Trump to China: “Listen, you motherf***ers, we’re going to tax you 25 percent”

posted at 2:55 pm on April 29, 2011 by Allahpundit

Via Mediaite, which has excerpts from last night’s F-bomb cavalcade. One of our commenters in Headlines watched the clip and observed that Trump is basically a leftist caricature of Republicans brought to life. Precisely — but with the caveat that something like 20 percent of the GOP wants to embrace the caricature. (That number might already be slipping.) He knows he’s too compromised on conservative principles to get traction with the base so he overcompensates with tell-it-like-it-is populist bravado aimed at framing himself as the ultimate regular-guy outsider. Calling the Chinese MFers is the logical extension of that; if he can’t address economic anxieties with a serious policy solution, at least he can do it with rhetorical empowerment. That’s why Reagan, who did have a serious Cold War strategy, didn’t have to say “Tear down this motherf***ing wall” instead.

Just to follow up on the point about leftist caricature, though, I’m intrigued by this tidbit from his trip to New Hampshire:

Even as reporters assailed him with questions this week about the president’s birth certificate, Mr. Trump sought to dispel any notion that his candidacy is a public relations gimmick. He dangled the idea that reporters would be “surprised” by what he announces next month, soon after his NBC television show ends for the season on May 22.

“When the show is over, I will be free to announce,” he said. “I think you will be surprised at a number of things, but I think you will be surprised at what my announcement is.”

He’s not dumb, so he surely realizes by now that he has no shot at winning. As much as voters may enjoy this sort of “f*** the world” pandering on the stump, they’re not going to entrust the nuclear arsenal to a guy prone to rhetoric like this. Remember how Howard Dean, another man of righteous rage, was ahead in the polls until the primaries began and he suddenly realized that he was a bit too “much” for most Democrats? Trump will experience that too. So he’s almost certainly not going to run, in which case, what will the “surprising” announcement be? If he walked out and admitted that this has all been a goof aimed at seeing just how far he could get in the GOP polls using lowest-common-denominator populist rhetoric, it’d be one of the great pranks of all time. Liberals would go from loathing him to building statues of him in an instant. I know he’s not going to say that — realistically, he’ll give some excuse about being “better able to influence the process on the outside” or whatever — but still. It’d be epic. Content warning for what follows, if you please.


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Oh yeah, this too. The Trump critics just can’t seem to grasp this for some reason.

Knucklehead on April 29, 2011 at 3:24 PM

Talent hits a target no one else can hit. Genius hits a target no one else can see. Hotair can not even see the target.

HalJordan on April 29, 2011 at 3:28 PM

As others have said, the only reason Trump is even on the radar is that he’s doing the job that conservatives want to do, in regards to going after Obama.

If people think he’s conservative, they’re sadly mistaken. However, if you had a conservative candidate that attacked Obama, Trump’s ‘support’ would vanish overnight.

This should be a wake-up call to the GOP that people are angry, and that they do not want politics as usual. (As if the Tea Party wasn’t enough of one..) Considering the GOP’s track record, I’m rather confident that they’ll learn the exact wrong lesson from this.

Scott H on April 29, 2011 at 3:29 PM

Trump has done more damage to the Republicans in 2 months than all the rinos and establishment types in decades.

Kissmygrits on April 29, 2011 at 3:29 PM

I’m wondering if his Tea Party support should actually be indicative of something else – maybe more people are involved in the Tea Party because they want to “stick it to the man” rather than because they are conservatives. Sure, there is a wide overlap, but something tells me that not all Tea Partiers necessarily have a well thought out political ideology other than “stop taking my money to do things that I don’t give a sh!t about”. They want to back an outsider who gives voice to their feelings – which shows why Trump and Palin share supporters.

miConsevative on April 29, 2011 at 3:22 PM

Liberals dismiss this, but as people keep saying, the Tea Party is nonpartisan and nonideological. They are not conservative or libertarian. They have one unifying principle: government is too big. What is awful is that Trump’s ideals have been completely antithetical to that, whether promoting socialized medicine, or abusing eminent domain.

MadisonConservative on April 29, 2011 at 3:29 PM

By the way, one of the reasons I’m glad Trump is running is that it exposes just how fraudulent so much of the RINO-baiting is. People like me get ripped on from time to time for not being conservative enough, yet this guy has at one time or another been a heretic on virtually every single right-wing core belief — really, every one — and yet he’s instantly forgiven just for talking really, really tough. Hilarious.

Allahpundit on April 29, 2011 at 3:15 PM

Honey, you’re the one who keeps calling yourself a candy-a** RINO. And I can’t count the times I’ve read “McCain haters” in your posts, so let’s stop with baiting projection, okay? Trump’s no conservative; neither are you.

DaydreamBeliever on April 29, 2011 at 3:29 PM

Who is that indulges in Christie “porn” at every opportunity? At least Gov. Christie has some governing credentials to back up his bravado but it’s tough talk just the same.

Cindy Munford on April 29, 2011 at 3:28 PM

In Allahpundit’s defense, his inclusion of any piece of news in this blog doesn’t necessarily mean he agrees with its premise.

gryphon202 on April 29, 2011 at 3:30 PM

Well in Alinsky auxiliary fashion, you have certainly been trying to make a “leftist caricature” out of him, but you are still failing.

HalJordan on April 29, 2011 at 3:25 PM

Christ, you people who label everyone you disagree with as leftists or Alinskyites are like cockroaches.

MadisonConservative on April 29, 2011 at 3:30 PM

the_nile on April 29, 2011 at 3:27 PM

I don’t know if that or anything would work. She has been ahead of the game on so many things. Serious things but she is discounted. I do it myself, all based on the media, thereby the public’s, possible reaction. I will defend Mr. Trumps right to use his celebrity as a bully pulpit but I can’t take him seriously.

Cindy Munford on April 29, 2011 at 3:31 PM

Cindy Munford on April 29, 2011 at 3:25 PM

When people like Sarah Palin can garner as much support as she does, how can you blame the MSM for doing just that? I mean really, is SP that much different from Rush or Ann Coulter? Has she been any more detailed in expressing her opinions? Has she been any more perceptive? Since stepping down as governor (of a microscopically-populated state) is she really anything more than a media personality with right wing political opinions and the occasionally memorable sound bite?

MJBrutus on April 29, 2011 at 3:31 PM

The only reason Trump is even being considered is because of the total failure of the GOP to do anything other than bend over and take it up the tailpipe.

sharrukin on April 29, 2011 at 3:04 PM

No wonder, Republicans own the K-Y and Vaseline factories, so the “taking” goes along smooth and silky.

Mcguyver on April 29, 2011 at 3:31 PM

Typically, they are. It’s politician who pretzel-ize themselves that make problems seem harder than they are.

SouthernGent on April 29, 2011 at 3:23 PM

Exactly! The little debt and deficit problem we have in this country is incredibly easy. Do away with all entitlements and there is no debt, since the social security program that we owe so much money to is now gone, or deficit, since the majority of the budget was dedicated to entitlement spending. It really is simple.

DFCtomm on April 29, 2011 at 3:32 PM

MJBrutus:

Short answer to your question: Yes, SP is that much different from Rush or Coulter.

Scott H on April 29, 2011 at 3:33 PM

I mean really, is SP that much different from Rush or Ann Coulter? Has she been any more detailed in expressing her opinions?

MJBrutus on April 29, 2011 at 3:31 PM

Rush or Ann Coulter have both been severely disinclined to seeking elected office — period. Her opinions, as well as her administrative track record, are all quite well-documented. Her detractors must be willfully ignorant, and wish to remain so, in order to to try and seriously argue that Palin’s track record is thin.

gryphon202 on April 29, 2011 at 3:33 PM

I still think the new Pres should make him ambassador to China.

I hope he is just trying to show the Republicans how it is done and then he is going to step back and watch the economy start working with a conservative in office so he can make money on the housing market again.

jeffn21 on April 29, 2011 at 3:34 PM

Trump has done more damage to the Republicans in 2 months than all the rinos and establishment types in decades.

Kissmygrits on April 29, 2011 at 3:29 PM

Not true, or more to the point, the most damaged goods are the candy-assed RINOs, and as such it couldn’t come soon enough.

Mcguyver on April 29, 2011 at 3:34 PM

Scott H on April 29, 2011 at 3:33 PM

Thank you. Now, as Trump would say, let’s see the long form answer.

MJBrutus on April 29, 2011 at 3:34 PM

Bingo, and it’s not too different from the commotion people made over Chris Christie. Conservative on some issues, liberal on others that people cared about…but hey, he YELLED!

MadisonConservative on April 29, 2011 at 3:18 PM

I can take Christie more than The Donald, because he’s actually put himself up for, and is governing in, a lower elected office before deciding it’s time to run for the presidency. Like Giuliani before him, his template is probably too liberal to win the GOP nomination when push comes to shove, but as governor he has to provide more than sound bites, and will have to answer for whatever actions he takes that might show questionable fiscal responsibility.

jon1979 on April 29, 2011 at 3:34 PM

jeffn21: If Trump’s goal is to ‘show the GOP how it is done’, I think he’s going about it the wrong way.

Scott H on April 29, 2011 at 3:35 PM

Has she been any more detailed in expressing her opinions? Has she been any more perceptive? Since stepping down as governor (of a microscopically-populated state) is she really anything more than a media personality with right wing political opinions and the occasionally memorable sound bite?

MJBrutus on April 29, 2011 at 3:31 PM

Yes she has been more detailed than most potential candidates and she has been more perceptive than many of the commentators.

You just have no idea what she is saying or what she has written because you choose to remain uninformed on it.

sharrukin on April 29, 2011 at 3:35 PM

Trump is a big effing deal. For all the wrong reasons.

Huck Schmucks: Maurice Clemmons wasn’t a big deal.
gryphon202 on April 29, 2011 at 3:04 PM

It pains me to have to defend Huck, but this is a Straw man. I don’t know anyone who argued that it wasn’t a “big deal”, just that he’s not the one who let him out on parole.

Buy Danish on April 29, 2011 at 3:36 PM

Her detractors must be willfully ignorant, and wish to remain so, in order to to try and seriously argue that Palin’s track record is thin.

gryphon202 on April 29, 2011 at 3:33 PM

Executive experience:

Obama: ~830 days as President
Palin: ~966 days as Governor (+ some mayoral time)

Not really indicative of much, but I’m just sayin…

Abby Adams on April 29, 2011 at 3:36 PM

What a bunch of whimps and crybabies inhabit the threads of Hot Air. Of course you hate him. Like the house dog hates the wolf. You hate him because he’s a real man whose shown you all for being the navel-gazing ninnies you are.

For years, the Repubics have lamented the Birther issue and wished it would go away. Now, in a few short weeks, Trump made it go away. Instead of giving the man credit, you only whine. Prepare for more fun times, as I don’t think he’s going away- but don’t worry, once he’s done eating he’ll let you take your fill.

Whimps

sartana on April 29, 2011 at 3:36 PM

If he walked out and admitted that this has all been a goof aimed at seeing just how far he could get in the GOP polls using lowest-common-denominator populist rhetoric, it’d be one of the great pranks of all time.

If Trump were to do this, it really wouldn’t surprise me very much.

Aitch748 on April 29, 2011 at 3:36 PM

MJBrutus: Well, first of all, Palin is actually willing to seek public office. Without that willingness, I’m not sure how anyone can be expected to do well in public office.

Scott H on April 29, 2011 at 3:36 PM

Liberals dismiss this, but as people keep saying, the Tea Party is nonpartisan and nonideological. They are not conservative or libertarian. They have one unifying principle: government is too big. What is awful is that Trump’s ideals have been completely antithetical to that, whether promoting socialized medicine, or abusing eminent domain.

MadisonConservative on April 29, 2011 at 3:29 PM

Agree 100%. I think conservatives who use Tea Party and conservatism interchangeably are wrong and doing a disservice to both movements. Smaller gov’t is bigger than conservatism – we need to take this view of the Tea Partier to counter the ‘right-wing, lunatic fringe’ rhetoric that’s out there.

Also, all those thinking Palin can’t win over independents – I’m guessing the supporters she shares with Trump ARE independents. It’s the most logical explanation.

miConsevative on April 29, 2011 at 3:36 PM

People like me get ripped on from time to time for not being conservative enough, yet this guy has at one time or another been a heretic on virtually every single right-wing core belief — really, every one — and yet he’s instantly forgiven just for talking really, really tough. Hilarious.

Allahpundit on April 29, 2011 at 3:15 PM

Perhaps it’s because people know what he looks like…

Lanceman on April 29, 2011 at 3:37 PM

gryphon202 on April 29, 2011 at 3:33 PM

Thin? A see-through blouse is thin. A snake under a fallen anvil is thin. There isn’t a word to describe the lightness of being that is her political resume.

MJBrutus on April 29, 2011 at 3:37 PM

Executive experience:

Obama: ~830 days as President
Palin: ~966 days as Governor (+ some mayoral time)

Not really indicative of much, but I’m just sayin…

Abby Adams on April 29, 2011 at 3:36 PM

And that’s not counting the time Palin spent as a business woman and a ranking member on the state resource board.

gryphon202 on April 29, 2011 at 3:37 PM

You hate him because he’s a real man

sartana on April 29, 2011 at 3:36 PM

Okay, let’s get this crystal clear:

People who consider Donald Trump a “real man” don’t know what a “real man” is.

MadisonConservative on April 29, 2011 at 3:38 PM

Scott H on April 29, 2011 at 3:36 PM

So, if Rush or Ann entered the GOP contest, would you vote for them?

MJBrutus on April 29, 2011 at 3:38 PM

When people like Sarah Palin can garner as much support as she does, how can you blame the MSM for doing just that? I mean really, is SP that much different from Rush or Ann Coulter? Has she been any more detailed in expressing her opinions? Has she been any more perceptive? Since stepping down as governor (of a microscopically-populated state) is she really anything more than a media personality with right wing political opinions and the occasionally memorable sound bite?

MJBrutus on April 29, 2011 at 3:31 PM

If Sarah Palin isn’t a politician then she isn’t anything. She isn’t as good as either Rush or Coulter as a media personality. Her only real purpose is as a politician and if she can’t do that well then I have no use for her.

DFCtomm on April 29, 2011 at 3:38 PM

Trump is quintessential American like George Patton and Joe DiMaggio. Real Americans can feel it in their blood. Evermore irrelevant Alinsky useful tool hotair, which attempts to trash Trump like it thinks it is dailykos and Trump is Sarah Palin, will just have to suck it up or go completely the way of Charles Johnson. So sad. Lead, follow, or get the Hell out of the way!

HalJordan on April 29, 2011 at 3:38 PM

There isn’t a word to describe the lightness of being that is her political resume.

MJBrutus on April 29, 2011 at 3:37 PM

So I guess that means you’ll be voting for Obama over Palin, if that’s what it comes down to in the general. It would be an exercise in utter futility for me to convince you to educate yourself properly.

gryphon202 on April 29, 2011 at 3:38 PM

MJBrutus on April 29, 2011 at 3:31 PM

Why yes, yes she is and has been valid and perceptive. You and I are the very people I am talking about. She is nothing like Rush or Ms. Coulter, she has come up with policies and pointed out problems in current courses. But the media has done it’s job. The only difference is that I am ashamed of myself for letting the media steer me away from a capable public servant. Based on the lack of pedigree and an unorthodox delivery style and the constant hammering of the press. We deserve everything that is happening to us in the country right now.

Cindy Munford on April 29, 2011 at 3:38 PM

Executive experience:

Obama: ~830 days as President
Palin: ~966 days as Governor (+ some mayoral time)

Not really indicative of much, but I’m just sayin…

Abby Adams on April 29, 2011 at 3:36 PM

Alaska after Palin’s 966 days? vs America after Obama’s 830 days?

portlandon on April 29, 2011 at 3:38 PM

Whimps

sartana on April 29, 2011 at 3:36 PM

So about that advocacy for universal health care, Smoot-Hawley on steriods with China, etc, etc…

Pasalubong on April 29, 2011 at 3:39 PM

gryphon202 on April 29, 2011 at 3:38 PM

Exactly.

kingsjester on April 29, 2011 at 3:40 PM

People who consider Donald Trump a “real man” don’t know what a “real man” is.

MadisonConservative on April 29, 2011 at 3:38 PM

A real man gets divorced and remarries twice.

A real man knows how to push around little old ladies like Vera Coking.

A real man can have major thoroughfares in Manhattan shut down to increase the value of his development property.

A real man…aw sh!t. I can’t keep a straight face.

gryphon202 on April 29, 2011 at 3:40 PM

By the way, one of the reasons I’m glad Trump is running is that it exposes just how fraudulent so much of the RINO-baiting is. People like me get ripped on from time to time for not being conservative enough, yet this guy has at one time or another been a heretic on virtually every single right-wing core belief — really, every one — and yet he’s instantly forgiven just for talking really, really tough. Hilarious.

Allahpundit on April 29, 2011 at 3:15 PM

Actually, I think many of us see him more as a stalking horse that can bloody Obama’s nose a bit before the real candidate steps in and finishes him off in Nov. For this we will suffer him a bit longer.

MechEng5by5 on April 29, 2011 at 3:40 PM

People like me get ripped on from time to time for not being conservative enough, yet this guy has at one time or another been a heretic on virtually every single right-wing core belief — really, every one — and yet he’s instantly forgiven just for talking really, really tough. Hilarious.

Allahpundit on April 29, 2011 at 3:15 PM

Perhaps it is because he is courageous and you are not.

HalJordan on April 29, 2011 at 3:40 PM

Trump is quintessential American like George Patton and Joe DiMaggio.

HalJordan on April 29, 2011 at 3:38 PM

Okay, seriously…is this a gag? Is this a giant prank by Anonymous or something? Or have some of you really just completely lost your f**king minds?

MadisonConservative on April 29, 2011 at 3:40 PM

Smoot-Hawley on steriods with China, etc, etc…

Pasalubong on April 29, 2011 at 3:39 PM

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/04/protectionism_didnt_cause_the.html

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/01/smoothawley_and_the_depression.html

sharrukin on April 29, 2011 at 3:41 PM

Trump has done more damage to the Republicans in 2 months than all the rinos and establishment types in decades.

Kissmygrits on April 29, 2011 at 3:29 PM

Why is it, that every time someone challenges 0bama, they’re “hurting the GOP/Conservatism”?

Trump is a flash in the pan, every conservative knows it, and very few would consider actually voting for him. He’s popular right now, because he fights, and his finger in 0bama’s eye is getting results.

But then again, how is Trump less conservative than, say, Romney – who is the “chosen one” of the establishment? Or Huckabee, Huntsman? The field is full of candyass RINOs, why pick on Trump, except that out of that bunch he’s the only one taking the fight forward?

In a month Trump will be played out, in that time, I for one hopes he causes maximum damage to the feckless lawless regime that is driving this country into ruin.

Rebar on April 29, 2011 at 3:41 PM

Executive experience:

Obama: ~830 days as President
Palin: ~966 days as Governor (+ some mayoral time)

Not really indicative of much, but I’m just sayin…

Abby Adams on April 29, 2011 at 3:36 PM

some Mayoral time??? Try SIX years of it + time on the AK Oil and Gas commission + running multiple small businesses.

NO comparison.

davek70 on April 29, 2011 at 3:41 PM

Alaska after Palin’s 966 days? vs America after Obama’s 830 days?

portlandon on April 29, 2011 at 3:38 PM

12 billion dollar surplus, baby. That and that alone should lay any question of Palin’s record to rest.

gryphon202 on April 29, 2011 at 3:41 PM

gryphon202 on April 29, 2011 at 3:37 PM

That’s right, part of a term as governor of the one of the smallest states in the union (population around 700k). The only state that not only doesn’t have to worry about taxing its residents, but actually pays them to live there from oil revenues. Boo-yah.

MJBrutus on April 29, 2011 at 3:41 PM

People who consider Donald Trump a “real man” don’t know what a “real man” is.

MadisonConservative on April 29, 2011 at 3:38 PM

And you would be an example of a “real man”? As I recall, that’s not what a jury said, especially not the women.

HalJordan on April 29, 2011 at 3:42 PM

jester on April 29, 2011 at 3:40 PM

People who consider Donald Trump a “real man” don’t know what a “real man” is.

MadisonConservative on April 29, 2011 at 3:38 PM

Trump is more of a real man than Obama is.
Palin is more of a man than either of them. Wait, is that allowed? I’m just sayin’

bridgetown on April 29, 2011 at 3:43 PM

12 billion dollar surplus, baby. That and that alone should lay any question of Palin’s record to rest.

gryphon202 on April 29, 2011 at 3:41 PM

Exactumndo.

portlandon on April 29, 2011 at 3:43 PM

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/04/protectionism_didnt_cause_the.html

Really? To bolster Donald Trump, we’re going to defend Smoot-Hawley? It did not trigger the depression, but it certainly helped increase its severity.

Slublog on April 29, 2011 at 3:43 PM

I have no illusions about Trump’s conservative ‘bona fides’ and I don’t think he will get the nomination if he actually runs. That being said, at present and for as long as it lasts Trump is the George S. Patton of the GOP. After Kasserine Pass the Army needed a tough, no nonsense combat commander & leader to rally the troops in order to defeat the Nazis. Patton famously said that when he wanted something to stick he gave it to his men hard and dirty. Trump’s audience here were normal looking, middle class, middle aged Americans cheering him wildly with each profane comment. Not your typical F-bomb droppers. Clearly the ‘troops’ in this case are desperate for a tough, combat commander who will lead them in kicking the asses of the fascists in the White House and in Congress, and too are out of patience with the country club, ‘peacetime garrison generals’ of the GOP. I doubt anyone would argue that Patton was the right man for Eisenhower’s job, at the same time Patton was indispensable in defeating Germany and shortening the war in Europe. He was the general the German’s actually feared. Right now Trump is filling Patton’s role for conservatives, he may go too far, he may drop too many F-bombs, but at least he IS dropping bombs on the enemy and is performing an invaluable service. Clearly the ‘troops’ are hungry for more of this kind of leadership. Since I want to win the war, I’m willing to overlook a few F-bombs and flamboyance and ignore some of his liberal ‘sins’ as long as he’s attacking the enemy. I’ll worry about Donald the POTUS when and if it looks like that could actually happen.

JimP on April 29, 2011 at 3:43 PM

gryphon202 on April 29, 2011 at 3:38 PM

No danger of that happening, so you’ll just have to use your imagination.

MJBrutus on April 29, 2011 at 3:44 PM

MJBrutus on April 29, 2011 at 3:41 PM

What a shock, you’re running away to another goalpost so you can evade dealing with what BS your previous point was.

sharrukin on April 29, 2011 at 3:44 PM

I have no illusions about Trump’s conservative ‘bona fides’ and I don’t think he will get the nomination if he actually runs. That being said, at present and for as long as it lasts Trump is the George S. Patton of the GOP. After Kasserine Pass the Army needed a tough, no nonsense combat commander & leader to rally the troops in order to defeat the Nazis. Patton famously said that when he wanted something to stick he gave it to his men hard and dirty. Trump’s audience here were normal looking, middle class, middle aged Americans cheering him wildly with each profane comment. Not your typical F-bomb droppers. Clearly the ‘troops’ in this case are desperate for a tough, combat commander who will lead them in kicking the a$$es of the fascists in the White House and in Congress, and too are out of patience with the country club, ‘peacetime garrison generals’ of the GOP. I doubt anyone would argue that Patton was the right man for Eisenhower’s job, at the same time Patton was indispensable in defeating Germany and shortening the war in Europe. He was the general the German’s actually feared. Right now Trump is filling Patton’s role for conservatives, he may go too far, he may drop too many F-bombs, but at least he IS dropping bombs on the enemy and is performing an invaluable service. Clearly the ‘troops’ are hungry for more of this kind of leadership. Since I want to win the war, I’m willing to overlook a few F-bombs and flamboyance and ignore some of his liberal ‘sins’ as long as he’s attacking the enemy. I’ll worry about Donald the POTUS when and if it looks like that could actually happen.

JimP on April 29, 2011 at 3:44 PM

gryphon202 on April 29, 2011 at 3:30 PM

I would be truly surprised if AP doesn’t like when Gov. Christie stands up for his beliefs. We all like it. There is also a huge difference in Gov. Christie standing up to a union and Trump bellowing at a country that holds most of our debt. I’m not willing to play chicken with Trump as the leader of my team.

Cindy Munford on April 29, 2011 at 3:44 PM

People who consider Donald Trump a “real man” don’t know what a “real man” is.

MadisonConservative on April 29, 2011 at 3:38 PM

Okay, honcho. You tell us what MadisonConservative’s idea of a “real man” is.

DaydreamBeliever on April 29, 2011 at 3:44 PM

MJBrutus: First, you are creating a false analogy. I do not consider Palin anything near the same as Coulter or Rush. Coulter and Rush are informative; that is, they seek to inform their audience of certain information. In this sense, I see them primarily as a form of journalist.

Her Fox job notwithstanding, Palin is primarily persuasive; that is, she seeks to persuade her audience to her point of view. Therefore, I see her primarily as a rhetorical specialist.

To see a stark contrast, view Palin’s Wisconsin speech, and then contrast with, say, Coulter’s CPAC speech (I think that was the one; the one where she said either Christie runs, or Romney loses). While I give Coulter marks for her willingness to beard the lion, she only seems to do so to mock or chide. Palin reached out to her opponents’ supporters (union families), and sought to show them how their superiors (her opponents) were not serving their interests.

So, yes, I think you are creating a false analogy simply by dint of Palin’s current employment.

And to answer your question directly, I am aware of no political experience in Rush’s background that would make me believe he could do the job. Therefore, I would not vote for him. Coulter worked as a legal aid, IIRC, but I would prefer someone with executive experience (such as a governor) over someone who worked in the legislative branch.

Scott H on April 29, 2011 at 3:45 PM

What is the official title for Trump supporters?

Trumpateers?
Trumpsters?
Trumpists?
Trumpophiles?
Trumponowskis?
Idiots?
Trump-ees?
Trumptards?

portlandon on April 29, 2011 at 3:45 PM

That’s right, part of a term as governor of the one of the smallest states in the union (population around 700k). The only state that not only doesn’t have to worry about taxing its residents, but actually pays them to live there from oil revenues. Boo-yah.

MJBrutus on April 29, 2011 at 3:41 PM

And she still left the state with a 12 billion dollar surplus, even though they pay people to live there. But that’s completely irrelevant to her record, isn’t it? She did more of real consequence for the economic soundness of that little chicken shack of a state in three legislative terms than President Obama has done for the entire nation in two years+. Methinks you are just a touch biased in your thinking. I know I am, but at least I can admit it.

gryphon202 on April 29, 2011 at 3:45 PM

sharrukin on April 29, 2011 at 3:44 PM

Just wait. He’ll start the vulgar ad hominems, next.

kingsjester on April 29, 2011 at 3:46 PM

sharrukin on April 29, 2011 at 3:44 PM

Wha? Goalpost? Running? You are becoming even less lucid with time. I never thought it possible.

MJBrutus on April 29, 2011 at 3:46 PM

Trump has done more damage to the Republicans in 2 months than all the rinos and establishment types in decades.

Kissmygrits on April 29, 2011 at 3:29 PM

I don’t see it damaging the Republicans to much as they never embraced him at all. However, it just wouldn’t shock me to find out one day, that Trump did all of this, to enable the Dems. He’s been a liberal as recently as giving bucks to Rahms campaign, which wasn’t so long ago. Now suddenly he’s a Republican, and a conservative? I don’t think so.

The longer this goes on, the more it stinks. Isn’t it possible he’s the one person who could help Obama by doing this, and not be hurt by it?

capejasmine on April 29, 2011 at 3:46 PM

MJBrutus on April 29, 2011 at 3:41 PM

What a shock, you’re running away to another goalpost so you can evade dealing with what BS your previous point was.

sharrukin on April 29, 2011 at 3:44 PM

Shouldn’t be a shock. Brutus is one of the biggest blowhards here.

Lanceman on April 29, 2011 at 3:47 PM

What I’d really like to know is to what degree liberal mobies are out there skewing these Trump favorability polls, just as I imagine that to some degree they skew Palin unfavorability polls. Granted, we swing with a pretty much True Believer crowd here at HA, but I don’t know anyone in the real world who doesn’t think that Trumpy is a phony *ssclown of the first caliber.

cynccook on April 29, 2011 at 3:47 PM

Really? To bolster Donald Trump, we’re going to defend Smoot-Hawley? It did not trigger the depression, but it certainly helped increase its severity.

Slublog on April 29, 2011 at 3:43 PM

It isn’t to bolster Trump. Its to set the record straight.

Smoot-Hawley had little to do with the depression. Its just more propaganda left over from FDR. Other tariffs just as high have been enacted and they didn’t cause anything like the depression.

FDR’s socialist policies caused the depression to be great rather than just a significant market correction.

sharrukin on April 29, 2011 at 3:48 PM

Trump is more of a real man than Obama is.

bridgetown on April 29, 2011 at 3:43 PM

And Sharps is more of a beer than apple juice is.

That isn’t saying anything.

MadisonConservative on April 29, 2011 at 3:48 PM

gryphon202 on April 29, 2011 at 3:45 PM

I say congratulations to her for that. I also say it wasn’t exactly cleaning the Augean stables. It was simply killing some of the corrupt deals that her predecessors made. You know, the incumbent with the well-earned 20% approval.

MJBrutus on April 29, 2011 at 3:48 PM

Trump as an attack dog? You betcha.

Trump as the GOP nominee? Nope.

I can applaud him for kicking Obama’s @ss and still not want him as president – same with Christie. Many times in the past I’ve voiced my disagreement of people who equate being good at anything with being the best candidate for president. I’d prefer Paul Ryan as policy wonk not President. I’d prefer Bachmann as a Senator not a Rep. I’d prefer Palin as President not talk show host.

I used to assume that people here were a little more discriminating in matching skills with offices. Some are. But too many seem to think that if you like anything about someone, you should be ready to vote them into the oval office. It’s insane.

miConsevative on April 29, 2011 at 3:48 PM

And you would be an example of a “real man”? As I recall, that’s not what a jury said, especially not the women.

HalJordan on April 29, 2011 at 3:42 PM

Your idea of a real man is your bedmate. But hey, why get personal?

MadisonConservative on April 29, 2011 at 3:49 PM

Trumps amusing, but aside from the donations over the years, his eminent domain position, and all the other evidence; one only needs one fundamental fact to prove his hypocrisy

He’s railing about China. Dude, that’s where his signature clothing line is f@*king manufactured!

That’s enough for me…

Oh, and although we may enjoy him saying some of the stuff we’d love to hear, keep in mind that his being branded a whacko will prevent any serious candidate from voicing strong views in the real campaign, lest they be branded to be like “Trump”.

Someone who’s opinion I regard contends that the MBM is keeping him in play to deliberately split the GOP vote and thereby ensuring an Obama victory. Too tin-foil-hat? Maybe…

But who knows for sure.

RocketmanBob on April 29, 2011 at 3:49 PM

The TEA party is not a conservative movement.

It is a financial sanity movement.

freedomplow on April 29, 2011 at 3:49 PM

Oh yeah, this too. The Trump critics just can’t seem to grasp this for some reason.

Knucklehead on April 29, 2011 at 3:24 PM

The birther stuff could have been a big problem for conservatives if the certificate hadn’t been released.

Though I think it’s only by trumps persona it could be forced through.
But there was a risk it would be a distracting sideshow in the primaries.

the_nile on April 29, 2011 at 3:49 PM

Okay, honcho. You tell us what MadisonConservative’s idea of a “real man” is.

DaydreamBeliever on April 29, 2011 at 3:44 PM

May I? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL7n5mEmXJo

cynccook on April 29, 2011 at 3:50 PM

Okay, honcho. You tell us what MadisonConservative’s idea of a “real man” is.

DaydreamBeliever on April 29, 2011 at 3:44 PM

Allen West. Rand Paul. Fred Thompson. Alan Keyes. Duncan Hunter. Ronald Reagan. William Buckley. I could go on and on…but if you think Trump is fit to shine their shoes, it’s not worth it.

MadisonConservative on April 29, 2011 at 3:50 PM

MJBrutus on April 29, 2011 at 3:48 PM

Perhaps I do not have all of the details, but isn’t the fact that everyone knew the former governor was corrupt part of the job she did on the Energy Commission?

And hey, it’s easy to be elected on an anti-corruption platform. It worked for the Democrats in 2006 and 2008, and for the Republicans in 2010. I note that none of those elections really solved anything.

Scott H on April 29, 2011 at 3:51 PM

Trump – you are an embarrassing idiot.

Just thought you should know.

KMC1 on April 29, 2011 at 3:51 PM

I say congratulations to her for that. I also say it wasn’t exactly cleaning the Augean stables. It was simply killing some of the corrupt deals that her predecessors made. You know, the incumbent with the well-earned 20% approval.

MJBrutus on April 29, 2011 at 3:48 PM

And you call that a thinner-than-thin record? You as much as admitted right there that she had at least one credit to her name. Whether you think that’s enough to make her a good president is entirely a matter of opinion that you likely won’t budge from, but cleaning up after corrupt predecessors with pitifully low approval ratings sounds like exactly what we need now, genius-boy.

gryphon202 on April 29, 2011 at 3:51 PM

12 billion dollar surplus, baby. That and that alone should lay any question of Palin’s record to rest.

gryphon202 on April 29, 2011 at 3:41 PM

She managed to achieve that surplus during record high energy prices, and if Alaska has anything it’s energy. Does that make her surplus a flash in the pan? I don’t know, but I’d like to see her in either a politician position or a business one before I’m asked to decide whether to vote for her.

DFCtomm on April 29, 2011 at 3:51 PM

Shouldn’t be a shock. Brutus is one of the biggest blowhards here.

Lanceman on April 29, 2011 at 3:47 PM

Exactly. Not sure why people still feed the troll.

miConsevative on April 29, 2011 at 3:52 PM

May I? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL7n5mEmXJo

cynccook on April 29, 2011 at 3:50 PM

Is your name MadisonConservative?

DaydreamBeliever on April 29, 2011 at 3:53 PM

Who needs principles when you’ve got alphalicious?

Allahpundit on April 29, 2011 at 3:15 PM

Just having fun. I knew that would get a response from you. ;-)

RepubChica on April 29, 2011 at 3:53 PM

Is your name MadisonConservative?

DaydreamBeliever on April 29, 2011 at 3:53 PM

Damn, you’re a pissy little cupcake.

MadisonConservative on April 29, 2011 at 3:54 PM

He’s got the libs skeered.

He’s got the social cons skeered…

Me? Laughing.

freedomplow on April 29, 2011 at 3:54 PM

miConsevative on April 29, 2011 at 3:52 PM

He’s been trying to disguise himself as a fiscal Conservative and blend in.

kingsjester on April 29, 2011 at 3:54 PM

With all due respect to AllahPundit, most of the rest of the country finds New Yorkers obnoxious.

The more “fly-over country” sees of “The Donald,” the less it will like him. If he hasn’t already, he will soon hit his high water mark.

bw222 on April 29, 2011 at 3:55 PM

Your idea of a real man is your bedmate. But hey, why get personal?

MadisonConservative on April 29, 2011 at 3:49 PM

Your “comebacks” range between those of an adolescent and a pre-adolescent. Maybe if you had ever joined the Army or Marines with some extra effort they could have made a bit of a man out of you.

HalJordan on April 29, 2011 at 3:55 PM

Scott H on April 29, 2011 at 3:51 PM

I believe you’re right. She did well to expose the corruption and eradicate some of it as governor. I can’t and wouldn’t try to take that away from her. I would call it equally misguided, though, for others to try to exaggerate her accomplishments so far out of proportion. Her experience in Alaska was far too different and too scant to prepare her for the anything like the duties of a President.

Anyway, as I said, I am certain that she isn’t even going to run, so it’s really just an academic argument.

MJBrutus on April 29, 2011 at 3:56 PM

He’s railing about China. Dude, that’s where his signature clothing line is f@*king manufactured!

RocketmanBob on April 29, 2011 at 3:49 PM

So he’s arguing for a policy that will hurt his business financially and you think that proves he is a hypocrite?

What should he have done? Try to run his business for less profit because he doesn’t agree with the government policies now being enforced?

sharrukin on April 29, 2011 at 3:56 PM

She managed to achieve that surplus during record high energy prices, and if Alaska has anything it’s energy. Does that make her surplus a flash in the pan? I don’t know, but I’d like to see her in either a politician position or a business one before I’m asked to decide whether to vote for her.

DFCtomm on April 29, 2011 at 3:51 PM

She was a governor. Isn’t that a “politician position?” The only “politican position” that Ronald Reagan ever held before becoming president was a governorship (tho granted, of a much more populous state).

And as business goes, how many times does her entrepreneurship have to be brought up? I mean, really, do you Palin detractors take pride in stupidity when we talk about her accomplishments and then you keep going on like we never brought it up?

gryphon202 on April 29, 2011 at 3:56 PM

Is your name MadisonConservative?

DaydreamBeliever on April 29, 2011 at 3:53 PM

Damn, you’re a pissy little cupcake.

MadisonConservative on April 29, 2011 at 3:54 PM

LOL. No, it’s okay, I don’t mind helping the easily confused. No, DaydreamBeliever, I’m cynccook. Sorry to make it hard for you.

cynccook on April 29, 2011 at 3:56 PM

gryphon202 on April 29, 2011 at 3:51 PM

He hates the fact that she’s a broad. And a hot one to boot. Says much about his mindset when you factor in the rest.

Lanceman on April 29, 2011 at 3:56 PM

The “unpresidential” tag is oddly absent. I guess f-bombs are ok. Someone tell the other candidates!

….except Palin! No free passes for her!

Dongemaharu on April 29, 2011 at 3:57 PM

Trump has become the Right’s Michael Moore.

karlant on April 29, 2011 at 3:57 PM

Anyway, as I said, I am certain that she isn’t even going to run, so it’s really just an academic argument.

MJBrutus on April 29, 2011 at 3:56 PM

I’m not even sure she will, but I’m sure-as-sh!t not going to take political advice from an anonymous blog commenter who named himself after someone who helped destroy the old Roman Republic.

gryphon202 on April 29, 2011 at 3:57 PM

I think Trump is playing to the ‘pop-culture’ crowd…

… not to the poor creatures that torment themselves by following this process on a daily basis.

He knows his audience…

Seven Percent Solution on April 29, 2011 at 3:57 PM

He hates the fact that she’s a broad. And a hot one to boot. Says much about his mindset when you factor in the rest.

Lanceman on April 29, 2011 at 3:56 PM

I think brutus is a woman.

sharrukin on April 29, 2011 at 3:58 PM

“I’m wondering if his Tea Party support should actually be indicative of something else – maybe more people are involved in the Tea Party because they want to “stick it to the man” rather than because they are conservative.
miConsevative on April 29, 2011 at 3:22 PM”

What’s your source for Trump being the favorite of the Tea Party? As a TPer myself this is totally bogus in my experience. TPers do like it that Trump is whacking Obama, but the meme that Trump is the TP darling is BS as far as I know. So, if you actually have a source for this please let everyone know. I’d like to verify your information. Otherwise everyone should consider it a disinformation campaign.

JimP on April 29, 2011 at 3:59 PM

Damn, you’re a pissy little cupcake.

MadisonConservative on April 29, 2011 at 3:54 PM

Good God! What are you, about 6 years old?

Kleines Huhn on April 29, 2011 at 3:59 PM

MJBrutus: Well, we agree that she has positive points on her record.

Can someone please tell me the positive points on Romney’s record as Governor? I recall seeing a few good things from Pawlenty’s term, and everyone knows about Christie.

I guess my point is that people seem to be judging primarily by length of service, and then by quality of work. I judge by quality first, and by that, Palin has most if not all of the GOP field beat in terms of political executive experience. (Business acumen is useful, but less directly applicable than the political executive.)

Scott H on April 29, 2011 at 3:59 PM

I think brutus is a woman.

sharrukin on April 29, 2011 at 3:58 PM

With a mouth like that?

Lanceman on April 29, 2011 at 4:00 PM

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