Is Jay Carney Floundering?

posted at 4:45 pm on May 5, 2011 by Jazz Shaw

Coming to us via Stephen Green, (Vodkapundit!) the latest rumor circulating the beltway this week. Is new presidential Press Secretary Jay Carney floundering in his new, very high visibility job?

There is increasing concern in Washington that Jay Carney, the new White House Press Secretary, isn’t up to the job. Even when faced with an innocuous question that requires only that he trot out the official line, he looks completely stunned, as if the questioner is Bob Woodward asking him about Deep Throat. He gathers himself, embarks on a stuttering reply, pauses for what seems like an eternity, then starts gabbling, tripping over his words, rephrasing what he’s just said, then looking plaintively back at the questioner as if to say, “How did I do? Was that okay? Or would you like me to try again?”

“I think he’s doing very badly,” says a political contact based in Washington. “And I’ve heard others say that he’s really struggling.”

First of all, the job of Press Secretary has really blown up far past its actual importance over the years as far as I’m concerned. This position ideally shouldn’t be one of anything more than what essentially amounts to a glorified recording secretary who has a great short term memory and the ability to reliably repeat what they are told. Give them the talking points and the news of the day as the administration wants to spin it, send them out to the podium, and feed that data to the press in response to their questions. Nobody cares about the PressSec’s personal opinions and he or she shouldn’t be expected to “wing it” or freestyle.

But they do have to present a certain level of confidence, speaking as they are for the most powerful office in the world. From the first day I had kind of wondered about Jay. Nice enough guy, I’m sure, but he always seemed a bit on the small / timid side behind that podium and his somewhat high pitched voice didn’t seem to carry all that much authority. I’m sure he could do better, but perhaps they’re just putting too much pressure on him.

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How do you expect him to do well when his job is to explain the flounderings of a moron?

DiogenesLamp on May 5, 2011 at 4:46 PM

I don’t think it’s Jay, it’s the administration he’s working for. It’s hard to go out there day after day and lie your ass off. Even Gibbsy figured this out…

davek70 on May 5, 2011 at 4:47 PM

How do you expect him to do well when his job is to explain the flounderings of a moron?

DiogenesLamp on May 5, 2011 at 4:46 PM

+1

HomeoftheBrave on May 5, 2011 at 4:47 PM

As much as it annoyed me, I guess Gibbsy’s smugness was a good attribute for the position.

txsurveyor on May 5, 2011 at 4:48 PM

Awwww…quit staring at him, you guys!

Fortunata on May 5, 2011 at 4:49 PM

Ya see, a bunch of boobs went and voted a bigger boob into office. Then this really big boob begins to surround himself with a bunch of really dopey boobs. It seems inconceivable, but I guess there really is a junior varsity boob team to pick from.

HomeoftheBrave on May 5, 2011 at 4:49 PM

Tony Snow was the gold standard.

NoNails on May 5, 2011 at 4:50 PM

Carney is about as adept as press secretary as I would be trying to block the Green Bay Packers defensive line.

bw222 on May 5, 2011 at 4:50 PM

Hard to sound confident when you don’t have answers to the questions people are asking. I don’t blame the press secretary for that.

hawksruleva on May 5, 2011 at 4:52 PM

How do you expect him to do well when his job is to explain the flounderings of a moron?

DiogenesLamp on May 5, 2011 at 4:46 PM

I am waiting for him to snap up there, just unload on the administration he respresents, and then watch him walk out.

WashJeff on May 5, 2011 at 4:52 PM

Lyin’ is harddddd!

Blake on May 5, 2011 at 4:53 PM

His boss is an Inept in Chief. However, this dude is dumber than Gibbsy. I thought I’d miss Gibbs, but this guy is waaaaay ‘better’. Let them.

Schadenfreude on May 5, 2011 at 4:54 PM

Coming behind a pompous, lying piece of sh!t like Gibbs, his comparative honesty is a huge liability.

Jaibones on May 5, 2011 at 4:54 PM

Obama assumed that having the media in his ars wasn’t enough. He needed to have a media spokestool.

“Smartest president, evaaaah”. He’s good for laughs, unfortunately for the country.

Schadenfreude on May 5, 2011 at 4:55 PM

Obama should hire a black press secretary.

The Press would immediately fall into line as they are crushed under the enormous weight of their eternal liberal, white guilt and thus will not question the new guy hard at all and go back to lobbing gentle softballs.

Problem solved!

Opposite Day on May 5, 2011 at 4:55 PM

Just give the guy one of Barry’s spare teleprompters and he’ll know what to say and be articulate… too.

RalphyBoy on May 5, 2011 at 4:56 PM

Ya see, a bunch of boobs went and voted a bigger boob into office. Then this really big boob begins to surround himself with a bunch of really dopey boobs. It seems inconceivable, but I guess there really is a junior varsity boob team to pick from.

HomeoftheBrave on May 5, 2011 at 4:49 PM

This reminds me of what they say about the Lottery.

“A Million stupid people making one Stupid person look like a genius.”

DiogenesLamp on May 5, 2011 at 4:56 PM

He’s just a mouthpiece, no worse than Gibbs. At least he doesn’t say ah or uh every other word. They are/were both in over their heads.

MJZZZ on May 5, 2011 at 4:56 PM

He’s honestly painful to watch. He comes across as the loser in a 8th grade debate tournament.

Vera on May 5, 2011 at 4:56 PM

Here’s a question for you… How bad do you have to be to make Robert Gibbs look competent?

teke184 on May 5, 2011 at 4:57 PM

When your boss is an incompetent fool, it’s hard to make him look good, no matter how hard you try.

angryed on May 5, 2011 at 4:58 PM

Obama started with a carnie as press secretary then replaced him with a Carney. I guess next we’ll have Zambora, the amazing ape-woman.

MaxMBJ on May 5, 2011 at 4:58 PM

I am waiting for him to snap up there, just unload on the administration he respresents, and then watch him walk out.

WashJeff on May 5, 2011 at 4:52 PM

This … I said this to the wife just the last few days.

deepdiver on May 5, 2011 at 4:58 PM

I think he seems to be uncomfortable repeating the information that he knows to be untrue. Gibbs and that Burton goon had no trouble with it

anniekc on May 5, 2011 at 4:58 PM

He looks like the kind of guy who had his glasses ripped off and stepped on too many times to count.

PattyJ on May 5, 2011 at 4:58 PM

Why do they need a press sec anyway, just do what they have been doing already. Just send the print press release to the MSM and if the answer is not there your question does not need to get answered. The dear leader does not answer questions from his subjects.

tjexcite on May 5, 2011 at 5:00 PM

First of all, the job of Press Secretary has really blown up far past its actual importance over the years as far as I’m concerned.

You can blame the West Wing for that. The idea that Press Secretary has anything to do with policy or attends anything except PR meetings is ludicrous.

Rocks on May 5, 2011 at 5:00 PM

It’s a tough job, trying to speak for a pathological liar.

Clinton’s various press secretaries had the same problems.

HBowmanMD on May 5, 2011 at 5:00 PM

Carney at his most unctuous when he’s trying to protect Obama comes across as a slightly healthier looking version of Michael Kinsley — i.e., a liberal who has some wit, but not as much as he thinks he does and ends up sounding snarky and caustic.

Gibbs could get away with that better because expectations were low, even among the media. He was an Obama operative and started off with a goofball manner about him, so the bar was just about sitting on the ground, or even at the Scott McClellan level (where the bar is 10 feet underground). Carney on the other hand was one of the fair-haired media elite; the ex-Time magazine boy wonder who the big media thought would be both their pal and a smooth operator.

The fact he hasn’t treated them as equals, combined with the pre-bin Laden crap sandwich of an agenda Carney’s had to spin means he’s alienating his former allies, has little good news to report and is working for an administration that would have no qualms about making Jay the latest minion to go under the bus, if a human sacrifice has to be offered up to shield Obama.

jon1979 on May 5, 2011 at 5:01 PM

I am waiting for him to snap up there, just unload on the administration he respresents, and then watch him walk out.

WashJeff on May 5, 2011 at 4:52 PM

This … I said this to the wife just the last few days.

deepdiver on May 5, 2011 at 4:58 PM

Now Funny or Die people did that skit, they may finally make something that is funny.

WashJeff on May 5, 2011 at 5:01 PM

First of all, who watches these things? We all know they are LIES, LIES, LIES.

I don’t think it’s Jay, it’s the administration he’s working for. It’s hard to go out there day after day and lie your ass off. Even Gibbsy figured this out…

davek70 on May 5, 2011 at 4:47 PM

Thread winner!!!!!!!!!

karenhasfreedom on May 5, 2011 at 5:01 PM

Is Jay Carney Floundering?

Do dogs chase cats?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzFLWYF5hQU

Roy Rogers on May 5, 2011 at 5:05 PM

Compared to what Bush’s Press secretaries had to face? This guy has completely dumbed down the office (just as his boss has).

michaelo on May 5, 2011 at 5:06 PM

I am waiting for him to snap up there, just unload on the administration he respresents, and then watch him walk out.

WashJeff on May 5, 2011 at 4:52 PM

You mean like cussing out the White House press gallery, grabbing a couple beers, and popping the escape chute???

Roy Rogers on May 5, 2011 at 5:07 PM

the new White House Press Secretary, isn’t up to the job.

Hey MSM. Your going to honestly judge Carney’s abilities as inadequate but you’re going to look behind the curtain and tells us the great and mighty O’s competence is up to the job?
A dead Osama isn’t going to burnish Obama’s pathetic performance.
The only thing that may save him are the Republicans.

chickasaw42 on May 5, 2011 at 5:07 PM

Apparently Jay isn’t as evil as his boss is. He clearly has a conscience whereas Obama and his inner circle of minions do not.

csdeven on May 5, 2011 at 5:08 PM

He’s getting the lies confused.

William Amos on May 5, 2011 at 5:08 PM

He’s making Bobby Fibbs look mediocre…rather than terrible. Carney, is stiff, prickly, insincere and ignorant. Kind of like a thinner, shorter Al Gore…

rcpjr on May 5, 2011 at 5:08 PM

Regarding the raid that got Osama, so far the White House has told us:

1) There was a firefight.

2) There was no firefight.

3) Bin Laden was “resisting.”

4) Bin Laden wasn’t armed. (Makes the concept of “resisting” interesting.)

[4.a) And the newest one: the SEALS thought bin Laden was reaching for a weapon.]

5) He used his wife as a shield.

6) His wife was killed too.

7) He didn’t use his wife as a shield. She ran at a SEAL who shot her in the leg, but she’s fine.

8 ) Some other woman — the maid? — was used as a shield. By somebody. Downstairs.

9) That other woman — downstairs — was killed.

10) Maybe not. She was killed unless she wasn’t — and who was she, anyway?

11) Bin Laden’s son was killed.

12) Unless it was some other guy.

13) Bin Laden’s daughter saw him get killed. She’s undoubtedly traumatized, poor dear.

14) They were going to capture Bin Laden until the problem with the helicopter, which was:

A) It had mechanical trouble
B) It did a hard landing
C) It crashed
D) It clipped a wall with a tail rotor, effectively a crash

15.) They were never going to try to capture him; it was always a kill mission.

16.) No, it wasn’t.

17) The chopper blew up.

18) The SEALs blew it up.

19.) Panetta said yesterday the world needed proof and the photo would be released.

20.) Obama said today in an interview he taped with Steve Kroft for “60 Minutes” to be broadcast Sunday that it won’t be released. It’s too gruesome, would offend Muslim sensibilities (something he worries about a lot — I personally do not give a warm fart on a wet Wednesday about Muslim sensibilities), and how would Americans feel if Muslims released pictures of dead Americans?

21.) Kroft — who’s not a total idiot — pointed out that ever since “Black Hawk Down” days, Muslims have been doing precisely that, filming American bodies being dragged through the streets, filming Daniel Pearl’s head being cut off, filming any and everything.

22) Obama gets pissed at CBS, the tape gets cleaned up, that question disappears. (Inside info.)

23.) We got a “treasure trove” of stuff from hard drives, etc.

24.) There were no phone lines, and no internet access at the “mansion,” they didn’t even have TV — what “treasure trove?”

25.) There is obviously in the pictures of the place a large satellite dish. I guess they used it for making salads.

26.) And now, just today: apparently the idea was to capture him, but only if he was naked. There was a suspicion he might be wearing a suicide bomber type explosive vest, or belt. So if he’s not naked and you can’t see if he has a vest on or not – shoot him.

The idiot White House Spokesman, Carney — they actually managed to find someone who makes Gibbs look good — is currently twisting himself into knots trying to explain why the photograph that the whole world was expecting isn’t going to be released. (Obviously the thing to do is get Trump on the case, he’ll force Obama to release it.)

The military did great, the administration — or whatever that bunch is, kind of like “The Little Rascals” — have managed to turn it into spaghetti. The story has changed so many times in the course of a mere three days it’s a joke — the world would be better off if Panetta had left the nitwit on the golf course.

HalJordan on May 5, 2011 at 5:10 PM

Yeah, I always picture Obama as a flounder, dwelling amongst the sea muck with eyes only on his left side.

Carney is just the underside of the flounder.

Sir Napsalot on May 5, 2011 at 5:11 PM

You mean like cussing out the White House press gallery, grabbing a couple beers, and popping the escape chute???

Roy Rogers on May 5, 2011 at 5:07 PM

I would prefer more cussing out his boss, but I like the other two actions. See…this would make a great Funny or Die skit.

WashJeff on May 5, 2011 at 5:12 PM

I miss Ron Ziegler..
/

bernzright777 on May 5, 2011 at 5:14 PM

I’m guessing that Carney wasn’t their top choice, but given the fecklessness of President Present, nobody else wanted the job.

Hollowpoint on May 5, 2011 at 5:16 PM

Yeah, I always picture Obama as a flounder, dwelling amongst the sea muck with eyes only on his left side.

Carney is just the underside of the flounder.

Sir Napsalot on May 5, 2011 at 5:11 PM

I picture Obama as lower than the colorful descriptions used by DI’s to a bus load of new arrivals at MCRD Parris Island.

Boots and chrome domes are light years above Obama.

Roy Rogers on May 5, 2011 at 5:18 PM

When the President, and his staff can’t get their stories straight, how in the heck is Carney supposed to relay that?

I feel for the guy. I think he could do the job, under a more competent boss, who knows what they’re doing.

capejasmine on May 5, 2011 at 5:18 PM

This is the same administration that picked Joe Biden for VP.

Neo on May 5, 2011 at 5:19 PM

Hard to sound confident when you don’t have answers to the questions people are asking. I don’t blame the press secretary for that.

hawksruleva on May 5, 2011 at 4:52 PM

LMAO! Definitely part of the problem….it would be tough to try to explain what bammy’s doing on a a regular basis (bammy doesn’t even seem to know from hour to hour).

In this Admin….I’m really surprised they didn’t give him a screen test. He really comes off as an easisly-flustered, milquetoast-librarian on video.

Tim_CA on May 5, 2011 at 5:19 PM

easily even

Tim_CA on May 5, 2011 at 5:20 PM

“Floundering” requires prior ability.

rogerb on May 5, 2011 at 5:20 PM

F Troop has managed to screw up one of the finest and best intelligence coups that would have put a hell of a dent in the terror network across the globe. But the overriding concept of this band of fools is how to have somebody take credit for something, namely, O Dumbo. Nobody serves the country any more, It is service to self first and service to party second ,,screw the country. They all make me sick,,,,except the military. Go Seals.

retiredeagle on May 5, 2011 at 5:20 PM

It’s hard to lie consistently and keep track of your lies. Results in “floundering”.

(See: global warming scientists)

darwin on May 5, 2011 at 5:25 PM

Floundering/Foundering…whatever. It’s called Not. Buttoned. Up.
The boss is on the golf course, no one knows the strategy (there is none), we are contradicting ourselves, and they send a child out to try and explain!

Solution: ADULTS WITH EXPERIENCE

winston on May 5, 2011 at 5:25 PM

Phht. A few weeks into Gibbs stay we were wondering how long this bozo could last. It’s the nature of the job.

slickwillie2001 on May 5, 2011 at 5:33 PM

It sounds as if Jay has nowhere near the access to Barry and his puppet masters that Gibbsy did… So he’s having to go out and spout general liberal talking points with little real guidance of what the clowns are rehearsing in the dressing room…

phreshone on May 5, 2011 at 5:36 PM

He’s honestly painful to watch.

Vera on May 5, 2011 at 4:56 PM

And then there was Dana. I think the idea there was, they would be so busy ogling her, they wouldn’t even hear what she was saying. Of course the libtard journalists don’t have the sense that God gave celery, so they were oblivious.

smellthecoffee on May 5, 2011 at 5:40 PM

Jay was only effective echoing Eleanor Clift on the McLaughlin Group.

wraithby on May 5, 2011 at 5:44 PM

Obama started with a carnie as press secretary then replaced him with a Carney. I guess next we’ll have Zambora, the amazing ape-woman.

MaxMBJ on May 5, 2011 at 4:58 PM

Last I heard, she’s busy running DHS.

CantCureStupid on May 5, 2011 at 5:47 PM

Out of his depth? He’d be out of his depth on wet pavement.

RedMindBlueState on May 5, 2011 at 5:47 PM

Isn’t pretty much everyone at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave out of their depth?

Wolftech on May 5, 2011 at 5:50 PM

Orwell lives

Obama’s not one to “spike the football” after a victory (or after killing Osama bin Laden), but it seems his campaign team (or some of his ardent supporters) doesn’t feel the same way. Check out http://www.gutsycall.com — it redirects users to Obama’s campaign website, http://www.barackobama.com. Could it be that his reelection campaign made this call? Or is it just a couple of his most steadfast supporters?

According to this domain lookup website, the website was purchased yesterday, May 4. The purchaser, though, remains anonymous.

Schadenfreude on May 5, 2011 at 5:50 PM

Roy Rogers on May 5, 2011 at 5:18 PM

My better half said Obama is more like a halibut.

/flopping on the boat, while SarahCuda plunked him off camera

Sir Napsalot on May 5, 2011 at 5:55 PM

He couldn’t stand up to John McLaughlin, so how’s he supposed to deal with any of the boneheads in the Breifing Room?

Mr. Grump on May 5, 2011 at 6:00 PM

Could mean that he’s actually a decent sort who’s engaged in an inner struggle with his innate sense of fair play and propriety while having to support his family by shoveling huge steaming heaps of it into the communication channels for such a dishonest, craven, destructive and incompetent outfit….Nah.

curved space on May 5, 2011 at 6:05 PM

Have I just not been paying attention in years past or has it just started with Carney that each questioner is getting about 4 or 5 questions each? Didn’t it used to be–1 question? And then they pushed it to 1 question plus a follow-up question? I’ve only seen Carney’s sideshow a couple of times, but I’ve been amazed to watch him allowing four or five questions apiece. He seems to not even try to control the multiple questions. I think I just answered my own question–haha.

labwriter on May 5, 2011 at 6:07 PM

Obama started with a carnie as press secretary then replaced him with a Carney. I guess next we’ll have Zambora, the amazing ape-woman.

MaxMBJ on May 5, 2011 at 4:58 PM

Too bad Andrea Dworkin died. She’d be perfect for this a$$hat.

smellthecoffee on May 5, 2011 at 6:07 PM

In Blarney’s defense, it’s hard to be the mouthpiece for a know-nothing do-nothing like Obama. What’s da stoowy, Jay?

Obama had the right idea about a year ago. Go eat a banquet with Mee Shell Ma Belle, and let Bubba Clinton answer those stupid trivial annoying questions!

Steve Z on May 5, 2011 at 6:07 PM

I’ve been amazed to watch him allowing four or five questions apiece. He seems to not even try to control the multiple questions.
 
labwriter on May 5, 2011 at 6:07 PM

 
If he gets a someone that lets him obfuscate and ramble on about a different topic without being called out on never answering the original question then he’ll let the reporter go back to the well over and over again to run out the clock.

rogerb on May 5, 2011 at 6:15 PM

Obama’s ready to replace this guy, but he can’t decide between Barnum or Bailey.

Jim Treacher on May 5, 2011 at 6:20 PM

‘The White House Press Secretary, isn’t up to the job.’

That’s okay. Neither is his boss.

GarandFan on May 5, 2011 at 6:22 PM

I hear Katie Couric is looking for a job.

Hmmmmm.

portlandon on May 5, 2011 at 6:29 PM

It’s OK. He can always go back to his job as a professional, unbiased “journalist”.

pseudoforce on May 5, 2011 at 6:33 PM

I think he is wonderfully inept. I hope he keeps his job!

DrStock on May 5, 2011 at 6:48 PM

Perhaps he is not a sufficiently smooth liar.

GaltBlvnAtty on May 5, 2011 at 6:58 PM

Note it’s a Brit paper printing these remarks.

The Obama administration’s cloak of invincibility still has enough dilithium crystals to keep it going as far as the US press is concerned.

JEM on May 5, 2011 at 7:03 PM

Unfortunately for Carney(D), shoving the narrative up our collective asses is a bit easier when hiding, with the other propagandists, behind the written word.

DANEgerus on May 5, 2011 at 7:09 PM

That’s not a job I would want. Even if that president was forthright.

I’d be worried about saying the wrong thing.

Dr. ZhivBlago on May 5, 2011 at 7:17 PM

His interview likely included:

“Look kid..can ya dance?”

obleo on May 5, 2011 at 8:00 PM

Maybe Obama could speak at Jay’s high scool graduation. That would help.

Ward Cleaver on May 5, 2011 at 8:19 PM

It’s alright, he’ll be replacing Georgy Porgy on GMA in a couple of years. Why hire journalists when you can have the previous Democrat administration’s liar-for-hire?

Freelancer on May 5, 2011 at 8:35 PM

Jay Carney? Robert Gibberish? The question is “is Obama floundering?” Did you see that picture of him in his golf jacket watching the bin Laden raid go down? He looked like a putz. It was clear from the body language that he wasn’t even close to being in charge.

mr.blacksheep on May 5, 2011 at 11:12 PM

I personally feel sorry for Carney, it show’s he possibly has a conscience and having difficulty intentionally lying to the American public for The One. Gibbsy oozed insincerity. The major problem in Washington is lack of integrity.

TulsAmerican on May 6, 2011 at 4:35 AM

I didn’t think that
They could find someone bad as
Pillsbury Dough-Boy

Haiku Guy on May 6, 2011 at 7:42 AM

This moron makes you
Long for the good ol’ days of
Pillsbury Dough-Boy.

Haiku Guy on May 6, 2011 at 7:43 AM

Is Jay Carney Floundering?

Do bears poop in the woods???

Seriously, this totally-unqualified press secretary probably is the best fit as a spokesman for a totally-unqualified president. He accurately conveys the confusion, floundering, and incompetence in this administration.

landlines on May 6, 2011 at 12:55 PM