Romney “really hoping” to be asked about Romneycare

posted at 10:00 am on May 3, 2011 by Jazz Shaw

Last week, shortly before a certain ex-terrorist (now pining for the fjords) swallowed the news cycle, there were still some folks paying attention to the nascent GOP primary race. In an early stop in New Hampshire, Mitt Romney attended a forum hosted by Americans for Prosperity and moderated by Tim Phillips.

It wouldn’t exactly take a modern day Nostradamus to know that Phillips was going to ask him about the health care plan he signed into law when he was the governor of the Bay State. The somewhat uncomfortable scene which then unfolded seemed to resemble a display of dancing which could land Mitt a spot with Tom Bergeron.

I was hoping I’d get that question!” Romney exclaimed…

Let me tell you, in my state like in most states, there are a lot of problems in health care. You’ve got people who change jobs, lose insurance and can’t get reinsured. You’ve got people who have prexisting conditions that can’t get insurance. You have something else you’re concerned about: people who don’t have insurance at all. And then you’ve got some folks who show up at a hospital with a heart attack or come from an automobile accident and they rack up huge bills — $100,000 bill, $200,000 bill, and they don’t have any insurance. And guess who they expect to pay? You, the taxpayers. In my state, we were spending hundreds of millions of dollars giving out free care to people who could’ve afforded it for themselves. So I went to work to try and solve a problem. It may not be perfect — by the way, it isn’t perfect.

Well, it’s an interesting answer. But I think what the moderator was trying to get at was something more to do with Romney’s previous statements about how the Massachusetts plan could be a model for the nation. Romney is still leading in the polls in New Hampshire, but this question – much like a tenacious Boston Terrier – simply will not go away.

But if Granite State Republicans are willing to give him a pass on it, he may still get off to a strong start next year. And he’s probably counting heavily on that.


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So, it was his baby after all. He wasn’t “compromised” into it. Good to know.

littleguy on May 3, 2011 at 10:10 AM

“Governor, given the benefit of hindsight, would you still sign the health care bill that you signed into law when you were governor of Massachusetts?” moderator Tim Phillips, president of the AFP Foundation asked.

That was the question.

How is anything he said above an answer?

catmman on May 3, 2011 at 10:13 AM

Ahh….the sweet smell of leadership. Oh, wait, never mind…that was the smell of BS.

search4truth on May 3, 2011 at 10:16 AM

“…and that’s why I still support the government forcing people to buy a product.”

Socialism always comes with a ‘good reason’.

gwelf on May 3, 2011 at 10:19 AM

What is my Biggest Failure Alex….

Chip on May 3, 2011 at 10:19 AM

Yes, I really want to hear how my paying more for healthcare with less access to it and an invasion off my privacy is good for me, again.

Blake on May 3, 2011 at 10:20 AM

In my state, we were spending hundreds of millions of dollars giving out free care to people who could’ve afforded it for themselves. So I went to work to try and solve a problem. It may not be perfect — by the way, it isn’t perfect.

So you support the individual mandate then? Just admit it, Mittens. Your campaign will essentially be over at that point, but at least I can respect you(a little) for your honesty.

Doughboy on May 3, 2011 at 10:21 AM

But if Granite State Republicans are willing to give him a pass on it, he may still get off to a strong start next year. And he’s probably counting heavily on that.

Not going to happen. The poll is horse manure btw. The best poll to reference was last November.

In related news the NH house passed legislation to remove collective bargaining rights from public sector unions.

The NH house also restructured the state government removing a great deal of waste.

dogsoldier on May 3, 2011 at 10:21 AM

Romney gets points for recognizing a problem, and being with the heat in the kitchen. Since he was not King of Massachusetts (actually, there was a Gov. King of MA…), and the legislation that was signed, and has since been altered is not all his, going into the kitchen may actually turn out to be a net-positive.

ParisParamus on May 3, 2011 at 10:23 AM

This is Mittens giving us another reason he shouldn’t be the GOP nominee.

Let me just translate what he said …

“Hey ya know, things were tough in Mass – and when the going gets tough – IT’S TIME TO TURN TO SOCIALISM BABY!!”

I’m sorry Mittens – America has a LOT of tough times ahead.

We don’t need your Socialist solutions.

HondaV65 on May 3, 2011 at 10:23 AM

“I was hoping I’d get that question!” Romney exclaimed…

Romney said something similar in Nevada during the Q&A session saying in a kinda sarcastic tone that he doesn’t get that question often enough.

It’s the same sarcastic tone The Onion did on Romney titled “Mitt Romney Haunted By Past of Trying to Help Uninsured Sick People.”

http://www.theonion.com/articles/mitt-romney-haunted-by-past-of-trying-to-help-unin,20097/

sheryl on May 3, 2011 at 10:27 AM

I’m old. It’s been a long time since I did not have a health insurance plan. Therefore I am unclear/confused about Mitt’s statement. Hopefully someone can straighten me out. When I was young and didn’t have health insurance, if I/anyone got into a car crash and went to the hospital I would get treatment, BUT afterward I would have to pay for it. I’d get the installment/monthly payment plan. But in MA, circa 1990′s people would just get it for free? NO payments? Ever? Just here’s your $100k or $200k medical care and since you have no insurance and can’t pay cash today, adios and have a nice life because your fellow Massachusettens will gladly pay for you? Is that how it was????

JimP on May 3, 2011 at 10:31 AM

and they rack up huge bills — $100,000 bill, $200,000 bill, and they don’t have any insurance. And guess who they expect to pay? You, the taxpayers. In my state, we were spending hundreds of millions of dollars giving out free care to people who could’ve afforded it for themselves. So I went to work to try and solve a problem.

So the bill Romney signed was to STOP government-financed healthcare?

Or is he just talking out of his ass?

logis on May 3, 2011 at 10:33 AM

So I guess that they will “hang” Mitt with Romneycare. if not the GOP than the DNC

unseen on May 3, 2011 at 10:34 AM

My goodness, this Republican field of contenders is quickly becoming tiresome, boring and irrelevant. If Obama can just hold out another year they’ll all be ignored or forgotten. Unfortunately, it looks like we’re going to be stuck with another 4 years of “Obamanation”, a dying economy and a hopelessly divided Republic. This is sad but nevertheless true.

rplat on May 3, 2011 at 10:36 AM

In my state, we were spending hundreds of millions of dollars giving out free care to people who could’ve afforded it for themselves. So I went to work to try and solve a problem. It may not be perfect — by the way, it isn’t perfect.

So you support the individual mandate then? Just admit it, Mittens. Your campaign will essentially be over at that point, but at least I can respect you(a little) for your honesty.

Doughboy on May 3, 2011 at 10:21 AM

Apparently he now thinks it’s okay as long as it’s the state’s boot on your neck, rather than the feds’.

The guy is a statist. He doesn’t believe in real freedom. Most Republicans in office don’t.

flyfisher on May 3, 2011 at 10:37 AM

This is Mittens giving us another reason he shouldn’t be the GOP nominee.

Let me just translate what he said …

“Hey ya know, things were tough in Mass – and when the going gets tough – IT’S TIME TO TURN TO SOCIALISM BABY!!”

I’m sorry Mittens – America has a LOT of tough times ahead.

We don’t need your Socialist solutions.

HondaV65 on May 3, 2011 at 10:23 AM

Agreed on that, but don’t they call that Progressivism now?

New improved name on an Old and failed ideology.

Chip on May 3, 2011 at 10:39 AM

Perhaps Romney can explain the hemorrhaging of the Mass state budget to support his ‘model for the nation’.

He’s had his 15 minutes.

GarandFan on May 3, 2011 at 10:40 AM

ok- for all you bitching about the state mandate- are you aware that there has been a federal mandate in place for years? Any doctor who works in an ER is MANDATED to provide FREE CARE for anyone who shows up. Romney simply made those who were taking advantage of that pay for it. SO unless you’re willing to say “Hey, uninsured, we’re gonna watch you die.” the problem will remain

drballard on May 3, 2011 at 10:40 AM

It’s better than a Mormon question.

SouthernGent on May 3, 2011 at 10:41 AM

“I was hoping I’d get that question!” Romney exclaimed… Romney said something similar in Nevada during the Q&A session saying in a kinda sarcastic tone that he doesn’t get that question often enough.
sheryl on May 3, 2011 at 10:27 AM

It’s the standard infomercial schtick: Just act really, really really confident, and the marks will believe that no one could possibly be that brash.

It works perfectly well on the soft-minded. And the more obviously outrageous your claim is, the more likely they are to believe it. If you’re just a couple of decimal points off, they can take the easy way out and assume you’re just mistaken. But as long as you’re saying something that no sane person could possibly believe in a million years, then they can’t disbelieve you without calling you a “liar.” And that would just be too gosh-darned rude.

logis on May 3, 2011 at 10:44 AM

Look, the fact is that the USA is already socialist when it comes to medical care. All you whiners up in arms ignore reality. I can get you all RIGHT NOW to pay for my healthcare and there’s nothing you can do about it. You’ve been paying indirectly ( Free ER visits) and directly (Medicaid/medicare) for your whole lives. So now Romney makes people responsable for them selves and you complain that he’s socialist.

drballard on May 3, 2011 at 10:46 AM

It is inconceivable how clueless Mitt is. I wonder if it is his advisers or he himself is just dense?

csdeven on May 3, 2011 at 10:47 AM

Perhaps Romney can explain the hemorrhaging of the Mass state budget to support his ‘model for the nation’.

Perhaps you can explain why that’s “even” true of states without Romneycare?

ParisParamus on May 3, 2011 at 10:47 AM

So now Romney makes people responsable for them selves and you complain that he’s socialist.

drballard on May 3, 2011 at 10:46 AM

How are they responsible for themselves? Half the cost of his health care law is being subsidized by the federal government, or more accurately, the other 49 states.

Doughboy on May 3, 2011 at 10:50 AM

This is why I worry for conservatism- we had the government for 6 years and did nothing to fix the socialistic problems of health care. So the libs came in and did it their way. Now we complain about the one man that actually moved health care towards market principals

drballard on May 3, 2011 at 10:52 AM

Doughboy- that money was already coming from the feds to pay for ER visits. Looking at facts is what conservatives are supposed to do.

drballard on May 3, 2011 at 10:54 AM

Now we complain about the one man that actually moved health care towards market principals

drballard on May 3, 2011 at 10:52 AM

Who?

the_nile on May 3, 2011 at 10:55 AM

In fact, all states get milk from the federal teat. I’m all for stopping that. but until that happens, work with what you got. Romney did.

drballard on May 3, 2011 at 10:58 AM

What is more socialist- people using federal law to make you pay for their care (which you do if you live outside MA) or making people pay for their care (as MA does) by the way, Romney proposed that in lieu of insurance, citizens could prove their ability to pay to avoid the mandate.

drballard on May 3, 2011 at 11:00 AM

This thread is what makes me doubt the USA has a chance- if conservatives can’t see how Romney moved medical care in MA AWAY from socialism, how can we move others towards market principles?

drballard on May 3, 2011 at 11:02 AM

drballard on May 3, 2011 at 11:00 AM

I’m unclear on this. Isn’t MA running deficits in part due to Romneycare? If so then it is still ‘socialized’ medicine then isn’t it? Please clarify for me. Thanks.

JimP on May 3, 2011 at 11:10 AM

This thread is what makes me doubt the USA has a chance- if conservatives can’t see how Romney moved medical care in MA AWAY from socialism, how can we move others towards market principles?

drballard on May 3, 2011 at 11:02 AM

So government funded health care with a mandate that you buy insurance(or pay a fine) as the centerpiece of the legislation is moving AWAY from socialism? Is that why Gov. Patrick was threatening the insurance companies with price caps last year before he finally relented? Sounds like Romney’s plan moved them about as close to socialism as it gets.

Doughboy on May 3, 2011 at 11:15 AM

In other words mitt said:

‘I’ve Abandoned Free Market Principles To Save The Free Market System’

Yeap bush 2.0 god help us.

unseen on May 3, 2011 at 11:19 AM

Now we complain about the one man that actually moved health care towards market principals

drballard on May 3, 2011 at 10:52 AM

I’m not sure you understand what “market principles” are – because RomneyCare has nothing to do with “market principles”.

Last time I checked – Mass State government was denying Insurance Companies the right to raise their rates to compensate for valid losses – and, at the same time – refusing to allow them to dump “high cost” patients.

The state government telling an insurance company what it can and can’t charge for it’s services? A state government telling an insurance company who it has to cover? In what alternate universe is that “market principles”???

HondaV65 on May 3, 2011 at 11:26 AM

What is more socialist- people using federal law to make you pay for their care (which you do if you live outside MA) or making people pay for their care (as MA does)

drballard on May 3, 2011 at 11:00 AM

If everyone is paying for their own healthcare – then why is RomneyCare bankrupting the state? Your assertion makes no sense.

HondaV65 on May 3, 2011 at 11:28 AM

Romney will never be the nominee.

RomneyCare will ALWAYS be the millstone around his neck.

Tim_CA on May 3, 2011 at 11:38 AM

Currently, 49 states have a mandate that makes all residents and the federal government pay for free healthcare for citizens who show up at the ER. Thats the law. That is not the free market. MA residents must pay their own way. Romney wrote into his original proposal to allow citizens to opt out of the mandate if they could show they did not need health insurance, and would be able to pay their own way. That was overriden by the legislature 2x.

drballard on May 3, 2011 at 12:06 PM

As for why the budget is higher that planned, the MA legislature then added all kinds of care mandates that Romney vetoed. They overrode the veto. So is the plan as Romney envisioned? No. But remember the liberal legislature originally planned for single payer. So Romney defeated that by putting in place a plan that has more personal responsabilty that was in place before he took office. Why is that so hard to understand? Because people have knee jerk responses rather than look at the facts.

drballard on May 3, 2011 at 12:10 PM

By the way, as for why MA has budget shortfall, currently almost every state in the union has shortfalls due to health care, MA’s is lower than most. That can only be fixed by removing specific mandates for treatment (ie 48 hour hospital stays mandatory after delivery- current federal law) rather than allowing market forces to control costs.

drballard on May 3, 2011 at 12:12 PM

Nothing short of an apology will save his candidacy.

Valiant on May 3, 2011 at 12:13 PM

This thread is what makes me doubt the USA has a chance- if conservatives can’t see how Romney moved medical care in MA AWAY from socialism, how can we move others towards market principles?

drballard on May 3, 2011 at 11:02 AM

LMAO!

So how long have you been a Veterinarian?

Tim_CA on May 3, 2011 at 12:36 PM

All together now let’s bang our heads against the brick wall until we knock some sense into them! How many egos does it take to make a healthcare mess? One apparently. Haven’t we learned anything with Medicare and Social Security? The only way to run any healthcare or pension program is defined payments to the system and not defined benefits from the system. The only way to do this is through the private sector with personal accounts. Does that mean that everyone will get the same coverage? Hell no but we don’t now, on anything else that’s working properly and makes a profit. One last thing, Romney DID favor the insurance mandate that he claims he didn’t. Have you ever seen the Romney family crest? It’s a f**king windsock!

inspectorudy on May 3, 2011 at 12:37 PM

Romney gets points for recognizing a problem, and being with the heat in the kitchen. Since he was not King of Massachusetts (actually, there was a Gov. King of MA…), and the legislation that was signed, and has since been altered is not all his, going into the kitchen may actually turn out to be a net-positive.

ParisParamus on May 3, 2011 at 10:23 AM

What the….?

Sorry, but blaming those rascally democrats for screwing up Willard’s masterful legislation ain’t gonna cut it.

If Romney wasn’t smart enough to envision this happening, in a far left state like Massachusetts, then he’s not smart enough to dress himself, let along be President.

Face it Romneybots, Mitt Romney is as dumb as a box of rock. [no offense to the rocks]

Seriously, the guy basically destroyed his state and absolutely destroyed his state’s health care, and yet people want to give him a pass?

That’s absurd.

We need a wise leader, someone who doesn’t make idiotic mistakes, then look to blame someone else for their stupidity. We got one of those already.

It’s time for Romney to realize it’s over, and leave the room. He will never be the Republican nominee, nor the President, EVER.

His only option is to go join the democrat party, where he belongs anyway, and try to primary Obama. I know this will make his cultists mad, but I’m serious.

Romney running for the Republican nomination, with his far left tendencies, is no different than Chump running for the GOP nomination with HIS far left tendencies. Two peas in a pod.

The only thing different between the two is Chump is an a-hole and Mitt has better hair.

gary4205 on May 3, 2011 at 12:38 PM

drballard on May 3, 2011 at 12:10 PM 12:12 PM

It’s interesting that you held back this information earlier while attacking people’s comments here. What goes on in other states is irrelevant to this discussion about Romneycare. All this gives you the appearance of a dissembler or political hack spinning information. If people are incorrectly informed then why not just inform them in the first place? Why doesn’t Mitt explain all this repeatedly? Over and over until it sticks? You may be correct/telling the truth, and I am still open to being convinced because I’ve seen too many memes over the years that turned out to be false without any ill intent on the part of those repeating it, but I’m sticking with the ‘Romneycare is socilized medicine’ meme for now. Your conduct here has made me suspicious of you.

JimP on May 3, 2011 at 12:38 PM

What is more socialist- people using federal law to make you pay for their care (which you do if you live outside MA) or making people pay for their care (as MA does)

drballard on May 3, 2011 at 11:00 AM

Another clueless Romneybot who doesn’t have the first clue how bad Willard screwed the pooch.

INCOMPETENCE: High Costs And Less Care: RomneyCare’s Unhappy Anniversary

The Massachusetts Medical Society found that 56% of physicians are not taking on new patients. Wait times for appointments are climbing. Just two years after reform took root, one clinic in Western Massachusetts had amassed a waiting list of 1,600 patients…

Of the previously uninsured individuals who have signed up, 68% are receiving free or subsidized coverage.

Many of these people aren’t even citizens of Massachusetts. A recent report from the Massachusetts Inspector General found that state agencies have failed to implement controls to prevent ineligible people from making claims. In 2010 millions of dollars were spent on medical services for individuals from 48 other states and several foreign countries.

Nothing but FAIL from Romney. Nothing but FAIL.

gary4205 on May 3, 2011 at 12:44 PM

What a pant load this guy is.

wheelgun on May 3, 2011 at 12:45 PM

So he basically said, “When I was presented at a state level with the same issues the Predisent faced on the national level, I thought the best answer was to solve it like Obama did.”

Is he really that stupid? Did he think that was a good answer?

miConsevative on May 3, 2011 at 12:45 PM

JimP on May 3, 2011 at 12:38 PM

http://www.cato.org/pubs/policy_report/v30n1/cpr30n1-1.html

Tim_CA on May 3, 2011 at 12:51 PM

I talked to a MA resident yesterday about this. Her husband is self employed and they had their own purchased policy before all of these changes. She said that at first, she didn’t notice much of a change after romneycare came into effect. Their policy did not have Rx included as they don’t have high usage in prescription medicine. She also said access to her primary care provider did not seem to be more restricted.

Then Obamacare came into affect and their policy has to add all of these mandates that they did not have before, including Rx. She said their premium costs have skyrocketed over the past 2 years and she thinks it is only going to get much worse by 2014 when obamacare comes into full force.

She said most people she knows in MA are very unhappy with the current situation.

karenhasfreedom on May 3, 2011 at 12:51 PM

Tim_CA on May 3, 2011 at 12:51 PM

Great! Thanks, Tim.

JimP on May 3, 2011 at 12:57 PM

Have you ever seen the Romney family crest? It’s a f**king windsock!

inspectorudy on May 3, 2011 at 12:37 PM

ROTFL!!

Tim_CA on May 3, 2011 at 12:58 PM

OK- I have yet to see any other current republican potential candidate say what they have specifically done to move health care towards the free market? Talk is cheap, guys. You all can complain all you want about romneybots blah blah blah. But name specifics that are politically feasable and we can have a discussion. Until then, you’re just full of hot air.

drballard on May 3, 2011 at 1:07 PM

And as for the facts, JimP, i wish more would at least have a questioning mind rather than just parrot talking points, so please look at heritage foundation- they break it down pretty good. This is a complex issue that demands more than just “Romney’s a scocialist!”. Romney has repeatedly said there are things about the current legislation he dislikes, but you wouldn’t know that from the threads here. I guess Allah just loves the traffic

drballard on May 3, 2011 at 1:11 PM

drballard on May 3, 2011 at 12:10 PM

All these people you are arguing with are die hard Palinistas. They hate Romeny because he is ahead of her in the polls.

I don’t think Romney can overcome Romneycare. And I’m not sure he should overcome it. I don’t see how we can make the case against Obamacare with Romenycare sitting there like it is.

So as a non-Romney supporter… I’m just letting you know that the people you are arguing with say nearly the same things about every single candidate.

They have one goal they want Palin to be President.

So any arguement that has a different ending from that one is going no where.

In fact the way you are defending Romney is exactly how they defend Sarah’s resignation. If people only understood all the details they wouldn’t hold it against the candidate.

But regardless of the details, the big picture is what it is for both of them.

Either of them could overcome their bad decisions and win.

petunia on May 3, 2011 at 1:20 PM

I’m just letting you know that the people you are arguing with say nearly the same things about every single candidate.

They have one goal they want Palin to be President.

petunia on May 3, 2011 at 1:20 PM

ROTFLMAO!!

Probably the dumbest thing I’ve seen today!

Oh…and thanks for speaking for everyone but you – oh enlightened one!

Too funny.

Tim_CA on May 3, 2011 at 1:26 PM

But name specifics that are politically feasable and we can have a discussion. Until then, you’re just full of hot air.

drballard on May 3, 2011 at 1:07 PM

Um….tell ya what my little Veterinarian buddy…I think the Repubs did a pretty good job outlining the conservative POV in the “Pledge to America”.

Why don’t you give that a read between flea-shampooing Shih-tzu’s.

http://www.gop.gov/pledge/healthcare

Tim_CA on May 3, 2011 at 1:35 PM

petunia on May 3, 2011 at 1:20 PM

I’m not a Palinista. I’m not an anti-Mittbot either (are there Mitt haters out there or is it that they hate his political record and how he doesn’t seem to stand for anything? I digress), but I am not inclined toward Mitt, because I have not investigated his record as I have some other candidates. So I am open to changing the impression that he is a RINO/Bush style Repub. He hasn’t done anything to change my mind. The blog post reinforces the impression he isn’t the guy I want to see nominated. Mitt is acting like a typical politician.

JimP on May 3, 2011 at 1:36 PM

Hey Tim_CA, not a vet, though I dont know why you’d consider that an insult- dont think vets got the smarts, huh? In any case, not to get all egalitarian on you, but what the hell, we do live in a meritocracy, what the hell have you done in your life that gives you the stones to dismiss someone cause they’re a vet? I got more “reasons” than you do to put on airs towards them, but I don’t, so what makes you king of crap mountain?

drballard on May 3, 2011 at 2:01 PM

Hell, i’ve met lots of moron docs, but I at least give ‘em props for accomplishing a doctorate- you done anything prop-worthy? Or you just a liberal in conservatives clothing that is envious of others accomplishments?

drballard on May 3, 2011 at 2:04 PM

And JimP, I do think you make good points about Romney’s weaknesses. I do think he could have had more conservative stands on gun issues and life issues. But I weigh achievement as well. I agree with Sharon Angle on more issues, but what is she accomplishing now? NADA. If the candidate can’t win and more their agenda forward, their ideology is irrelevant.

drballard on May 3, 2011 at 2:07 PM

JimP on May 3, 2011 at 1:36 PM

Sorry.

I’m so happy to have non-Palinistas come here! I haven’t got a candidate. In full disclosure I was a Mitt supporter last time.

So I am so disappointed in the Romneycare thing… but I can’t bring myself to ignore it.

If we do end up ignoring it and he is the nominee I think we only have half an arguement left against Obamacare.

Other than that, I have yet to see the perfect candidate. So I am very forgiving of typical candidate behavior.

One thing is absolutely clear. I will be voting for someone who is not ideal. But idealism is for kids anyway.

I just want to get the socialists out of our government and send a message to the non-socialist Democrats that they need to purge their party of the socialists, and get back to the checks and balances the two parties are suposed to provide.

petunia on May 3, 2011 at 2:39 PM

Too funny.

Tim_CA on May 3, 2011 at 1:26 PM

Isn’t it? Until you actually want a real discussion.

petunia on May 3, 2011 at 2:42 PM

Tim? yoo-hoo? Anyone with a rebuttal, or just more class envy?

drballard on May 3, 2011 at 2:44 PM

http://www.theonion.com/articles/mitt-romney-haunted-by-past-of-trying-to-help-unin,20097/

sheryl on May 3, 2011 at 10:27 AM

Okay, that is pretty funny. I’m sure on the left this is what it looks like…

Though Romney has apologized profusely, Beltway insiders said he would need to distance himself from his I-tried-to-help-sickpeople image. Sources noted that Romney’s current promise to take away health care from anyone who can’t afford it is a step in the right direction, but might not be enough.

“The major strike against Mitt Romney is that he not only tried to help people get medical care, he actually did help people get medical care,” conservative columnist Jonah Goldberg said. “No other Republican in the field has that type of baggage. And in the end, in order to defeat President Obama, the GOP needs someone who has a track record of never wanting to help sick people.”

But Obamacare is the worst legislation ever… we need simple market based solutions!

At least we could try to get insurance across statelines… istead of leting the States choose insurance we could let people themselves decide what is good for them!

But no, that would be too simple.

petunia on May 3, 2011 at 2:49 PM

drballard on May 3, 2011 at 2:01 PM

(yawn
)
Deflect much sweetheart?

Tim_CA on May 3, 2011 at 4:05 PM

Tim? yoo-hoo? Anyone with a rebuttal, or just more class envy?

drballard on May 3, 2011 at 2:44 PM

Oh no sweetie…just a lunch meeting….class envy? LMAO!!

Sorry no….you’re just too ignorant of the subject to be a real MD.

Tim_CA on May 3, 2011 at 4:08 PM

Too funny.

Tim_CA on May 3, 2011 at 1:26 PM
Isn’t it? Until you actually want a real discussion.

petunia on May 3, 2011 at 2:42 PM

??

Tim_CA on May 3, 2011 at 4:09 PM

Oh really- how so? Again, I believe the brush I was painting you with was class envy, but lets go to town on ignorance too. Please let me know where I’m off on the facts. Again, I disagree with Romney on alot of things, but he has accomplishments few can match. Again, luv to hear where I am wrong on the facts

drballard on May 3, 2011 at 4:37 PM

Tim? yoo-hoo? Anyone with a rebuttal, or just more class envy?

drballard on May 3, 2011 at 2:44 PM
Oh no sweetie…just a lunch meeting….class envy? LMAO!!

Sorry no….you’re just too ignorant of the subject to be a real MD.

Tim_CA on May 3, 2011 at 4:08 PM

Hello…Dr Pretend??
I’m ready for you to explain to me how the socialist, money-pit of a disaster that RomneyCare(TM) has become, makes Mitten’s the more “conservative” Candidate.

Please also explain why…that in 2006, 85 percent of the insured in Massachusetts got their coverage through private group coverage at work. Today that’s down to 79 percent (source: Patrick Admin).

Meanwhile the percentage on the MassHealth dole has doubled, and more than 150,000 people are now subsidized through Commonwealth Care

Costs are up / premiums are up / choices are leaving the market…remind us all how that supports your pretend “conservative” meme.

You’re long on BS sweetie…but waaaaay short on facts.

Yoo-Hoo indeed.

jack-@ss

Tim_CA on May 3, 2011 at 4:42 PM

See, I think alot of people hate Romney cause they really are liberals raised as conservatives- they don’t get that what made America great was it’s meritocracy, built on a foundation of Judeo-Christian values, ( though not religion). Romney does fit that bill. I still hear folks say “If only we had a great business man to run!” . Well, here he is. What is hysterical of course is the anti romney articles most link to are from far left sources. Careful who you sleep with…

drballard on May 3, 2011 at 4:43 PM

So, Tim, in addition to calling me a liar with no facts at all, you’re quoting from Gov Patrick, an ultra left loon. Wow, that’s awesome. Why don’t you look at the Heritage studies on Romneycare instead of the liberals? And you have yet to respond as to why you seem to dismiss those who are more accomplished than you.

drballard on May 3, 2011 at 4:46 PM

See, I think alot of people hate Romney cause they really are liberals raised as conservatives- they don’t get that what made America great was it’s meritocracy, built on a foundation of Judeo-Christian values, ( though not religion). Romney does fit that bill. I still hear folks say “If only we had a great business man to run!” . Well, here he is. What is hysterical of course is the anti romney articles most link to are from far left sources. Careful who you sleep with…

drballard on May 3, 2011 at 4:43 PM

I knew you were a phony….from the second you started posting jerkw@d.

Just another Lib-troll looking to entertain himself.

Go play outside for awhile little one….you need some fresh air.

Tim_CA on May 3, 2011 at 4:47 PM

Ad hominem attacks are a sign of a small mind, Tim. And I’m pretty sure you’re fresh out of ideas and facts. Have I called you a liar? Have I called you any names? I wonder what actual conservative morals you actually have. See, that’s what liberals do- disagree and you’re a racist!. You just call me a liar and jerkwad. If you walk like a duck, quack like a duck….

drballard on May 3, 2011 at 4:56 PM

But then again, Tim, I think you act out of envy, rather than thoughtful consideration.

drballard on May 3, 2011 at 4:57 PM

Aww, did that strike too close to home, little Timmy? It’s ok, maybe the party will be dumb enough to nominate Huckabee or trump, then we’ll all be as poor and ignorant as you….

drballard on May 3, 2011 at 5:01 PM

drballard on May 3, 2011 at 4:56 PM

Hey Blink! How many throw away names do you post under? Caught ya again didn’t I “Doc”

ROTFLMAO!!

Read all the facts above Blink….I’ve spelled it all out for ya with links and sources….you however, are just trying to stir the pot as usual.

You were obviously a phony, it just took awhile to figure out who you are!

Tim_CA on May 3, 2011 at 5:02 PM

Aww, did that strike too close to home, little Timmy? It’s ok, maybe the party will be dumb enough to nominate Huckabee or trump, then we’ll all be as poor and ignorant as you….

drballard on May 3, 2011 at 5:01 PM

By all means…keep talking blink….this is a fantastic coming out party for ya (sorta negating all of your earlier pretend posts though).

Another name you’ll have to throw away!!

Tim_CA on May 3, 2011 at 5:10 PM

See, Timmy, if you check, I’ve been posting for quite a while. Seeing as you have little connection to reality, I dont know who the hell “Blink” is. One of the voices in your head, perhaps?

drballard on May 3, 2011 at 6:12 PM

Again, any chance we’ll get some facts, or just juvenile insults?

drballard on May 3, 2011 at 6:12 PM

Sighh…. mom must have called dinnertime for you, huh? How much you contributing to the economy from mom’s basement?

drballard on May 3, 2011 at 6:14 PM

See, Timmy, if you check, I’ve been posting for quite a while. Seeing as you have little connection to reality, I dont know who the hell “Blink” is. One of the voices in your head, perhaps?

drballard on May 3, 2011 at 6:12 PM

LMAO!!

IP’s don’t lie blink….thanks for playing…game over.

Tim_CA on May 3, 2011 at 6:16 PM

IP? what the hell are you talking about? Get help. I thought you were just ignorant, but add cowardice to that too. Really, get help.

drballard on May 3, 2011 at 6:20 PM

I’m off to the real world. Tim, you’re one of the signs of the Apocolypse.

drballard on May 3, 2011 at 6:22 PM

Really, get help.

drballard on May 3, 2011 at 6:20 PM

Will do…..my friend!!!

wonder how many other names you post under??

In any case blink…already responded to you:

Tim_CA on May 3, 2011 at 4:42 PM

and here:

Tim_CA on May 3, 2011 at 1:35 PM

and here:

http://www.cato.org/pubs/policy_report/v30n1/cpr30n1-1.html

still waiting for a rational response from my favorite Lib who poses as a moderate repub.

Seriously…I’ll eventually find out…how many names total….?

Tim_CA on May 3, 2011 at 6:32 PM