BREAKING: BIN LADEN DEAD; Update: Killed “deep inside Pakistan” today in a firefight; Update: Found in Abbottabad; Update: Linked to Umar Patek? Update: Details of assault; Update: Early intel came from Gitmo detainees

posted at 9:59 pm on May 1, 2011 by Allahpundit

From Patrick Ishmael:

Topic as yet unknown. Putting this up as a placeholder until the regular crew arrives. If you run across anything, flag it in the comments, and I’ll update this when appropriate. Stay tuned.

Update: The AP has a brief story up. Nothing that we don’t already know (or I guess, not know,) but that page may update as new information emerges. Worth keeping an eye on.

WASHINGTON (AP) — The White House says President Barack Obama is making a late-night statement but is not announcing the topic that he will discuss.

Officials say the statement could come as early as 10:30 p.m. EDT.

It is highly unusual that the president would make a late-night statement with not even a hint about what he would discuss.

At this writing, we’re about 10 minutes from speech time, and still no firm ideas as to the subject. Sam Stein tweets:

white house is mum on topic. and rightfully so, only 15 min wait. but one official says its “Important enough that you shld pay attention”

Update: Narrowing down the topics.

Breaking – We are told it is a national security related announcement by the President

Update: This may be historic news, or it may not. Rumors swinging around wildly on Twitter. We’ll wait for the speech. If you have news, shoot it to me here or send it to the comments.

Update: BIN LADEN.

From Allahpundit:

Update (AP): Fox News says he was killed in a missile strike last week and that they’ve been waiting on an announcement until they had DNA confirmation from the remains that it was him. If there was ever a question of discontinuing drone attacks in Pakistan, there won’t be after this.

In related news, Osama Bin Laden was alive as of last week?

Update (AP): One of the reasons I assumed he’d died years ago was that, if he was alive, surely he’d be taunting the U.S. with video messages. As it is, how many new videos of him have there been since 9/11? Two? He dropped almost completely off the grid and stayed there — for nine and a half years. Why? Just too gutless to show his face on camera lest we glean something from the video about his whereabouts?

Update (AP): I’m mighty, mighty curious to find out how much of a role Pakistan played in this too. Remember this story from just three weeks ago about how they wanted the U.S. to wind down the drone strikes and start removing CIA personnel? Maybe dropping a dime on Bin Laden’s location is their way of sweetening the pot. Now that we have our prize kill, the public might accept relaxing the pace of drone strikes.

Update (AP): The Times reported on a major drone strike in North Waziristan on April 22 that killed 23 people. Presumably that’s the one that got Bin Laden. Who else was with him in a crowd that big?

A choice quote:

The drone strike on Friday came after Admiral Mullen delivered an unusually harsh message during his visit here, saying publicly that Pakistan’s spy agency, Inter-Services Intelligence, directly supported and abetted the Haqqani network of militants in North Waziristan. The network’s militants are responsible for many of the American casualties in Afghanistan, American commanders say.

Update (AP): Hold the phone — I’m seeing conflicting reports of where he was killed and neither involve Waziristan. A banner on CNN.com says it was inside Afghanistan. And a tweet from Breaking News says, almost unbelievably, that it happened outside Islamabad, a.k.a. the capital of Pakistan. If the latter is true, there are going to be a lot of uncomfortable questions being asked come morning.

Update (AP): U.S. relations with Pakistan will never be the same if this is true:

Osama bin Laden was killed by U.S. forces in a mansion outside the Pakistani capital of Islamabad along with other family members, senior U.S. official tells CNN.

Does this mean he wasn’t killed in a missile strike but in some sort of special forces op? Why didn’t the Pakistani media notice?

Update (AP): Maybe it wasn’t a drone strike after all:

CBS: Osama was “shot in the head.”

Update (AP): Good point from Dave Weigel: Now that we’ve gotten the scalp we wanted the most, the public will probably be even more inclined to support withdrawal from Afghanistan. Which, of course, is what Pakistan’s been after for years. Again, I’m very curious to know just what role their intel services played. Especially if the almost unbelievable detail about where this happened is true.

Update (AP): CBS is saying that he was killed in Afghanistan. Stay tuned; Obama will speak shortly. It’s nice to think of him being gunned down by U.S. troops, though, rather than blown to bits by a missile. It’s sweet to think that some of our guys got to see the look on his face when they came through the door.

Update (AP): Reuters says it was indeed U.S. special forces that did the honors. Awesome.

Update (AP): Obama’s speaking now. They’ve been developing a hot lead on Bin Laden for months; they tracked him to a compound in a town “deep inside Pakistan” and it all went down today, not last week as initially reported. There was a firefight and — amazingly — no American troops were harmed. O’s trumpeting Pakistan’s cooperation as I write this, but that’s thin gruel given the questions that are coming about who knew what in the Pakistani government about OBL moving around “deep inside” the country.

Update (AP): The city where they got him is named Abbottabad. It’s not in the tribal areas; it’s in the northeastern part of the country, just 75 or so miles from the seat of government in Islamabad. A telling aside from O’s speech: He said that he called Pakistan’s president after the incident to let him know — which, presumably, means there wasn’t Pakistani cooperation after all. As I said earlier, relations between us will never be the same.

All credit to Obama, though, for pulling the trigger and sending troops in to take care of business. If OBL hadn’t been there or if things had gone wrong, this would have been an international clusterfark, especially given how deep they were inside the country. Well done.

Update (AP): Dubya speaks:

Earlier this evening, President Obama called to inform me that American forces killed Osama bin Laden, the leader of the al Qaeda network that attacked America on September 11, 2001. I congratulated him and the men and women of our military and intelligence communities who devoted their lives to this mission. They have our everlasting gratitude. This momentous achievement marks a victory for America, for people who seek peace around the world, and for all those who lost loved ones on September 11, 2001. The fight against terror goes on, but tonight America has sent an unmistakable message: No matter how long it takes, justice will be done.

Update (AP): Via Mediaite, Obama officially shares the good news:

Update (AP): A fascinating detail from blogger Anil Dash: Abbottabad is actually a tourist town in Pakistan. So much so that its Wikipedia entry has an entire section about it. It’s basically the opposite of a cave in the tribal areas. Presumably Bin Laden figured the U.S. would never look for him in a town like that. Marc Ambinder’s administration sources say they think Bin Laden was holed up in the compound for six months at least. Can’t wait to find out if that’s true, or if he was actually out and about at times mixing with the tourists.

Now, a question: Is this just a coincidence or something more?

Update (AP): A senior administration official confirms that Pakistani leaders weren’t briefed until after the attack. For all of O’s lip service tonight about how much we value our partnership with Islamabad, that speaks volumes.

Update (AP): A great question from Sultan al-Qassemi:

I wonder if Arab & world leaders will send Obama cables congratulating the US on killing OBL…

Update (AP): Nicholas Jackson of the Atlantic says the location of the compound has already been marked — by someone — on Google Maps. Follow the link and have a look. Assuming it’s correct, the compound is less than a thousand feet away from a (rundown) Pakistani police station.

Update (AP): WSJ reporter Tom Wright notes an amazing coincidence: Arch-terrorist and longtime Bin Laden crony Umar Patek was also captured in Abbottabad three months ago. Here’s a Jakarta Post story on the arrest published just two weeks ago. (Patek is Indonesian and was linked to the Bali bombings in 2002.) Pakistani intel is now claiming, per Wright, that they helped lead the U.S. to Bin Laden via information gleaned from Patek. That seems unlikely — apparently, we’ve known Bin Laden was in Abbottabad for six months or so, and if Pakistan was providing intel on OBL, Obama wouldn’t have waited until after today’s operation to phone Zardari. Still, it’s too startling a coincidence to actually be a coincidence. Did Patek lead us right to Bin Laden’s door by rendezvousing with him? And why didn’t Bin Laden run once Patek was picked up? He must have known by then that either Pakistan or the U.S. was interested in arresting local super-terrorists.

Update (AP): Howard Kurtz listened in on a conference call given by U.S. officials about the raid on the compound:

Security at the compound was “extraordinary,” an official said, with 12- to 18-foot walls topped by barbed wire. Yet the $1 million compound had no phone or Internet service. “Our best assessment was that bin Laden was living there with several family members, including his youngest wife,” the official said.

Asked what bin Laden did once the U.S. team landed, an official would say only: “He did resist the assault force.”

Officials said three other men were killed in the raid—one who is believed to be bin Laden’s adult son, and two couriers. One woman was killed when she was used as a shield by one of the combatants, they said. The U.S. team lost a helicopter due to mechanical failure.

I can’t wait for the full details tomorrow and then, in a year or two, the inevitable movie. More from ABC News and Brian Ross. It was, of course, the Navy SEALs who were the tip of the spear:

The U.S. had been monitoring the compound in Abbottabad for months after receiving a tip in August that Bin Laden might be seeking shelter there. He had long been said to be in the mountainous region along the Afghanistan, Pakistan border, hiding in a cave as the U.S. sought to kill him with drone strikes from above. Instead, he was in a house eight times larger than its neighbors, with a seven-foot wall and valued at $1 million. The house had no phone of television and the residents burned their trash. The house had high windows and few points of access, and U.S. officials concluded it had been built to hide someone.

According to U.S. officials, two U.S. helicopters swept into the compound at 1:30 and 2:00 a.m. Sunday morning. Twenty to 25 U.S. Navy Seals under the command of the Joint Special Operations Command in cooperation with the CIA stormed the compound and engaged Bin Laden and his men in a firefight, killed Bin Laden and all those with him.

Pakistani officials say it was a joint operation; U.S. officials say that only Americans were involved in the raid. Hmmmm. Oh — and Bin Laden did, reportedly, fire his gun. Savor the terror he must have felt in those last moments as those SEALs came through the windows and doors.

Update (AP): Amazing. This Pakistani IT consultant lives in Abbottabad and ended up tweeting about strange goings-on this morning without knowing the significance, of course. A few choice tweets:

Helicopter hovering above Abbottabad at 1AM (is a rare event).

A huge window shaking bang here in Abbottabad Cantt. I hope its not the start of something nasty :-S

the few people online at this time of the night are saying one of the copters was not Pakistani…

I wonder which cable news net will land the first interview with him tomorrow.

Update (AP): Tourism isn’t the only thing Abbottabad is known for:

A medium-sized city, Abbottabad is home to a large Pakistani military base, a military academy of the Pakistani army, and a major hospital and other facilities that would could have served as support for Osama bin Laden.

A senior Indonesian militant, Umar Patek, was arrested in Abbottabad earlier this year. Mr. Patek was protected by a Qaeda operative, a postal clerk who worked under cover at the main post office, a signal that Al Qaeda may have had other operatives in the area.

Here’s a Google satellite photo of what may or may not be the compound. Yochi Dreazen, National Journal’s national security correspondent, tweets, “Military source tells me #Seals built a full-scale mockup of #bin Ladin’s compound and spent weeks practicing the raid and learning layout.”

Update: An Al-Arabiya correspondent claims that two of Bin Laden’s wives and four of his sons were captured during the raid. Apparently, the key to the whole operation was finding and tracking Bin Laden’s most trusted courier, a process that took years — and involved info given by Guantanamo detainees:

Some time after Sept. 11, detainees held by the U.S. told interrogators about a man believed to work as a courier for bin Laden, senior administration officials said. The man was described by detainees as a protégé of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, and “one of the few Al Qaeda couriers trusted by bin laden.”

Initially, intelligence officials only had the man’s nickname, but they discovered his real name four years ago.

Two years ago, intelligence officials began to identify areas of Pakistan where the courier and his brother operated, and the great security precautions the two men took aroused U.S. suspicions.

Last August, intelligence officials tracked the men to their residence in Abbottabad, Pakistan, a relatively wealthy town 35 miles north of Islamabad where many retired military officers live.

Ultimately, it was the conspicuous size and security precautions taken at the compound that made it stand out. And when they got further intel that a family roughly the size of Bin Laden’s was living there, they nailed it down. In other words, Osama was, for all intents and purposes, hiding in plain sight.

Also: U.S. officials confirmed that Pakistan was not, in fact, informed before the operation.

Update (AP): It’s 2 a.m. and we probably know all we’re going to know tonight. Jazz Shaw will pick this up in the morning with an early thread on new developments. I feel strangely low key about the news, to my surprise; since it broke a few hours ago, I’ve been thinking of the sound the second plane made when it hit the second tower. Nothing will undo it, not even this. But it’s rewarding to know that Bin Laden spent 10 long years hiding his face from the world and that, when the moment of truth came, he had to look Americans in the eye. It’s better than a happy ending. It’s a just one.


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Thank you President Obama.

crr6 on May 1, 2011 at 10:45 PM

obama did in two years what bush failed to do in eight. if bush had not attacked iraq instead of focusing on afghanistan, how much sooner could we have killed bin laden?

sesquipedalian on May 2, 2011 at 7:48 AM

Perfectly put.

chumpThreads on May 2, 2011 at 7:52 AM

It’s hard isn’t it?

hawkdriver on May 2, 2011 at 9:03 AM

3000 comments or bust….or at least 2,976

thebrokenrattle on May 2, 2011 at 9:03 AM

Most likely CH-53s.

BobMbx on May 2, 2011 at 9:01 AM

Yeah, that’s a possibility too.

BadgerHawk on May 2, 2011 at 9:03 AM

“Justice has been done.”

That’s good enough for me.

chumpThreads on May 2, 2011 at 9:04 AM

Halleluiah!

Now let’s stop fiddle-farting around and get the World Trade Center rebuilt!

olesparkie on May 2, 2011 at 9:04 AM

Most likely CH-53s.

BobMbx on May 2, 2011 at 9:01 AM

Two CH47s

jake-the-goose on May 2, 2011 at 9:05 AM

Most likely CH-53s.

BobMbx on May 2, 2011 at 9:01 AM

Coolest, most intimidating helicopter there is, IMHO.

fossten on May 2, 2011 at 9:05 AM

I was on here up until p. 19 and am on back after some sleep. There was no sour grapes. Obama is a sucky president, terrorist dead or not.
He is dead and had been ordered killed by 3 presidents and finally that order is complete.
Does Obama deserve credit? Absolutely. The anti American scumbag could have stopped all missions of this type. He didn’t, Bin Laden is dead. Yahoo. He gets credit for continuing Bush’s policies and seeing it to the end. Kudos.
It is what comes next being led by him that scares me. Let the Lefties go. Their messiah does not have the character for what are likely the tests after this. But this, he passed with flying colors.

ORconservative on May 2, 2011 at 9:05 AM

Dear President George W. Bush,

“It is amazing what you can accomplish if you do not care who gets the credit.”

Signed,

Harry S. Truman

fossten on May 2, 2011 at 8:44 AM

That’s wonderful…thank-you. :)

tencole on May 2, 2011 at 9:05 AM

“Justice has been done.”

That’s good enough for me.

chumpThreads on May 2, 2011 at 9:04 AM

If that were really true, which it isn’t, you would have limited your appearance to the above comment instead of coming in here showing your ass to the entire community.

fossten on May 2, 2011 at 9:06 AM

Which lends much credence to the notion this was politically motivated and did not rise from any deep desire to defend the country.

Does this mean, by the way, that the libs now believe OBL was behind 9/11 and that they have given up on trutherism?

dogsoldier on May 2, 2011 at 8:57 AM

I don’t think it lends credence to that notion at all. I disagree with Obama on many many things but for the most part his foreign policy isn’t one of them (the way he wages diplomacy yes but most everything else no).

I think Obama is a fairly typical politician – a liar etc but I don’t think he actually wishes our country harm from a foreign power. He’s kept up our efforts in Afghanistan and Iraq and while he’s taken a long time to make important decisions this seems to be due to his inept ‘leadership’ style than any desire that harm come to our country. Killing Osama happened on Obama’s watch and that counts for something – even if it just means Obama kept the Bush strategies in place.

gwelf on May 2, 2011 at 9:07 AM

Have you seen anything on type of aircraft they were? I have to think it was all 47s, given the fuel requirements.

BadgerHawk on May 2, 2011 at 8:59 AM

I’m only guessing but I’d imagine the same thing but more based on the number of guys they stated went in. Three of our Black Hawks, especially Task Force birds would have a near impossible time getting 40 in this time of year in that region. It was either TF Chinooks or a combination of Chinooks and Black Hawks.

NSNQ

hawkdriver on May 2, 2011 at 9:08 AM

Obama is a sucky president, terrorist dead or not.

Yes he certainly is.

-gas till at 5.00/gallon
-country’s debt still in the trillions
-unemployment still over 10%
-still in 3 wars….none going very well
-obama still loathes the military and what it stands for.

tencole on May 2, 2011 at 9:09 AM

Two CH47s

jake-the-goose on May 2, 2011 at 9:05 AM

Do you have a link for that?

BadgerHawk on May 2, 2011 at 9:09 AM

Maybe 53s. They can all refuel in flight. I think this would be more up the 160ths alley though.

hawkdriver on May 2, 2011 at 9:10 AM

Well, there goes the Muslim Brotherhood vote. Heh.

Coronagold on May 2, 2011 at 9:11 AM

Ok, libtards, if this victory seems to belong to Obama then tell me what he did specifically – other than following the strategies set up by Bush – which lead to this?

The fact you come in here and chalk one up for Obama instead of for the men and women of our armed forces and intelligence community shows us your true colors.

You’re happy about this more because you think you can score political points than because justice was done to our enemy.

gwelf on May 2, 2011 at 9:11 AM

Isn’t is possible that whatever rank and file are left have gotten just a wee bit disillusioned about the Worldwide Jihad and gone back to their regular lives?

rockmom on May 2, 2011 at 7:09 AM

Yep, it’s possible. But I’m not so optimistic. The jihadist movement already has metastasized, and I expect the assassination to reinforce that process, with regional leaders eventually competing with each other on the world stage for preeminence.

petefrt on May 2, 2011 at 9:11 AM

I think Obama is a fairly typical politician – a liar etc but I don’t think he actually wishes our country harm from a foreign power. He’s kept up our efforts in Afghanistan and Iraq and while he’s taken a long time to make important decisions this seems to be due to his inept ‘leadership’ style than any desire that harm come to our country. Killing Osama happened on Obama’s watch and that counts for something – even if it just means Obama kept the Bush strategies in place.

gwelf on May 2, 2011 at 9:07 AM

“Nobody destroys America but me. Capiche?”

– Obama

fossten on May 2, 2011 at 9:12 AM

I’m sure bongo had to really weigh the decision

Do we do this without trying him and getting him defense attorneys?

Oh hell, do it, my polls are really bad

But make sure he has a dirty muzzy burial just like I want

Sonosam on May 2, 2011 at 9:12 AM

Thank you President Obama.
 
crr6 on May 1, 2011 at 10:45 PM

 
I couldn’t agree more.
 
Warrantless wiretapping
 
Secrecy
 
Signing statements
 
Indefinite detention
 
The Patriot Act
 
The Protect America Act
 
The Detainee Treatment Act
 
The Military Commissions Act
 
Thank you President Obama. Hooray.

rogerb on May 2, 2011 at 9:13 AM

In case FloatingRock stops back, this is from ABC:

“The U.S. team was on the ground for only 40 minutes, most of the time spent scrubbing the compound for information about al Qaeda and its future plans.”

BadgerHawk on May 2, 2011 at 9:14 AM

Whatever. Dude’s been dead for years. I am not saying I am not glad he is dead, just saying I have been glad he was dead for quite awhile now.

tbear44 on May 2, 2011 at 9:15 AM

Coolest, most intimidating helicopter there is, IMHO.

fossten on May 2, 2011 at 9:05 AM

A Cobra or two popping up from tree level have been known to evacuate bowels prior to target elimination.

TugboatPhil on May 2, 2011 at 9:15 AM

Thanks jake.

BadgerHawk on May 2, 2011 at 9:15 AM

Bongo is thinking that after offing the muzzy culprit he can use the pitical capital for another nation wrecking stimulus bill

Sonosam on May 2, 2011 at 9:16 AM

I was on here up until p. 19 and am on back after some sleep. There was no sour grapes.

I’ve seen a lot of sour grapes on every page. It’s been sour grapes weekend around here. On Saturday, people were upset that President Obama made jokes at the expense of poor, harmless Donald Trump. And last night, he had the temerity to be the President of the United States when bin Laden was killed.

YYZ on May 2, 2011 at 9:17 AM

“Nobody destroys America but me. Capiche?”

– Obama

fossten on May 2, 2011 at 9:12 AM

Sorta. What’s the point of creating your socialist utopia if some foreign power brings it down?

I really do believe that Obama’s hype from the campaign trail of 2008 about significantly changing how we do things regarding gitmo, Iraq, Afghanistan etc was thrown out the window once he actually became president and actually started receiving intellience briefs and speaking with personel who could actually tell him details of things about what’s going on in the world and it changed how he viewed things. It’s probaly the only thing of praise I have to say about him – once he got into office and saw the reality of the situation he changed course.

gwelf on May 2, 2011 at 9:17 AM

Thanks jake.

BadgerHawk on May 2, 2011 at 9:15 AM

Yes sir

jake-the-goose on May 2, 2011 at 9:17 AM

Credit to many and no need to refuse credit to Obama — he kept the hammer down and helped get this done. But the deficit will still be $1.8 Trillion this year, and there is nothing he can do to change this. He will get a very short term bump in ratings, but the election is a long way off and we will have lots of time to remind folks that Obama loves Pockeestahn and spent a summer there immersing himself in Islam.

Repeat this simple exercise with me: Obama … Pakistan … Obama … Pakistan. See? Nothing to fear.

Jaibones on May 2, 2011 at 9:01 AM

I have no problem giving him credit for giving the go ahead.
He wants America taken down a bunch of pegs, but not at the expense of a bunch of folks dead.
You cannot build a secular socialist utopia when islam threatens your backdoor.

Badger40 on May 2, 2011 at 9:17 AM

The ones who say Obama did in two what W could not do in eight should credit former President Bill Clinton for making all this possible.
He blew the chance to get OBL.

Please notice ‘blew’ and ‘Clinton’ were not in the same sentence.

TimBuk3 on May 2, 2011 at 9:17 AM

crr6, You are wanted over on the vote recount thread.

tbear44 on May 2, 2011 at 9:17 AM

Just saw the crawl on Fox News that Bin Laden’s corpse was burned. So, which was it?

Dino64 on May 2, 2011 at 9:17 AM

Sorta. What’s the point of creating your socialist utopia if some foreign power brings it down?

gwelf on May 2, 2011 at 9:17 AM

Reading my mind!

Badger40 on May 2, 2011 at 9:18 AM

I don’t get how they got that many people back out on one 47, though. Last night people were talking about 40 SEALS being involved in the raid. Plus OBLs body and whoever else they captured, plus the crew from the other 47.

BadgerHawk on May 2, 2011 at 9:18 AM

Have you seen anything on type of aircraft they were? I have to think it was all 47s, given the fuel requirements.

BadgerHawk on May 2, 2011 at 8:59 AM

Most likely CH-53s.

BobMbx on May 2, 2011 at 9:01 AM

Chinooks (47′s) and Blackhawks (One had to be destroyed)

I saw a headline that we handled the body “in accordance with Islamic practices”. Really? We decapitated him with a bowie knife while being filmed and drug the body through the streets behind a humvee?

cartooner on May 2, 2011 at 9:19 AM

I don’t get how they got that many people back out on one 47, though. Last night people were talking about 40 SEALS being involved in the raid. Plus OBLs body and whoever else they captured, plus the crew from the other 47.

BadgerHawk on May 2, 2011 at 9:18 AM

Good question – maybe some of the news is inaccurate and maybe some of it is being held close to the vest.

jake-the-goose on May 2, 2011 at 9:19 AM

And the tail boom pictured in this link is not from a 47.

BadgerHawk on May 2, 2011 at 9:21 AM

I’ve seen a lot of sour grapes on every page. It’s been sour grapes weekend around here. On Saturday, people were upset that President Obama made jokes at the expense of poor, harmless Donald Trump. And last night, he had the temerity to be the President of the United States when bin Laden was killed.

YYZ on May 2, 2011 at 9:17 AM

I think your full of crap. Most people here are willing to give Obama some kudos for sticking with things. It’s liberals coming here and pretending that Obama came down from the sky and made it happen that’s pissing us off – and the fact that every liberal poster is apparently determined to turn this event into a political victory for Obama and as a means of jabbing political opponents instead of a celebration at defeating one of our enemies.

I’m still waiting for the liberal thesis on what Obama did differently than Bush to pull this off.

Again, our men and women in the various services involved deserve our gratitude and thanks.

gwelf on May 2, 2011 at 9:21 AM

Thank you President Obama.

crr6 on May 1, 2011 at 10:45 PM

Yes, thank you Obama for not following through on anything you said during, or prior to the campaign, and instead acting – for once – like an adult and keeping all of George W. Bush’s policies relating to intelligence, prisoner detention, and the war in Afghanistan. Thank you for following up on the intelligence that we obtained through the policies of W. 4 years ago.

For once, Obama, thank you for not screwing it up through stupidity, incompetence, and ignorance. America will remember that you did something right in your 4 years by following your predecessor’s policies (even though you campaigned on claims that said policies were evil and anti-american).

It takes a special kind of stupid to try and claim credit for Obama on this. If a leftist had any intellectual honesty or consistency, they would be angry over this b/c it flowed directly from all of those “evil”, “fascist” anti-american and unconstitutional policies of George W. Bush.

But, I never expect a leftist to be intelligent or honest.

Monkeytoe on May 2, 2011 at 9:21 AM

gwelf on May 2, 2011 at 9:21 AM

+1

jake-the-goose on May 2, 2011 at 9:22 AM

jake-the-goose on May 2, 2011 at 9:10 AM

The picture of the crashed helicopter isn’t a CH47. If it’s actually the one they left behind, it looks like a Black Hawk tail. I’ll wait before I make any more guesses. Here’s what I do know for sure.

HE11 YEAH!!!!

hawkdriver on May 2, 2011 at 9:22 AM

Great coverage of the event:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1382649/Osama-bin-Laden-worlds-wanted-terrorist-killed-U-S-forces-Pakistan.html

jake-the-goose on May 2, 2011 at 8:30 AM

==============================================

From the above article:

” Experts used facial recognition techniques to identify the slain terrorist and performed DNA tests, the results of which will be available in the coming days. ”

WTF #1: No such thing as plastic surgery? Where would they have gotten DNA from to compare to? Would you not want to hold on to the body until the tests can verify the identity?

” U.S. officials have told broadcaster CNN that Bin Laden’s body has already been buried at sea in order to prevent the grave from becoming a shrine for extremists. ”

WTF #2: Why not put on film the body being dumped at sea?

” Officials said the body would be handled according to Islamic practice and tradition. That practice calls for the body to be buried within 24 hours. Saudi Arabia reportedly declined to take the body. ”

WTF #3:: Why should we give a $hit about burial according to religious practice and tradition? The same type of respect given to Daniel Pearl? The same type of respect given Kristian Menchaca and Thomas Tucker?

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/beheading_desecration_video_of_dead_us_soldiers_released_on_internet_by_al_qaeda_videoimages/

On GMA – bunch of retarded reporting – including lots of photos of bloodstains (who cares) & a Pentagon reporter saying that it was “probably a ‘double tap’ to the head, to ensure a kill” purely speculative – no actual data. These people truly believe what they see in the movies…

F__k them all.

Danny on May 2, 2011 at 9:22 AM

Jack Nicholson says it best beginning at 2:44 of this clip.

OneVision on May 2, 2011 at 9:22 AM

Do you have a link for that?

BadgerHawk on May 2, 2011 at 9:09 AM

All his info comes from his “brother” at Langley.

Translation: The news.

csdeven on May 2, 2011 at 9:22 AM

YYZ on May 2, 2011 at 9:17 AM

You see what you want to see. I congratulate the President for his get of OBL but I also want my president not to act like a child when people don’t behave as he would wish.

Cindy Munford on May 2, 2011 at 9:22 AM

When will the White Announce the $ 25,000,000 bounty (not payable since it was our Seals) will be converted to a green energy grant?

adplusone on May 2, 2011 at 9:23 AM

Why was he buried at sea?

Anyone?

darwin-t on May 2, 2011 at 8:26 AM

So when the ACLU finds out that some of the intel that was used in the takedown was from waterboarding, they won’t be able to exhume the body and file suit on its behalf. /s

smellthecoffee on May 2, 2011 at 9:23 AM

The picture of the crashed helicopter isn’t a CH47. If it’s actually the one they left behind, it looks like a Black Hawk tail. I’ll wait before I make any more guesses. Here’s what I do know for sure.

hawkdriver on May 2, 2011 at 9:22 AM

Agree -

jake-the-goose on May 2, 2011 at 9:23 AM

Obama get kuds for refocusing the effort in the AfPak theater and putting Petreaus in charge…..and for turning up the drone strikes in Pak AND making Osama priority number one.

It’s no mistake that the good General is going to be named as head of the CIA….the hot war is going under ground and the regular troops, for the most part will be coming home.

Specials ops will remain busy.

The president was wise in his choice to keep many of the Bush policies and wise to recalibrate alot of it.

rickyricardo on May 2, 2011 at 9:24 AM

YYZ on May 2, 2011 at 9:17 AM

Sour grapes? As opposed to what? Chimpy mcbush hitler?
PLEASE!
You’re full of crap.

ORconservative on May 2, 2011 at 9:24 AM

I think your full of crap. Most people here are willing to give Obama some kudos for sticking with things. It’s liberals coming here and pretending that Obama came down from the sky and made it happen that’s pissing us off

Even if you feel goaded by liberals here, that doesn’t mean it’s not a good day for the President and the country. The most gracious comments I’ve seen have been backhanded compliments along the lines of “he didn’t f*** up this one.”

YYZ on May 2, 2011 at 9:24 AM

Anyone passing out candy in the streets???

Danny on May 2, 2011 at 9:24 AM

csdeven on May 2, 2011 at 9:22 AM

Welcome back – my personal biographer.

jake-the-goose on May 2, 2011 at 9:25 AM

And the tail boom pictured in this link is not from a 47.

BadgerHawk on May 2, 2011 at 9:21 AM

Yeah but, but, but, his “brother” at Langley said it was so! That looks like a UH60 tail boom to me.

csdeven on May 2, 2011 at 9:25 AM

Thank you W for getting the ball rolling, still one classy guy through all this

the msm is just lovin dear leader today…he’s so presidential what gravitas

cmsinaz on May 2, 2011 at 9:25 AM

Welcome back – my personal biographer.

jake-the-goose on May 2, 2011 at 9:25 AM

Glad to see you’ve changed your tune this morning. Your idiotic, “My brother at Langley said….” horse$hit was getting old.

csdeven on May 2, 2011 at 9:28 AM

While a time for celebration, this does not change all that much on the ground. It is akin to the killing of Tojo during WWII; a top strategist is dead, but the war continues.

Vashta.Nerada on May 2, 2011 at 9:28 AM

Now Pakistan is our enemy right? Bcs after all, they were hiding the #1 wanted man in the world, right in plain sight.
And we couldn’t give them a heads up bcs they would have told him.
So tell me again why we aren’t making this sack of $hit country accountable for this?

Badger40 on May 2, 2011 at 8:12 AM

Probably has something to do with the fact that Pakistan has nuclear weapons, and a government that is bat$hit crazy.

But we could stop sending them billions of dollars in aid every year, and we could also stop calling them our ally, something they clearly are not.

AZCoyote on May 2, 2011 at 9:28 AM

csdeven on May 2, 2011 at 9:28 AM

Does the nurse know you’re back in the computer room?

jake-the-goose on May 2, 2011 at 9:28 AM

The most gracious comments I’ve seen have been backhanded compliments along the lines of “he didn’t f*** up this one.”

YYZ on May 2, 2011 at 9:24 AM

Then you haven’t been reading very closely.

BadgerHawk on May 2, 2011 at 9:30 AM

Obama get kuds for refocusing the effort in the AfPak theater and putting Petreaus in charge…..and for turning up the drone strikes in Pak AND making Osama priority number one.

With so many troops in theater, I’m not sure Osama should ever have been priority number one. But it is typical of the left’s focus on symbolism to do it that way.

Getting OBL is a nice-to-have; however, we have far, far bigger problems that this doesn’t even begin to solve.

Missy on May 2, 2011 at 9:30 AM

Even if you feel goaded by liberals here, that doesn’t mean it’s not a good day for the President and the country. The most gracious comments I’ve seen have been backhanded compliments along the lines of “he didn’t f*** up this one.”

YYZ on May 2, 2011 at 9:24 AM

Yes, b/c that is true. It’s not like Obama instituted any specific policy that we know of that lead to this. And he certainly was not involved in any intelligence gathering or in the strike itself (which would be true of any president). So, he did do some good things here, but let’s not pretend that he was the real catalyst making this happen.

And, it is not inappropriate to point out that most of teh things that led to this were mostly things that Obama vehemently opposed both prior to and during the campaign – adn that the leftists crowing over this victory for Obama were against evertying that led to this moment (i.e., interrogations, gitmo, keeping prisoners of war, the war on terror generally).

It’s nice to be nice and congratulate America on a good day like this, but don’t bury your head in the sand because of it.

Monkeytoe on May 2, 2011 at 9:30 AM

It is akin to the killing of Tojo during WWII; a top strategist is dead, but the war continues.

Vashta.Nerada on May 2, 2011 at 9:28 AM

I’m pretty sure you mean Yamamoto. I actually met one of the pilots who shot him down. Pretty cool dude.

csdeven on May 2, 2011 at 9:30 AM

I’m pretty sure you mean Yamamoto. I actually met one of the pilots who shot him down. Pretty cool dude.

csdeven on May 2, 2011 at 9:30 AM

Sure you did! – gotcha

jake-the-goose on May 2, 2011 at 9:31 AM

gwelf on May 2, 2011 at 9:21 AM

Summed up my sentiments to the tee.

crr6, chumpthread and sesquipedian wouldn’t give a military person the time of day. But they’re loving this. I wish everyone could have just started this entire celebration without the politics. But we had trolls who had to get their digs in. Well trolls, welcome to how it felt when we saw “Mission Accomplished” on that ships banner and you all sh1t all over President Bush for having the temerity to be CinC when the major fighting in Iraq was over.

I’m optimistic though. Maybe this is where you all turned a corner and saw the war against terrorism for what it is. Maybe when we have another Republican President you’ll still be excited when your military does something great like this.

hawkdriver on May 2, 2011 at 9:31 AM

So tell me again why we aren’t making this sack of $hit country accountable for this?

Badger40 on May 2, 2011 at 8:12 AM

Apparently this compound was just yards away from a elite Paki military compound. Someone described it as being akin to being yards away from West Point!

csdeven on May 2, 2011 at 9:32 AM

hawkdriver on May 2, 2011 at 9:31 AM

Very well said

jake-the-goose on May 2, 2011 at 9:32 AM

Even if you feel goaded by liberals here, that doesn’t mean it’s not a good day for the President and the country. The most gracious comments I’ve seen have been backhanded compliments along the lines of “he didn’t f*** up this one.”

YYZ on May 2, 2011 at 9:24 AM

It is a good day for this country and the President (I fixed the order in which you listed them). And you’re not looking hard enough to see people giving Obama credit but it’s amusing that you admit that liberals are goading us while also complaining that we’re not more gracious. To turn it back on you “all I see here are sour-grape liberals upset that Obama isn’t getting all of the credit”.

Apparently it’s your priority that one man get the credit that really belongs to 2 administrations (including Obama’s) and many many men and women in our various services. It mostly goes to the services.

gwelf on May 2, 2011 at 9:32 AM

While a time for celebration, this does not change all that much on the ground. It is akin to the killing of Tojo during WWII; a top strategist is dead, but the war continues.

Vashta.Nerada on May 2, 2011 at 9:28 AM

Like OBL sez: “I can be eliminated, but not my mission.”

tbear44 on May 2, 2011 at 9:34 AM

Summed up my sentiments to the tee.

crr6, chumpthread and sesquipedian wouldn’t give a military person the time of day. But they’re loving this. I wish everyone could have just started this entire celebration without the politics. But we had trolls who had to get their digs in. Well trolls, welcome to how it felt when we saw “Mission Accomplished” on that ships banner and you all sh1t all over President Bush for having the temerity to be CinC when the major fighting in Iraq was over.

I’m optimistic though. Maybe this is where you all turned a corner and saw the war against terrorism for what it is. Maybe when we have another Republican President you’ll still be excited when your military does something great like this.

hawkdriver on May 2, 2011 at 9:31 AM

Excellent

gwelf on May 2, 2011 at 9:36 AM

I’m optimistic though. Maybe this is where you all turned a corner and saw the war against terrorism for what it is. Maybe when we have another Republican President you’ll still be excited when your military does something great like this.

hawkdriver on May 2, 2011 at 9:31 AM

Hawk, you’re such a kidder…

ebrown2 on May 2, 2011 at 9:36 AM

csdeven on May 2, 2011 at 9:30 AM

Yes, you are correct. Need coffee.

Vashta.Nerada on May 2, 2011 at 9:36 AM

Reports this morning indicate the squad of U.S. Navy SEALS which ran the attack had two helicopters and this drone, known as the “Beast of Kandahar.”

The Lockheed Martin RQ-170 Sentinel is a fighter-sized aircraft with a 65-foot wingspan whose existence has only been official since 2009, despite being used throughout the war in Afghanistan and spotted by aviation enthusiasts. Based in Nevada and a Kandahar airfield — where its nickname as “the beast of Kandahar” derives — the RQ-170s main assignment has been reconnaissance and surveillance for ground troops.

jake-the-goose on May 2, 2011 at 9:39 AM

Politics anyone?……if you believe this you need therapy.

lilium on May 2, 2011 at 9:40 AM

Nice statement Secretary Clinton.

jake-the-goose on May 2, 2011 at 9:42 AM

Chimpyobamahitler is a blind squirrel that got a nut

Sonosam on May 2, 2011 at 9:44 AM

Next up: The Obamasiah will turn water into wine.

tbear44 on May 2, 2011 at 9:45 AM

YYZ on May 2, 2011 at 9:24 AM

“It is amazing what you can accomplish if you do not care who gets the credit.”

Harry S. Truman

tencole on May 2, 2011 at 9:46 AM

Summed up my sentiments to the tee.

crr6, chumpthread and sesquipedian wouldn’t give a military person the time of day. But they’re loving this. I wish everyone could have just started this entire celebration without the politics. But we had trolls who had to get their digs in. Well trolls, welcome to how it felt when we saw “Mission Accomplished” on that ships banner and you all sh1t all over President Bush for having the temerity to be CinC when the major fighting in Iraq was over.

I’m optimistic though. Maybe this is where you all turned a corner and saw the war against terrorism for what it is. Maybe when we have another Republican President you’ll still be excited when your military does something great like this.

hawkdriver on May 2, 2011 at 9:31 AM
Excellent

gwelf on May 2, 2011 at 9:36 AM

YESSIR.

fossten on May 2, 2011 at 9:47 AM

Chimpyobamahitler is a blind squirrel that got a nut

Sonosam on May 2, 2011 at 9:44 AM

Dude, not necessary. Not good.

hawkdriver on May 2, 2011 at 9:47 AM

hawkdriver on May 2, 2011 at 9:22 AM

Hey, Hawk…sorry I didn’t have a chance to say this last night but thank you so much for your service. Congrats also to all our armed forces and those who’ve worked so tirelessly to get this done. So exciting…proud to be an American.

Bee on May 2, 2011 at 9:48 AM

Bee on May 2, 2011 at 9:48 AM

I agree 100%!..Excellent post!..:)

Dire Straits on May 2, 2011 at 9:50 AM

Anyone notice how quiet the Middle East leaders are this morning ? – no one has issued a statement – except Israel.

Hmmm

jake-the-goose on May 2, 2011 at 9:52 AM

I think it was probably a Black Hawk that landed inside the compound. Probably to take out remains. If the walls were too high, it might have been too much of a “confined area”. They’d have to have OGE power. Plus no wind to take off into. Or if the compound was too tight, they might have had contact with the main or tail rotors.

Still just speculating.

hawkdriver on May 2, 2011 at 9:53 AM

1) Kudo’s to the intelligence community and everyone involved over the years in bringing this about.

2) Attaboy to the president for continuing the Bush policies and operations that brought this about. Another attaboy for keeping this an American operation and not trying to involve the international community.

3)I hope everyone that is lauding Obama for accomplishing in 2 years what Bush could not do in 8 realize that the intelligence that started this all was obtained from GITMO detainee(s) during the Bush presidency and the courier monitoring operation started back then.

4) I wonder if the GITMO intelligence was derived from water boarding.

JohnnyL on May 2, 2011 at 9:53 AM

jake-the-goose on May 2, 2011 at 9:52 AM

Hamas said they were not happy about us killing OBL.

BadgerHawk on May 2, 2011 at 9:54 AM

Bee on May 2, 2011 at 9:48 AM

Thanks Bee and Dire Straits.

hawkdriver on May 2, 2011 at 9:55 AM

Hamas said they were not happy about us killing OBL.

BadgerHawk on May 2, 2011 at 9:54 AM

Ahh – thanks for that – I forgot about Hamas…. surprised to hear their reaction…. Yuk Yuk

jake-the-goose on May 2, 2011 at 9:55 AM

Dire Straits on May 2, 2011 at 9:50 AM

3rd that!

cmsinaz on May 2, 2011 at 9:57 AM

Remember Abbottabad is not to be confused with Costellobad. Costellobad is the bigger one.

vcferlita on May 2, 2011 at 9:58 AM

I’ve seen a lot of sour grapes on every page. It’s been sour grapes weekend around here.

YYZ on May 2, 2011 at 9:17 AM

Technically, sour grapes refers to someone having an unquenchable desire for something, yet pretending they don’t want it because they can’t get it.

We all wanted Osama dead and didn’t care who the president is when it happens. The praise belongs to our military and intel folks. Obama’s credit goes only so far as he had the balls to sign the order and that he kept the Bush policies in place that led to the killing. Remember this….had those Bush policies not been in place, OBAMA WOULD NEVER HAD IMPLEMENTED THEM! It is disingenuous for Obama to take any credit for the outcome. If you would apply the same standards to Obama that you are applying to HA members here, you would be demanding that Obama credit Bush for this.

csdeven on May 2, 2011 at 9:58 AM

cmsinaz on May 2, 2011 at 9:57 AM

Great to see you!..It is a great day to be an American!..:)

Dire Straits on May 2, 2011 at 10:00 AM

Thanks Bee and Dire Straits.

hawkdriver on May 2, 2011 at 9:55 AM

Thanks to both of you!..:)

Dire Straits on May 2, 2011 at 10:00 AM

Dire Straits on May 2, 2011 at 10:00 AM

Amen DS

U S A, U S A!

great to see you too :)

cmsinaz on May 2, 2011 at 10:02 AM

GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS!

cmsinaz on May 2, 2011 at 10:03 AM

Thanks to both of you!..:)

Dire Straits on May 2, 2011 at 10:00 AM

I didn’t do anything. :D

Bee on May 2, 2011 at 10:04 AM

hawkdriver on May 2, 2011 at 9:53 AM

Again, thanks & God Bless for your service to our country. Same to all our Military families.

OmahaConservative on May 2, 2011 at 10:06 AM

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