow motion, bag pipe honking, sad clown posse, feeling up your private parts.
Catahoula on April 11, 2013 at 9:31 AM
U.S. Coast Guard Pipe Band (Atlanta Detachment) comes under The Department of Homeland Security.
What this dose show is the SPEED of INCOMPLETE reporting that can run through the internet. Just as important is The Department of Homeland Security is to big and has it’s fingers into to many areas.
jpcpt03 on April 11, 2013 at 9:41 AM
Guess Janet wants her own band, just like the President.
GarandFan on April 11, 2013 at 9:41 AM
I suspect they wanted to be like the military branches, with their various Dud & Bungle Corps; or like some police forces, where you can see the bagpipe band decked out for funeral processions and the occasional holiday parade. Because, really, they’re jealous – jealous of all these other organizations that have credibility and respect from the people (and can look really snazzy in a parade!). Of course, those other organizations didn’t come into existence with one of their main functions being a violation of our Constitutional rights (TSA).
GWB on April 11, 2013 at 9:43 AM
Go for it! Ed stole it from Jay Leno.
SagebrushPuppet on April 11, 2013 at 9:45 AM
Because they are decidedly more popular with the American people than the DHS.
CurtZHP on April 11, 2013 at 9:46 AM
Oh, and….
TROLL FREE THREAD!!
CurtZHP on April 11, 2013 at 9:46 AM
Bid was put out April 10, 10:03 a.m.
Bid was modified to cancelled April 11, 8:11 a.m.
I guess “just some bloggers” managed to make a change. This would have gone through if some daylight hadn’t been shined on it.
osborn4 on April 11, 2013 at 9:53 AM
Might just work. I happened to be driving through a small town near Aberdeen one Saturday when they were holding a regional bagpipe corps competition. The sound surely would have driven the English back to where they belong.
Happy Nomad on April 11, 2013 at 9:55 AM
Never underestimate the value of mock-worthy reporting.
Happy Nomad on April 11, 2013 at 9:56 AM
Here’s an idea: reinstate the cancelled order for the pipes and fire Janet Napolitano. Then play the pipes 24/7 on our borders. It worked for Scotland to turn the Romans away.
Lourdes on April 11, 2013 at 9:57 AM
Every year on the Sul Ross campus in Texas they have a memorial for all the fallen or injured members of the BP and the local law enforcement in the previous year.
Bagpipes are always on hand to play, usually Amazing Grace. Bagpipers are always present at such events. Around the country.
This is a long standing tradition for servicemen and law enforcement, firefighters etc.
So I think we should cut them some slack on this one. I am pleased that this purchase, which I don’t know is necessary or not, at least comports with long honored traditions supporting the service of BP and law enforcement. Heavens knows they are getting screwed so many other ways, at least they deserve a proper send off.
tlclark on April 11, 2013 at 9:58 AM
Being of a notable Clan’s lineage, my mother used to play records of the pipes bein’ played and all our dachsunds would howl and run around in circles and car horns outside would start a-honkin’ and, well, there’s meaning in the pipes.
Lourdes on April 11, 2013 at 10:00 AM
It’s early for this, but, well, some of us have been awake already for a while, so, here it is:
http://youtu.be/_a3FCugMNZE
AC/DC’s Bon Scott Plays the Bagpipes 1976
Lourdes on April 11, 2013 at 10:05 AM
Is DHS for real? Id Obama really for all of America? I think not.
karlinsync on April 11, 2013 at 10:05 AM
Just another Alinskliite shoving their thumb in your eye.
F these people.
Damn them to hell.
tom daschle concerned on April 11, 2013 at 10:08 AM
Hey, now…I like the pipes. :)
But why is DHS buying them?!
Bob's Kid on April 11, 2013 at 10:13 AM
And they suddenly need a whole new ensemble? Baloney. They probably already have a supplier, as well. There’s only a need to put this out on fbo.gov because it’s a big, all-in-one purchase.
GWB on April 11, 2013 at 10:13 AM
I agree as to the “Obama and personnel” aspect of this, even if the attempted purchase was for rightly resupply or refurbishing reasons. Obama created his monster for purposes of destruction of others — his “sequestration” concept — and it backfired on him, as all monsters eventually do to their evil creators.
Lourdes on April 11, 2013 at 10:13 AM
I actually like bagpipes. But this is ridiculous.
WannabeAnglican on April 11, 2013 at 10:21 AM
Well that’s what you get for exposing those little German dogs to Scottish music.
Happy Nomad on April 11, 2013 at 10:23 AM
Drudge is reporting this order is now cancelled. I guess this was too embarrassing even for the Obama Regime.
And I can you CAN stop the music. :)
WannabeAnglican on April 11, 2013 at 10:26 AM
Title shoule be updated.
Great news: Sequester doesn’t stop DHS Bagpipe CorpsEven Greater News: Bloggers DO stop DHS Bagpipe Corps
osborn4 on April 11, 2013 at 10:37 AM
In competent hands I admit to liking bagpipe music in short doses. My uncle’s Army funeral included the pipes and it was beautiful actually.
Bishop on April 11, 2013 at 10:37 AM
In my city the Fiesta fireworks at Ft Sam have been cancelled, and so has the November Airshow. Not vital functions, but two things that I look forward to every year.
juliesa on April 11, 2013 at 10:38 AM
Who stole it from Rush.
LeftCoastRight on April 11, 2013 at 10:48 AM
Would it be a violation of the separation of church & state to ask the DHS to play “Amazing Grace” at America’s funeral?
hoosiermama on April 11, 2013 at 10:58 AM
DHS must have thought it was going to have an uptick in funerals, then changed its mind. Or something.
What’s the difference between an bagpipe and an onion?
No tears are shed while cutting up a bagpipe.
Akzed on April 11, 2013 at 10:59 AM
Private Pipers buy their own pipes with their own money. The government shouldn’t be buying pipes for pipers.
LoganSix on April 11, 2013 at 11:02 AM
USCG used to be a part of DOT, but was moved to DHS after the original 9/11.
Del Dolemonte on April 11, 2013 at 11:24 AM
You haven’t lived until you’ve heard “8 Miles High” (The Byrds) done on jazz bagpipes. Rufus Harley!
Del Dolemonte on April 11, 2013 at 11:28 AM
I’m surprised they don’t have mariachi bands to welcome America’s undocumented Democrats.
Buy Danish on April 11, 2013 at 12:35 PM
Wow. This additional gem is from the GSA website:
I’m surprised 8 track players and whale oil aren’t on the list of classification codes.
Buy Danish on April 11, 2013 at 12:51 PM
Learn from this:
Department of Homeland Security is just to damn big an complex.
The Government has created such a complex bureaucratic system that it is nearly impossible to understand.
The contract was not canceled. It was moved to 100% small business minority owned set-aside. Only one interested company,
Sam Katabji from B & H International, Bakerfield, Ca
their company statement reads
“Welcome to B & H. We are a small woman owned business dedicated to fulfilling the procurement needs of the United States Armed Forces and other DOD agencies wherever they might be stationed around the world.”
jpcpt03 on April 11, 2013 at 1:40 PM
Like I said, DHS et al are seemingly preparing for an uptick in funerals, and I don’t think they’d be sending pipers to the funerals of their victims to play Amazing Grace.
Therefore, they foresee enough casualties on their side to keep all these pipers busy.
Akzed on April 11, 2013 at 1:56 PM
FWIW
Re: “Undocumented democrats” I first heard it on the Howie Carr radio show from Boston, even before I heard it on Rush.
gbear on April 11, 2013 at 4:20 PM
This Company B & H international may be a great outfit and totally up front.
BUT:
1. They have no background in BagPipes.
2. They are a middle man drop shipper.
3. They get special considerations in procurement because they have a minority woman as owner.
4. They only have 4 employees.
5. They will go online and by the items.
6. They will mark up the items.
7. The Government will pay what ever they are told to pay.
8. No open bidding, no over sight, no questions asked.
This looks like what is referred to as a “funnel company”. Over priced payments go in and a new non approved defense endeavor comes out.
Wake up you silly rabbits, you didn’t shut down anything.
All you “News” agency out their missed the real story by a mile.
jpcpt03 on April 11, 2013 at 6:16 PM
The great Scottish tradition of groping others while they wait in line is also followed over at DHS, too. Just ask anyone who has dealt with the TSA at an airport checkpoint.
famous amos on April 11, 2013 at 6:18 PM