BREAKING: BIN LADEN DEAD; Update: Killed “deep inside Pakistan” today in a firefight; Update: Found in Abbottabad; Update: Linked to Umar Patek? Update: Details of assault; Update: Early intel came from Gitmo detainees

posted at 9:59 pm on May 1, 2011 by Allahpundit

From Patrick Ishmael:

Topic as yet unknown. Putting this up as a placeholder until the regular crew arrives. If you run across anything, flag it in the comments, and I’ll update this when appropriate. Stay tuned.

Update: The AP has a brief story up. Nothing that we don’t already know (or I guess, not know,) but that page may update as new information emerges. Worth keeping an eye on.

WASHINGTON (AP) — The White House says President Barack Obama is making a late-night statement but is not announcing the topic that he will discuss.

Officials say the statement could come as early as 10:30 p.m. EDT.

It is highly unusual that the president would make a late-night statement with not even a hint about what he would discuss.

At this writing, we’re about 10 minutes from speech time, and still no firm ideas as to the subject. Sam Stein tweets:

white house is mum on topic. and rightfully so, only 15 min wait. but one official says its “Important enough that you shld pay attention”

Update: Narrowing down the topics.

Breaking – We are told it is a national security related announcement by the President

Update: This may be historic news, or it may not. Rumors swinging around wildly on Twitter. We’ll wait for the speech. If you have news, shoot it to me here or send it to the comments.

Update: BIN LADEN.

From Allahpundit:

Update (AP): Fox News says he was killed in a missile strike last week and that they’ve been waiting on an announcement until they had DNA confirmation from the remains that it was him. If there was ever a question of discontinuing drone attacks in Pakistan, there won’t be after this.

In related news, Osama Bin Laden was alive as of last week?

Update (AP): One of the reasons I assumed he’d died years ago was that, if he was alive, surely he’d be taunting the U.S. with video messages. As it is, how many new videos of him have there been since 9/11? Two? He dropped almost completely off the grid and stayed there — for nine and a half years. Why? Just too gutless to show his face on camera lest we glean something from the video about his whereabouts?

Update (AP): I’m mighty, mighty curious to find out how much of a role Pakistan played in this too. Remember this story from just three weeks ago about how they wanted the U.S. to wind down the drone strikes and start removing CIA personnel? Maybe dropping a dime on Bin Laden’s location is their way of sweetening the pot. Now that we have our prize kill, the public might accept relaxing the pace of drone strikes.

Update (AP): The Times reported on a major drone strike in North Waziristan on April 22 that killed 23 people. Presumably that’s the one that got Bin Laden. Who else was with him in a crowd that big?

A choice quote:

The drone strike on Friday came after Admiral Mullen delivered an unusually harsh message during his visit here, saying publicly that Pakistan’s spy agency, Inter-Services Intelligence, directly supported and abetted the Haqqani network of militants in North Waziristan. The network’s militants are responsible for many of the American casualties in Afghanistan, American commanders say.

Update (AP): Hold the phone — I’m seeing conflicting reports of where he was killed and neither involve Waziristan. A banner on CNN.com says it was inside Afghanistan. And a tweet from Breaking News says, almost unbelievably, that it happened outside Islamabad, a.k.a. the capital of Pakistan. If the latter is true, there are going to be a lot of uncomfortable questions being asked come morning.

Update (AP): U.S. relations with Pakistan will never be the same if this is true:

Osama bin Laden was killed by U.S. forces in a mansion outside the Pakistani capital of Islamabad along with other family members, senior U.S. official tells CNN.

Does this mean he wasn’t killed in a missile strike but in some sort of special forces op? Why didn’t the Pakistani media notice?

Update (AP): Maybe it wasn’t a drone strike after all:

CBS: Osama was “shot in the head.”

Update (AP): Good point from Dave Weigel: Now that we’ve gotten the scalp we wanted the most, the public will probably be even more inclined to support withdrawal from Afghanistan. Which, of course, is what Pakistan’s been after for years. Again, I’m very curious to know just what role their intel services played. Especially if the almost unbelievable detail about where this happened is true.

Update (AP): CBS is saying that he was killed in Afghanistan. Stay tuned; Obama will speak shortly. It’s nice to think of him being gunned down by U.S. troops, though, rather than blown to bits by a missile. It’s sweet to think that some of our guys got to see the look on his face when they came through the door.

Update (AP): Reuters says it was indeed U.S. special forces that did the honors. Awesome.

Update (AP): Obama’s speaking now. They’ve been developing a hot lead on Bin Laden for months; they tracked him to a compound in a town “deep inside Pakistan” and it all went down today, not last week as initially reported. There was a firefight and — amazingly — no American troops were harmed. O’s trumpeting Pakistan’s cooperation as I write this, but that’s thin gruel given the questions that are coming about who knew what in the Pakistani government about OBL moving around “deep inside” the country.

Update (AP): The city where they got him is named Abbottabad. It’s not in the tribal areas; it’s in the northeastern part of the country, just 75 or so miles from the seat of government in Islamabad. A telling aside from O’s speech: He said that he called Pakistan’s president after the incident to let him know — which, presumably, means there wasn’t Pakistani cooperation after all. As I said earlier, relations between us will never be the same.

All credit to Obama, though, for pulling the trigger and sending troops in to take care of business. If OBL hadn’t been there or if things had gone wrong, this would have been an international clusterfark, especially given how deep they were inside the country. Well done.

Update (AP): Dubya speaks:

Earlier this evening, President Obama called to inform me that American forces killed Osama bin Laden, the leader of the al Qaeda network that attacked America on September 11, 2001. I congratulated him and the men and women of our military and intelligence communities who devoted their lives to this mission. They have our everlasting gratitude. This momentous achievement marks a victory for America, for people who seek peace around the world, and for all those who lost loved ones on September 11, 2001. The fight against terror goes on, but tonight America has sent an unmistakable message: No matter how long it takes, justice will be done.

Update (AP): Via Mediaite, Obama officially shares the good news:

Update (AP): A fascinating detail from blogger Anil Dash: Abbottabad is actually a tourist town in Pakistan. So much so that its Wikipedia entry has an entire section about it. It’s basically the opposite of a cave in the tribal areas. Presumably Bin Laden figured the U.S. would never look for him in a town like that. Marc Ambinder’s administration sources say they think Bin Laden was holed up in the compound for six months at least. Can’t wait to find out if that’s true, or if he was actually out and about at times mixing with the tourists.

Now, a question: Is this just a coincidence or something more?

Update (AP): A senior administration official confirms that Pakistani leaders weren’t briefed until after the attack. For all of O’s lip service tonight about how much we value our partnership with Islamabad, that speaks volumes.

Update (AP): A great question from Sultan al-Qassemi:

I wonder if Arab & world leaders will send Obama cables congratulating the US on killing OBL…

Update (AP): Nicholas Jackson of the Atlantic says the location of the compound has already been marked — by someone — on Google Maps. Follow the link and have a look. Assuming it’s correct, the compound is less than a thousand feet away from a (rundown) Pakistani police station.

Update (AP): WSJ reporter Tom Wright notes an amazing coincidence: Arch-terrorist and longtime Bin Laden crony Umar Patek was also captured in Abbottabad three months ago. Here’s a Jakarta Post story on the arrest published just two weeks ago. (Patek is Indonesian and was linked to the Bali bombings in 2002.) Pakistani intel is now claiming, per Wright, that they helped lead the U.S. to Bin Laden via information gleaned from Patek. That seems unlikely — apparently, we’ve known Bin Laden was in Abbottabad for six months or so, and if Pakistan was providing intel on OBL, Obama wouldn’t have waited until after today’s operation to phone Zardari. Still, it’s too startling a coincidence to actually be a coincidence. Did Patek lead us right to Bin Laden’s door by rendezvousing with him? And why didn’t Bin Laden run once Patek was picked up? He must have known by then that either Pakistan or the U.S. was interested in arresting local super-terrorists.

Update (AP): Howard Kurtz listened in on a conference call given by U.S. officials about the raid on the compound:

Security at the compound was “extraordinary,” an official said, with 12- to 18-foot walls topped by barbed wire. Yet the $1 million compound had no phone or Internet service. “Our best assessment was that bin Laden was living there with several family members, including his youngest wife,” the official said.

Asked what bin Laden did once the U.S. team landed, an official would say only: “He did resist the assault force.”

Officials said three other men were killed in the raid—one who is believed to be bin Laden’s adult son, and two couriers. One woman was killed when she was used as a shield by one of the combatants, they said. The U.S. team lost a helicopter due to mechanical failure.

I can’t wait for the full details tomorrow and then, in a year or two, the inevitable movie. More from ABC News and Brian Ross. It was, of course, the Navy SEALs who were the tip of the spear:

The U.S. had been monitoring the compound in Abbottabad for months after receiving a tip in August that Bin Laden might be seeking shelter there. He had long been said to be in the mountainous region along the Afghanistan, Pakistan border, hiding in a cave as the U.S. sought to kill him with drone strikes from above. Instead, he was in a house eight times larger than its neighbors, with a seven-foot wall and valued at $1 million. The house had no phone of television and the residents burned their trash. The house had high windows and few points of access, and U.S. officials concluded it had been built to hide someone.

According to U.S. officials, two U.S. helicopters swept into the compound at 1:30 and 2:00 a.m. Sunday morning. Twenty to 25 U.S. Navy Seals under the command of the Joint Special Operations Command in cooperation with the CIA stormed the compound and engaged Bin Laden and his men in a firefight, killed Bin Laden and all those with him.

Pakistani officials say it was a joint operation; U.S. officials say that only Americans were involved in the raid. Hmmmm. Oh — and Bin Laden did, reportedly, fire his gun. Savor the terror he must have felt in those last moments as those SEALs came through the windows and doors.

Update (AP): Amazing. This Pakistani IT consultant lives in Abbottabad and ended up tweeting about strange goings-on this morning without knowing the significance, of course. A few choice tweets:

Helicopter hovering above Abbottabad at 1AM (is a rare event).

A huge window shaking bang here in Abbottabad Cantt. I hope its not the start of something nasty :-S

the few people online at this time of the night are saying one of the copters was not Pakistani…

I wonder which cable news net will land the first interview with him tomorrow.

Update (AP): Tourism isn’t the only thing Abbottabad is known for:

A medium-sized city, Abbottabad is home to a large Pakistani military base, a military academy of the Pakistani army, and a major hospital and other facilities that would could have served as support for Osama bin Laden.

A senior Indonesian militant, Umar Patek, was arrested in Abbottabad earlier this year. Mr. Patek was protected by a Qaeda operative, a postal clerk who worked under cover at the main post office, a signal that Al Qaeda may have had other operatives in the area.

Here’s a Google satellite photo of what may or may not be the compound. Yochi Dreazen, National Journal’s national security correspondent, tweets, “Military source tells me #Seals built a full-scale mockup of #bin Ladin’s compound and spent weeks practicing the raid and learning layout.”

Update: An Al-Arabiya correspondent claims that two of Bin Laden’s wives and four of his sons were captured during the raid. Apparently, the key to the whole operation was finding and tracking Bin Laden’s most trusted courier, a process that took years — and involved info given by Guantanamo detainees:

Some time after Sept. 11, detainees held by the U.S. told interrogators about a man believed to work as a courier for bin Laden, senior administration officials said. The man was described by detainees as a protégé of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, and “one of the few Al Qaeda couriers trusted by bin laden.”

Initially, intelligence officials only had the man’s nickname, but they discovered his real name four years ago.

Two years ago, intelligence officials began to identify areas of Pakistan where the courier and his brother operated, and the great security precautions the two men took aroused U.S. suspicions.

Last August, intelligence officials tracked the men to their residence in Abbottabad, Pakistan, a relatively wealthy town 35 miles north of Islamabad where many retired military officers live.

Ultimately, it was the conspicuous size and security precautions taken at the compound that made it stand out. And when they got further intel that a family roughly the size of Bin Laden’s was living there, they nailed it down. In other words, Osama was, for all intents and purposes, hiding in plain sight.

Also: U.S. officials confirmed that Pakistan was not, in fact, informed before the operation.

Update (AP): It’s 2 a.m. and we probably know all we’re going to know tonight. Jazz Shaw will pick this up in the morning with an early thread on new developments. I feel strangely low key about the news, to my surprise; since it broke a few hours ago, I’ve been thinking of the sound the second plane made when it hit the second tower. Nothing will undo it, not even this. But it’s rewarding to know that Bin Laden spent 10 long years hiding his face from the world and that, when the moment of truth came, he had to look Americans in the eye. It’s better than a happy ending. It’s a just one.

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I want Osama’s head on a pike in Times Square.

MadisonConservative on May 2, 2011 at 12:36 AM

It’s a shame we have become so civilized.

jake-the-goose on May 2, 2011 at 12:37 AM

What, sir, is uncivilized in that?

Gloating over the dead body of an evil doer is, to my mind, one of the most civilized things that can be done.

Aquateen Hungerforce on May 2, 2011 at 12:46 AM

I wonder if there are AQ cells that were under orders to automatically activate their plans upon the death of OBL?

Mallard T. Drake on May 2, 2011 at 12:32 AM

I take it as a good sign that there haven’t been nuclear or chemical mines detonated already.

(knock on wood)

JohnGalt23 on May 2, 2011 at 12:46 AM

College kids have flags? Brand new ones? Uhh huhh.

New Yorkers have flags? Brand new ones? Uhhh huhh.

angryed on May 2, 2011 at 12:45 AM

Why does it matter if the Democrats supplied them?

sharrukin on May 2, 2011 at 12:46 AM

For those folks who think this will win Obama the 2012 election. I would not be so sure.
dec5 on May 2, 2011 at 12:44 AM

Too early for that. It’s something else.

Socmodfiscon on May 2, 2011 at 12:46 AM

Give that US Special Forces guy who put a bullet in that bastards head a cigar.

maineconservative on May 2, 2011 at 12:46 AM

John the Libertarian on May 2, 2011 at 12:43 AM

Excellent post!..:)

Dire Straits on May 2, 2011 at 12:46 AM

@benpolitico Ben Smith
RT @joehagansays: RT @nbj914: Bin Laden’s compound was only 800 feet from police station. Already mapped on Google: http://bit.ly/mHj7mw

Notorious GOP on May 2, 2011 at 12:47 AM

My 2 cents. We should take Usama’s body to NYC and hang it at ground zero for all the world to see and let the families of those killed by him throw sh!t at him.

And we won’t. Because we’re us. Not them. And that makes all the difference.

ace tomato on May 2, 2011 at 12:47 AM

U.S. officials “shocked” at size and protection of the compound.

rockmom on May 2, 2011 at 12:46 AM

Any more details than that?

I think Pakistain has some explaining to do.

unseen on May 2, 2011 at 12:47 AM

College kids have flags? Brand new ones? Uhh huhh.

New Yorkers have flags? Brand new ones? Uhhh huhh.

Stop being so cynical and dumb.

YYZ on May 2, 2011 at 12:47 AM

His speech did suck.

jawkneemusic on May 2, 2011 at 12:44 AM

Which part sucked for you? Be specific.

John the Libertarian on May 2, 2011 at 12:47 AM

24 hour Wal-Mart in every town.

MadisonConservative on May 2, 2011 at 12:44 AM

Every town EXCEPT NYC and DC.

Care to try again? Where are all these flags from? One or two people with flags. OK. Thousands of people with brand new flags? No way. This was staged all the way.

angryed on May 2, 2011 at 12:47 AM

Americans are celebrating in spite of Obama. he and Michelle are laying in bed with their fingers in their ears and heads under pillows trying to drown out the celebration of American exceptionalism.

csdeven on May 2, 2011 at 12:47 AM

Long time HAs turning into Bots after Obama’s teleprompter session.

andy85719 on May 2, 2011 at 12:47 AM

Ugh,

thats page#18,

not,

pahe #18

canopfor on May 2, 2011 at 12:47 AM

hawkdriver on May 2, 2011 at 12:38 AM

And thanks to you, hawk. All of our brave men and women in the armed services helped to lead to this glorious day.

MadisonConservative on May 2, 2011 at 12:47 AM

Excellent news! May the heathen bastard rot in Hell….

Sherman1864 on May 2, 2011 at 12:48 AM

You people who want to wrap this turd in bacon before he is buried are making me ill. Do not denigrate bacon in this way. The world’s finest food should not be wasted in such a fashion. Wrap him in entrails. Smear him with pig shiite, but don’t defile the nation’s food, bacon, in this way.
SACRILEGE!

predator on May 2, 2011 at 12:48 AM

Well that didnt take long…

Jeez

theflyonthewall on May 2, 2011 at 12:48 AM

I love it when the US Military serves up justice. Go USA!!

tommer74 on May 2, 2011 at 12:44 AM

+1000

unseen on May 2, 2011 at 12:48 AM

Stop being so cynical and dumb.

YYZ on May 2, 2011 at 12:47 AM

No please tell me…where do thousands of college kids get brand new flags on a Sunday night? I’m curious to know where these stores exist in DC.

angryed on May 2, 2011 at 12:48 AM

A collection is being taken to send the Westboro Baptist Church group to protest at Osama’s funeral in Pakistan! All tickets will be one way!

fbcmusicman on May 2, 2011 at 12:48 AM

angryed on May 2, 2011 at 12:47 AM

Good heavens…. everything is a conspiracy.

Bradky on May 2, 2011 at 12:49 AM

Gloating over the dead body of an evil doer is, to my mind, one of the most civilized things that can be done.

Aquateen Hungerforce on May 2, 2011 at 12:46 AM

Don’t misunderstand – I agree – put his head on spike.

jake-the-goose on May 2, 2011 at 12:49 AM

Oh, well then I’m sure no other stores in Washington DC sell American flags.

Geez.

MadisonConservative on May 2, 2011 at 12:46 AM

Not that are open at midnight…

Not that I’m saying all of the revelry is astroturfed.

steebo77 on May 2, 2011 at 12:49 AM

The speech sucked.

unseen on May 2, 2011 at 12:46 AM

Which part sucked?

John the Libertarian on May 2, 2011 at 12:49 AM

Some people are wayyyy too jaded. It wouldn’t matter if Carrot Top were president. When Bin Laden, America cheered. No matter what.

MadisonConservative on May 2, 2011 at 12:33 AM

Some people are way too naive. Yes, America would cheer. But the left wouldn’t. I remember the gritted teeth and constipated looks from my lefty friends and acquaintances after 9/11 when they saw Bush’s approval ratings skyrocket, and they felt they had to lay off their usual “bush is an idiot” rhetoric for fear of looking traitorous. It was killing them.

I also remember the kids at the very left-leaning college I attended when Reagan was shot. The distinct lack of horror of the majority and the unseemly cheering of a rather large minority of the students, was disturbing to me even back then, when I was a lefty myself.

Dreadnought on May 2, 2011 at 12:49 AM

Every town EXCEPT NYC and DC.

angryed on May 2, 2011 at 12:47 AM

Okay then…you’re saying in New York City and Washington DC there aren’t that many stores that sell American flags?

Wake the hell up and stop looking for a reason to make this partisan. Be an American.

MadisonConservative on May 2, 2011 at 12:49 AM

NO SCHOOL TOMMORROW, LET PARTY LIKE IT’S 2012

steviedfromnc on May 2, 2011 at 12:50 AM

So here’s hoping he knew, that there was enough time before they blew his head off for him to have that thought, the Americans are here to kill me.

Congratulations to the US Military, the CIA, everyone who has worked so hard for so long to make this happen. And congratulations to Barack Obama, who didn’t abandon the fight, who used the tools that were left him by his predecessor to seek justice on behalf of us all.

If it’s any comfort to the more partisan GOP/Conservative types among us, it’s not like the Democrats are going to be able to make too much of this. They would rather have had him captured and put on trial. Not like they’re going to go around cheering Obama as some super bad-ass now. Not their kind of thing at all.

Bennett on May 2, 2011 at 12:50 AM

BTW the helicopter that’s been mentioned as being lost, according to various sources, had mechanical problems on the ground and was purposely destroyed by our guys rather than let someone else get their hands on a US ‘copter.

salmonczar on May 2, 2011 at 12:50 AM

predator on May 2, 2011 at 12:48 AM

LOL…great point…

unseen on May 2, 2011 at 12:50 AM

And? I never said the crowed wasn’t genuine. What I am saying is instead of giving a speech to the American people, for the American people, he gave yet another campaign speech all about HIM! The guys is shameless.

jawkneemusic on May 2, 2011 at 12:36 AM

Yeah, no, I was just pondering the reason behind the 1hour + delay!

cynccook on May 2, 2011 at 12:50 AM

24 hour Wal-Mart in every town.

MadisonConservative on May 2, 2011 at 12:44 AM

None in Chicago, zip, zero, nada, for what it’s worth or that it really matters.

Knucklehead on May 2, 2011 at 12:50 AM

RT @secupp: OBL’s ghost already has a twitter account. With over 15K followers. His location? Hell. @GhostOsama.

andy85719 on May 2, 2011 at 12:50 AM

WaPo reporting that an entire dorm at GWU emptied when a student ran through the halls yelling that bin Laden was dead.

NBC reporting that OBL was tracked through two couriers that had been delivering papers to OBL.

U.S. officials “shocked” at size and protection of the compound.

rockmom on May 2, 2011 at 12:46 AM

It would be funny if he was found because he insisted on having his New York Times paper every day.

slickwillie2001 on May 2, 2011 at 12:50 AM

Good heavens…. everything is a conspiracy.

Bradky on May 2, 2011 at 12:49 AM

OK tell me please how thousands of college kids get brand new flags on a Sunday night at midnight. I guess at the 24 hour Flags R Us store right?

angryed on May 2, 2011 at 12:51 AM

Not that are open at midnight…

steebo77 on May 2, 2011 at 12:49 AM

The news came at 10PM Eastern. Yes, there are.

MadisonConservative on May 2, 2011 at 12:51 AM

hawkdriver on May 2, 2011 at 12:38 AM

And thanks to you, hawk. All of our brave men and women in the armed services helped to lead to this glorious day.

MadisonConservative on May 2, 2011 at 12:47 AM

Amen to that.

Saltysam on May 2, 2011 at 12:51 AM

Every town EXCEPT NYC and DC.

Care to try again? Where are all these flags from? One or two people with flags. OK. Thousands of people with brand new flags? No way. This was staged all the way.

They’re probably handing them out on the street. I would

ace tomato on May 2, 2011 at 12:51 AM

I’ll give Obama credit, no matter what the circumstances were, with or without prior knowledge from Pakistan…we got the bastage! I’ll also say that Obama would never have had the chance to give the order if not for our military/intelligence folks and Bush laying the ground work. All in all a great night for the entire country! I am definitely tipping back a couple of cold ones in honor of everyone involved!

BadMojo on May 2, 2011 at 12:51 AM

I suffer Obama Derangement Syndrome. I will admit it. I cannot see anything positive in circumstances that increase Obama’s iron grip on the U.S.
andy85719 on May 2, 2011 at 12:45 AM

What does Obama have to do with the joy of the American Military wasting Osama?

cntrlfrk on May 2, 2011 at 12:51 AM

No please tell me…where do thousands of college kids get brand new flags on a Sunday night? I’m curious to know where these stores exist in DC.

Are you there? Do those flags have that unique Fresh Flag smell? Do you also not think that college kids and New Yorkers are not genuinely excited by the news? Because they are. And college kids and New Yorkers love America, and many of them have flags.

YYZ on May 2, 2011 at 12:51 AM

Which part sucked?

John the Libertarian on May 2, 2011 at 12:49 AM

Just the part where he started to where he stopped.

It’s okay to say his speech sucked when it did. Really.

Darksean on May 2, 2011 at 12:51 AM

College kids have flags? Brand new ones? Uhh huhh.

New Yorkers have flags? Brand new ones? Uhhh huhh.
Stop being so cynical and dumb.

YYZ on May 2, 2011 at 12:47 AM

Stop being so naive and ignorant.

Dreadnought on May 2, 2011 at 12:51 AM

Okay then…you’re saying in New York City and Washington DC there aren’t that many stores that sell American flags?

Wake the hell up and stop looking for a reason to make this partisan. Be an American.

MadisonConservative on May 2, 2011 at 12:49 AM

Maybe you should try to be one…

sandee on May 2, 2011 at 12:51 AM

Bin Laden had long eluded the allied forces in pursuit of him, moving, it was said, under cover of night with his wives and children, apparently between mountain caves. Yet he was determined that if he had to die, he, too, would die a martyr’s death.

His greatest hope, he told supporters, was that if he died at the hands of the Americans, the Muslim world would rise up and defeat the nation that had killed him.

The NYT obituary – they’re weeping over there.

Which part sucked?

John the Libertarian on May 2, 2011 at 12:49 AM

It wasn’t a bad speech but too much “Is” “ordered” no mention of grace toward GWB, who did much better in return…nothing memorable in the speech. He’s not Reagan to be sure.

Schadenfreude on May 2, 2011 at 12:51 AM

I also remember the kids at the very left-leaning college I attended when Reagan was shot. The distinct lack of horror of the majority and the unseemly cheering of a rather large minority of the students, was disturbing to me even back then, when I was a lefty myself.

Dreadnought on May 2, 2011 at 12:49 AM

I was at Harvard when Reagan was shot. People were laughing.

rockmom on May 2, 2011 at 12:52 AM

I watched the CNN video 9 min. 19 secs. Obama is going to get a bump in the polls out of this. What Obama said in his speech would have been more effectively said in 3 mins, short and without retorical flourishes would have given Obama a serious bump. I suspect the reason he was late giving the address was because he kept practicing the speech.

bigmike on May 2, 2011 at 12:52 AM

Baxter and Madcon, yep, a great night.

hawkdriver on May 2, 2011 at 12:52 AM

Wal-Mart stores nearest Manhattan are in North Bergen, Secaucus, and on Long Island.

Wal-Mart stores nearest Washington, DC are in Alexandria, VA and Landover Hills, MD.

Just saying…

steebo77 on May 2, 2011 at 12:52 AM

Someone called this earlier:

RT @Michael_Yon: Report: Body will be dealt with according to Islamic Law Why? We’ve been saying for years that OBL is not a… http://fb.me/XiOCMTSz

andy85719 on May 2, 2011 at 12:52 AM

Debbie Schlussel…

Bin Laden Dead, Islam Still Here: So, Who Gets the Multi-Million Dollar Reward?

Even five years ago, this would have been a much bigger story. But, now, it just isn’t. Regardless, whether or not he’s dead is irrelevant to the Islamic threat, and Islamic terrorism against America and the West will continue. Bin Laden has many imitators and many competitors within both the Al-Qaeda terror network and without; within Sunni Islam and from competing Shi’ite Islam and Hezbollah. While HAMAS and the Muslim Brotherhood were part of the Qaeda network (as was Hezbollah), and while the Brotherhood spawned Al-Qaeda and HAMAS, the groups competed. And they will continue to murder thousands of innocent civilians and target, particularly, Jews, Christians, and all Westerners, including Americans.

Also, with the Presidential election two years off, this won’t help Barack Obama then . . . or even now. Bin Laden’s death won’t stop $5 a gallon gas (and maybe even $7 or $8 a gallon gas) and the tough economy. It won’t change the major issue that continues to face all Americans: like the Clintonistas once said . . . It’s The Economy, Stupid.

In the Muslim world, all over the Arab street, they will likely never believe that Bin Laden is dead, even if a body is produced–and reportedly the U.S. has custody of Bin Laden’s body. They are the mothers of all conspiracy theorists. The other day, I was at a Christian Iraqi-owned supermarket. Even the Chaldean (Christian Iraqi) cashiers still believe Saddam Hussein and his sons, Uday and Qusay, are still alive, despite the pics and videos of the bodies. They think it’s fake. They’ll think this is fake, too. As will many Muslims around the world.

NBC News’ Senior Moron, Richard Engel, just stated on live TV, “This ends the global war on terrorism.” Well, it might end the non-existent “war” on terrorism. But it certainly won’t end the global terrorist war against us. That continues and grows and expands.

And that’s what counts. The Islamic threat long ago metastasized like a cancer because of how Presidents Bush and Obama pandered to it after 9/11 and beyond. This dead guy–Bin Laden–is an irrelevant aberration, and, frankly, Ayman Al-Zawahiri was the real leader and brains behind the organization anyway. Is he dead, too? Bin Laden isn’t much more than a dead body with little relevance to the continued Islamic threat against us, already inside America with a growing Muslim population, etc. And that’s not to mention the Muslim radical takeovers we helped foment in Egypt and Libya. That’s the more meaningful–and distressful development, not the body of a guy who’s been largely gone from the scheme of things for years now, anyway.

Rot In Hell, Osama Bin Laden. One down, 1.8 billion to go. . . many of ‘em inside U.S. borders, with the U.S. government at all levels kissing their asses.

The Muslim world is laughing at us that we think this is a big deal, that this will do anything to change the lethal threat Islam and Muslims pose to the West.

SouthernGent on May 2, 2011 at 12:52 AM

BTW the helicopter that’s been mentioned as being lost, according to various sources, had mechanical problems on the ground and was purposely destroyed by our guys rather than let someone else get their hands on a US ‘copter.

salmonczar on May 2, 2011 at 12:50 AM

How do you know this? :-O

cynccook on May 2, 2011 at 12:52 AM

So, uhh, anyone who cares know what impact this will have on today’s Canadian election?

YYZ on May 2, 2011 at 12:52 AM

I bet Bin Laden regrets allowing his iPhone app to “use his current location”.

adplusone on May 2, 2011 at 12:52 AM

I was at Harvard when Reagan was shot. People were laughing.

rockmom on May 2, 2011 at 12:52 AM

I was at Harvard when George W. Bush was reelected. People were crying.

steebo77 on May 2, 2011 at 12:53 AM

Even more fishy that Petraeus left his post knowing Bin Laden dead?

Socmodfiscon on May 2, 2011 at 12:44 AM

That happened a few days ago.

I thought the President said that this Osama thing happened today…

powerpro on May 2, 2011 at 12:53 AM

A big thank you to the intelligence people, in addition to the Soldiers who executed the deed.

Schadenfreude on May 2, 2011 at 12:53 AM

I’m curious to know where these stores exist in DC.

angryed on May 2, 2011 at 12:48 AM

If this is true, it will come out. Not all college kids are Obamabots.

csdeven on May 2, 2011 at 12:53 AM

Which part sucked?

John the Libertarian on May 2, 2011 at 12:49 AM

the begining and the middle. the ending was 50/50. Obama made the speech about him not about our soldiers and not about our country. He used it as a campaign speech. but you maybe didn’t see that nor hear all the I’s and me’s. And the crap about the day of 9/11 give me a break Obama could have been reading My pet goat with more emotion.

unseen on May 2, 2011 at 12:53 AM

Wake the hell up and stop looking for a reason to make this partisan. Be an American.

MadisonConservative on May 2, 2011 at 12:49 AM

You mean be an American by supporting the sacks of sh11T that just last night hosted a party where the entire time was spent mocking patriotism and loyalty to your country.

Yeah, I will jump right on that fckn bandwagon. This event will be forgotten by the end of the week, and jihadist will still be cutting heads off.

ClassicCon on May 2, 2011 at 12:53 AM

Okay then…you’re saying in New York City and Washington DC there aren’t that many stores that sell American flags?

MadisonConservative on May 2, 2011 at 12:49 AM

At midnight on a Sunday, yes that is what I’m saying there aren’t many stores open selling flags. Why is this so hard to understand?

angryed on May 2, 2011 at 12:53 AM

LOL…great point…

unseen on May 2, 2011 at 12:50 AM

Thanks. The nation’s greatest tasting food must be protected. It was meant for consumption by gentiles, not burying muzzie jihadi scum.

predator on May 2, 2011 at 12:53 AM

OK tell me please how thousands of college kids get brand new flags on a Sunday night at midnight. I guess at the 24 hour Flags R Us store right?

angryed on May 2, 2011 at 12:51 AM

It is washington DC for crying out loud. There are flags everywhere. Why can’t you accept that most Americans are really happy about this. these college students were between the ages of 8&12 when 9-11 hit — in other words old enough to remember how serious it was. It impacted their lives just as it did others. Yet you have to start some conspiracy theory because they are happy Bin Laden is dead…

Bradky on May 2, 2011 at 12:54 AM

Great news. Hats off to the president, the military leaders and our brave men and women on the ground. God bless you all!

Ted Torgerson on May 2, 2011 at 12:54 AM

canopfor on May 2, 2011 at 12:40 AM
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I don’t know about pommie but this news has spread like wildfire around Australia. Many are celebrating. My family has called from the us to mention this only.

promachus on May 2, 2011 at 12:46 AM

promachus:My wife cheered,than tears,and I think,there will
be relief somewhat,Canada,UK,Austerlia,and a few
other countries I`m sure are now knowing,victims
and Military personell did not die in vain,and
the fight is stll ongoing,but overall,great news
for allies,and for the US Military,a job well don
e————:)

canopfor on May 2, 2011 at 12:54 AM

“E tu Brute” still works.

Don’t you forget it Barak Husein Obama.

Caststeel on May 2, 2011 at 12:54 AM

They’re probably handing them out on the street. I would

ace tomato on May 2, 2011 at 12:51 AM

Like places like WalMart, Lowes, Menards did after 9/11.

Knucklehead on May 2, 2011 at 12:54 AM

Stop being so cynical and dumb.

YYZ on May 2, 2011 at 12:47 AM

Stop drinking the Obama koolaid.

idesign on May 2, 2011 at 12:54 AM

Is there always a crowd of college kids at the White House??

Good Lord, the president had hardly finished speaking and these guys showed up.

Where do they come from?

cntrlfrk

They were bused in. That’s why his speech was an hour late.

These people are probably a little confused. They’re usually burning flags.

Mark1971

While blaming George Bush for bringing down the towers.

xblade on May 2, 2011 at 12:54 AM

Congrats to Obama for helping pull this off.
Carter for now reclaims the lead as worst President ever.

Goodale on May 2, 2011 at 12:54 AM

I hope,the weapon used,is Christened,

Sarah Palin Special!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(sarc)

canopfor on May 2, 2011 at 12:32 AM

Why?

It should be named “GWB”.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on May 2, 2011 at 12:55 AM

‘The Terrorist Osama Bin Laden’ is an anagram of ‘Mr. Rotten Arab Sh!t dies alone’.

Sharke on May 2, 2011 at 12:55 AM

A big thank you to the intelligence people, in addition to the Soldiers who executed the deed.

Schadenfreude on May 2, 2011 at 12:53 AM

Yes a big thank you is in order for them and the 1st responders who have been lost.

unseen on May 2, 2011 at 12:55 AM

At midnight on a Sunday, yes that is what I’m saying there aren’t many stores open selling flags. Why is this so hard to understand?

angryed on May 2, 2011 at 12:53 AM

You’ve never been to D.C. I presume? The place never sleeps.

SouthernGent on May 2, 2011 at 12:55 AM

in other words old enough to remember how serious it was. It impacted their lives just as it did others. Yet you have to start some conspiracy theory because they are happy Bin Laden is dead…

I think we’re being trolled. Maybe we should just let him troll himself to sleep.

YYZ on May 2, 2011 at 12:55 AM

unseen on May 2, 2011 at 12:53 AM

Thanks, Mr. Vague. Tell me which lines of the speech you disagree with.

John the Libertarian on May 2, 2011 at 12:55 AM

Twitter post:

Johnnydontlike John Phillips
by AnnCoulter
Ok everyone, here’s a hanging curve ball! RT @davidgregory US ensuring bin Laden’s body is handled in accordance with Islamic tradition.

Are you frackin’ kidding me???

Darksean on May 2, 2011 at 12:55 AM

SouthernGent on May 2, 2011 at 12:52 AM

Trust her to be the typical classless a**hole.

MadisonConservative on May 2, 2011 at 12:55 AM

SouthernGent on May 2, 2011 at 12:52 AM

Sadly, she’s absolutely right.

Schadenfreude on May 2, 2011 at 12:55 AM

“Large plot of land…8 times bigger than surrounding homes…7 foot privacy walls…3 story house…no phone or Internet….extraordinary security…property was unlike anything that had ever been seen inside Pakistan or Afghanistan…OBL had NOT been seen but U.S. intelligence concluded he had to be there.”

Wow.

rockmom on May 2, 2011 at 12:56 AM

CNN concerned about handling of OBL’s corpse.

Wrapped in bacon, anyone?

Bruno Strozek on May 2, 2011 at 12:56 AM

Baxter and Madcon, yep, a great night.

hawkdriver on May 2, 2011 at 12:52 AM

hawkdriver:I`m out too Hawk,thank-you Hawk…God Bless:)

canopfor on May 2, 2011 at 12:56 AM

Awesome. You know the guys that went to get him were the absolute best – guys that live and breath special operations every waking minute of their life.

It’s both ironic and comforting to know that the guys who most deserved to put the bullet through his head were also the guys most capable of doing so.

And if President Obama did in fact ok this operation without consulting Pakistan – well done.

It’s a great day for America.

BadgerHawk on May 2, 2011 at 12:56 AM

Trust her to be the typical classless a**hole.

MadisonConservative on May 2, 2011 at 12:55 AM

In this case, though, she’s right. Read it again and disagree with which part?

Schadenfreude on May 2, 2011 at 12:56 AM

Damn straight. And I hope the gallant soldier who put one through Osama’s head gets that reward from the FBI.

MadisonConservative on May 2, 2011 at 12:42 AM

“Ghost”, John Ringo, fiction but prescient.

Who is John Galt on May 2, 2011 at 12:56 AM

It is washington DC for crying out loud. There are flags everywhere.
Bradky on May 2, 2011 at 12:54 AM

At midnight on a Sunday there are thousands of flags for sale? Everywhere? Really? And all the flags are brand new, and the same size? Really?

angryed on May 2, 2011 at 12:57 AM

For the folks that want to know the name of the man that did it. I think we might not ever. For his own safety. The entire Jihadi Movement will be obliged to try to kill him. That kind of man will probably not need the distinction anyways. It’s not what makes them tic.

hawkdriver on May 2, 2011 at 12:57 AM

IT’S THE TROOPS NOT STUDENTS

steviedfromnc on May 2, 2011 at 12:57 AM

This was a five barf bag speech. It was about Obama. I, I, I, The first big round of the election.

On the other hand, Hot Air was the first info source anywhere to break the news and subject of the usual Obama drivel.

On the other hand, Osama B. L. would seem to be dead. Which is a good thing.

Dhuka on May 2, 2011 at 12:57 AM

At midnight on a Sunday, yes that is what I’m saying there aren’t many stores open selling flags. Why is this so hard to understand?

angryed on May 2, 2011 at 12:53 AM

Because NYC and DC are bustling, huge cities that never sleep. You act like these places are towns with less than 1000 people. Hell, I lived in the country, and could hit a Wal Mart within 10 minutes. You’re just taking some nonsensical notions for granted. I’ll go get you sneakers, cinnamon dental floss, and a new couch in 20 minutes.

MadisonConservative on May 2, 2011 at 12:57 AM

Abbottabad? Is that anywhere near Costelloabad? :D

What a HUGE win for the USA thanks to our magnificent military! Obama can take credit for following in GW’s footsteps.

The Evil Doctor K on May 2, 2011 at 12:58 AM

I think we’re being trolled. Maybe we should just let him troll himself to sleep.

YYZ on May 2, 2011 at 12:55 AM

Who’s this ‘we’? You got a mouse in your pocket?

Lanceman on May 2, 2011 at 12:58 AM

It should be named “GWB”.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on May 2, 2011 at 12:55 AM

I’ll go with American justice.

unseen on May 2, 2011 at 12:58 AM

Congrats to Obama for helping pull this off.
Carter for now reclaims the lead as worst President ever.

Goodale on May 2, 2011 at 12:54 AM

Sorry if I disagree with you. Omama could give a rats ass about getting Bin Laden . It’s all about getting re -elected for him.

sandee on May 2, 2011 at 12:58 AM

CNN concerned about handling of OBL’s corpse.

Wrapped in bacon, anyone?

Bruno Strozek on May 2, 2011 at 12:56 AM

Soak his burial shroud in pig’s blood and lay him to rest. His soul deserves to die as much as he did.

KingGold on May 2, 2011 at 12:58 AM

FDNY firefighters in the streets of NYC!!

rockmom on May 2, 2011 at 12:58 AM

Bury the man in Hell, Michigan.

stldave on May 2, 2011 at 12:58 AM

In this case, though, she’s right. Read it again and disagree with which part?

Schadenfreude on May 2, 2011 at 12:56 AM

One down, 1.8 billion to go? Revolting.

MadisonConservative on May 2, 2011 at 12:58 AM

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