Pervez Musharraf Upset About US Violation of Pakistan’s Sovereignty
posted at 2:00 pm on May 2, 2011 by John Sexton
Are you kidding me?!
American troops coming across the border and taking action in one of our towns, that is Abbottabad, is not acceptable to the people of Pakistan. It is a violation of our sovereignty. It would have been far better if Pakistani special services group had operated and conducted the mission. So to that extent the modality of handling it and executing the operation is not correct.
Musharraf is all over the airwaves today offering opinions about the death of Osama bin Laden. As you can see, he does say he’s glad OBL is dead but then he immediately goes on to complain about the US violating Pakistani sovereignty. He may be technically right, but is this the time or place to raise that complaint?
In fact, given that we just found the world’s #1 terrorist hiding in a resort town in your country, how about some sign of personal or professional shame before you start complaining about the “modality” of the operation. Is that too much to ask?
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It’s easier to get forgiveness than permission.
Pakistan, please forgive us or we’ll move you to the bottom of the foreign aid pile.
John Deaux on May 2, 2011 at 2:02 PM
So glad Obama did not defer to these incompetent boobs.
And he knows an incompetent boob when he sees one, that’s for sure!
Badger40 on May 2, 2011 at 2:03 PM
Tough sh!t. We will go after the terrorists wherever they are, and if you are knowingly harboring them, we will violate your sovereignty.
rbj on May 2, 2011 at 2:03 PM
Of course he is. When I heard his this morning my first thought was Thank you W and Condi for forcing Musharraf out of Pakistan. The road to a dead OBL began there.
Texas Gal on May 2, 2011 at 2:03 PM
Pakistan, you upset? Okay, now move along…
right2bright on May 2, 2011 at 2:04 PM
I doubt he cares, he’s making a show of it.
Dash on May 2, 2011 at 2:04 PM
No remorse for harboring this guy or failing to find him yourself, just damn America for crossing the border to do the job. The real regret is not being given enough notice to tip off Osama
DAT60A3 on May 2, 2011 at 2:04 PM
Since Bin Laden’s compound was within 1000′ of a Pakistan Military Academy, we didn’t feel any reason to bore you with the details, but thanks for your help though.
volsense on May 2, 2011 at 2:04 PM
You’re welcome, filth.
Pakistani generals were Osama’s neighbors and kept him hidden, living large on U.S. billions. Keep paying for their existence and perish, fools.
Schadenfreude on May 2, 2011 at 2:04 PM
Frog. Scorpion.
You know the story.
Rebar on May 2, 2011 at 2:05 PM
Yeah, awesome idea *rolls eyes*
ThePrez on May 2, 2011 at 2:05 PM
Maybe we’ll let you know when we go after Mullah Omar and Zawahiri. They’re probably camping out in your backyard Musharaff.
danking70 on May 2, 2011 at 2:05 PM
Is he running for office again or do we feel another coup coming on?
Cindy Munford on May 2, 2011 at 2:07 PM
Suck it up Musharaff. Suck it up and STFU!
GarandFan on May 2, 2011 at 2:07 PM
I hope the fact that the Pakistani gov’t, intelligence, or military must have known his location doesn’t get buried. They need to be held to account and we should use India as leverage.
Bill C on May 2, 2011 at 2:07 PM
Hey Pervez!
You are welcome your sovereignty is the only thing violated.
Stop harshing my mellow before I have second thoughts.
Roy Rogers on May 2, 2011 at 2:07 PM
Hey John Sexton, it isn’t “your welcome”….it’s you’re welcome. :-)
csdeven on May 2, 2011 at 2:08 PM
You’re
Not
Your
angryed on May 2, 2011 at 2:08 PM
Rage Boy hasn’t been seen.
Humpbot missing as well.
Musharaff is the former president of Pakistan; what has the current government said?
65droptop on May 2, 2011 at 2:09 PM
John Deaux: Pakistan, please forgive us or we’ll move you to the bottom of the foreign aid pile.
Let’s do it anyway. Of course they knew where bin Laden was. If we’d told them of the mission beforehand, bin Laden would have been long gone from that compound before our guys got there.
As it is, Pakistan is now suffering a well-deserved embarrassment. And a new, speculative eye from Washington.
RebeccaH on May 2, 2011 at 2:09 PM
Does the SOF who tapped OBL in the forehead get the reward? Rhetorical, we all know the answer.
Sidebar… the home page subtitle for this article should read “You’re” Welcome. Pet peeve.
CVMA-Dredd on May 2, 2011 at 2:09 PM
It would be nice if I could believe that Musharraf is okay with the raid, but is only complaining to keep up appearances. I just can’t suspend reality long enough to believe it though.
csdeven on May 2, 2011 at 2:10 PM
Im sure he is glad it was done, now he can ask us to ramp down military actions in paki. This is just a version of CYA.
Greed on May 2, 2011 at 2:10 PM
Well hey, Musharraf, I am deeply sorry that your boys missed out on this mission. However, last I heard, Mullah Omar and Al-Zawahiri are still at large — possibly in Pakistan. If by chance they are not within your nation’s sovereign borders, I am certain there are other very important Taliban and Al Qaeda targets available for your forces. Your move.
jwolf on May 2, 2011 at 2:11 PM
Upset that he couldn’t tip him off probably. Cry me a frickin’ river.
Kataklysmic on May 2, 2011 at 2:11 PM
Give us the price per pound for each person killed in the raid, already, Pervez. Cash or cheque?
Christien on May 2, 2011 at 2:11 PM
It’s clear he never was an ally to the U.S., so screw him.
On the other hand, it’s kinda funny him using one of Obama’s campaign points and promises against Obama.
capejasmine on May 2, 2011 at 2:12 PM
Abbottabad? Is that near Costelloabad?
Kafir on May 2, 2011 at 2:13 PM
We did Pakistan a huge favor.
If we had gotten them involved and Osama got away, there would be no US mercy on them. Relations are already tense, and any sense of complicity between them and bin Laden could have led to all out war. Being a nuclear country, war would have to be hard, brutal, and total. We wouldn’t use the bomb, but we would have to make sure that they couldn’t.
Musharraf is out doing what’s necessary to maintain his political power. This is just a campaign speech, and holds the same credibility.
dcman98 on May 2, 2011 at 2:13 PM
On the front page, you say “Your welcome”. I think you meant to say “You’re welcome.” It really does make a difference.
-Language Martinet
The Monster on May 2, 2011 at 2:13 PM
He knows where he can shove his head…
nickj116 on May 2, 2011 at 2:14 PM
Yes, technically it is.
What would you like to do about it? Ball’s in your court…
cs89 on May 2, 2011 at 2:14 PM
Paki bastids knew all along where he lived, lavishly. May they all rot, alive.
Schadenfreude on May 2, 2011 at 2:15 PM
No, that’s the shortstop.
Vashta.Nerada on May 2, 2011 at 2:15 PM
Can we get Rudy to deliver a giant check for whatever the Saudi dude offered us?
Christien on May 2, 2011 at 2:15 PM
crr6, sesqui and Dave Rywall will be by to defend you.
Schadenfreude on May 2, 2011 at 2:16 PM
This is not the reaction of a leader of a country who is concerned about the obvious corruption in his military and intelligence agencies that allowed an international terrorist leader and mass-murder to live in comfort right under his nose. It is instead the bluster of someone who knew what was going on and is trying to deflect suspicion and investigations into how it could have happened.
Socratease on May 2, 2011 at 2:18 PM
He might need to say it just to survive and not be scapegoated when the muslim rage over Osama starts.
the_nile on May 2, 2011 at 2:18 PM
Mush, quit yer whinin’. An’ start explainin’.
WannabeAnglican on May 2, 2011 at 2:18 PM
Translation:
“Boy am I glad we didn’t have our weekly poker game at Osama’s house this week.”
portlandon on May 2, 2011 at 2:21 PM
Right. In an ISI safe house, a mile or less away from their military academy?
Musharef is bitching because he had OBL on speed dial and can’t remember how to reprogram the phone.
HBowmanMD on May 2, 2011 at 2:21 PM
So it’s really like if you find a stack of girlie magazines and some empty beer bottles in your son’s room, and he complains that you shouldn’t have been there in the first place.
Good luck with that.
DrAllecon on May 2, 2011 at 2:23 PM
If Obama tells Pokeestahn to shove it, I might have to admit grudging respect for a second time.
bitsy on May 2, 2011 at 2:23 PM
Meanwhile, the coolest quote: “He was taken out by a double tap to the head”
right2bright on May 2, 2011 at 2:23 PM
Two words for this jackhole: F and U.
fleiter on May 2, 2011 at 2:24 PM
No, it is in crr6′s court!!
Khun Joe on May 2, 2011 at 2:24 PM
Musharraf is criticizing the ISI in this quote, as much as the US. His comments focus on the lack of trust, specifically with reference to his view that al Qaeda is a “common enemy”. Sure you could argue he’s complaining solely about the invasion of Pakistani sovereignty but he’s specifically not doing that. Instead his much broader criticism can really only apply to the ISI.
It’s an unbelievable mission- we sent helicopters hundreds of miles over heavily defended airspace (undoubtedly at very low level, ground-hugging bone shattering flight) right into a military town, essentially a Pak army base, shot up a house in the middle of town, and got away clean. This was one helluva mission.
MTF on May 2, 2011 at 2:25 PM
To those harping the “Your” “You’re” differences….perhaps “Your welcome” has to do with reception (ie. welcoming committee) rather than a sarcastic response to their failure to say “thank you.” Try reading it, “Your [lack of] welcome.”
Don’t assign too narrow of a meaning to the words.
swellhotair on May 2, 2011 at 2:25 PM
Uh, oh. Extra order of knee pads on their way. Obama has a tight schedule between golf games and photo ops, so keep your sessions short.
andy85719 on May 2, 2011 at 2:26 PM
OT: is anyone seeing this news conference…the lsm is SO WORRIED about making sure he had a bloody proper burial….
*shaking the head*
unfreakinbelievable.
cmsinaz on May 2, 2011 at 2:28 PM
Not sesqui, today she has a newfound respect for violating sovereignty, killing innocents, secret military incursions, Gitmo, the CIA; you name it and she’s for it.
As long as it has PBHO’s signature on the dotted line. Back when Dubya was POTUS…ehhhh not so much.
Bishop on May 2, 2011 at 2:28 PM
The clown must dance this jig.
The Pakistanis have played their duplicitous game about as far as it can be stretched. Some hard truths about Pakistan are being incontrovertibly revealed, and reality is about to smack them in the face harder than Moe Howard.
Everyone is going to understand that they were protecting the world’s most wanted terrorist. Everyone is going to understand what that means for the rest of Pakistan’s agenda and Pakistan’s credibility.
If these scum weren’t sitting on a pile of nukes…
novaculus on May 2, 2011 at 2:29 PM
Musharraf can just STFU.
BryanS on May 2, 2011 at 2:29 PM
Me thinks doth protest too much..
Like Obama, some people really do need to learn that at times it is best: TSFU as Yoda would say.
Chip on May 2, 2011 at 2:30 PM
Yup. As far as I can tell, that’s what being at war is all about.
We are at war with Al Qaida, no matter where they are found.
Don’t like it, clean your effing house before we get there.
Badger40 on May 2, 2011 at 2:32 PM
He’s pissed because the checks are going to stop, now that he’s lost his sugar daddy! “I’m shocked, SHOCKED to find Mr. Bin Laden in Pakistan!”
farleyman on May 2, 2011 at 2:32 PM
Liberals are illogical and obtuse. Also, they are eunuchs. Let them.
Schadenfreude on May 2, 2011 at 2:33 PM
We need to favor India over Pakistan, and cut Pakistan off from aid.
We have to do a lot of things that won’t be done by this administration.
disa on May 2, 2011 at 2:33 PM
All the money we’ve been giving to Pakistan should go to Israel and India. And maybe drop a few hellfires on the ISI headquarters for good measure.
Didn’t Tough Talk Barry say we’d have to invade Pakistan when he was on the campaign trail?
Iblis on May 2, 2011 at 2:34 PM
While Muffy is saving face – his words could be deadly to our existing troops in the Afghan/Paki theater.
Remember folks – OBL began his bloodthirst due to the Saudi’s allowing US military bases there and the presence of “infidels” in other Islamic nations.
This clown just stoked a tinder box – and he well knows it by specifically stating “Pakistans sovereignty has been violated by Americans”…
Odie1941 on May 2, 2011 at 2:34 PM
Heaven forbid we should do anything to upset the Islamic extremists. /
F___ them. They attacked us on 9/11 and said it was justified. They are going to keep trying to kill us no matter what we do.
We should have buried him in a grave underneath a big pile of pig guts.
UltimateBob on May 2, 2011 at 2:34 PM
Try sticking to the English language as it was intended to be used, and spelled.
disa on May 2, 2011 at 2:34 PM
I need to get a larger flag for my front gate and a sign that reads, Congratulations Seals.
SC.Charlie on May 2, 2011 at 2:35 PM
Hey Pervez, maybe if you weren’t giving terrorists blow jobs for cash, we might take you seriously.
Then again, we still wouldn’t.
ElectricPhase on May 2, 2011 at 2:36 PM
F*ck Musharraf and the horse he rode in on….
If the Pakis don’t like it, they can join the Afghans in the Stone Age.
CatoRenasci on May 2, 2011 at 2:36 PM
Meme’d it for you.
oddjob1138 on May 2, 2011 at 2:36 PM
Doesn’t Obama have some Pakistan Passport or visa to flash? Just ’cause Obama isn’t Muslim Muslim, he is close and should be treated as a friend.
seven on May 2, 2011 at 2:36 PM
It’s a stand he has to take, he’s scared of al-quida also.
Tommy_G on May 2, 2011 at 2:36 PM
Hey Musharraf, sovereignty schmoveignty.
You do realize Obowma won a Nobel prize? He can do anything he wants, according to our media….excluding bowling of course.
dthorny on May 2, 2011 at 2:37 PM
That we were able to put down 40 men a mile from their version of west point, fight 40 minutes, burn a helicopter, get out before response, tells you how good an idea it would have been to involve them.
NextGen on May 2, 2011 at 2:37 PM
Damned right it was. The details we know already are incredible and tantalizing, to say the least.
novaculus on May 2, 2011 at 2:38 PM
Hey Pervez, up yours pal. And by the way you’re welcome fool.
FireBlogger on May 2, 2011 at 2:38 PM
This is the Pakistani government play acting, nothing more. They don’t want their goverment stormed by radical Islamists in protest.
There is no way in hell that U.S. choppers took off from Afghanistan, flew 150 miles over Pakistani territory, engaged in a 40 minute firefight, and then reboarded and flew 150 miles out of Pakistan untouched unless the Pakistani military had orders to let them pass.
In short, the Pakistani government knew about it, but it is not safe for them to admit it.
AngusMc on May 2, 2011 at 2:39 PM
In fairness, Bush didn’t either.
sharrukin on May 2, 2011 at 2:39 PM
after dragging him through the streets
cmsinaz on May 2, 2011 at 2:39 PM
Is that a facepalm that Mushy is doing in the photo?
Where’s the guy who did the ASCII art of Jean Luc Picard facepalming? He needs to get to work on this. :-)
UltimateBob on May 2, 2011 at 2:40 PM
You don’t know much about third world air forces do you?
sharrukin on May 2, 2011 at 2:41 PM
Looks like Musharrafs’ Defined Benefit Retirement Plan administrator took the money and ran. Into a bullet.
BobMbx on May 2, 2011 at 2:42 PM
I’m not thinking much about their air force as much as their anti-aircraft capabilities right next to that compound.
That area is right next to some heavily restricted airspace covering the country’s military academy. You’d think they would have enough stuff in the neighborhood to take out two transport choppers.
teke184 on May 2, 2011 at 2:43 PM
NEVER forget!
Schadenfreude on May 2, 2011 at 2:43 PM
Isn’t this exactly what Obambi swore he’d do during the debates. Of course, we knew he was blustering and trying to build up some WOT cred. But sure enough, when BHO’s back against the wall, what with low polls, Trump sniffing around his sealed records, something had to give and that was his ‘principles’. Bwhahaha.
AH_C on May 2, 2011 at 2:44 PM
dthorny on May 2, 2011 at 2:45 PM
..right next to “whose on first-o-bad.”
The War Planner on May 2, 2011 at 2:45 PM
Do we know where Musharraf is? I’d bet he knew about Osama’s whereabouts all along. Let’s get him!
FloatingRock on May 2, 2011 at 2:46 PM
I agree with sharrukin about the Pakis third world level air defenses.
Besides, if anyone in the Pakistani military, ISI or government had known in advance, the security of the whole operation would have been compromised. An hour’s notice and Big Bird would have been tipped off and flown the coop.
novaculus on May 2, 2011 at 2:47 PM
The major supply route for our troops in Afghanistan is through Pakistan. That’s why they’re getting ‘aid’.
ProfessorMiao on May 2, 2011 at 2:47 PM
And the very definition of hypocrites!!!
capejasmine on May 2, 2011 at 2:48 PM
If it was inside the country and not on alert status, I doubt anyone was manning those weapon installation that did exist in the area.
sharrukin on May 2, 2011 at 2:49 PM
Damn, Osama was only 1 1/2 years away from collecting on his Obowmacare kidney coverage.
dthorny on May 2, 2011 at 2:49 PM
Sittin’ on a pile of nukes, too.
novaculus on May 2, 2011 at 2:50 PM
The White House needs to borrow Gilly from SNL to tell Musharraf and Pakistan: “Sorry”
Bob L on May 2, 2011 at 2:50 PM
Go boil your head, Pervez. You’re lucky that entire area isn’t a smoldering crater. There’s NO WAY you bastards didn’t know he was there.
CantCureStupid on May 2, 2011 at 2:51 PM
Don’t forget to praise Obama. Best leader ever. Savior. Mastermind. Oh, and also, do condemn any conservative. Evil. Short-sighted. It is the ticket to success in 12.
andy85719 on May 2, 2011 at 2:53 PM
In order for soldiers in most third world countries to use any heavy weapons, they need authority from the top. Furthermore, while much has been made of the helicopters used, don’t forget the Twitter report and common sense suggests there were US fixed-wing aircraft on the scene shortly after the shooting began. If AA radar had popped up, it would have had a short exciting life, I think.
The gunners were not fools.
doufree on May 2, 2011 at 2:53 PM
That third-world air force is flying F-16s and using latest-generation radar systems built in the U.S.
AngusMc on May 2, 2011 at 2:55 PM
Exactly. The gunners probably weren’t there and if they had been they would need a clearance order to fire on American helicopters which is not something any sane Pakistani officer would be willing to give on his own authority.
sharrukin on May 2, 2011 at 2:56 PM
This ‘outrage’ is probably all part of a well planned and rehearsed script by all concerned. Or at least that’s what one would expect…
drfredc on May 2, 2011 at 2:57 PM
That’s as true as it is irrelevant.
Weapons don’t win wars, men do.
The Arabs fighting Israel in their various wars, had rather advanced weapons as well but it didn’t change a thing.
sharrukin on May 2, 2011 at 2:58 PM
I’m still doing the math on two helicopters, one goes down, and 40 guys + captives/bodies get out? How big are these things?
Also, there’s no way in heck they flew two jolly green giants (I assume) into there without air cover of some sort.
WitchDoctor on May 2, 2011 at 3:01 PM
Not latest generation radar systems. But as mentioned by others, Arab warriors are 5th rate when it comes to war strat and capabilities. They do it for ‘prestige’ not out of a desire to be the best.
AH_C on May 2, 2011 at 3:01 PM
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