Luntz focus group landslide: Herman Cain won the debate

posted at 4:12 pm on May 6, 2011 by Allahpundit

Via Johnny Dollar, so overwhelming is the reaction that Luntz is visibly taken aback. I thought Cain did well but never would have guessed that he connected this deeply. But then, he was the only true grassroots conservative onstage. Paul and Johnson are off-the-beaten-path libertarians, Santorum is an ex-Senator regarded by many (unfairly) as a one-dimensional social con, and Pawlenty is an establishment fave whose goal is to play it safe to preserve his core virtue of electability. Cain’s the one guy among them who’s in sync with the base across the board, plus he has the virtue of being the only one who hasn’t held elected office. If you’re looking for a political outsider, look no further. Cain’s also a radio host and frequent public speaker so he’s probably the most practiced, accomplished communicator among the five. That was a valuable advantage, especially with that group setting the bar low. And — here’s my half-assed pet theory — it could be that he benefited from being the only southern candidate onstage, either because some in the audience knew that he’s from Georgia or because they picked up regional cues in his accent, choice of idioms, etc. (Yes, I know Paul is from Texas, but he grew up in Pennsylvania and isn’t a conventional Texas Republican.) Liberals will scoff at the idea of a South Carolina audience favoring a black candidate over four white ones simply because he’s from the south, but SC just elected Tim Scott and Nikki Haley in November and Allen West is probably the biggest grassroots rock star in conservative America these days. I don’t like regional politics as a rule, but given the way righties are frequently demagogued as racist, it’s sweet to think that Herman Cain could have had de facto home field advantage — in South Carolina.

The best evidence that he made a mark last night isn’t the video, actually. It’s the fact that a person or persons unknown started circulating oppo research on him today. Did you know that he wrote a column around the time that TARP passed defending limited bank stock purchases by the feds? Heart-ache.

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racists. the whole lot.

bloghooligan on May 6, 2011 at 4:13 PM

The best evidence that he made a mark last night isn’t the video, actually. It’s the fact that person or persons unknown started circulating oppo research on him today.

Bingo. There is no redder flag.

Kataklysmic on May 6, 2011 at 4:15 PM

I hadn’t heard of him before the debate, but was pleasantly surprised. He was very engaging and had decent monetary views. I wish he was clearer on Afghanistan, but I understand where he was coming from. Got me interested enough to watch his full CPAC speech on youtube

offroadaz on May 6, 2011 at 4:16 PM

Raising Cain?

Sounds fun.

65droptop on May 6, 2011 at 4:17 PM

You knew that was gonna happen..oppo research

Welcome to the club Cain!

cmsinaz on May 6, 2011 at 4:18 PM

“You’re running for president,” Baier said to Cain. “After almost ten years in Afghanistan, you don’t have your own plan yet about what you would do in Afghanistan?”

“No,” Cain answered. ‘Because it’s not clear what the mission is. That’s the bigger problem. It’s not clear what the mission is…”

Baier followed up: “How would you define winning in Afghanistan right now, as you’re looking at it as a candidate?”

“My point is,” Cain explained, “the experts and their advice and their input would be the basis for me making that decision. I’m not privy to a lot of confidential information.”

Cain did well but this answer really sucked as did his unwillingness to show the OBL photo’s.

Mitt Daniels got raked over the coals for a very similar remark with good reason.

He did well, but not as well as many are saying.

sharrukin on May 6, 2011 at 4:18 PM

Bingo. There is no redder flag.

Yep. Makes me smile, oh yes indeedy.

Bob's Kid on May 6, 2011 at 4:18 PM

Herman Cain is steadily moving upwards in the polls and I couldn’t be happier. We need warrior to take on obama and Cain seems unafraid to call it like he sees it without worrying about not being PC. It’s time for a populist candidate in the White House.

Conservalicious on May 6, 2011 at 4:18 PM

Have pan, see flash

Kini on May 6, 2011 at 4:19 PM

ROFLMAO!!!!
yea what bloghooligan said!
that was just too damn funny.
I spit my coffee out.
thanks for the belly laugh.

ColdWarrior57 on May 6, 2011 at 4:20 PM

a boy among babies

joepub on May 6, 2011 at 4:21 PM

I have been a fan of Herman Cain for a number of years. Loved to listen when he was a fill-in host for Neal Boortz. I have high hopes for him. He would take away the argument that Repubs don’t like Obama simply because he is black.

ConservativeMom on May 6, 2011 at 4:21 PM

He supported Romney last time around. If Cain keeps making friends like this, I can see Romney tapping him for the VP slot, and saying he’ll put him in charge of jobs creation.

Rational Thought on May 6, 2011 at 4:21 PM

Palin/Cain 2012!

Kafir on May 6, 2011 at 4:24 PM

no palin

im shallow and cant stand listening to her talk

offroadaz on May 6, 2011 at 4:25 PM

Clearly, this result is not legitimate because Ron Paul supporters were not able to spam the poll.

/Spathi

stefanite on May 6, 2011 at 4:25 PM

Ron Paul was the clear winner in that debate despite a hostile Fox News environment.
Spathi on May 6, 2011 at 8:42 AM
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Ron Paul could have shown up for the event wearing nothing but stained boxer shorts and a smile, eaten an entire loaf of bread at the podium, and answered “I like turtles!” to every question, and you would STILL claim he won the debate.

Bishop on May 6, 2011 at 8:53 AM

I’m re-posting this for those who missed this gem of a post this morning.

Jerome Horwitz on May 6, 2011 at 4:26 PM

Cain made a favorable impression on me last night (for the short time I watched). I still don’t know much about him, yet. Looks good, though.

jaime on May 6, 2011 at 4:26 PM

Did you know that he wrote a column around the time that TARP passed defending limited bank stock purchases by the feds? Heart-ache.

Cain is now officially stricken from my list.

steebo77 on May 6, 2011 at 4:27 PM

Read on Market-Ticker that Cain used to be a Fed Reserve Bank Chair.

SnowSun on May 6, 2011 at 4:28 PM

I don’t trust political focus groups that say they are unbiased.

MikeknaJ on May 6, 2011 at 4:29 PM

a boy among babies

joepub on May 6, 2011 at 4:21 PM

He said “Boy,” but what I really heard him say was “Boy,” IFYKWIMAITYD.

steebo77 on May 6, 2011 at 4:29 PM

I always thought a Herman Cain primary win was a pipe dream. But if last night’s focus group wasn’t a fluke, then who knows? He clearly outclassed the 2nd tier candidates who shared the stage with him. The question becomes can he hold his own against the 1st tier? It’s not outside the realm of possibility.

The presumptive frontrunner is Romney. You know conservatives and Tea Partiers alike would love for anyone but him(and Huckster for that matter) to be the nominee. Mittens will have a lot of money though, so that’ll give him a huge edge in the primaries. Newt? I’ve never believed he had a shot at the nomination. He’s 1st tier based on his resume and name recognition alone, but he has too much baggage to gain any traction. Huckster? Overrated and overhyped by the drive-bys. Besides, he may not even run. Bachmann? I don’t think she’s serious about being President. This is about raising her profile. Trump? Give me a break. If the choice is him or Cain, Cain will win hands down. Both are successful businessmen, but only one can truly claim to have walked the walk when it comes to being a conservative.

The real X factor is Palin. If she runs, Cain’s status as Tea Party and grassroots favorite takes a backseat to her. Plus she’ll raise way more money than he ever will. Here’s a thought out of left field though. What if Palin decides not to run….and endorses Herman Cain? Crazy, I know. But who else from the field of prospective candidates would she prefer?

Doughboy on May 6, 2011 at 4:29 PM

Have pan, see flash

Kini

You don’t know the origin of the phrase, do you?

chimney sweep on May 6, 2011 at 4:31 PM

Sean Hannity should PUT THE PEN DOWN and realize that WE DON’T WANT HIS FRIEND NEWT GINGRICH. He couldn’t resist defending why the “repeat adulterer Newt” wasn’t there at the debate.
And Sean – we really don’t CARE where you are – you say the same thing over and over again and your talking points are what you heard from other people – NOTHING NEW WITH YOU!!

IlonaE on May 6, 2011 at 4:31 PM

Cain did well but this answer really sucked as did his unwillingness to show the OBL photo’s.

Mitt Daniels got raked over the coals for a very similar remark with good reason.

He did well, but not as well as many are saying.

sharrukin on May 6, 2011 at 4:18 PM

Mitt Daniels? Do you mean Mitch Daniels or Mitt Romney?

Herman Cain did extremely well with the question about whether a President can affect oil prices. Cain answered that oil prices are affected by drillers, refiners, and speculators, and when the Government allows the first two to tap America’s resources, the speculators will drive the price DOWN. Simple, clear, and right on the money.

Maybe it takes a businessman to find such an answer. After all, George W. Bush was an oilman, and following his lifting the drilling ban in July 2008, oil prices plunged by 60% in 6 months. Sarah Palin, take note!

Steve Z on May 6, 2011 at 4:32 PM

I don’t trust political focus groups that say they are unbiased.

MikeknaJ on May 6, 2011 at 4:29 PM

+1

sharrukin on May 6, 2011 at 4:32 PM

Raising Cain?

Sounds fun.

65droptop on May 6, 2011 at 4:17 PM

+1

John the Libertarian on May 6, 2011 at 4:32 PM

I’m re-posting this for those who missed this gem of a post this morning.

Jerome Horwitz on May 6, 2011 at 4:26 PM

Thank you. I can’t wait for the next open registration just to read Bishop’s posts.

Kataklysmic on May 6, 2011 at 4:33 PM

What if Palin decides not to run….and endorses Herman Cain? Crazy, I know. But who else from the field of prospective candidates would she prefer?

Doughboy on May 6, 2011 at 4:29 PM

More likely she runs, Cain drops out and endorses her and she picks Cain as veep.

alwaysfiredup on May 6, 2011 at 4:33 PM

Mitt Daniels? Do you mean Mitch Daniels or Mitt Romney?

Steve Z on May 6, 2011 at 4:32 PM

Sorry.
In my defense they are easy to get mixed up.

sharrukin on May 6, 2011 at 4:34 PM

Santorum is an ex-Senator regarded by many (unfairly) as a one-dimensional social con

It’s unfair to call a guy who argues against the right to privacy a one-dimensional social con?

…kay. I thought you were supposed to be the RINO.

MadisonConservative on May 6, 2011 at 4:34 PM

Cain’s also a radio host and frequent public speaker so he’s probably the most practiced, accomplished communicator among the five.

Because if there’s one thing politicians don’t do, it’s talk.

/eyeroll

Abby Adams on May 6, 2011 at 4:34 PM

Considering he’s my number 2 choice, this is good news.

NoLeftTurn on May 6, 2011 at 4:35 PM

I’ve been following Herman about 11 yrs. We Georgians like him a lot. He’s a good man.

di butler on May 6, 2011 at 4:35 PM

Some mix of these 4: Santorum, Bachmann, Cain and West. ANd I don’t really care about who’s what in that.

Don’t underestimate the boost for Cain here, considering how soft the supposed 1st tier support is.

michaelo on May 6, 2011 at 4:35 PM

Cain has about a 1 1/2 years to polish up and to get a better grasp on foreign policy.

mizflame98 on May 6, 2011 at 4:37 PM

You don’t know the origin of the phrase, do you?

chimney sweep on May 6, 2011 at 4:31 PM

Flash in the pan…

Fallon on May 6, 2011 at 4:38 PM

Ron Paul was the clear winner in that debate despite a hostile Fox News environment.
Spathi on May 6, 2011 at 8:42 AM
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Ron Paul could have shown up for the event wearing nothing but stained boxer shorts and a smile, eaten an entire loaf of bread at the podium, and answered “I like turtles!” to every question, and you would STILL claim he won the debate.

Bishop on May 6, 2011 at 8:53 AM

*tips hat*

MadisonConservative on May 6, 2011 at 4:39 PM

At a Tea Party conference attended last year, Herman Cain had non-believers up on their feet shouting, “Amen!”

The focus group reaction last night which resonated the loudest: “He doesn’t talk like a politician.”

publiuspen on May 6, 2011 at 4:40 PM

Mittens will have a lot of money though, so that’ll give him a huge edge in the primaries.

Most of the data I’ve seen on money in politics shows that money can buy you name recognition and that’s about all (assuming a system where you can’t literally bribe & buy your way into office).

Romney is already fairly well known from his last run. His money will gain him a bit more exposure, but, that’s it. His primary win (or loss) will depend on what he does with that exposure.

JadeNYU on May 6, 2011 at 4:43 PM

Santorum is an ex-Senator regarded by many (unfairly) as a one-dimensional social con

Unknown to a lot of people, Santorum floated a bill (which never got out of committee) to essentially remove the public’s access to National Weather Service data (or at least obfuscate it enough to not be worth the effort). It was in response to Accuweather (that junk forecast outfit from State College – with the minor exception of Joe Bastardi) complaining that releasing the data in XML format to the public would affect their business, and therefore, they should have exclusive rights to the taxpayer funded data.

Being an amateur meteorologist, that inflamed me beyond belief. It just goes to show that Republicans engage in a lot of the same bad behavior as the Dems.

Watch all of these guys close.

cktheman on May 6, 2011 at 4:43 PM

I didn’t watch the debate, but I followed it somewhat on twitter. Most of the bloggers I follow had Cain winning hands down. T-Paw apparently made a good showing, too. Paul pleased only his disciples, Santorum was eh, and Johnson (?) seemed out of place. So say the twitter Gods….

joejm65 on May 6, 2011 at 4:44 PM

Luntz focus group landslide: Herman Cain won the debate

Great, this will raise his profile.

The best evidence that he made a mark last night isn’t the video, actually. It’s the fact that a person or persons unknown started circulating oppo research on him today.

So the Cain bashing begins, that means opponents are starting to take notice.

Heart-ache.

As we say in the South, y’all hush!

rukiddingme on May 6, 2011 at 4:44 PM

Most of the data I’ve seen on money in politics shows that money can buy you name recognition and that’s about all (assuming a system where you can’t literally bribe & buy your way into office).

Romney is already fairly well known from his last run. His money will gain him a bit more exposure, but, that’s it. His primary win (or loss) will depend on what he does with that exposure.

JadeNYU on May 6, 2011 at 4:43 PM

It won’t be enough for Mittens to win the nomination IMO. But it could be enough to keep him well ahead of Cain in the primaries.

Doughboy on May 6, 2011 at 4:45 PM

Cain’s the one guy among them who’s in sync with the base across the board

Except for that not showing the UBL photo thing.

sleepy-beans on May 6, 2011 at 4:45 PM

Pennsylvanian Rick Santorum recently won a South Carolina straw poll, so I believe conservative convictions are trumping regional bias in Cain’s perceived victory.

Herman Cain served as the Chairman and Vice Chairman of the Kansas City Federal Reserve, so I have no doubt he can and will explain his rationale on limited bank purchases by the Feds.

Terrie on May 6, 2011 at 4:45 PM

Cain was excellent last night as were Santorun and Pawlenty. Huckabee may as well drop out along with Romney, Paul, Trump, and Johnson.

fourdeucer on May 6, 2011 at 4:46 PM

Unknown to a lot of people, Santorum floated a bill (which never got out of committee) to essentially remove the public’s access to National Weather Service data (or at least obfuscate it enough to not be worth the effort). It was in response to Accuweather (that junk forecast outfit from State College – with the minor exception of Joe Bastardi) complaining that releasing the data in XML format to the public would affect their business, and therefore, they should have exclusive rights to the taxpayer funded data.

Being an amateur meteorologist, that inflamed me beyond belief. It just goes to show that Republicans engage in a lot of the same bad behavior as the Dems.

Watch all of these guys close.

cktheman on May 6, 2011 at 4:43 PM

Yep. He does the same kind of thing with animal rights…tried pushing through a bill that would allow the government more power to invade private businesses and homes. He’s nothing but a big-government control freak who wants to use his power to get into your bedroom and tell you what to do.

MadisonConservative on May 6, 2011 at 4:46 PM

More likely she runs, Cain drops out and endorses her and she picks Cain as veep.

alwaysfiredup on May 6, 2011 at 4:33 PM

The posters for that lineup are already made, and they are awesome.

NTWR on May 6, 2011 at 4:47 PM

Newt is well known in Georgia, and everybody hates him. Herman is well known in Georgia and everybody loves him. Newt is always on another ego trip. Herman is always trying to make something good happen for us, like a Flat Tax, and he is a better politician than History Professor Gingrich.

jimw on May 6, 2011 at 4:47 PM

cktheman on May 6, 2011 at 4:43 PM

Really? Any more info? Bill number, etc.?

Abby Adams on May 6, 2011 at 4:49 PM

More likely she runs, Cain drops out and endorses her and she picks Cain as veep.

alwaysfiredup on May 6, 2011 at 4:33 PM

Ooh, do you suppose he’s a stalking horse for Palin? They have a deal where she uses him to test the waters before jumping in? Hmmmm, very interesting.

Kafir on May 6, 2011 at 4:50 PM

Here’s the weather bill, and here’s the animal rights bill. Plenty more juicy vittles to snack on in the wiki article, but none of them taste any good.

MadisonConservative on May 6, 2011 at 4:50 PM

Agh, the above post was for:

Really? Any more info? Bill number, etc.?

Abby Adams on May 6, 2011 at 4:49 PM

MadisonConservative on May 6, 2011 at 4:50 PM

Cain did well but this answer really sucked …

sharrukin on May 6, 2011 at 4:18 PM

So, a man doesn’t claim to have all the answers, but he knows the right questions. And the problem with this is …

manwithblackhat on May 6, 2011 at 4:50 PM

jimw on May 6, 2011 at 4:47 PM

I believe Cain supports Fair Tax (% on sales) which is different than Flat Tax (% on income).

publiuspen on May 6, 2011 at 4:52 PM

***

T-Paw apparently made a good showing, too.

***

joejm65 on May 6, 2011 at 4:44 PM

I thought Pawlenty was lunchy. I seemed to mishandle questions about some MN cap-and-tax legislation, MN budgeting, and creationism. Beyond that, in a debate, I don’t care to hear his bio while he tries to assemble his answer in his head. He did it at least twice, and he sounded like a pull-string doll both times.

The guy is Milt Milquetoast when we need Rocky Balboa, someone who can take a punch from Dems, but deliver a more devastating punch right back at them.

BuckeyeSam on May 6, 2011 at 4:52 PM

Showing the Osama bloody corpse is not good leadership. Do a risk analysis: showing it accomplishes no good and great harm. Not showing it causes no good and no harm…unless there is a harm in the benefit to crafty Obama who gets to point at how much wiser he is than the Deathers.

jimw on May 6, 2011 at 4:53 PM

Maybe it takes a businessman to find such an answer. After all, George W. Bush was an oilman, and following his lifting the drilling ban in July 2008, oil prices plunged by 60% in 6 months. Sarah Palin, take note!

Steve Z on May 6, 2011 at 4:32 PM

Either you’re missing a sarc tag, or haven’t read many of her Facebook posts, etc.

As to Cain- looks intriguing. IMHO, he’ll have to explain how a candidate who couldn’t win the 2004 GOP Senate primary in Georgia will be able to pull off an upset against other primary opponents & an incumbent POTUS, but I’m willing to listen to him make his case.

cs89 on May 6, 2011 at 4:53 PM

Some people said Santorum did the best; do these same people know his 2006 election result. Give Pawlenty some props, he did win that year against MN’s very popular attorney general.

IR-MN on May 6, 2011 at 4:55 PM

So, a man doesn’t claim to have all the answers, but he knows the right questions. And the problem with this is …

manwithblackhat on May 6, 2011 at 4:50 PM

If you don’t know after ten years what we should be doing in Afghanistan then maybe you aren’t ready for the big time. Things happen in office and making decisions as well as evaluating information cannot be done in a leisurely manner. We saw the problem with that when Obama had to make a decision and he kept trying to avoid doing so. Sometimes you only have days or hours.

That’s why it’s is a problem.

sharrukin on May 6, 2011 at 4:55 PM

Yeah, I’ve been voting for Cain in the Hot Air polls all along, so I am happy to see him doing well.

Cain/West people!

SittingDeadRed on May 6, 2011 at 4:56 PM

The posters for that lineup are already made, and they are awesome.

NTWR on May 6, 2011 at 4:47 PM

So cool!

idesign on May 6, 2011 at 4:56 PM

As far as who handled himself, and presented himself, best…I agree it was Cain. T-Paw seemed to scripted, Paul, well good for a chuckle or two, Santorum, too pandering, Johnson, Johnson who?

But at least it’s a start.

JetBoy on May 6, 2011 at 4:56 PM

As to Cain, just imagine if he would’ve beaten Isakson back when. He’s great for the debates and campaign, but that’s it.

IR-MN on May 6, 2011 at 4:56 PM

Ooh, do you suppose he’s a stalking horse for Palin? They have a deal where she uses him to test the waters before jumping in? Hmmmm, very interesting.

Kafir on May 6, 2011 at 4:50 PM

I doubt that. I think Cain’s serious about this. I don’t know if he thought he really stood a chance at the nomination, but we live in the YouTube era where viral videos can make people into stars overnight. Look what it did for Chris Christie and Allen West. So who’s to say Cain can’t get a huge boost in the polls if he keeps this up?

Doughboy on May 6, 2011 at 4:57 PM

I enjoyed the debate very much and did not think it was “thin” or dull or whatever particularly because it gave me the opportunity to rethink Cain as a candidate I once had written off as too obscure and inexperienced to have a chance.

I thought T-Paw did really well too and demonstrated a very presidential air.

If I had my way right now I would set the ticket at Cain/West 2012.

“Raise Cain and go West!”

I rather like the sound of that.

StubbleSpark on May 6, 2011 at 4:58 PM

I’d love to vote for Cain. He’s just the sort of non-government President that we need. All of the insiders will say he won’t know how to get things done in Washington. But that really means that he isn’t already on the take.

hawksruleva on May 6, 2011 at 4:58 PM

As to Cain, just imagine if he would’ve beaten Isakson back when. He’s great for the debates and campaign, but that’s it.

IR-MN on May 6, 2011 at 4:56 PM

Why toss him out? Conventional wisdom gave us McCain, and before that Bob Dole. If I ever see a ballot with Herman Cain’s name on it, he’s got my vote.

hawksruleva on May 6, 2011 at 5:00 PM

“Clear through the Muck and just give me Cain!”

No? All right, I’ll keep working at it….

princetrumpet on May 6, 2011 at 5:03 PM

This reminds me of the whole FRED! phenomenon. I am waiting for AP to start up the HERMAN! posts. He’s going to fizzle out, I’d wager.

Cain is pretty old. He’d be into his 70s in a first term. He also got schooled by that career politician RINO-tool Johnny Isakson in the GA Senate race. If he can’t knock off that tard, I don’t have much hope for him.

RW Wacko on May 6, 2011 at 5:03 PM

Herman did well..Rick and T-Paw didn’t do bad either!..:)

Dire Straits on May 6, 2011 at 5:04 PM

hawksruleva on May 6, 2011 at 5:00 PM

How’s he any different from Alan Keyes, ala 96-2000.

IR-MN on May 6, 2011 at 5:04 PM

Herman Cain at CPAC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZDkacOveF0

mizflame98 on May 6, 2011 at 5:06 PM

Herman Cain Allen West

Dream Team.

Key West Reader on May 6, 2011 at 5:11 PM

Johnson who?…

JetBoy on May 6, 2011 at 4:56 PM

You’re not familiar with Johnson ??

Jerome Horwitz on May 6, 2011 at 5:12 PM

End the Pain
Vote Herman Cain!

Key West Reader on May 6, 2011 at 5:12 PM

Santorum is an ex-Senator regarded by many (unfairly) as a one-dimensional social con…

Based on some of his responses, he sure came off that way.

The Ugly American on May 6, 2011 at 5:12 PM

“How’s he any different from Alan Keyes, ala 96-2000.”

IR-MN on May 6, 2011 at 5:04 PM
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Keyes was a politician, Cain a businessman. Cain was successful at his job.

Keyes was not pragmatic enough to understand his brand of social conservatism was a losing proposition. Cain is reasonable yet principled.

Keyes favored reparations for blacks, Cain does not.

Keyes made sense occasionally. Cain is far more consistently a common sense thinker.

princetrumpet on May 6, 2011 at 5:13 PM

Herman Cain is the only guy who can run against Obama whose supporters can’t be accused of racism. I gotta believe that’s a big factor.

Enrique on May 6, 2011 at 5:17 PM

My ticket pick was and remains Romney/Cain.

Looks like that may a good chance now.

The Ugly American on May 6, 2011 at 5:17 PM

Didn’t even have to watch the debate to know Cain would mop the floor with the morons he was going up against.

Cain looks damned good next to that bunch.

Problem is, Cain is WAY too inexperienced to be President.

He’s never run a city, never run a state. Like it or not, that’s a skill set a SUCCESSFUL President must have. Running a business and running a government are two different things.

Mitt Romney is a prime example of what happens when a “good” businessman tries his hand at government.

Cain was wrong when he capitulated on the continuing resolution, and he was wrong on releasing the UBL photo.

Cain has no foreign policy experience, nor does he seem to be formulating any sort of policy. You can’t farm that job out to advisers. Oh, you NEED advisers, for sure, but you better know what you are doing or it will be a disaster.

Cain would make an excellent Commerce Secretary, Treasury Secretary, maybe even Fed Chair. But President (or even VP) no way.

Sorry, but it is what it is. I like Cain and love to hear him speak, but that’s all he’s ever done. We need someone with a record of turning talk into accomplishments.

POSITIVE accomplishments.

So far, the only one who fits that bill is Sarah Palin, and she’s been doing it for 20 years.

gary4205 on May 6, 2011 at 5:17 PM

OT: Is anyone having a problem with Dashboard?..I can’t see recent comments for some reason..:)

Dire Straits on May 6, 2011 at 5:19 PM

End the Pain
Vote Herman Cain!

Key West Reader on May 6, 2011 at 5:12 PM

How about….

End the Pain, be the Best.

Vote Herman Cain and Allen West.

rukiddingme on May 6, 2011 at 5:23 PM

Figures that southern racist whites want to saddle another black man with the world’s worst job.

keep the change on May 6, 2011 at 5:23 PM

The response about Cain is also a response against the old party hacks that still do not seem to get it. People want a new party, one that responds to the folk and one that is not enamored with life in Washington. Old retreads are not the future. We want folk who will do what they were sent to Washington to do, not compromise those demands away in the name of compromise of for the shallow love of the beltway media.

JIMV on May 6, 2011 at 5:23 PM

Ron Paul was the clear winner in that debate despite a hostile Fox News environment.
Spathi on May 6, 2011 at 8:42 AM
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Ron Paul could have shown up for the event wearing nothing but stained boxer shorts and a smile, eaten an entire loaf of bread at the podium, and answered “I like turtles!” to every question, and you would STILL claim he won the debate.

Bishop on May 6, 2011 at 8:53 AM

*tips hat*

MadisonConservative on May 6, 2011 at 4:39 PM

Spathi is a nothing, but he’s a consistent nothing.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 6, 2011 at 5:23 PM

Herman Cain won the debate because he stole all of Palin’s talking points.

….unseen

Knucklehead on May 6, 2011 at 5:27 PM

Herman Cain is the only guy who can run against Obama whose supporters can’t be accused of racism. I gotta believe that’s a big factor.

Enrique on May 6, 2011 at 5:17 PM

Keep on fooling yourself with that nonsense. Remember democrats are on record wanting to torture SC Justice Clarence Thomas, then cut off his toes (!?!) and hang both him AND his wife.

They also have attacked the hell out of Allen West.

Choose someone based on RECORD, ABILITY, and matching what you believe, not race or gender.

gary4205 on May 6, 2011 at 5:28 PM

Herman Cain is the only guy who can run against Obama whose supporters can’t be accused of racism. I gotta believe that’s a big factor.

Enrique on May 6, 2011 at 5:17 PM

Herman Cain has and will continue to shoot holes in the race cards.

mizflame98 on May 6, 2011 at 5:29 PM

I am really happy that The Fair Tax is going to get discussed more.

ReneePA on May 6, 2011 at 5:30 PM

More likely she runs, Cain drops out and endorses her and she picks Cain as veep.

alwaysfiredup on May 6, 2011 at 4:33 PM

That would be a dream come true!

ReneePA on May 6, 2011 at 5:33 PM

Herm Cain won the debate, he deserves credit…
T-Paw came in second, he also gains some publicity…
Fox hosted a great debate…
win-win-wn…

mjbrooks3 on May 6, 2011 at 5:35 PM

Herman Cain has and will continue to shoot holes in the race cards.

mizflame98 on May 6, 2011 at 5:29 PM

Very good post!..I agree with you 100%!!..:)

Dire Straits on May 6, 2011 at 5:41 PM

It looks like the media has taken notice of Hermain Cain. Now an organization is saying he lied about his status as a political outsider because of his campaign donations and the fact he was a chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank in Kansas City.
http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2011/05/herman-cain-touts-outside-status.html

mizflame98 on May 6, 2011 at 5:42 PM

It looks like the media has taken notice of Hermain Cain. Now an organization is saying he lied about his status as a political outsider because of his campaign donations and the fact he was a chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank in Kansas City.
http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2011/05/herman-cain-touts-outside-status.html

mizflame98 on May 6, 2011 at 5:42 PM

And so it begins.

ReneePA on May 6, 2011 at 5:44 PM

Cain/Bolton

BitterClinger on May 6, 2011 at 5:47 PM

Herman Cain won the debate because he stole all of Palin’s talking points.

….unseen

Knucklehead on May 6, 2011 at 5:27 PM
Remember what I said about the butterflies and the kittens…

annoyinglittletwerp on May 6, 2011 at 5:50 PM

. Now an organization is saying he lied about his status as a political outsider because of his campaign donations and the fact he was a chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank in Kansas City.
mizflame98 on May 6, 2011 at 5:42 PM

He mentioned the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas last night and in other speeches. Old news.

And I was listening to WLS AM this afternoon, none of the talking heads (Roe Con, Don & Roma, Richard Roeper, Ron Magers) had ever heard of Cain until last night.

They all agreed they’d pull the lever for him and that he’s great. WLS is the number 1 talk radio in Chicago, they also broadcast Rush.

Knucklehead on May 6, 2011 at 5:50 PM

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